Son of a b*tch! 360 tv cable...

[bassman]

So I finally get some time to play my 360. Turn it on. Audio is there...but no video. I've check everything and it's not the TV and the 360 isn't giving a RROD or flashing or anything.

So I think the video(yellow) cord may be broken. Anyone else had any problems with this? I've found the cord for sell for only 13 bucks, but I don't want to buy it only to have it not be the problem.


Any input?

:mad::mad::mad:

[Skippy911sc]

unplug the yellow cable and see what happens...also make sure the hdtv switch is in the correct position.

[MinionZombie]

If you know someone else with an appropriate cable - try theirs - if you still have the problem, it's your Xbox360, and no doubt exactly the same problem I had in February.

On my TV I had no audio and no video, on a friend's telly with their brother's cable, I had sound but no picture.

Sent it off and nine days later had my box back with a new motherboard inside.

[SymphonicX]

If you're still using the S-video connections, dude...buy a HDTV...!!!!

[Cody]

my 360 has had so many problems. not ot mention it ate my dead rising game. we dont talk anymore.

[Tricky]

see thats what happens when ya buy bill gates side projects :p PS3 all the way!

[MinionZombie]

see thats what happens when ya buy bill gates side projects :p PS3 all the way!
If it wasn't for the quality control problem (and paying for online play), the 360 would be essentially perfect.

Otherwise it's just rockin', which is no bad thing...but I guarantee you the next Xbox will be a solid as a brick sh*thouse defended by nuclear missiles and British Bulldogs.

[MikePizzoff]

I guarantee you the next Xbox will be a solid as a brick sh*thouse defended by nuclear missiles and British Bulldogs.

You really shouldn't make that guarantee, unless you're prepared to shell out some cash out of your pocket. I get the feeling that Microsoft is going to figure since they got away with it this time around, why wouldn't they get away with it on the next system?

"Sh1t, man, we don't have to finish these things by the launch date. Remember how great the 360 sold (for years) and 2/3's of those things were paperweights, straight outta the factory!"

[MinionZombie]

The reason why the 360 has sold the units it has - is that yes, while it was the first on the block, it provides a wide and extensive range of titles to play on it and has a live and kicking online service (even if paying for it is lame).

Essentially, it's become the new PS2 in terms of popularity and spread. Reports of the 360 faults were confused and all over the place until the 'movement', if you will, caught on like wild fire and then that was that - one billion dollery-doo's and a sh*tty reputation for reliability.

I seriously doubt MS would just pump out utter sh*t next time, their silly rushing cost them just over one billion dollars. It'd be product suicide to do so. It'd be like the Labour Party here in the UK hoisting another unelected prime minister on us without an election - even though they're not legally required to do so, it'd be absolute political suicide, on top of their sheer unlikelihood to win in 2010.

[SymphonicX]

The reason why the 360 has sold the units it has - is that yes, while it was the first on the block, it provides a wide and extensive range of titles to play on it and has a live and kicking online service (even if paying for it is lame).

Essentially, it's become the new PS2 in terms of popularity and spread. Reports of the 360 faults were confused and all over the place until the 'movement', if you will, caught on like wild fire and then that was that - one billion dollery-doo's and a sh*tty reputation for reliability.

I seriously doubt MS would just pump out utter sh*t next time, their silly rushing cost them just over one billion dollars. It'd be product suicide to do so. It'd be like the Labour Party here in the UK hoisting another unelected prime minister on us without an election - even though they're not legally required to do so, it'd be absolute political suicide, on top of their sheer unlikelihood to win in 2010.


****, the next election is 2010....christ.

[CoinReturn]

Microsoft took a $1,000,000,000 hit replacing all the broken 360's. They can't afford (well, maybe they can) to make the same mistake again. I'm in total agreement Minion on this one.

If the PS3 actually had games I wanted to play, and an intriguing online infrastructure, I may have jumped ship a long time ago. But the 360 has consistently great games every month, and Xbox Live Arcade is a great way to enjoy small scale titles in between heavy hitters like Gears 2. In fact, Duke Nukem 3D is coming next Wednesday, with Mega Man 9 after that.

[MinionZombie]

Microsoft took a $1,000,000,000 hit replacing all the broken 360's. They can't afford (well, maybe they can) to make the same mistake again. I'm in total agreement Minion on this one.

