New New Star Trek images...

[Neil]

...for some reason, these concern me... They make me fear the worse for some reason...

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Incredible-Star-Trek-Images-10541.html

[MoonSylver]

Yep, just saw those an hour or so ago...did nothing to reassure me...quite the opposite....:eek:

[MinionZombie]

As if Quinto couldn't draw any more attention to his brow. :lol:

You're just bothered about the dudes all lined up and the bridge set aintcha?

I'm not a Star Trek fan, so I'm not fussed, but apparently Kevin Smith has seen it and thinks it's great and that nobody should be worried about it. He also saw that Watchmen movie, and he sucked the chrome off that flick's trailer hitch in all.

[EvilNed]

I kinda like it, but it should be darker if you ask me. It's very light.

[Neil]

I kinda like it, but it should be darker if you ask me. It's very light.

Yeh... I think maybe that's one of the things bothering me!?

[EvilNed]

And the crew looks a bit tooo young. But I guess that's the whole deal with this film. But I do fear a "teenaged" film.

[Bub666]

And the crew looks a bit tooo young. But I guess that's the whole deal with this film. But I do fear a "teenaged" film.

Yeah,the crew looks way to young.This movie looks like it's going to be really awful.

[bassman]

I'm not a huge trek fan so I don't know about the pictures, but as Mz has siad, there have been rumblings that this movie is really good.

I like the picture of Bana as the bad guy. Looks like a badass. Can't wait to see the way he plays it.

[AcesandEights]

And the crew looks a bit tooo young. But I guess that's the whole deal with this film. But I do fear a "teenaged" film.

Yeah, first thing I thought was that it's a bit 90210ish :shifty:

With regards to Spock looking a bit angry, he may be letting slip some ire in an extremely emotional scene...because he's part human? Or because the actor was subconsciously falling back into his Sylar mode on some level. Maybe he's about to zip that dude's brain pan open!? :eek:

[DawnGirl27]

It does look a bit slick, and as Aces said, 'a little 90210ish' - just what I was thinking. I hope the murmurs that it will be good are true, however...

[Rottedfreak]

What the **** has happened to Trek. It's ****in Teen Trek!
Same thing with the next Stargate series, sounds like Teengate, which they parodied in their two hundredeth SG1 episode.

[axlish]

Interesting. I'll at least give it a chance. Pegg looks pretty good as Scotty, and whoever that is as Kirk looks good too. I wonder if he'll ham it up like Shatner :) It is a bit clean but I like the look, it strays from the other latter day Trek series, which is a good thing.

[Danny]

Interesting. I'll at least give it a chance. Pegg looks pretty good as Scotty, and whoever that is as Kirk looks good too. I wonder if he'll ham it up like Shatner :) It is a bit clean but I like the look, it strays from the other latter day Trek series, which is a good thing.

actually i think he looks more like the guy before kirk form the pilot.

[darth los]

actually i think he looks more like the guy before kirk form the pilot.

I believe his name is Christopher Pike.



:cool:

[Publius]

Yeah,the crew looks way to young.This movie looks like it's going to be really awful.

It's like the bloody Muppet Babies version of Star Trek. What a joke.

[clanglee]

I can buy pretty much every character except Kirk. A metrosexual Kirk?!?!?

[AcesandEights]

A metrosexual Kirk?!?!?

Dude, did you see that foundation and eyeliner Kirk wore in the TV episodes? :p

[clanglee]

Dude, did you see that foundation and eyeliner Kirk wore in the TV episodes? :p

Good point. . but he was so. . . butch!!;)

[SRP76]

Good point. . but he was so. . . butch!!;)

This Kirk looks like a square-headed pussy. At least Shatner looked like he might be in charge of something.

And I think we all knew the new movie was going to wipe its ass with the established series and movies, so there's no need to really hammer any inconsistencies (like Chekov being about 15 years older than he should be).

[clanglee]

This Kirk looks like a square-headed pussy. At least Shatner looked like he might be in charge of something.

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Exactly what I am driving at. He doesn't exactly have a mature "leadershippy" thing going on. He looks like he stepped off the set of dawson's creek.

