Diary of the Dead 2 Production Begins (?)

[DubiousComforts]

Diary of the Dead 2 Production Begins (http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_12606.html)

Awesome, an untold number of months of fan bitching and belly-aching begins!

[capncnut]

You do surprise me Dubs, I posted this three weeks ago.


Diary 2 to begin production this September. Here's the lowdown.


The boys over at Dread Central are reporting that George A. Romero is set to direct Diary of the Dead 2 this September. The website "learned that George has to attend several meetings about DIARY 2 which have the project significantly hitting the fast track. So significantly that we got the word it's 99.9% a go for the film to start production this September..." Our heroes, trapped in the mansion where we left them, battle waves of ravenous zombies, barely escaping alive. In search of a safe place to settle, they commandeer an abandoned ferry and sail to a deserted island, only to find that it is already populated by a civilization of the dead. The next episode of the saga is a violent siege set in the middle of nowhere, a desperate struggle for survival, and peace, between two tribes: the living and the living dead.
But yeah, let the battles commence...

[Danny Terror]

How bout ' it !!

So it's true. I have no problem with another Romero Zombie film.
And I'm sure it'll be better than the first Diary ....


Danny T.

[bassman]

Ugh. Come on, George! Leave the dead alone. Do something else, man. I love your dead movies, but it's time to move on...

[DubiousComforts]

You do surprise me Dubs, I posted this three weeks ago.
This is different news, however, about the alleged opening of the Diary 2 production office in Toronto.

Next news report: Uncle George opens a new can of beans!

[Danny Terror]

This is being reported on several sites now. All within a few hours.

I think it's real. So here we go again ... Now someone start crying :lol:

[DubiousComforts]

Now someone start crying :lol:

http://www.cocochats.com/whining.jpg

[Bub666]

Diary of the Dead 2 Production Begins (http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_12606.html)

Awesome, an untold number of months of fan bitching and belly-aching begins!


:hyper::hyper::hyper:

[3pidemiC]

Meh.

Better than nothing? Right?

I would prefer this than have GAR go on a completely zombie haitus like he did from Day to Land.

[axlish]

After reading the article, I can't help but be proud of Mr. Romero for sticking to his guns and going forth with not only another first person film, but also going forth with the whole zombie intellegence uprising as well. I believe that he is doing the right thing by going forth with this franchise (just like he always said he would, depending on the success of the first entry). It keeps him busy and hopefully he will give us a little bit better of an offering this time, even though I do like Diary (7 out of 10).

[AcesandEights]

Well, it'd be hard for it to be worst, and we need more decent zombie movies, so I'll cross my fingers.

[clanglee]

civilization of the dead.

and peace, between two tribes: the living and the living dead.



:barf:

[sandrock74]

How does one make peace with a "society" of mindless cannibals? Maybe build the giant King Kong wall and sacrifice a woman to the zombies on the other side each full moon?
I would love to see that contractural agreement!

[SymphonicX]

Yeah I reckon it'll be hard to be worse than the original, so really the only way is up. There's no way George hasn't seen the flaws with Diary, it was a valiant effort but it needed much more work and a fresh pair of eyes to give some constructive criticism...let's hope this time around he nails it, we know he's got the talent!

[Danny Terror]

Yeah I reckon it'll be hard to be worse than the original, so really the only way is up. There's no way George hasn't seen the flaws with Diary, it was a valiant effort but it needed much more work and a fresh pair of eyes to give some constructive criticism...let's hope this time around he nails it, we know he's got the talent!


That's right. And while Diary sure ain't perfect, for a little, cheap George Romero Zombie film it's passable in most respects. We can't think of Diary like we do NOTLD. While that was another inexpensive, small George Romero Zombie film he had more help that time and we can't think of Diary like DOTD because, well ... There will never be anything like that again. But a NEW film that's a sequel to Diary can open up a lot of new Zombie stuff that might really work out even to the people that hated Diary. (And let's face it LAND.)

I say we are in for a treat man.
:blood:

[MinionZombie]

I too liked Diary, but it is the one I like least out of them all.

I'll definitely watch Diary 2, and no doubt enjoy it. Hopefully he takes Diary and lifts it up into a new realm, really pinches off a nice, solid effort with lots of fun to be had.

I would like to see him make something that isn't a zombie movie, now that he's done two in a row after his career comeback, but indeed - at least he's making movies, and as the HPOTD polls show, movies that most of us like or indeed love.

You've also gotta hand it to him - he does what he wants to do, so fair play to the guvnor.

[bassman]

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You've also gotta hand it to him - he does what he wants to do, so fair play to the guvnor.


I don't know, man. He's been saying for years that he would love to do projects outside of the dead series, but nobody will back him for a non-zombie effort.

Personally, I would love to see any of the other ideas he's thrown out there in recent years. A comedy, a musical, and a new take on Tarzan. Any of those would be something I could get behind.

[axlish]

I'd rather hom continue to make more zombie films than to be idle. Diary was pitched as a new trilogy so don't be surpised when part 3 is announced. Diary isn't everyones cup of tea but the man is still making "message" films like he wants to.

[MinionZombie]

I don't know, man. He's been saying for years that he would love to do projects outside of the dead series, but nobody will back him for a non-zombie effort.

Personally, I would love to see any of the other ideas he's thrown out there in recent years. A comedy, a musical, and a new take on Tarzan. Any of those would be something I could get behind.
I guess what I was really meaning was, when he gets to make something, he gets to make something he wants to do.

That's more accurate to my thoughts I guess.

[sandrock74]

Most everyone will have a new zombie film to hate! I have a long standing theory that (most) everyone hates the newest Dead film.
Day was almost universally hated (right here on this site) until Land came out, then bunches of people began singing Day's praises all of a sudden while bad mouthing Land.
Then Diary comes out and all of a sudden people start admitting to liking Land (even if just a little bit) while saying how much they disliked Diary.

I by no means speak in terms of "all" or "everyone", just a generalization. I can't wait until Diary 2 comes out so I can see the negativity to it while the first one starts getting some positiveity. LOL! We are all like the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons! "Worst episode ever."

[SRP76]

I can't wait until Diary 2 comes out so I can see the negativity to it while the first one starts getting some positiveity.

That theory only works if people actually go see this new movie. I can't speak for everyone, but I know I won't be seeing it. I've had the desire to see another crappy zombie film just beaten right out of me by the last two disasters.

And I can't be the only one; there are sure to be others that have thrown in the towel, too.

[DubiousComforts]

And I can't be the only one; there are sure to be others that have thrown in the towel, too.
Yeah, let's start a list. This way, everyone else will know in advance who's postings they won't have to read.

