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acealive1
28-Jul-2008, 02:41 AM
the dark knight $75 million
stepbrothers $30 million
mamma mia $17 million
x files $ 10 million

and people wonder why theres no sequels in hollywood and why the industry suffers.


one movie makes 300 million in a week,another is based on a song from a SWEDISH POP GROUP............ and then u got movies like the xfiles who shoulda made their budget back the first week only making 10 million OPENING WEEKEND just like land of the dead.

things are horrible cuz people want the flavor of the month and not something thats a proven box office winner.

thanks to the batman nut hangers the x files franchise is done, i hope you're happy cuz that franchise is only good for another 2 films or less like it was when it originally started with michael keaton. then it'll go away for another decade.




the public sucks.

AcesandEights
28-Jul-2008, 03:20 AM
Massive public outcries about the masses, by the masses.

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acealive1
28-Jul-2008, 03:22 AM
Massive public outcries about the masses, by the masses.

Brought to you by the internet :)


you cant tell me im not right. if its not the latest rehash bandwagon of a comic book movie its one of will farrell's flavors of the month where hes too old to be playing a particular role. he plays the same role in every movie.

also its the reason kevin smith stopped bein gung ho about making tons of new movies

Bub666
28-Jul-2008, 03:55 AM
I'am going to see X files next week.

zombie04
28-Jul-2008, 06:09 AM
I don't think you're really being fair to the movies involved. The Dark Knight was a good movie that I believe has earned every dollar it has earned in the past week. It's more than the typical comic book movie (Ghost Rider, Spiderman 3, Hulk) because it was not only made by a great director and cast, but a director and cast who really cared about their work. As for Mamma Mia, I can't speak anything about it because I haven't seen it. I can't say I will because it's just not the type of movie I'm into, but I can see how it has made some money. It is really a counter-program movie because it just sticks out from the usual summer blockbuster formula that comes out every Friday. Step-Brothers was an alright movie but I admit, the Will Farrell act has started getting stale as of late. And as for X-Files, I think the last 2 seasons of the show plus the five year gap between the finale and the movie has seriouly eroded any chance this movie ever had. I plan to see it, but the end of the show was truly a case of 'jumping the shark' and from what I've heard the movie really fails to deliver, even for some of the hardcore fans I know.

capncnut
28-Jul-2008, 06:13 AM
And as for X-Files, I think the last 2 seasons of the show plus the five year gap between the finale and the movie has seriouly eroded any chance this movie ever had. I plan to see it, but the end of the show was truly a case of 'jumping the shark' and from what I've heard the movie really fails to deliver, even for some of the hardcore fans I know.
Totally agree, Z4. X-Files has received terrible reviews here in the UK. Not only plotwise but also in the scripting and performance.


thanks to the batman nut hangers the x files franchise is done, i hope you're happy cuz that franchise is only good for another 2 films or less like it was when it originally started with michael keaton. then it'll go away for another decade.

you cant tell me im not right. if its not the latest rehash bandwagon of a comic book movie... blah, blah
That's a pathetic argument. I think it's blatantly obvious from all the reviews and praise that The Dark Knight has received in recent weeks that it is an outstanding movie in it's own right, away from previous installments. I'm no major fan of Batman in the slightest but TDK is a top priority of mine to see right now. We are also talking a possible Oscar winner here in Heath Ledger's peformance of The Joker...

...I smell an X-Files fanboy. :rolleyes:

Minerva_Zombi
28-Jul-2008, 06:32 AM
the dark knight $75 million
stepbrothers $30 million
mamma mia $17 million
x files $ 10 million

and people wonder why theres no sequels in hollywood and why the industry suffers.


one movie makes 300 million in a week,another is based on a song from a SWEDISH POP GROUP............ and then u got movies like the xfiles who shoulda made their budget back the first week only making 10 million OPENING WEEKEND just like land of the dead.

things are horrible cuz people want the flavor of the month and not something thats a proven box office winner.

thanks to the batman nut hangers the x files franchise is done, i hope you're happy cuz that franchise is only good for another 2 films or less like it was when it originally started with michael keaton. then it'll go away for another decade.




the public sucks.


wah! my x-files movie sucks and no one wants to go see it! wah!

the dark knight is about 200 times better than the x-files movie. and yes, ive watched them both. the x-files franchise was dead 10 years ago. nobody cares anymore.

acealive1
28-Jul-2008, 06:36 AM
wah! my x-files movie sucks and no one wants to go see it! wah!

the dark knight is about 200 times better than the x-files movie. and yes, ive watched them both. the x-files franchise was dead 10 years ago. nobody cares anymore.

when the pandemonium surrounding this movie ends,all the batman fanboys will go back into hibernation and wait for the next one including you.

clanglee
28-Jul-2008, 10:05 AM
also its the reason kevin smith stopped bein gung ho about making tons of new movies

Yeah, But I'll bet dollars to donuts that Kevin Smith was first in line to see the Dark Knight. :D

axlish
28-Jul-2008, 12:23 PM
Yoda says: Foolish it is to open a film against Batman.