[MaximusIncredulous]

Oh God. I'm gonna be sick. Looks like something that would rear its ugly head on the CW11.

[Bub666]

I can buy pretty much every character except Kirk. A metrosexual Kirk?!?!?

Yeah the new Kirk looks like a wimp.

[DubiousComforts]

It looks like classic Star Trek had a head-on collision with Thunderbirds and there were no survivors.

[Eyebiter]

This remake just smacks of lack of vision. They are making the same mistake the 'Enterprise' TV made a few years ago - trying to retcon established Star Trek canon. Instead of trying to redesign or reimage what has already been done, make an exact copy of the original series bridge set and uniforms. It has already been done twice (Scotty TNG episode and the In the Mirror Darkly Enterprise episodes). Instead of the USS Enterprise why not the adventures of a different Constitution class heavy cruiser operating in the same time period? Perhaps a mention of Kirk in a Starfleet communication as a nod to TOS. But a remake of the original TV series with a bunch of kids? Looks like one of those fanfic films ala the New Voyages.

[bassman]

It's amazing how fast people snap just by seeing a few images. I know you guys are fans and want to see the best film possible, but come on man. It might work really well within the film. You guys are getting too worked up about the appearance of the characters after only seeing a few images.

As I said in the thread about Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes film - wait until you see how it works as a whole. There have been other franchise fanbases that have complained about the look of a character only to have themselves insert their foot into their mouths once they saw the character on screen.

Remember Craignotbond.com from the Pre-Casino Royale "Bond. Not Blonde!" days? Or "Gay Cowboy" Heath Ledger looking like a hobo with makeup and there was no way he could play the Joker?

At the levery least wait for a trailer. Fans will be fans, but TRY to give it some kind of chance...

[clanglee]

How Dare you try to bring reason to the table Bass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:



;)


I still think this new Kirk looks like James Vanderbeek after a session with the Queer Eye group.

[MoonSylver]

This remake just smacks of lack of vision. They are making the same mistake the 'Enterprise' TV made a few years ago - trying to retcon established Star Trek canon. Instead of trying to redesign or reimage what has already been done, make an exact copy of the original series bridge set and uniforms. It has already been done twice (Scotty TNG episode and the In the Mirror Darkly Enterprise episodes). Instead of the USS Enterprise why not the adventures of a different Constitution class heavy cruiser operating in the same time period? Perhaps a mention of Kirk in a Starfleet communication as a nod to TOS. But a remake of the original TV series with a bunch of kids? Looks like one of those fanfic films ala the New Voyages.

Bingo. That was my thought: "Enterprise Pt.2". We saw how well that turned out...:rolleyes:


It's amazing how fast people snap just by seeing a few images. I know you guys are fans and want to see the best film possible, but come on man. It might work really well within the film. You guys are getting too worked up about the appearance of the characters after only seeing a few images.

As I said in the thread about Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes film - wait until you see how it works as a whole. There have been other franchise fanbases that have complained about the look of a character only to have themselves insert their foot into their mouths once they saw the character on screen.

Remember Craignotbond.com from the Pre-Casino Royale "Bond. Not Blonde!" days? Or "Gay Cowboy" Heath Ledger looking like a hobo with makeup and there was no way he could play the Joker?

At the levery least wait for a trailer. Fans will be fans, but TRY to give it some kind of chance...

All good points. I will still MAYBE (probably?) see it. These are just the initial reactions. I think it's fine to have an initial reaction as long as you're not set in stone base JUST off of that initial reaction alone. Nice thing about opinions is they can change (well, sometimes....):D

[DawnGirl27]

I read in our local paper this morning that Leonard Nimoy is going to don the pointy ears once again to play an elder Vulcan....

[lullubelle]

And the crew looks a bit tooo young. But I guess that's the whole deal with this film. But I do fear a "teenaged" film.

i have to agrre with you there, even though I love Star Trek, this crew looks way to young, but like I may watch to check out Eric Bana :D

[QUOTE=clanglee;163450]I can buy pretty much every character except Kirk. A metrosexual Kirk?!?!?[/QUOTE

Ouch, looked at the pictures again to understand your point, damn your right, yikes:elol:

[sandrock74]

Before I start to rant, just a warning...I'm a big Trek fan, so if your not, you might have trouble keeping up.