[SRP76]

Well, if you don't want to have to be bothered with posts from people who aren't going to post what you want them to, you can just just add me to your "ignore" list. This forum does come with that feature, you know.

[Dead Hoosier]

I despised Land and thought Diary was OK at best, but I will certainly be there to see Diary II ... that is, if it comes to my town. After the Diary release disaster, who knows?

[Trin]

Most everyone will have a new zombie film to hate! I have a long standing theory that (most) everyone hates the newest Dead film.
Day was almost universally hated (right here on this site) until Land came out, then bunches of people began singing Day's praises all of a sudden while bad mouthing Land.
Then Diary comes out and all of a sudden people start admitting to liking Land (even if just a little bit) while saying how much they disliked Diary.

I by no means speak in terms of "all" or "everyone", just a generalization. I can't wait until Diary 2 comes out so I can see the negativity to it while the first one starts getting some positiveity. LOL! We are all like the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons! "Worst episode ever."Another explanation for what you're seeing is that after Dawn each Dead movie is worse than the last, and the viewers are only more forgiving of the earlier one because the newer one has lowered the bar. By comparison the previous movie doesn't seem so bad.

That's exactly how I feel about Land vs. Diary. In absolute terms I don't like Land any more than I did before... but I like it more than Diary, and Diary made Land a more palatable experience.

I really, really, really wish that GAR would turn out an undisputed gem of a Dead film. That would shake the foundations around here.

[DubiousComforts]

Well, if you don't want to have to be bothered with posts from people who aren't going to post what you want them to, you can just just add me to your "ignore" list. This forum does come with that feature, you know.
But my way will be so much more funner as a "group project." :D

Besides, how would anyone know in advance who is or isn't going to see the movie if we don't make a list?


I really, really, really wish that GAR would turn out an undisputed gem of a Dead film.
Obviously, the irony of my previous "waiting for chocolate air" comment was lost.

[Danny Terror]

Another explanation for what you're seeing is that after Dawn each Dead movie is worse than the last, and the viewers are only more forgiving of the earlier one because the newer one has lowered the bar. By comparison the previous movie doesn't seem so bad.

That's exactly how I feel about Land vs. Diary. In absolute terms I don't like Land any more than I did before... but I like it more than Diary, and Diary made Land a more palatable experience.

I really, really, really wish that GAR would turn out an undisputed gem of a Dead film. That would shake the foundations around here.

Well I actually think LAND is better than Diary. Just my opinion. I still have trouble with DAY depending on my mood I guess, but all in all each Romero DEAD flick has given me something to like and remember so I can find all the good that might be mixed in with the bad. Some are better than others for sure, but there's no way that he would even consider trying to top each film as he was making another. That's just not the way he does things. After DAWN I think we have to look at each Dead flick that George gives us and admit : It is what it is. Period. -- Now the hard part ....

Even if it's not as good as NOTLD and DAWN can we find something to like about the movie?? I mean come on we are all supposedly fans of his. Think of your favorite band that has been around for a long period of time. If you consider yourself a die-hard fan of their albums but like some better than others it's the same thing. You don't just ditch out on the artist and complain how much they "Suck" now. You take each offering for what it it's worth and hope the next one is more to your taste. Why is it different here??

[sandrock74]

Remember what I said: "mostly". I never used the term "all" implying absolute. There are exceptions to every rule.

I would like to see Diary 2 at the theater but it would need to play closer to where I live. I am in a major area but it was showing out in the sticks! What the hell?

[Mutineer]

Do we need another reality zombie film ? Damn George.

(Yeaeah, DVD Sales ....)

[MinionZombie]

I don't think Day was that hated prior to Land coming out, in fact on the contrary I think it was loved a lot (and still is). The general air of hatred surrounding it seemed to be during the 1980s, by the time HPOTD was off and running Day was generally considered to be a great film and that was always the impression I've gotten from the members over my past decade here.

I do think that Land was the 'new kid on the block' and was always going to be somewhat separated from Night, Dawn and Day. However, in a tangent from your post earlier, I do think Land is finding a wider audience as people who didn't like it begin to warm up to it ... that said there's still people who simply hate it and that's the end of that.

I loved Land from the off, had a blast seeing it on opening day in the cinema, wearing my HPOTD t-shirt, checking it out with a fellow zed-head, it was great. I've since seen it several times and I still totally dig it.

Now though, Diary is the new kid on the block, so it's taking the largest hammering. However, I maintain that Diary is my least favourite of all of GAR's zed flicks - but as I'm such a GAR fan, that still means I enjoy Diary and like it - but I do think it's the weakest one.

I have a feeling that perhaps Diary 2 will beat Diary 1, as GAR might have more time to manipulate the idea (having had the experience and trialing of Diary 1) and perhaps a bigger budget to go along with it.

This all said however, one the several polls regarding the HPOTD reaction to Land of the Dead - everytime the over all response was positive. Again with a similar poll for Diary, the response over all is positive.

I think I would have been more stoked about GAR doing his "road runner cartoon zombie flick" type thing he mentioned a while back, a GAR zombie comedy would be quite interesting to see, more so than a sequel to Diary. However, if Diary 2 is better than Diary 1, it'll be worth it in the end.

But I still wanna see his zombie comedy ... but perhaps after he's done something other than zombies after Diary 2.

[EvilNed]

I'll see it, but I'm not hyped. But a zombie film is always a zombie film. I'm sure I'll get some pleasure out of it, and who knows, it might actually turn out to be great.

[mista_mo]

I liked Diary. Good film, entertaining, scary, funny. Not great, nor is it his best but it sure as hell ain't s*it.

[Trin]

I don't think Day was that hated prior to Land coming out, in fact on the contrary I think it was loved a lot (and still is). The general air of hatred surrounding it seemed to be during the 1980s, by the time HPOTD was off and running Day was generally considered to be a great film and that was always the impression I've gotten from the members over my past decade here.
That's true. I'd go a step further and say that while Day wasn't a big hit with the critics and with plenty of general horror fans, the GAR faithful quickly warmed up to it.


I do think that Land was the 'new kid on the block' and was always going to be somewhat separated from Night, Dawn and Day.
I think people were willing to accept Land into the series. They were positively giddy over the idea of it. You yourself have said all along that Land was killed because of too high expectations. People don't generate high expectations over a movie they aren't willing to embrace in the first place.

Attribute all the reasons you want to the relative success of Land and Diary but the simple truth is that the circumstances of the release of these movies is not the issue. The quality of the movies is. If GAR turns out a really great zombie movie all the newness and expectation problems won't matter a bit. People will love it and accept it.

