Home survival

[MapMan]

The infestation just began:

What are some basic provisions you would stock to hold out for a month or two ? Utilities may stop working.

All the soup, ramen noodles and bottled water I can grab. I can always cook over the fireplace If I need to. No booze for me, I would get trashed and invite them in to eat my shrimp flavored noodles.

[Deadman_Deluxe]

Class A Drugs ... and porn.

[Bunker65]

Bottled water is your main "must have". After that you can think about powered milk & eggs. Canned goods are always something that you should have. Stuff that can be eaten without being heated if necessary like pork & beans & the like. Also, if you can stand the feast that they had in the original Dawn, SPAM is always an option :).

[MikePizzoff]

I was actually watching the National Geographic Channel recently and it was stated that in a catastrophic incident one could actually survive off beer. This makes sense considering it's 94% water. Of course I'd stock up on plenty of High Life and PBR.

Gatorade and Wawa Iced Tea rations for extreme hangovers.

Shloads of Ramen noodles.

Lots of crackers and pretzels... takes forever for those things to go bad.

I already have a hand-crank/solar-powered radio... so I'd be pretty set once I got that food.

Oh yeah, and LOTS of cigarettes.

[Adrenochrome]

Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole multi colored collection of uppers, downers, laughers, screamers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls.:dead:

[MaximusIncredulous]

Oh yeah, and LOTS of cigarettes.

Oh mama, don't forget the cigs! I've stopped smoking for a little over two months now and I'm going batguana... and that's without the living dead wanting to chomp down on my ass.

[Deadman_Deluxe]

C-rats... tons of them...

If you come from a military family, you probably have a ton of them too..


C-rats are MRE's or what/not?

[Spider Rico]

No one here mentioned books (besides porn), boardgames, crayons... you're going to get really bored holed up in you apartment or shelter. You need to keep sane.

[p2501]

The infestation just began:

What are some basic provisions you would stock to hold out for a month or two ? Utilities may stop working.


mine:

food
water
water purification tablets.
toilet paper.
condoms.
maxi-pads.
pr0n
batteries


C-rats are MRE's or what/not?


C-rats is short for Canned Rations. think WW2/ Korean war movies.

MRE are the new version, or brown plastic bags, hence "brown baggin it".

[MapMan]

I lived on MRE's for two solid years. Better add some serious toilet paper and not the stuff they give you in the MRE. No reason to have a sore *sshole.

Batteries
CD player
Extensive music collection
100 ft parachute cord Good stuff
Duct Tape!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1,000,000 uses

[erisi236]

Cigs, Booze and Guns :cool:

and maybe food and water :D

[Tullaryx]

I have cases upon cases of Military-issue MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) and water purification tablets. I buy from Costco alot and always buy in bulk to save having to go back and forth every week. I have a generator that can power up the fridge and essential electrical items. Gas would be a problem down the line, but if I can get to the nearest gas station and just fill up empty 5 gallon tanks then I'm set for the duration.

[mista_mo]

apart from essential survival junk, I would bring books, and games, and of course, my bible...come on, faith can help people through some of the hardest times of their lives. I know it's helping me.

[Deadman_Deluxe]

... and of course, my bible


I think we have already covered "additional toilet paper" :lol:

[ipotts85]

Gatorade and Wawa Iced Tea rations for extreme hangovers.


oh **** - i loves me some wawa iced tea, and the green tea, too.

definately would have to turn on 4x4 and high tail it to the closest wawa, then the liquor store so i could get **** drunk everyday all day on cheap vodka.

definately pack a 12 gauge for buckng off some rounds at those motherf***ers...gotta make sure there is lots and lots of canned food...i'd have to swing by the local grocery store...head home and board up the house, and definately make sure there is gas in the truck, and also that there are no dumb rednecks around to accidentally blow up my car when they shoot the gas pump.

then i'd take a lawn chair and sit on the roof of my house totally sh*tfaced, shooting zombies.

then when all else fails and it's time to abandon ship, i'd head down the street to the mall.

hells yeah.

[EvilNed]

My bomb shelter is filled with language books. I mean, FILLED! By the time I emerged again, and the zombies had rotted away, I'd be fluent in persian, arabic, greek, latin and awhole bunch of african languages as well.