OK, whats with all this crap going back into Treks past? First the tv show Enterprise and now this movie? There is NO WAY that they won't contradict themselves from already established history given. It always happens. Look no further than Enterprise.

Why not meerly continue the storyline from the TNG/DS9/Voyager timeline? The conclusion of the Dominion War (from DS9) left the Alpha and part of the Beta Quadrants in ruins. The Cardassian Union was wiped off the map, The Klingon, Romulan and Federation forces suffered immense loses in ships and personel and the Breen were revealed to be much tougher than we (the viewers) had ever been led to believe.

All the major super powers would need time to rebuild and you know maps of everyones power base would be readjusted (as ALWAYS happens after war). In an emergency, there wouldn't always be enough ships and crews to throw at a situation (as was mentioned at the conclusion of Voyager and in Star Trek: Nemesis).

This post Dominion War era is just full of STORYLINE POTENTIAL. A whole new ship and crew could be assembled for a movie with this backdrop. You would even be able to have a cameo by a well known character or use a character from one of the shows as a member of this new proposed crew. I feel like the producers of the Star Trek franchise just basically gave up. Once the Dominion War storyline was concluded, they just finished up Voyager, squeezed out a movie and just...gave...up.

They immediately went into the past to show us the early days of earths space exploration. The foundation of the Federation. Funny thing was, no fans had asked to see this era. This was the producers just giving up.

Now it looks like JJ Abrams is just going on along with this stories set in the past nonsense. Kirk didn't even take Command of the Enterprise until he was 35 I believe (which is older than me) but this new kid playing Kirk is clearly younger than I am. Chekov cannot be in the movie, as he may not have even been in the academy at this point, much less a Starfleet Officer. Starfleet had no run ins with the Romulans in this era. The Enterprise was not a new ship when Kirk took command, it had already been under Captain Pikes command for a decade.

I just know some or all of these things will be contradicted. :mad: I know it's probably just me but this all annoys me. :annoyed:

[willmize]

It's JJ Abrams, so I'm going to give it a very cautious thumbs up.
So far.

[Neil]

Now it looks like JJ Abrams is just going on along with this stories set in the past nonsense. Kirk didn't even take Command of the Enterprise until he was 35 I believe (which is older than me) but this new kid playing Kirk is clearly younger than I am. Chekov cannot be in the movie, as he may not have even been in the academy at this point, much less a Starfleet Officer. Starfleet had no run ins with the Romulans in this era. The Enterprise was not a new ship when Kirk took command, it had already been under Captain Pikes command for a decade.

I just know some or all of these things will be contradicted. :mad: I know it's probably just me but this all annoys me. :annoyed:

But this is a 'reboot' - It's a fresh start with no hard and fast basis on anything previously done...

Think 'Battlestar Galactica' where they kicked a lot of it around, completely in the face of the original.

[Rottedfreak]

Star Trek Enterprise AKA: how to destroy a franchise.
Trek con 2001
Braga: "Lets hit a century fans want to see!"
fans: "Alright!"
Braga: "Lets have a temporal cold war explain the resurgance of races and technology from the TNG era."
fans: "Booo! you suck Braga! do something new!"
Braga: "They love me!"
fans: "There something wrong with the acoustics in here?"

Trek con 2003
Braga: "I realised I made a few mistakes with the temporal cold war arc but hope to have this Xindi arc will make amends."
Fans: "Does this mean your ditching the TWC arc? if so where was it headed and who was future guy?"
Braga: "eh? how the hell should I know? I didnt plan it out, anyway this xindi arc will feature a multiple species who worship and serve a powerful xenophobic race and the Enterprise stands between them and the destruction of Earth."
Fans: "This sounds an awful lot like Deep Space Nine."
Braga: "Deep Space what? I'm sorry I dont even watch Trek, but anyway I got the idea from some scripts of a previous series I found in the vaults."