I'll see Diary 2. I'll see Diary 3, 4, 9, 15, and 99 if it goes that far. And I hope it does.

[MinionZombie]

I didn't mean "cos it's new, it's not accepted", I meant that there's always gonna be a slight bit of awkwardness when a sequel comes along 20 years later.

The previous movies have been viewed FAR MANY MORE TIMES than Land has, by the GAR faithful, and it's like a sibling who's say ten years younger, there's always gonna be that awkwardness or degree of separation - but they're STILL accepted into the family. See what I'm trying to get at?

Also, with a number of fans - those of my age and younger - all three dead flicks had already been made and released before they were born (Day was released the year after I rocked up in the world), or indeed by the time other slightly older fans got around to getting into the flicks, they were again already in existence ... which is a totally different way of viewing a flick. Catching up in hindsight, and then waiting for a movie to come out, then seeing it are two different ways of movie viewing.

I didn't have that with Land, I was stoked to have a new one, and I see it as a continuation from Day.

As for "quality", again, clearly only the haters of them see any quality problems, or indeed there are lovers/likers who might see quality issues, or minor problems, but just see beyond them/ignore them as they have far more positives after their viewing of the film.

As for expectation, again, it's not an issue of "acceptance", it's an issue of fan's minds left to stew and come up with their ideal 4th movie ... but Land was only ever going to be GAR's movie, and it's a case of whether people dig that or not, and I think that some people ended up disliking or flat out hating Land because it didn't meet their expectations. Again - MY view, and SOME people.

Still though - Land and Diary have both been received positively by the majority of HPOTD.

That's all I was trying to get at, can't make myself any clearer. I'm not getting arsey either, so calm down people of HPOTD. :p

[Trin]

Yeah, I get what yer saying. I just get cheesed when people try to find niggly little excuses for why the newer Dead movies are getting criticized that don't acknowledge the #1 reason a movie gets criticized - it's quality. It's like people aren't willing to look the problem in the eye, you know?

I'm just saying that if the newer Dead movies recieve harsher criticism - maybe, just maybe - it's because they are actually worse movies. Not saying they aren't worthy additions to the series, or that a person is wrong to like them. But it could be evidence that within the series the movies are going downhill. Enough people around here rate Land and Diary as their two least favorites that it makes sense.

I'm also looking back to when Night & Dawn came out. It was just wow. They were universally loved. It wasn't just zombie fans, or even just horror fans. It didn't take repeated viewings or some indefinite warming up period. Right out of the chute those movies were hits. So forgive me but I scoff at the comments that Land & Diary are well accepted. Yes, within the microcosm of HPOTD they are. That's proven. But by the standards of Night & Dawn they're just not. Nor will they ever be. That ship has sailed.

I wish they were that loved. It would mean a much brighter future for GAR and zombie movies in general.

I still have hope that Diary 2 (or whatever future Dead movie we get) is going to be a step up and elevate the franchise back to where it belongs. I'd like to see GAR turning down deals rather than begging for them.

[clanglee]

*steps in with big clock around neck*

" Yeahhhhhhh Boyeeeeee!!!!!"

*crosses arms around chest and stares MZ down*


;):D

[MinionZombie]

*puts Proton Pack on*

"Throw it!"

*gives Clanglee a cheeky grin and gives him a wee zap*

Ya cheeky beggar. :p:D

[Yojimbo]

(Saying this as one among those who actually liked "Diary")

Personally, I would have liked to have seen GAR do another zombie film - not a "sequel" per se, but with a new set of characters. (Wondering if they are going to continue in this "sequel" with the first person camera bit?)

But all that having been said, I agree with those that at least it is another zombie film- always up for that. Not only is it in the particular niche of the horror genre that I enjoy, but it is by George A. Romero, a man who I not only respect but also a director/writer who's films I have consistenly enjoyed watching for over 30+ years.

I know that unlike me, many of my friends here did not like Diary, but that notwithstanding I am sure that most will concede that as a zombie film "Diary" was far, far better than most of what is being offered to us in the zombie genre.

As to whether or not I will like this so-called "Diary 2" I will reserve judgement until I get a chance to see it, as those here who are fair minded will also do.

[bassman]

*puts Proton Pack on*

"Throw it!"

*gives Clanglee a cheeky grin and gives him a wee zap*

Ya cheeky beggar. :p:D

*insert Stimpy's happy scream*

You're my new best friend for that one.


:lol:

[DubiousComforts]

Yeah, I get what yer saying. I just get cheesed when people try to find niggly little excuses for why the newer Dead movies are getting criticized that don't acknowledge the #1 reason a movie gets criticized - it's quality. It's like people aren't willing to look the problem in the eye, you know?
The "quality" that you're speaking of is in the eye of the beholder. It's obvious to any grade-schooler that Romero's latest films are produced at a far higher technical level than his earlier efforts which are now considered "classics" despite the technical limitations. Neither DAWN nor NIGHT were universally loved when first released. To claim as much now is to look back on the past through rose-colored glasses.

Just a suggestion, but perhaps you won't feel "cheesed" if you didn't justify your dislike of a film by trying to find criticism with the aspects that others enjoy.

[Mutineer]

I'll see it, but I'm not hyped. But a zombie film is always a zombie film. I'm sure I'll get some pleasure out of it, and who knows, it might actually turn out to be great.


True true.

[MinionZombie]

*insert Stimpy's happy scream*

You're my new best friend for that one.


:lol:
http://members.cox.net/jsbaker55/pics/ren-n-stimpy.gif

[Trin]

The "quality" that you're speaking of is in the eye of the beholder. It's obvious to any grade-schooler that Romero's latest films are produced at a far higher technical level than his earlier efforts which are now considered "classics" despite the technical limitations. Neither DAWN nor NIGHT were universally loved when first released. To claim as much now is to look back on the past through rose-colored glasses.

Just a suggestion, but perhaps you won't feel "cheesed" if you didn't justify your dislike of a film by trying to find criticism with the aspects that others enjoy.Yes, the quality is in the eye of the beholder. And look at how many people on this forum think Land and Diary are the two worst.

And any high-schooler can make a film that is better technically than what Romero made in '68. So that makes Diary a better quality film than Night? Day '08 is better quality technically too.

Rose colored glasses. Feel free to tell yourselves that Land and Diary are doing as well as Night and Dawn did. I'll get out of your way.

[clanglee]

The "quality" that you're speaking of is in the eye of the beholder. It's obvious to any grade-schooler that Romero's latest films are produced at a far higher technical level than his earlier efforts which are now considered "classics" despite the technical limitations. Neither DAWN nor NIGHT were universally loved when first released. To claim as much now is to look back on the past through rose-colored glasses.