Also, I live in the suburbs, or a small community two miles away from a large city. Approx. 16,000 people live here, over a very large space. I wouldn't really have any trouble ridding my block (or hill, it's sort of like up on a hill) from stenches. There'd be maybe 100 or so, and since I don't have any guys, I wouldn't attract any new ones by sound. So I'm pretty sure that once I got all the zombies cleared away, (say, takes a month perhaps?) I could just move back and forth between my house and my bomb shelter. The doors are practicly next to each other.

Food? No problem. There's a grocey store not far away, but I'd imagine going there would attract alot of problems. Thats why I have to clear out my neighbourhood: There's lots of houses here, and I imagine there's lots of food as well. If I'm not mistaken, a great deal of these houses have fallout shelters as well and some might be stocked up pretty good (as I said, they are ideal for storage).

So I could easily wait it out if I ransom my food correctly.

[Adrenochrome]

I think we have already covered "additional toilet paper" :lol:
damn, you beat me to it!

[TexasZombie]

Ton of instant coffee.
If you have coffee and toilet paper, you have Civilization.

TZ

[Deadman_Deluxe]

Ton of instant coffee.
If you have coffee and toilet paper, you have Civilization.

TZ


I beg to differ on this one ... coffee and toilet paper for sure ... but i always considered ice/ice cubes to be civilization.

I am usually heard proclaiming that very word "civilization!!!" each time i manage to produce a bucket of ice/ice cubes from nowhere.

Before ... we had no ice ... but now ... we DO have ice!

Whisky anyone?

[benjamin03]

I lived on MRE's for two solid years. Better add some serious toilet paper and not the stuff they give you in the MRE. No reason to have a sore *sshole.

Batteries
CD player
Extensive music collection
100 ft parachute cord Good stuff
Duct Tape!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1,000,000 uses


Howcome u lived on them for 2 years ??

[mista_mo]

I think we have already covered "additional toilet paper"


damn, you beat me to it!

Gee thanks guys, not like I don't enough bull**** like that from my dad who it seems everytime I bring up me going to church or i'm reading my bible he always says
"I thought you were done with that bull****"
Or everytime I try to tell him to stop saying "jesus christ" in exclamation as a cuss word (which seems to be every second word of his) he tells me to **** off and stop telling him what to do. All I asked him was to stop saying it in front of me cause it irks me. You know, it's hard enough, the way some of my old friends treat me since I became a christian, but I'd expect at least SOME respect from my own father about the subject, which is incredibly important to me.
Sorry if I kinda got off on a rant there guys, and sorry if you think i'm ****ed off at you or anything...I'm really not. It's just..I get enough of that at home from my dad, and I just wanna get away from it. Not telling you guys to stop, it is your opinion..I'll just try to ignore statements like that in the future..

[Adrenochrome]

Gee thanks guys, not like I don't enough bull**** like that from my dad who it seems everytime I bring up me going to church or i'm reading my bible he always says
"I thought you were done with that bull****"
Or everytime I try to tell him to stop saying "jesus christ" in exclamation as a cuss word (which seems to be every second word of his) he tells me to **** off and stop telling him what to do. All I asked him was to stop saying it in front of me cause it irks me. You know, it's hard enough, the way some of my old friends treat me since I became a christian, but I'd expect at least SOME respect from my own father about the subject, which is incredibly important to me.
Sorry if I kinda got off on a rant there guys, and sorry if you think i'm ****ed off at you or anything...I'm really not. It's just..I get enough of that at home from my dad, and I just wanna get away from it. Not telling you guys to stop, it is your opinion..I'll just try to ignore statements like that in the future..

sorry if I offended, but,...fairytale religion is on it's way out. Reality is in.

[mista_mo]

I'm starting to get thick skinned to it...remeber, daddy doesn't like my choice, so I put up with crap from him almost on a daily basis.

[EvilNed]

Gee thanks guys, not like I don't enough bull**** like that from my dad who it seems everytime I bring up me going to church or i'm reading my bible he always says

I don't disrespect all christians, but there's a big bunch of them that I just wish would go away. Same with any organized religion, they all have their wackos with outdated ideas. Not saying I disrespect you.