Bottom line: X-Files and Hellboy should have opted for a better opening date. Occassionally there are films that are so popular that they crush everything else. Batman would be one of those.

ProfessorChaos
28-Jul-2008, 08:29 PM
my brother and his wife came to visit me this weekend, and we debated upon whether to see step-borthers or TDK. having already seen TDK once, i stated that i didn't really care which we saw, but was leaning towards TDK. they both decided TDK sounded like it was amazing from all they'd heard, so we opted for batman.

neither of them are fans of comic book movies, and hadn't even seen batman begins yet, but after we watched that on dvd at my place, they were pretty excited about checking out the new one. they really enjoyed it, and i got to see it for a second time, and it didn't lose any of its thunder. great film, great cast, awesome story, etc.

will ferrell is pathetic. he's had a few funny moments in a few films, but i've been sick of his same fu(king character-routine since he did a cameo in wedding crashers. it's amaing that people still pay to watch him play the same stupid characters in different moronic settings. sooo glad my brother and his wife didn't want to see step-morons worse than TDK.

as for the xfiles, no thanks. never got into that scene.

bassman
28-Jul-2008, 08:43 PM
Yoda says: Foolish it is to open a film against Batman.


I wonder what it will be like when Batman 3 is released in a few years. It will probably be the only film opening that weekend.:p

TDK deserves every bit of credit it's receiving. Top notch film. While I used to love The X Files and was looking forward to "I Want To Believe", I knew it wouldn't do too well. That series was over long ago.

Ace - Have you seen TDK? As an X Files fan AND a Batman fan, I kind of liked "I Want To Believe", but TDK is the superior film in MANY MANY different ways. And if Warner Brothers has their head on straight like I think they do, they will get Chris Nolan back for another Batman film. If he's back, it's going to be good. If he doesn't come back, hopefully they'll go to someone that knows how to handle the franchise. They won't go back to campy films like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. You can take that to the bank.

As for new X Files - It was great to see Mulder and Skully together again(the true strength of the film), but it probably would have been best to just leave it alone....

acealive1
30-Jul-2008, 06:27 PM
I wonder what it will be like when Batman 3 is released in a few years. It will probably be the only film opening that weekend.:p

TDK deserves every bit of credit it's receiving. Top notch film. While I used to love The X Files and was looking forward to "I Want To Believe", I knew it wouldn't do too well. That series was over long ago.

Ace - Have you seen TDK? As an X Files fan AND a Batman fan, I kind of liked "I Want To Believe", but TDK is the superior film in MANY MANY different ways. And if Warner Brothers has their head on straight like I think they do, they will get Chris Nolan back for another Batman film. If he's back, it's going to be good. If he doesn't come back, hopefully they'll go to someone that knows how to handle the franchise. They won't go back to campy films like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. You can take that to the bank.

As for new X Files - It was great to see Mulder and Skully together again(the true strength of the film), but it probably would have been best to just leave it alone....

i never said TDK was a bad movie, im saying if people keep spending loads of money like this on just the stateside box office on ONE movie, its not good for the industry.


and why leave the x files movie alone? the last one made 89 million stateside alone. and also, cmon man....u cant blame chris carter for waiting 10 years since fox couldnt get their stuff together with lawsuits and all pending.

mista_mo
30-Jul-2008, 07:24 PM
the last x-files made 189 million total.

the dark knight has made 450 million (roughly) so far. The previous batman film made 300 million or so, iron man made 560 million or so, and spider man 1-3 made 821 million, 782 million, and 890 million respectfully. (all cost figures are rough.

the dark knight has an average rating of 94%
Batman begins has an average rating of 84%
Iron man has an average rating of 93%
Spider mans 1-3 have an average rating of 90%, 93%, and 61% respectably
I want to believe has am average rating of 34%
and the x-files movie has a rating of 64%

There is a reason why comic book based movies are making a come back- they make ass loads of cash, and the vast majority of recent ones have been utterly fantastic (even spider man 3 watchable). All of the movies listed above have great actors, writing, pacing, and are just incredibly well put together.

the recent x-file movie has none of those things. I used to be a huge x-files fan, but c'mon, there's a difference between liking a movie because you liked the show, and liking a movie because it's good. And evidently, the vast majority of people, and critics, do not think I want to believe is a good movie, but again, it just opened so we'll see.