Just a suggestion, but perhaps you won't feel "cheesed" if you didn't justify your dislike of a film by trying to find criticism with the aspects that others enjoy.

Come on man. . I don't think anyone was suggesting that the technical quality was worse in the new movies. . .The "quality" in this case refers to the story, the passion, and the originality of the first three movies, that is lacking in the last 2. Especially in the case of Diary.

[capncnut]

Filming begins in Toronto on September 15th.

Click (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13353) for article.

[DubiousComforts]

Click (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13353) for article.
Already, absolutely hysterical comments...

"This really pisses me off. Not because the last movie was complete and utter buttcrack, but because I know I'm going to eventually buy it. It's hard being a horror fan in your thirties."

"I always look forward to a new Romero movie but, I'm not gonna Hold my breath for another Great. Oh! and George how about a remake of 'Martin' Surely with todays FX It could be Fantastic."

The movie has yet to begin shooting and already it delivers.

[Mike70]

Already, absolutely hysterical comments...

"This really pisses me off. Not because the last movie was complete and utter buttcrack, but because I know I'm going to eventually buy it. It's hard being a horror fan in your thirties."

"I always look forward to a new Romero movie but, I'm not gonna Hold my breath for another Great. Oh! and George how about a remake of 'Martin' Surely with todays FX It could be Fantastic."

The movie has yet to begin shooting and already it delivers.


my fav comment from there has got to be this one:


im so stoked for another bad movie from him again

like whoa dude. how tubeular.

i'm gonna need a rocking chair and some popcorn for the run up to this flick.

[Trin]

Those are hilarious. Another to add to the list:

"Diary of George Romero's Political Agenda 2"

[DubiousComforts]

Come on man. . I don't think anyone was suggesting that the technical quality was worse in the new movies. . .The "quality" in this case refers to the story, the passion, and the originality of the first three movies, that is lacking in the last 2. Especially in the case of Diary.
But that's the point--those aspects are entirely subjective unlike, say, Russo's films which are all bad. :D



i'm gonna need a rocking chair and some popcorn for the run up to this flick.
There's no way the actual film can ever live up to the anti-hype.



Those are hilarious. Another to add to the list:

"Diary of George Romero's Political Agenda 2"
Several brainiacs even believe the accompanying artwork is real.

"George's A. Romero's"? :stunned:

[Mike70]

There's no way the actual film can ever live up to the anti-hype.



probably not. we should really compile the choice bits of internet wisdom leading up to this film. it would make a completely entertaining read.

in addition, let's start our own rumors and see if anyone runs with it. the more outrageous the better. something like, "i hear the flying monkeys from the wizard of OZ are gonna make an appearance." and "i heard it from someone on set that the zombie col. sanders is the leader of the dead civilization."

[Yojimbo]

probably not. we should really compile the choice bits of internet wisdom leading up to this film. it would make a completely entertaining read.

in addition, let's start our own rumors and see if anyone runs with it. the more outrageous the better. something like, "i hear the flying monkeys from the wizard of OZ are gonna make an appearance." and "i heard it from someone on set that the zombie col. sanders is the leader of the dead civilization."

I heard that if you watch this film and like it that you turn into a newt.

[Bub666]

in addition, let's start our own rumors and see if anyone runs with it. the more outrageous the better. something like, "i hear the flying monkeys from the wizard of OZ are gonna make an appearance." and "i heard it from someone on set that the zombie col. sanders is the leader of the dead civilization."

I heard that if you watch this film,you die 7 days later!

[SRP76]

"i heard it from someone on set that the zombie col. sanders is the leader of the dead civilization."

Oh, great. They're not satisfied just eating us raw; now zombies are demanding "7 herbs and spices". Damn ungrateful ghouls...

[clanglee]

I heard that if you watch this film and like it that you turn into a newt.

But you'll get better!!


I heard that this movie is going to feature Big Daddy before his zombiefication. He is just as loud and annoying alive!!


Filming begins in Toronto on September 15th.

Click (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13353) for article.

Sooooo. . Riddle me this then? If filming begins on Sept 15th? What's George doing in Charlotte all weekend from the 19th to the 21st? Hmmmmm. . .

[Trin]

I heard that the movie will feature a zombie civilization and will continue in the handheld documentary style even though Jason is dead and everyone who lived through the movie criticized him for doing that.

Face it - you can't make up a rumor more ridiculous than the truth. *crying*


"George's A. Romero's"? :stunned:It's an intentional error. That is the poster's social commentary on George's legendary inattention to detail. It's a reflection of the times. I'm sorry you didn't "get" it. :) :) :) :) :)

[Mike70]

Face it - you can't make up a rumor more ridiculous than the truth. *crying*


that won't stop us from trying.



Sooooo. . Riddle me this then? If filming begins on Sept 15th? What's George doing in Charlotte all weekend from the 19th to the 21st? Hmmmmm. . .

coming into to town to smoke a fat one with you?

[clanglee]

coming into to town to smoke a fat one with you?

:lol::lol:
Aside from that. . .

[Trin]

I know I'm not usually the optimistic one around here, nor am I the modern day GAR fanboy, but there are some things in the article that give me hope.

Waves of ravenous zombies sounds good. Desperate struggle. Good.

I'd also have to say that if you took the characters in Diary and asked me which ones I'd be okay with seeing survive for a sequel I probably would've chosen the exact group that survived.

I'm going to ignore the zombie civilization thing. I'm just going to pretend that means "lots of them." And the whole peace thing I'm going to interpret as "putting them at peace."

[clanglee]

The glass is half full of rotting entrails Trin.

:p:D:D

[sandrock74]

When do the werewolves show up? Romero could use them to symbolize americas treatment of the war against terror or something....
Nah, he'd just tell us about it repeatedly throughout the course of the movie.

[Mikey]

I heard that the movie will feature a zombie civilization and will continue in the handheld documentary style even though Jason is dead and everyone who lived through the movie criticized him for doing that.

Face it - you can't make up a rumor more ridiculous than the truth. *crying*

It's an intentional error. That is the poster's social commentary on George's legendary inattention to detail. It's a reflection of the times. I'm sorry you didn't "get" it. :) :) :) :) :)


I HATED the hand held camera and everyone in the film bitching about "why are you filming this???" pure crap.

George, you're gonna **** this up bad.

[Trin]

The glass is half full of rotting entrails Trin.

:p:D:DI've decided to enjoy the anticipation before the movie, since that may be the only enjoyable part.


I HATED the hand held camera and everyone in the film bitching about "why are you filming this???" pure crap.