But the Bible, I can't take seriously. The book actually suggests you should KILL anyone you find working on the sabbat. There's no way to defend a book like that. I find the book to be so ridiculously filled with outdated ideas, that I believe that a totally new bible should be written. After all, the ones that wrote the old one believed the world to be flat.

As for your dad saying "Jesus Christ" as a curse, I don't think anyone should make demands from someone else just because they follow their religion. But then again, I don't think anyone should tell their sons to **** off either.

[mista_mo]

Me and my dad have never been close to be honest..I mean hell, I only met him when i was 10 or so, so I'd allready grown up so much before I met him. And I have an innate distrust for men who are in a fatherly position..the man I thought was my dad used to beat the **** outta my mom and swear and scream at her all the time....alot of really, really, really bad memeroies from that time..

[Adrenochrome]

I don't disrespect all christians, but there's a big bunch of them that I just wish would go away.
I wouldn't have a problem with Christians if they didn't run around screaming that they are THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE RIGHT!!!
These days you have two religions in a screaming match; Christians and Muslims. The majority of the other "beliefs" are worshiping quietly to themselves watching the other two kill themselves off.


om mani padme hum

[mista_mo]

just look at Pat Robertson...I'm a christian and I think he's a douchebag!

[Adrenochrome]

just look at Pat Robertson...I'm a christian and I think he's a douchebag!
Ole Patty isn't a "Christian", he's a plolitician.

[mista_mo]

he claims to be one..you've heard some of the stuff he's said eh?

[Adrenochrome]

he claims to be one..you've heard some of the stuff he's said eh?
I have listened to that freak since the days of Jim and Tammy Baker. Pat Robertson is as bad as Hitler. ALL of the TV evangelists (American) are after ONE thing only. Money.

[mista_mo]

We can agree on that. I mean, I hate it when people go see "faith healers" and disregard medical treatment for their disease or ailment because they are "cured" by these people (who require "donations") and they end up dieing. I'm sorry, but if I were in that position I would go see my docter, and place my trust in him, not some hack who smacks you on the forehead and "cures" your cancer.
And alot of people go for it too, but I suppose when people can tap into their faith and beliefs, it really strikes a cord in those who go for that treatment. It hurts alot knowing how many people have died because of that..to me it could be considered malpractice...I mean, they are supposed to be "curing" them, and they tell these people to not go for medical treatment, and to stop doing whatever they are doing as they have been cured.

[MapMan]

I intended for the thread to be about home survival gear and not a debate about religion.

[Adrenochrome]

We can agree on that. I mean, I hate it when people go see "faith healers" and disregard medical treatment for their disease or ailment because they are "cured" by these people (who require "donations") and they end up dieing. I'm sorry, but if I were in that position I would go see my docter, and place my trust in him, not some hack who smacks you on the forehead and "cures" your cancer.
And alot of people go for it too, but I suppose when people can tap into their faith and beliefs, it really strikes a cord in those who go for that treatment. It hurts alot knowing how many people have died because of that..to me it could be considered malpractice...I mean, they are supposed to be "curing" them, and they tell these people to not go for medical treatment, and to stop doing whatever they are doing as they have been cured.
Get this....waaaaaaaaay back in `87, I went to one of those "healing" extravaganzas. There was a monent during the "sermon" when a woman "felt the spirit". She was loud, excited and happy. Well, the Head Honcho on the stage demanded that security remove her from the building because she was disrupting his sermon. WHAT THE F*CK!!??? This MAY have been the ONLY person with a PURE spiritual feeling!!! And she was kicked out.
Christians, man, *picks nose*...they MORE than creep me out.

[Wooley]

If I could swing it, I'd max out credit cards to lay in a supply of rice, beans, wheat, corn, potatoes, salt, oil, and other staples, along with water storage drums, building supplies, camping supplies, and ammo.

I've read that a person can live indefinately on a ration of corn, wheat, and soybeans, but I've got a cook book that tells you how to prepare the same staples and more and the resulting food actually sounds tasty.