I would also say that the x-files franchise was done when the show ended, but i guess that's just me.

capncnut
30-Jul-2008, 07:49 PM
I would also say that the x-files franchise was done when the show ended, but i guess that's just me.
The X-Files franchise was done by the end of season two IMO.

acealive1
31-Jul-2008, 12:36 AM
the last x-files made 189 million total.

the dark knight has made 450 million (roughly) so far. The previous batman film made 300 million or so, iron man made 560 million or so, and spider man 1-3 made 821 million, 782 million, and 890 million respectfully. (all cost figures are rough.

the dark knight has an average rating of 94%
Batman begins has an average rating of 84%
Iron man has an average rating of 93%
Spider mans 1-3 have an average rating of 90%, 93%, and 61% respectably
I want to believe has am average rating of 34%
and the x-files movie has a rating of 64%

There is a reason why comic book based movies are making a come back- they make ass loads of cash, and the vast majority of recent ones have been utterly fantastic (even spider man 3 watchable). All of the movies listed above have great actors, writing, pacing, and are just incredibly well put together.

the recent x-file movie has none of those things. I used to be a huge x-files fan, but c'mon, there's a difference between liking a movie because you liked the show, and liking a movie because it's good. And evidently, the vast majority of people, and critics, do not think I want to believe is a good movie, but again, it just opened so we'll see.

I would also say that the x-files franchise was done when the show ended, but i guess that's just me.



um.......all comic book movies arent making movies. see both hulk movies and the two blade sequels, and elektra and daredevil AND the punisher.:lol::lol:

and how long did the batman franchise go away after their last debacle at the box office? bout a decade and u didnt hear nothing else from them. but the x files steadily had comics, new things happening etc etc. video games......

bassman
31-Jul-2008, 12:44 AM
and how long did the batman franchise go away after their last debacle at the box office? bout a decade and u didnt hear nothing else from them. but the x files steadily had comics, new things happening etc etc. video games......

The last Batman series skewed off into bad territory. Even the director(shumacher) of the last two films in that series admits to it. Everything about the new(Nolan) series is fantastic, imo.

But I really don't see how this relates to the X Men films. I mean...did you see X3? I'm not an X Men fan by any means, but from what I've seen and read, that film is the Batman Forever of the X Men series. The beginning of the end....

clanglee
31-Jul-2008, 12:53 AM
. but the x files steadily had comics, new things happening etc etc. video games......

Wait. . so Batman didn't have Comics and games and cartoons and action figures, etc etc. That began before and complete blew xfile's stuff out of the water?

Batman is an American icon. . . X-files was a popular TV show with a decent movie follow up. The scales are kinda tipped man.

acealive1
31-Jul-2008, 01:45 AM
The last Batman series skewed off into bad territory. Even the director(shumacher) of the last two films in that series admits to it. Everything about the new(Nolan) series is fantastic, imo.

But I really don't see how this relates to the X Men films. I mean...did you see X3? I'm not an X Men fan by any means, but from what I've seen and read, that film is the Batman Forever of the X Men series. The beginning of the end....
yea i saw the x men movies. loved em all,saw em all in theaters.

shame on ya for sayin that about batman forever. out of the original batman movies before the ones with bale, its the 2nd highest grossing right behind the original. i could see people saying it was a bad movie if it tanked,but it didnt so its not. plus kilmer is a chameleon. watch tombstone and the doors. he baically becomes that person for the duration of filming.


also, he made some doors tracks with him singing....the band couldnt tell the difference between him and morrison


Wait. . so Batman didn't have Comics and games and cartoons and action figures, etc etc. That began before and complete blew xfile's stuff out of the water?

Batman is an American icon. . . X-files was a popular TV show with a decent movie follow up. The scales are kinda tipped man.


batman largely went away after the first run of 4 or 6 movies. no one would touch the franchise with a ten foot pole. x files was always on the to do list. had fox not screwed carter,we'd be at x files 4 or 5 by now

mista_mo
31-Jul-2008, 02:20 AM
lol wut?

There has always been a huge market for batman comics- he is after all, one of DCs most popular characters. They wouldn't stop production of his comic series just because half of the original batman movie series sucks.


But yea, clang is pretty much correct.

clanglee
31-Jul-2008, 02:25 AM
What I mean. . is that Batman is Chiefly a Comic book. It has been around for ages. Comparing the two JUST on their movies is bad enough. . but you mentioned that the X-files had a comic going like Batman ddin't already have that area of the argument sown up. I realize you are a fan. . great. . wonderful. . nothing at all wrong with that. But fact is. . X-files made the mistake of coming out to compete with Batman. . a bad bad move.

acealive1
31-Jul-2008, 02:25 AM
lol wut?