George, you're gonna **** this up bad.You, sir, are harshing my mellow. :p

[DubiousComforts]

I HATED the hand held camera and everyone in the film bitching about "why are you filming this???" pure crap.

George, you're gonna **** this up bad.

I've decided to enjoy the anticipation before the movie, since that may be the only enjoyable part.
Good luck, Trin, let us know how that works out for you. :D

[darth los]

Imo, The handheld perspective is good in short bursts. Some aspects of the story actaully benefit from it. However, there are others that suffer from it. truthfully, I like the first person perspective confined to my shooters.

[Trin]

Good luck, Trin, let us know how that works out for you. :DIt's working great, my friend. Thanks for asking!! :)

I'm not a fan at all of the first person perspective thing. I won't say it really killed Diary for me, but it sure didn't help. I felt like the whole movie was coming to me through a tunnel and I couldn't see what I wanted to see or could've seen given a third person perspective or a mixed perspective. I agree that it's good in short bursts or to bring home specific points. But the whole movie? It felt like a gimmick to me. And like most gimmicks one use is about all they're good for.

[MoonSylver]

I'm going to ignore the zombie civilization thing. I'm just going to pretend that means "lots of them." And the whole peace thing I'm going to interpret as "putting them at peace."

I'm thinking this could be a bit of hyper-press release-hyperbole...it certainly reads like it. I'm not reading too much into it...yet.

[Dead Hoosier]

It's so funny to hear GAR fans bitching about him making a zombie movie. Who could've imagined it four years ago?

[Bub666]

It's so funny to hear GAR fans bitching about him making a zombie movie. Who could've imagined it four years ago?

I know,I'am so happy he's making another zombie movie.

[capncnut]

I reiterate, I thought Diary Of The Dead was okay, and I'd rather GAR would make something else other than par zombie flicks but hey, if he's happy then I'm happy. :)

[Bub666]

I reiterate, I thought Diary Of The Dead was okay, and I'd rather GAR would make something else other than par zombie flicks but hey, if he's happy then I'm happy. :)

Thats the problem,most people just want him to make zombie movies.Do you really think anyone is going to give him money to make a movie thats not about zombies?And thats a shame,cause he make some really good non zombie movies too.

[capncnut]

Well a number of projects have flown his way, such as Solitary Isle for example, which was said to be a horrorfied Lost clone. Also, he has expressed interest in making a legitimate Creepshow sequel. I think Romero on name alone could generate enough funds in regards to making a movie outside of the zombie genre for sure.

But everything is good for him inside the zombie genre for now, so I'm sure he'll do the obligatory (and par) Diary trilogy before tackling something new.

[MinionZombie]

It's working great, my friend. Thanks for asking!! :)

I'm not a fan at all of the first person perspective thing. I won't say it really killed Diary for me, but it sure didn't help. I felt like the whole movie was coming to me through a tunnel and I couldn't see what I wanted to see or could've seen given a third person perspective or a mixed perspective. I agree that it's good in short bursts or to bring home specific points. But the whole movie? It felt like a gimmick to me. And like most gimmicks one use is about all they're good for.
I think a combination of both worlds would have been ideal - as in, the hand-held vibe but non-first-person-view - so you'd have the immediacy and faster filming experience of hand held, but the coverage of traditional filming.

I think that would be the best angle/view personally, because indeed, first person is limiting.

[Trin]

I think a combination of both worlds would have been ideal - as in, the hand-held vibe but non-first-person-view - so you'd have the immediacy and faster filming experience of hand held, but the coverage of traditional filming.

I think that would be the best angle/view personally, because indeed, first person is limiting.Can you speak to what, as a filmmaker, GAR was buying himself by going with a total first person perspective? I mean, as a movie-goer I don't get it. Was he trying to add intensity? Was it purely to reinforce the message? Was it a gimmick?

Or asked another way, what would he have given up by showing third-person stuff here and there. In the barn, them driving up to the hospital, etc. He used the security cameras at the black compound and in the "fortress" mansion to do that anyway. He also used news clips that were obviously from a third-person perspective. There were zombies shambling around as if there was no cameraman.

[MinionZombie]

Diary is supposed to be someone's documentary, made within that universe - "The Death of Death". The film would be pointless if third person stuff was bunged in willy nilly here and there, so it has to all be subjective camera.

The other footage - the gathered stuff, be it CCTV or online - makes sense within the story, and is stuff accessible by the protagonists.

The whole point of the movie is the YouTube generation angle of the story, in such a situation there would no doubt be such activity going on - whether someone would make an entire documentary is another thing, but that has to happen in order to have an assembled film for us to view in the cinema/on DVD.

It's not reinforcing the message, it is PART of the message, of the point of the movie. A movie that is specifically looking at the YouTube way of life wouldn't make much sense in objective camera view.

...

Now, with Diary 2, the log line info seems to make it more about the story the characters are going through, rather than the story AND the central issues, which is why I was talking about it'd be neat if it sat somewhere in between subjective and objective - all hand-held, but none of it first person (or mostly none of it).

[darth los]

It's so funny to hear GAR fans bitching about him making a zombie movie. Who could've imagined it four years ago?


That's not the point. If he makes a crappy film he's gonna get called on it.

This reminds me of a sports story. Michael Jordan Is the greatest player to ever lace up a pair of basketball sneakers. When he retired in 98' his legacy was cemented. Then he decided to come back in 01' And his legacy was tainted. Fans didn't want to see anything less than superman, which he was.

It's the same with Gar. After the first 3 films he was the undisputed king/Godfather of the genre. He decided to take another go at it and he tainted his legacy.

[Mike70]

here's a bit i found over at deadcentral:


George also let me know that there will be a lot of DAWN type moments in the sequel. Hell yeah.

alrighty then.

http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/34653

*fixed link, MZ*

[MinionZombie]

That won't be the real poster, seesh.

They haven't even shot the movie - ergo, how are you going to have any images for it, let alone figure out a vibe for it?

That image is from Diary 1, and features one of the first zombies seen on screen, plus that's been floating around for-absolutely-ever, and at least one time was considered fake ... and finally, it's got a spelling mistake on it. :lol:

[Mike70]

That won't be the real poster, seesh.

They haven't even shot the movie - ergo, how are you going to have any images for it, let alone figure out a vibe for it?

That image is from Diary 1, and features one of the first zombies seen on screen, plus that's been floating around for-absolutely-ever, and at least one time was considered fake ... and finally, it's got a spelling mistake on it. :lol:

yeah, i couldn't help but chuckle at this one. aintitcool must be having a laugh with us all.

george's a. romero's. whatever folks.