Sticking it to the fans.
presenter: "So why do you think Star Trek Nemesis failed?"
actor/producer: "I blame the fans, totally their fault, we made the best Trek film with no plot holes and good entertainment and they ditched us. how dare they!

[Mike70]

but as Mz has siad, there have been rumblings that this movie is really good.

I like the picture of Bana as the bad guy. Looks like a badass. Can't wait to see the way he plays it.

i have been a star trek fan since i was a little kid and i really dig the pics. unfortunately, a huge number of star trek fans are purist dickheads who ought to be shot into space themselves. i've said this before and i'll say it again, i love star trek but CANNOT stand most star trek fans.

i really grow weary of all the crying about timelines and technical manuals and all that other bullshiv. this flick has been billed as a reboot of the franchise. i doubt that most of the people who fancy themselves "true" fans of trek (another thing i have a huge problem with - just what the hell is a true fan) can let that sink into their heads. all former bets are off. this is a brand new take on the classic trek.

on another note: i've thought for quite sometime that the place to take the trek franchise is to go far into the future, say 1,500 or 2,000 years. show what has become of the federation and the alpha and beta quadrants. that'd be damn interesting and would put it outside of the fu*kstick geeks and their manuals.

rant at an end.:rant:



Now it looks like JJ Abrams is just going on along with this stories set in the past nonsense. Kirk didn't even take Command of the Enterprise until he was 35 I believe (which is older than me) but this new kid playing Kirk is clearly younger than I am. Chekov cannot be in the movie, as he may not have even been in the academy at this point, much less a Starfleet Officer. Starfleet had no run ins with the Romulans in this era. The Enterprise was not a new ship when Kirk took command, it had already been under Captain Pikes command for a decade.

I just know some or all of these things will be contradicted. :mad: I know it's probably just me but this all annoys me. :annoyed:

i am about to reveal the true depths of my geekry here:

kirk was 31 when he became captain in 2264.

the enterprise was launched in 2245 and was first commanded by robert april. pike was the second captain in the 2250's and 60s.

there were contacts with the romulans prior to this. the romulan war from 2156 to 2160, fought between the romulans on one side and earth, andoria, tellar and vulcan on the other. there just wasn't any face to face contact between the races.




but as neil said, this a reboot. nothing that went before applies.

[sandrock74]

I never cared for reboots. Just create something brand new instead of raping the past.

[bassman]

I never cared for reboots. Just create something brand new instead of raping the past.

Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible compared to Batman & Robin. As was Casino Royale compared to Die Another Day.:p

[SRP76]

Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible compared to Batman & Robin. As was Casino Royale compared to Die Another Day.:p

Batman Begins was stupid as f*ck when compared to Year One, the actual canon start of Batman. If you've read Batman comics since the mid-1980s, the new movie made about as much sense as a football bat. And that is why many people don't like reboots. It's not broken, so let's fix it anyway. No, thanks.

[bassman]

Batman Begins was stupid as f*ck when compared to Year One, the actual canon start of Batman. If you've read Batman comics since the mid-1980s, the new movie made about as much sense as a football bat. And that is why many people don't like reboots. It's not broken, so let's fix it anyway. No, thanks.

Year One is just one story(and too 'Frank Miller' at that - Selina Kyle as a prostitute??). It doesn't make it the definitive origin. Besides....I wasn't comparing Begins to one or all of the comics it drew inspiration from anyway. I was comparing it to the film that came before it. If you enjoyed B&R more than BB, you should have your head examined.:lol:

[EvilNed]

I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.

[Mike70]

I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.


i've said it before and i'll say it again: i'd love to see a star trek story that takes place in the far, far future - say 1,500 or 2,000 years after the events in voyager. it would place it outside of known timelines, so the canon geeks could relax and it would be damned interesting to see what form the federation is in way down the road.

[sandrock74]

I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.

I've finally found someone on the internet who agrees with me! :stunned:
By the way, Batman Begins was alright. Not great, just alright. Better than Batman and Robin? Certainly.
The Dark Knight? Way too long and far too depressing. I preferred Iron Man MUCH more. I would be curious to see how TDK would have done if Heath Ledger was still alive...