There has always been a huge market for batman comics- he is after all, one of DCs most popular characters. They wouldn't stop production of his comic series just because half of the original batman movie series sucks.


But yea, clang is pretty much correct.

i clearly remember saying the movies........


What I mean. . is that Batman is Chiefly a Comic book. It has been around for ages. Comparing the two JUST on their movies is bad enough. . but you mentioned that the X-files had a comic going like Batman ddin't already have that area of the argument sown up. I realize you are a fan. . great. . wonderful. . nothing at all wrong with that. But fact is. . X-files made the mistake of coming out to compete with Batman. . a bad bad move.

yes or no, would it have went gangbusters had they not tied in heath ledger's death with it??

its been that way with people who keel over in their prime no matter how bad the movie is

mista_mo
31-Jul-2008, 02:32 AM
maybe you should clarify then, because you REALLY make it sound like your talking about the batman franchise as a whole. And comparing the x-files (even the movies) to the batman ones is downright silly.

besides, who'd really want anouther x-files movie? What market is there for this thing right now? Sure, the last one did pretty good, but the series was stale and stagnant when it ended.

clanglee
31-Jul-2008, 02:33 AM
yes or no, would it have went gangbusters had they not tied in heath ledger's death with it??

its been that way with people who keel over in their prime no matter how bad the movie is

Maybe not AS MUCH of a success without Ledger's death, but it STILL would have blown X-Files out of the water because. . . . It's Batman. The last Batman movie was amazing, there was buzz about Heath's Joker before he died, and the movie is solid and completely badassed. Yeah. . I know you are bitter and mad about the X-files franchise man. . but don't blame Batman. . blame the producers or distributors of the X-Files movie.

Oh, and not to mention that the Batman franchise stays fresh on peoples minds with its constant portrayal in a number of different medias.

acealive1
31-Jul-2008, 02:35 AM
Maybe not AS MUCH of a success without Ledger's death, but it STILL would have blown X-Files out of the water because. . . . It's Batman. The last Batman movie was amazing, there was buzz about Heath's Joker before he died, and the movie is solid and completely badassed. Yeah. . I know you are bitter and mad about the X-files franchise man. . but don't blame Batman. . blame the producers or distributors of the X-Files movie.


u said im bitter..not really. lets face it, could batman run a series for 9 years with a movie in between? NO. is it good for the 9 or ten year frame for like 6 movies? u betcha. but after awhile people get tired of it. see the last time a franchise was started with the batman and the revolving door of actors playing batman started


maybe you should clarify then, because you REALLY make it sound like your talking about the batman franchise as a whole. And comparing the x-files (even the movies) to the batman ones is downright silly.

besides, who'd really want anouther x-files movie? What market is there for this thing right now? Sure, the last one did pretty good, but the series was stale and stagnant when it ended.

the franchise.meaning the movies............. the series was stale? :lol::lol:

um........NO more like carter said "we're done making good episodes and we're gonna make trash til u adhere to our demands to cancel it"

bassman
31-Jul-2008, 02:47 AM
yea i saw the x men movies. loved em all,saw em all in theaters.

shame on ya for sayin that about batman forever. out of the original batman movies before the ones with bale, its the 2nd highest grossing right behind the original. i could see people saying it was a bad movie if it tanked,but it didnt so its not. plus kilmer is a chameleon. watch tombstone and the doors. he baically becomes that person for the duration of filming.


also, he made some doors tracks with him singing....the band couldnt tell the difference between him and morrison




batman largely went away after the first run of 4 or 6 movies. no one would touch the franchise with a ten foot pole. x files was always on the to do list. had fox not screwed carter,we'd be at x files 4 or 5 by now


This Nolan series has nothing to do with the series before. Everyone knows that the prior series ended with the last two movies. Kilmer made an awesome batman/bruce wayne. The problem didn't lie within Kilmer. It was the direction of Shumacher.

What other comic book/super hero/legend has withstood many different incarnations? Oh yeah....none really. None have survived to the extent that Batman has. Batman is underneath everyone's breath. It just took someone serious and with a mission to put the cinematic Batman on the right track. Those men are David Goyer and Christopher Nolan....

Imo, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are eons ahead of Singer's films. And I like Superman Returns..

clanglee
31-Jul-2008, 03:28 AM
u said im bitter..not really. lets face it, could batman run a series for 9 years with a movie in between? NO. is it good for the 9 or ten year frame for like 6 movies? u betcha. but after awhile people get tired of it. see the last time a franchise was started with the batman and the revolving door of actors playing batman started
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As I said, it's mainly a comic book. .but yeah that has been running for decades. The cartoons, many cartoons, have been running for many many years. . .Batman also had a Tv show back in the day as well. Really there is no comparisson man. Batman is indeed have a very lasting and adaptable franchise.