[Bub666]

I think thats the first zombie we see in Diary 1.

[EvilNed]

I do want another zombie film from George. But I don't want a sequel to Diary.

If anything, I'd just want another stand-alone story set in the world of the dead, with a damn good story. He can toss the overt political tones aside, and just write a good script centered around a political issue, but where the key ingredients would be suspense, terror and excitement. Heck. I'd love that.

[Mike70]

ok. i don't know how i missed this one or if it's even been posted before (trust me, i'm too lazy to look) but there is scuttlebutt straight from romero's mouth that he'd like to have bub (who would be alive for starters) in diary 2.


The other day B-D reporter BC chatted with legendary director George A. Romero about his forthcoming DVD release of Diary of the Dead, which streets on May 20 (more details here). During the interview something interesting came up where Romero teased the possibility of 'Bub' (from DAY OF THE DEAD) returning in his next zombie picture. Read on for the skinny.

Romero talked with B-D about the possibility of characters from DAWN OF THE DEAD or DAY OF THE DEAD ever appearing in the upcoming films. "I had to go to great lengths for Savini to appear in LAND [OF THE DEAD] in his old costume from DAWN [OF THE DEAD]. The problem is those films are owned and controlled by other people," he explains. "They're no longer mine, and it's very expensive. I can't do like Steve King did with CASTLE ROCK. However, if i could get the permission.... there's a character in my new script which could be become Bub, in other words, he would be alive now. But they'd probably want a lot of money for that. I'm bad with that business stuff (laughs)."

this appears to be from a few months ago, so i don't know what the present status of this idea is.

this little snippet is from a bit after the first interview:


After we broke the news here that we might see Bub in action, Romero tells the site, "I’m using a couple of the big characters but not the ones you would expect. I’m starting with the girl that took off…

ok. that makes some sense. a lot of folks have wondered what became of her.


oh and for your reading amusement some more anti-hype:


Ugh. I hated Diary Of The Dead. It was boring and lacked blood and gore. And how can they have Bub in the sequel if Diary is not set in the same world as the Night Of The Living Dead series?


the first really did suck, and i'm VERY forgiving of zombies and especially Romero. If they can kill the entire cast right off the bat and bring in some other folks into a better story line i MIGHT pay to see this. MAYBE!



ugh, who cares. Romero can only do one thing, zombies, whipptie ****ing do.

this might be my favorite:

World War Z is already being made, with Max Brooks at the helm, who SHOULD be. It's his idea. Diary was just awful, I'm one of the only people that saw it in the theater and it was a waste of money and dropped the average of the other Romero films significantly. It Sucked. And certainly is the least of his films to deserve any kind of treatment, especially a sequel. I was kind of hoping it wouldn't even make it to DVD, and people would just forget about it... Maybe George could just bury it in some soft peat for a few hundred years...


the dubious one was right, this film will never live up to the anti-hype.

[Mikey]

I do want another zombie film from George. But I don't want a sequel to Diary.

If anything, I'd just want another stand-alone story set in the world of the dead, with a damn good story. He can toss the overt political tones aside, and just write a good script centered around a political issue, but where the key ingredients would be suspense, terror and excitement. Heck. I'd love that.

Of all the movies George is gonna use the same characters from, he chooses Diary. What a load of crap! He could do so much better with different characters without that damn hand held first person camera crap, yet he chooses to make a sequel to the crappiest movie he ever made.

[DubiousComforts]

Of all the movies George is gonna use the same characters from, he chooses Diary. What a load of crap!
Perhaps you missed the way that the world works, but the Romero quotes posted by scipio will provide a clue:

Romero: ""I had to go to great lengths for Savini to appear in LAND [OF THE DEAD] in his old costume from DAWN [OF THE DEAD]. The problem is those films are owned and controlled by other people."

Ask Capcom how it's working out for them putting zombies in a shopping mall and get back to us.

[Mike70]

Perhaps you missed the way that the world works, but the Romero quotes posted by scipio will provide a clue:

Romero: ""I had to go to great lengths for Savini to appear in LAND [OF THE DEAD] in his old costume from DAWN [OF THE DEAD]. The problem is those films are owned and controlled by other people."

Ask Capcom how it's working out for them putting zombies in a shopping mall and get back to us.

some people also live in a fantasyland that requires artists to cast aside their own vision, wants, desires and ideas in place of "what the fans want."

it is a lame outlook on art and a crock of sh*t to boot.

[clanglee]

I hear ya Scip, but by the same token, If the film maker begins to ignore the fans and forget what it was that made people like his movies to begin with, then that filmmaker starts to make bad movies. The film maker should never pander entirely to the fans, but he should hang onto that which gathered his fans in the first place.

[Trin]

Sooo...... isn't anyone going to comment on GAR's musings over re-using characters from Day and Dawn? I mean, where's the whole separate universes/separate outbreaks thing now?

[Mike70]

Sooo...... isn't anyone going to comment on GAR's musings over re-using characters from Day and Dawn? I mean, where's the whole separate universes/separate outbreaks thing now?

frankly, i couldn't give a ferret's anus about timelines when push comes to shove. i think that telling a bit of bub's back story would be a great idea. it probably isn't going to happen though, sounds like there are too many flamming hoops to jump through.

i still love howard sherman's take on the bub character as a defrocked priest turned biker with a serious substance abuse problem. it'd be interesting to see how romero portrayed bub as a living person.

[AcesandEights]

He can toss the overt political tones aside, and just write a good script centered around a political issue, but where the key ingredients would be suspense, terror and excitement.

I wonder if he could manage this at present, or even cares to really try :(

[darth los]

I hear ya Scip, but by the same token, If the film maker begins to ignore the fans and forget what it was that made people like his movies to begin with, then that filmmaker starts to make bad movies. The film maker should never pander entirely to the fans, but he should hang onto that which gathered his fans in the first place.


I agree 100% and i've made that point in other threads. Reminds me a little of Bill Murray. He has gone away from what made him Kick ass. Damn are his movies bad now. :hurl:

[AcesandEights]

Reminds me a little of Bill Murray. He has gone away from what made him Kick ass. Damn are his movies bad now. :hurl:

Couldn't disagree more. Different isn't always bad and people do change their interests, styles and approaches to their work. My problem with GAR is his latest outings have been less than stellar (in my opinion) and they're still being sold as horror, which--if they are expected to be considered as such (or even a psychological thriller, or chilling look at the nature of man)--they are woefully missing the mark. :(

[darth los]

Couldn't disagree more. Different isn't always bad and people do change their interests, styles and approaches to their work. My problem with GAR is his latest outings have been less than stellar (in my opinion) and they're still being sold as horror, which--if they are expected to be considered as such (or even a psychological thriller, or chilling look at the nature of man)--they are woefully missing the mark. :(

I was actually talking about Murray's work.