With building supplies, I'd build fortifications-punji stick pits, barbed wire tanglefoot, etc, along with rain water catchers, a solar oven, and more.
Maybe add some boobytraps to the mix. A horde of stinkskins wouldnt' do well against a 55 gallon drum filled with thickened gasoline wrapped with barbed wire. Save my ammo for mopping up what isn't shredded and flash dried.

I'd want to settle in an area far from suburbia, on a farmstead, as suburban homes don't lend themselves towards post apocalyptic survival conditions.

[Danny]

Bottled water is your main "must have". After that you can think about powered milk & eggs. Canned goods are always something that you should have. Stuff that can be eaten without being heated if necessary like pork & beans & the like. Also, if you can stand the feast that they had in the original Dawn, SPAM is always an option :).

ah, a zombocalypse possibly the only thing that could force me to eat corned beef:barf:

[Deadman_Deluxe]

suburban homes don't lend themselves towards post apocalyptic survival conditions.


Again, i beg to differ in the case of this particular TEOTWAWKI scenario for many, many reasons.

Though moving out to a more remote location after year ten (ish) would most likely be essential.

[Danny]

because of the smell of kelp.

[p2501]

I think both Wooley adn Deadman are similarly correct.

given this sort of situation. within the opening few months. it would be advantagious to fall back into and area or tactical familiarity. in the short term suburbia would be ideal for raiding supplies and living in an E&E manner moving from devlopement to developement. however longer term survival would almostt certainly require a fortified homestead, and an area to grow food.

[Danny]

We can agree on that. I mean, I hate it when people go see "faith healers" and disregard medical treatment for their disease or ailment because they are "cured" by these people (who require "donations") and they end up dieing. I'm sorry, but if I were in that position I would go see my docter, and place my trust in him, not some hack who smacks you on the forehead and "cures" your cancer.
And alot of people go for it too, but I suppose when people can tap into their faith and beliefs, it really strikes a cord in those who go for that treatment. It hurts alot knowing how many people have died because of that..to me it could be considered malpractice...I mean, they are supposed to be "curing" them, and they tell these people to not go for medical treatment, and to stop doing whatever they are doing as they have been cured.

*slaps him on the head* DEMON BE GONE!:lol:

[Marie]

sorry if I offended, but,...fairytale religion is on it's way out. Reality is in.

Would it mean anything if I told you people have been saying that for at least the last couple of thousand years?

I'm not trying to be offensive, and I'm certainly not offended. We'll all find out the truth when we die won't we?

M_

[Danny]

that the worls is run by crab people!

"crab people....crab people.... tastes like crab....talks like people....":lol:

[creepntom]

i'm not sure about what i'd ration but i'd probably do something similiar to land, as in raid the smaller towns for whatever i needed

that or take shelter in a super wal mart or some mega grocery store

[Wooley]

I'd like to know why Dead Man Deluxe thinks suburbia is a good choice to hunker down in. I can't see a single good reason myself. Homes are close together, which will add to the fire danger. They are on small plots of land, making farming impossible. Urban codes prohibit livestock. Large population concentrations mean large numbers of unprepared neighbors, looters, rioters, and zombies in close proximity. Small plot size also limits your defensive abilities, as does the close packed homes-having homes so close limits both your visibility, and field of fire, and it'd be hard to lay any type of fortifications in a little yard. The homes would be stiffling hot in summer, freezing in winter due to a lack of any backup heating/cooling technology, or design. They are also hard to fortify-a .22 bullet would penetrate most 2x4 construction, I'd think, and the materials don't have fireproofing in mind.

Urban areas will become untenable as soon as electrical power goes down and stays down, because without power, all other facets of modern civilization collapse too-clean running water, sewage, ATMs and other monetary systems, refrigeration, gas station pumps, etc.

Yeah, you could get a generator, and plant a garden, and lay in a stockpile of canned goods and staples, but how long will that last before the neighbors notice you aren't starving, and start coming around asking, and eventually demanding you share, despite the fact you have very little for yourself? What do you do when you turn them down? They won't be happy, and all it'd take is one little Molotov Cocktail on your roof to leave you totally SOL.

Cities, and suburbs won't be the places to be when the SHTF.