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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    Dawn04 was a rip off of the original Dawn.
    I wouldn't go so far as to call it a rip-off--it is, after all, a remake. From the outset, it's expected that the remake have concepts and elements of the original product in it. It's not asserting itself as an "original".

    From what I saw, there are some references to the original in the finished product....and while the overall concept is the same (a group of survivors seeking refuge from the zombie apocalypse in a shopping mall), the rest is original.
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    I realise that. I was just stating, that If Dawn04 ripped off any movie it was the original. Let's remember also, the fast zombie thing is not as new as all that. ROTLD anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    I realise that. I was just stating, that If Dawn04 ripped off any movie it was the original. Let's remember also, the fast zombie thing is not as new as all that. ROTLD anyone?
    My room mate actually considers the original ROTLD to be the best zombie flick of all time.
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    did you hit your flat mate with a 4 kilo sledge hammer???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcades057 View Post
    My room mate actually considers the original ROTLD to be the best zombie flick of all time.
    Get a new room mate.
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    Hey, ROTLD is a great movie. It was the Dawn '04 of its time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    Hey, ROTLD is a great movie. It was the Dawn '04 of its time.
    It's a cool movie, I enjoyed it, but the best zombie movie of all time? Nah, no way!

    Edit: just wanted to add that no way are Dawn 04 and 28 Days Later similair movies, totally different storylines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion2213 View Post
    It's a cool movie, I enjoyed it, but the best zombie movie of all time? Nah, no way!

    Edit: just wanted to add that no way are Dawn 04 and 28 Days Later similair movies, totally different storylines.

    return was a fun movie and so was the second one

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    Hey, ROTLD is a great movie. It was the Dawn '04 of its time.
    There's more truth to that than you realize.

    It also went head to head with a GAR Dead installment the year it came out and blew it out of the water.
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    it took screaming, quick infection rates, and photography style all from 28 days - due i asid all that before...if it was just one thing I'd say you're right but those things coupled together make it almost undeniable. All I could think int he cinema was how much it felt like 28 days later.

    the storyline was also very similar - its almost a portrayal of all the things that happened in between Jim going into a coma in 28 days and waking up - exodus of people, mass panic...and as I said, extremely quick infection rates, cat like behaviour, and cinematography that completely mimicked the style of 28 Days Later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcades057 View Post
    There's more truth to that than you realize.

    It also went head to head with a GAR Dead installment the year it came out and blew it out of the water.
    Exactly my point!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SymphonicX View Post
    the storyline was also very similar - its almost a portrayal of all the things that happened in between Jim going into a coma in 28 days and waking up - exodus of people, mass panic...
    Nope. That would be any zombie movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post


    Nope. That would be any zombie movie.
    You're right, definitely...but what I mean is that it felt like that and coupled with the cinematography and general style of film it felt like a sequel...if that makes sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    Hey, ROTLD is a great movie. It was the Dawn '04 of its time.
    That's an insult to RotLD, which is a great movie although it didn't blow DAY out of the water theatrically. A general release R rated comedy/parody vs. an unrated horror/shocker with very limited distribution? Give me a break. Did you see either film during the summer of 1985, or even recall what the advertising was like?

    RotLD also didn't invent "fast" zombies--Re-Animator did.
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    I always found the 'leaving the mall' plot point as refreshing; it lead to some great scenes and furthered the plot. It also left it open for a sequel.

    Dawn 04 is not a thinking film but neither is the original. They're zombie films. Why analyze them to death (pun).

    I think much of the backlash on the film is derivative of it being a 'remake' to a classic Cult film. If Dawn 78 didn't exist, I doubt most would dump on it.

    It was a fun film, action, good scare scenes and funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    Dawn 04 is not a thinking film but neither is the original.
    Did you and I see the same film?

    But on the other hand, I guess it doesn't have to be a thinking film should one choose that direction.

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