I love Gar and what he brings to his films. If anything they are intelligent and thought provoking. They have layers to them. it's just that for some reason his dead films aren't what they used to be.

Maybe it's this. What do the first three have in Common? Among other things they had a clausterphobic feeling to them. In each film the protagonists were hiding from the undead armies outside. That stress took it's toll on the "group", differently in each case. That stress was the catalyst for exploring the human condition which is basically what the films were about. There was a formula there. In the more recent films there was much more open air.

[AcesandEights]

I was actually talking about Murray's work.

I know, that's what I was responding to with my first 2 sentences of my above reply, then I diverged and pointed out my problem with GAR :)

[darth los]

Oh, in that case different can also suck. :)

[AcesandEights]

Oh, in that case different can also suck. :)

:lol: I like a lot of the things Murray has done in the last 10 years. Hell, I think he was an absolutely brilliant fit, and funny as ever, in Rushmore for example.

[darth los]

:lol: I like a lot of the things Murray has done in the last 10 years. Hell, I think he was an absolutely brilliant fit, and funny as ever, in Rushmore for example.

Bassman is a Murray fan. I wonder how he feels about his recent work? Inquiring minds want to know !!!:hyper::hyper:

[bassman]

Bassman is a Murray fan. I wonder how he feels about his recent work? Inquiring minds want to know !!!:hyper::hyper:

His earlier work is his best, imo. He does have some recent films that are decent, though.

[clanglee]

I love Murray's recent work. Rushmore, Lost in Translation, and Broken Flowers are all great movies. To each his own I guess.

[bassman]

I love Murray's recent work. Rushmore, Lost in Translation, and Broken Flowers are all great movies. To each his own I guess.

Oh I like those. Don't get me wrong. Those are good, as well as, Life Aquatic(he was hilarious in that one), Coffee & Cigerettes, Royal Tenenbaums, etc. But on the other hand he also has, Garfield 1 & 2, Charlie's Angels, The MAn Who Knew Too Little, Wild Things, etc.:dead:

His earlier career just shines through, imo. Meatballs, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters 1 & 2, Stripes, Tootsie, Scrooged, What About Bob?, Groundhog Day, Kingpin, Ed Wood, Etc.

I honestly think he would have a pretty bad career now if it weren't for Wes Anderson's films. Wait a tick, why are we talking about Bill Murray in a Diary thread, again?:rockbrow:

[clanglee]

Because he Rocks!!!!!!

:D


besides. . aren't we bored with Diary speculation and argument yet? . . . . no? . . . . well. . carry on then.

[Bub666]

Wait a tick, why are we talking about Bill Murray in a Diary thread, again?:rockbrow:


:confused:

[Mike70]

besides. . aren't we bored with Diary speculation and argument yet? . . . . no? . . . . well. . carry on then.

NO!


We need more anti-hype!

we need more rumours about bub!

we need more bitching and whining!

[Danny]

cant be arsed to read all 7 pages, so excuse me if this has been said already but i heard on the mega 64 podcast that somewhere in the western side of america theres signs up for people to be extras in "george romeros latest zombie movie".
could be bollox but still worth mentioning.

[AcesandEights]

i heard on the mega 64 podcast that somewhere in the western side of america theres signs up for people to be extras in "george romeros latest zombie movie".

could be bollox but still worth mentioning.

Interesting. I tried doing a date range google fu search for some of the topics to see if I could a story, but the results are kind of hard to pair down and I have pages and pages of crap to browse through...but that's what work's for, right? Intriguing tidbit that I hadn't heard before, though.

[bassman]

And it said it's in America? I thought Romero does all his stuff in Canada now? Shouldn't the add for extras be around Canada then?:rockbrow:

[AcesandEights]

And it said it's in America? I thought Romero does all his stuff in Canada now? Shouldn't the add for extras be around Canada then?:rockbrow:

Maybe Canada is following suit in that great North American tradition of importing cheap labor from a destitute neighbor south of the border. :shifty:

[Neil]

Director George Romero is beginning production on an untitled thriller. Once again, the antagonists are flesh-eating zombies.Romero first mined zombies with "Night of the Living Dead" and has been cannibalizing the genre since, most recently with "Diary of the Dead."

Romero wrote the new film and began shooting this week in Ontario.

Plot involves inhabitants of an isolated island off the North American coast who find their relatives rising from the dead to eat their kin. The leaders of the island feud over whether or not to kill their reanimated relatives or preserve them in hopes of finding a cure.

Cast includes Alan Van Sprang, Kenneth Welsh, Kathleen Munroe, Devon Bostick, Richard Fitzpatrick, Stefano Colacitti and Athena Karkanis.

Paula Devonshire is producing. Romero is exec producer along with Peter Grunwald, D.J. Carson and Artfire Films' Ara Katz, Art Spigel and Dan Fireman. Voltage Pictures is handling international sales, and Cinetic Media will sell domestic.


And also this...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38603

Got to love the name on the ferry in the last pic :)

[clanglee]

Oh nice!!! starting to get excited!! Must . . . quell . . . that emotion. . . too. . . dangerous. . .

[MinionZombie]

*rubs hands together excitedly*

Bring it on...bring it on!

[Neil]

*rubs hands together excitedly*

Bring it on...bring it on!

PLEASE Romero! PLEASE let's have a nice straight forward flick this time!!!

[Bub666]

This sounds like it might be good.I'am keeping my fingers cross.

[MinionZombie]

I'm getting vibes of the Day original script with some of the sounds of this one, and I'm not the only one who has said such a thing either.

Hopefully he will be incorporating (albeit updated/altered) ideas from that original Day script. :cool:

[bassman]

So is this one being shot like a normal film and not like Diary?

I like Diary, but i'm really excited to see Romero giving up that first person gag....

[Neil]

So is this one being shot like a normal film and not like Diary?

I like Diary, but i'm really excited to see Romero giving up that first person gag....

Let's just hope he's got a good story/script with some good solid characters and plot ideas...

[Thorn]

Let's just hope he's got a good story/script with some good solid characters and plot ideas...


Agreed, and I too would like to see him drop the POV he used in Diary.

[MinionZombie]

So I think we're all in agreement:

1) No more POV please.
2) Solid strength in the script, tone back the politics a smidge.

Ideal ... ball's in GAR's court.

...

Obviously I'm still giddy as a GAR fan.