If the PS3 actually had games I wanted to play, and an intriguing online infrastructure, I may have jumped ship a long time ago. But the 360 has consistently great games every month, and Xbox Live Arcade is a great way to enjoy small scale titles in between heavy hitters like Gears 2. In fact, Duke Nukem 3D is coming next Wednesday, with Mega Man 9 after that.
And in the end of the day, it's the titles that will sell consoles, not a bunch of fancy tech.

DVD was a natural step forward and it was the right time, but DVD has by no means run out of steam - so all this Blu-Ray nonsense is too early, as well as TOO EXPENSIVE, requiring you to have a fancy-ass new and expensive telly ... at the time of the "credit crunch" too.

PS should realise it's just not gonna happen with the PS3, in the end of the day, people wanna play GAMES on their GAMES CONSOLES, not walk around a virtual cinema and watch trailers, wiggle their joypads up and down like an idiot, play their collection of three Blu-Rays on their telly which doesn't benefit from HD tech, and occasionally put in the three titles they actually own to PLAY on.

MZ's predictions for the next-next-gen, aka the next-gen.

Ninty will seek more graphical grunt.
MS will build a brick sh*thouse that could take being lobbed off a skyscraper.
Sony will forget all this fancy gibberish and actually make a VIDEOGAMES CONSOLE.

[SymphonicX]

I think the tables will turn for Sony when the next gen arrives...it'll probably swing around and microsoft will release a clanger.

Sony lost 500billion on the ps3 even when it was at it's most expensive...that console is hemoraging money...at the same time the 360 is too, but it's backed up by a consisted revenue stream of good games.

There's just no arguing about which console is a) better, and b) more successful. The array of titles and awesomeness of the 360 far outweighs Sony's contribution to the market, it can't be denied. The sales, popularity and overall panache of that machine eclipses the ps3 like no other.

[Tricky]

To be fair i think both consoles have their merits,its a bit like back in the early 90's when the SNES & megadrive were both on the market,they were both good in their own right & both had their own exclusives as well as sharing a lot of titles.I ended up owning both consoles because i loved games on both of them (donkey kong country & mario world were prime reasons for me getting a snes too).
The PS3 is coming into its own now though i think,im starting to see the PS3 shelf in most games stores expanding!i know people who are on their 3rd or 4th xbox due to this red ring of death thing,that alone is enough to put me off buying one im afraid

[capncnut]

I think it's worth pointing out that me and a whole number of folks haven't experienced the red ring once from launch.

[Bub666]

I think it's worth pointing out that me and a whole number of folks haven't experienced the red ring once from launch.

Yeah,I haven't experienced the red ring either.Knock on wood.

[SymphonicX]

To be fair i think both consoles have their merits,its a bit like back in the early 90's when the SNES & megadrive were both on the market,they were both good in their own right & both had their own exclusives as well as sharing a lot of titles.I ended up owning both consoles because i loved games on both of them (donkey kong country & mario world were prime reasons for me getting a snes too).
The PS3 is coming into its own now though i think,im starting to see the PS3 shelf in most games stores expanding!i know people who are on their 3rd or 4th xbox due to this red ring of death thing,that alone is enough to put me off buying one im afraid

Difference between Snes and Megadrive & Ps3 and Xbox is that the Snes and megadrive both made money....ps3 isn't really doing anything....it's hardly even marketed...it's a dud, and this is coming from someone who owns both machines.

[MinionZombie]

Yeah,I haven't experienced the red ring either.Knock on wood.
I've not had Red Ring either ... although I did have a total image failure so it had to be fixed, but still.

The thing with the Red Ring though, is that those who have it - shout about it - and rightly so. But you never hear being shouting and raving about something working, because it's expected, and they're happy. :p

SNES and Mega Drive both had a wide range of titles though - PS3 has bugger all titles, and about two exclusives. A variety of titles that were Sony exclusives/firsts are now coming out on 360 at the same time - no doubt for two reasons:

1) PS3 isn't shifting.
2) The cost of development is so high that multi-platform (at least two platforms anyway) is more and more common.

You know what they could do with doing? Up the amount of cross-platform games that INCLUDE the PC, considering the fact that all these console games are made on PCs in the first place.