[clanglee]

Holy crap!!! We all agree on something!?!?! That is surely the first sign of the appocalypse.

[Bub666]

So I think we're all in agreement:

1) No more POV please.
2) Solid strength in the script, tone back the politics a smidge.

Ideal ... ball's in GAR's court.

...

Obviously I'm still giddy as a GAR fan.

Yeah,I agree 100%.

[clanglee]

Yeah,I agree 100%.

See. . even Bub agrees. . . and he never agrees on any.... . oh. . wait. . nevermind.


:D;)

[Doc]

Yeah sounds promising but, I won't give my hopes up.

[Bub666]

See. . even Bub agrees. . . and he never agrees on any.... . oh. . wait. . nevermind.


:D;)

:moon::D

[jim102016]

I'll see if it that hand-held camera bull**** is gone. I absolutely HATED that ****. Hopefully, it'll just be a regular movie. Best part of the first was watching that kid die

[clanglee]

:moon::D

Just playing with ya man :D;)

[Bub666]

Just playing with ya man :D;)

I know you are.:D:p

[Thorn]

Holy crap!!! We all agree on something!?!?! That is surely the first sign of the appocalypse.


ROFL...

*Thorn goes to the basement and starts gathering wood and nails to secure the doors and windows*

[DjfunkmasterG]

I still have a problem with the whole smart zombie angle, or at least the way Romero did in LOTD. Why do that? Zombies are scary enough as is, why **** it up?

[Mike70]

Holy crap!!! We all agree on something!?!?! That is surely the first sign of the appocalypse.

sure is. i think a guy on a pale horse holding a scythe just rode by my window.

[darth los]

I still have a problem with the whole smart zombie angle, or at least the way Romero did in LOTD. Why do that? Zombies are scary enough as is, why **** it up?

I totally agree with you.

Perhaps in his old age he's just flipping us all the bird and is just gonna do what he wants to do. So all three people that like the intelligent zombie angle should rejoice. I still think it's the wrong way to go though.


:cool:

[Neil]

I totally agree with you.

Perhaps in his old age he's just flipping us all the bird and is just gonna do what he wants to do. So all three people that like the intelligent zombie angle should rejoice. I still think it's the wrong way to go though.


:cool:

Bub (in Day) worked well... It's the framework/story that matters more...

[darth los]

Bub (in Day) worked well... It's the framework/story that matters more...


Another excellent observation. But, imo, it was because he was the exception and not the rule. I have no problem with ghouls like bub peppered throughout the zombie population. Just as there are humans capable of extraordinary things then it stands to reason that there would be ghouls like that as well.

However, the situation with LOTD and beyond is different. You could make the argument that big daddy is the only intelligent zombie but in reality the ghouls doing his bidding are exhibiting markedtly higher signs of intelligence than "traditional" GAR ghouls by even being ABLE to carry out orders. They therefore are all intelligent and fall short of the mindless external threat they have been in the past which was the vehichle for GAR to make his social commentary and explore the human condition so effectively.


With intelligent ghouls that's lost, imo.



:cool:

[Mikey]

I guess it's OK for Land, but not Diary.

[MinionZombie]

I guess it's OK for Land, but not Diary.
Kinda hard to talk about a movie we barely know anything about beyond that vague, cobbled-together crew trailer, and a couple of pictures - which have both already been discussed and bitched about to an equal degree.

When there's more info, guaranteed talk gets going again, but there's only so much that can be said about a few drips.

[archivesofthede]

Kinda hard to talk about a movie we barely know anything about beyond that vague, cobbled-together crew trailer, and a couple of pictures - which have both already been discussed and bitched about to an equal degree.

When there's more info, guaranteed talk gets going again, but there's only so much that can be said about a few drips.


I think that just shows how much we love his films and his work despite our minor disagreements.

[darth los]

IMO, a good zombie film would quiet everyone down. I think we all want to see GAR do well. It's just that some of us think that the intelligent zombie angle is not the best way he could have gone.




:cool:

[AcesandEights]

I guess it's OK for Land, but not Diary.

There's very little that has to do with Diary that is OK, as far as I'm concerned. :)

[darth los]

There's very little that has to do with Diary that is OK, as far as I'm concerned. :)

With all t's flaws, and there are many, i'd watch diary over land any day.

What? :shifty:


Land just doesn't FEEL like a GAr flim to me for whatever reason. Say what you want about it but diary does, imo.




:cool:

[MinionZombie]

With all t's flaws, and there are many, i'd watch diary over land any day.

What? :shifty:


Land just doesn't FEEL like a GAr flim to me for whatever reason. Say what you want about it but diary does, imo.




:cool:
Interesting you should say that, because if I was to make a similar claim, I'd vice-versa it. Land feels more GAR than Diary to me.

And I think Land rocks, despite the flaws that it has, because you know what - it's got a lot of pro's too ... ... Diary is far harder to defend. I've enjoyed it, and like a number of things about it ... but dude ... that's a tough sell, I've gotta be honest.

I've posted (and sticky-fied) a poll in Dead Discussion - Land VS Diary - be sure to vote.

[darth los]

Interesting you should say that, because if I was to make a similar claim, I'd vice-versa it. Land feels more GAR than Diary to me.

And I think Land rocks, despite the flaws that it has, because you know what - it's got a lot of pro's too ... ... Diary is far harder to defend. I've enjoyed it, and like a number of things about it ... but dude ... that's a tough sell, I've gotta be honest.

I've posted (and sticky-fied) a poll in Dead Discussion - Land VS Diary - be sure to vote.


That is funny. I just feel that land was too polished. It didn't have that gritty feel or look to it that the first 3 had. Day is he most "polished" of those and that even feels gritty and independently made. Land doesn't. IMO, that's the GAr style and it's when he does his best work.





:cool:

[Trin]

With all t's flaws, and there are many, i'd watch diary over land any day.

What? :shifty:

Land just doesn't FEEL like a GAr flim to me for whatever reason. Say what you want about it but diary does, imo.

:cool:Normally, darth, I'm right with you. But I gotta say that, despite its many flaws, I felt like Land was a GAR zombie movie. A bad one, but one nonetheless. The atmosphere and the zombies (how they moved and looked) and the characters all felt very GAR-like to me. It brought the claustrophobia and the infighting and the desperate situation reminiscent of GAR older Dead movies. I still hated it, mind you, but not because it didn't feel GAR enough.

Diary felt like something completely different to me. It had all the same plot and stupid character flaws as Land but without the atmosphere and without a core group of likeable characters. It was just bad. Part of whey I'm overall "meh" about Diary is that it just didn't feel enough like a GAR zombie movie for me to get worked up about it.