...

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, Mason (my Xbox360) hasn't Red Ringed ... but it has had to go in for repair once since I got it. :)/:( Fingers crossed I have no more problems with it!

Indeed.

[SymphonicX]

I've had one xbox360 red ring of death....it was about 3 years old and for about 8 months it was kept on a carpet which I attribute to the overheating. I got a replacement in about a month, and it was much much quieter which I really appreciated...it was like a hoover in the early days.

Anyway I traded all that in for an elite because I wanted the HDMI connection, and BOY am I glad I did!!!!

[Andy]

A variety of titles that were Sony exclusives/firsts are now coming out on 360 at the same time - no doubt for two reasons:

1) PS3 isn't shifting.
2) The cost of development is so high that multi-platform (at least two platforms anyway) is more and more common.



Maybe the case 12 months ago, but check your facts again MZ, the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 now :p

[capncnut]

Maybe the case 12 months ago, but check your facts again MZ, the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 now :p
Yup, but how many traded PS3's are there sitting on the shelves of GameStation gathering dust? :p

[SymphonicX]

Maybe the case 12 months ago, but check your facts again MZ, the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 now :p

the cynic in me attributes this to the release of MGS4....it won't last...:D haha

[MikePizzoff]

I've not had Red Ring either ... although I did have a total image failure so it had to be fixed, but still.

That's still a failed console... red ring or not, it should NOT happen.

I'm on my 3rd 360; the first two consoles failed so fast. One in like 4 months and the other in like 5. I've had this one for like 10 months now, though... so hopefully it won't die on me.

[CoinReturn]

Maybe the case 12 months ago, but check your facts again MZ, the PS3 is actually outselling the 360 now :p
While it's true that the PS3 has sold about 300k more than 360 this year, it's still 6 million units behind 360, and about 10 million units behind Wii.

Last month 360 sold about 10k more than PS3, and with the recent price drop to $199, I think it's fair to say that Microsoft has a more than fair chance of outselling PS3 this year. $199 has always been the sweet spot for the mass market, and during the last three months of the year is when most hardware is sold. I just don't see PS3 outperforming anybody when their console is still $400.

Add to that the fact that multiplatform software always sells more on 360 (GTA4 sold twice as much), and exclusive software on PS3 is extremely front-loaded (Metal Gear Solid 4 was the #1 selling game for June, and was out of the top 10 the next month), there just isn't much to be excited for with Sony's system. Just ask yourself this: this Fall, would you rather play LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2, or Fable 2, Gears of War 2, Command and Conquer Red Alert 3 and Left 4 Dead? (Man, that's a lot of sequels!)

[SymphonicX]

(Man, that's a lot of sequels!)


Gaming is the only entertainment medium where things generally improve with sequels, and spin offs...and the consumer loves it...

Funny when compared to movies, where every sequel is met with a *sigh* by movie-goers and spin offs and the like generally fall flat on their face after a few attempts.

Case in point: Final Fantasy 12 vs Freddy vs Jason....

haha

[bassman]

If you're still using the S-video connections, dude...buy a HDTV...!!!!

Maybe one day when they're a resonable price....

I broke down and bought a cord. In walmart of all places. I didn't think they had stuff like that. Works good now....so I guess somehow the yellow wire broke but the other three didn't?:rockbrow:

[MinionZombie]

Maybe one day when they're a resonable price....

I broke down and bought a cord. In walmart of all places. I didn't think they had stuff like that. Works good now....so I guess somehow the yellow wire broke but the other three didn't?:rockbrow:
Glad that solved your problem dude. :)

That said, I've had a bunch of cables break on me recently, or go wiggy thus rendering what they're attached to useless.

My laptop power lead went, my cool 5 button infrared mouse went ... possibly it was the left button instead, but who knows...and there's been other cables going wiggy ... damn cables...but I can't be doing with that wireless sh*te.

[acealive1]

its also worth noting that while the 360 has better textures and more realistic graphics, (best case is any wrestling game where the fabrics look real)

the game play is crappy and thats where sony wins. so i guess they both corner 50% of the market and lose the other half

[MinionZombie]

Surely gameplay is on a per-game basis?

[acealive1]

That's still a failed console... red ring or not, it should NOT happen.

I'm on my 3rd 360; the first two consoles failed so fast. One in like 4 months and the other in like 5. I've had this one for like 10 months now, though... so hopefully it won't die on me.


agreed, i've only seen one case of a ps3 dying


Surely gameplay is on a per-game basis?

not from what ive seen at all. i'd always look on in amazement at the 360 games and their very realistic textures and then when i look at the ps2 and 3 its like they're muted or even just made to look fake. but the gameplay is far superior there on sony sytems

[bassman]

That's still a failed console... red ring or not, it should NOT happen.

I'm on my 3rd 360; the first two consoles failed so fast. One in like 4 months and the other in like 5. I've had this one for like 10 months now, though... so hopefully it won't die on me.

You didn't buy the coverage? My warranty was only 40 bucks and it's good until 2010. I've had to send it in once and I got it back within one and a half weeks. Other than that and this minor cable problem, there's nothing to complain about. It's been worth it, imo.

[acealive1]

heres my comparison when im talking about the textures.


first one is the
metals and golds


booker t on ps2
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/bookerps2.jpg


booker t on 360

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/booker360.jpg



first one looks very toy like second one looks like they loaded the actual system with gold



next is the clothing


rey mysterio on ps2

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/reyps2.jpg


rey mysterio on 360

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/rey360.jpg

see how his pants are patent leather and shiny like they should be?

[Tricky]

Comparing the PS2 to the 360 is a bit unfair though as they are both from different generations.But compare the PS3 to the 360,as far as the graphics go the PS3 has the edge,not by vast amounts but there is a difference

[MikePizzoff]

the game play is crappy and thats where sony wins.

Huh?


Surely gameplay is on a per-game basis?

Exactly; maybe I'm wrong but I've always felt that if you play the same game on both systems and you'll find that they play, essentially, the same.

[MinionZombie]

Mke - damn straight, game play is per game, it's got next-to-nothing to do with the console itself, especially when comparing between PS3 and 360, it all comes down to people who make the games.

Bassman - aye, I got the extended cover. My fail was within 9 months, so it hasn't been required yet ... yet. I knew this time it'd be a good idea to get extended cover, as usually it's a waste of money, but with chit-chat online about breakages etc I figured it'd be a good idea.

Thus far I haven't needed my extended cover, and hopefully I won't need to - but if I do need it, it's there.

[MikePizzoff]

You didn't buy the coverage? My warranty was only 40 bucks and it's good until 2010. I've had to send it in once and I got it back within one and a half weeks. Other than that and this minor cable problem, there's nothing to complain about. It's been worth it, imo.

On my first 360, I bought it from EB Games, so I got their warranty. That one broke, I brought it back and exchanged it for a new one at which time they told me "Sorry, you can't renew your warranty... we no longer do that." So when that one broke, I was screwed and had to go to Best Buy to get one... but then I got a 3-year warranty for $40 (whereas EB's original ripoff warranty was like $50 and only covered a year).

[bassman]

On my first 360, I bought it from EB Games, so I got their warranty. That one broke, I brought it back and exchanged it for a new one at which time they told me "Sorry, you can't renew your warranty... we no longer do that." So when that one broke, I was screwed and had to go to Best Buy to get one... but then I got a 3-year warranty for $40 (whereas EB's original ripoff warranty was like $50 and only covered a year).

EB? What about Microsoft's warranty? Why didn't you go with that one?:confused:

[MikePizzoff]

EB? What about Microsoft's warranty? Why didn't you go with that one?:confused:

Because I didn't like the thought of having to pay Microsoft for a warranty and when my system broke I'd have to wait weeks for them to send me a new one (which half the time, I hear, isn't even really a new system - just a refurbished one) when I could pay EB or Best Buy the same amount of money and when my system breaks bring it to their store and they immediately hand me a new one in the box, sealed.

[CoinReturn]

Because I didn't like the thought of having to pay Microsoft for a warranty and when my system broke I'd have to wait weeks for them to send me a new one (which half the time, I hear, isn't even really a new system - just a refurbished one) when I could pay EB or Best Buy the same amount of money and when my system breaks bring it to their store and they immediately hand me a new one in the box, sealed.
You don't have to pay Microsoft anything. There is a free, 3-year warranty from the date of purchase if you get the RRoD.