Take a look at this signed Dawn script

[Trancelikestate]

hey guys, back again. so someone bought me this romero signed dawn script on e-bay. it looks good, and genuine, but i dunno, somethin about it makes me suspicious. it looks like real sharpie but i wanted your opinions. heres a couple quick shots. the sig doesn't look like it's printed, but u never know these days i guess. anyways, whatcha think?


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4997/cid110308015000ul3.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4251/cid110308014900ci7.jpg

[Bub666]

That looks like a fake to me.

[horrormad]

Yes Romero always puts Stay Scared with his signature.

[Trancelikestate]

yeah, something about it didn't look right to me either. anyone else wanna comment?

[Cody]

thats also not the way he signs my name

[bassman]

I'm not sure about the signature, but what's up with the Dawn04 font?:stunned:

[Trancelikestate]

I'm not sure about the signature, but what's up with the Dawn04 font?:stunned:

what exactly are u refering to? the text?

[bassman]

what exactly are u refering to? the text?

The title Dawn of the Dead. It's the same as one of the posters for Dawn04.

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/d/images/dawn-of-the-dead-poster-0.jpg

Just a little thing that I noticed...

[Trancelikestate]

ah, so it is. man thats lame! hahaha. i think i'll def chalk this one up as a fake.

[Cody]

damn bassman your a true romero fan, never would I have even noticed that

[Philly_SWAT]

Here is a Romero autograph that I have which I personally witnessed him sign. Yours appears similar, but there are some small differences. Also as noted by horromad, every autograph I have ever seen by him does say "stay scared". Look at my pic and judge for yourself.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l150/Philly_SWAT/garauto.jpg

[DeadJonas190]

I'm not sure about the signature, but what's up with the Dawn04 font?:stunned:

Not only that but the date is wrong, Dawn came out in 78 not 79.

[Mike70]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4997/cid110308015000ul3.jpg


let's compare with a known sig of romero's.



http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l150/Philly_SWAT/garauto.jpg

mucking about with handwriting is one of my hobbies and while i don't pretend to be an "expert" by any means, there are certain features of the signature on trance's script that are similar to philly's.

the G, A and O are similar. they all 3 have a pretty distinctive sweep (or overhang) beyond where the letter should end (or start). it is the R and the E that don't really match up well to the known signature. the G also has a very large bottom loop in both BUT the G in the known sig has a stop in it, where romero stopped his stroke and started to write again. this stop is missing from trance's. the A is a bit different in trance's - it has a very straight down stroke going into the R (which is nothing like the R in philly's known sig) instead of the curved down stroke that philly's has. the other thing that bothers me about the A is that it has the same curving down stroke in the word "stay" and the word "scared" in philly's. that probably means that that curved downstroke from A into another letter is a very distinctive feature of romero's handwriting. the rest of the letters in "romero" after R all have a very curving bottom to them in the known signature, in trance's they are written in more straight fashion. they have a pretty pronounced downstroke to them instead of the soft curves from one letter to another that the known signature has.

i think that the sig on trance's is a rather decent fake. though i will say that it is too bad there isn't a T or D on trance's script, not only are those the two most distinctive letters as handwriting goes, they are also the hardest ones to fake because they have, by far, the most interpretations from person to person.

[krakenslayer]

The script itself is clearly a home-made mock-up done at home by someone who's downloaded the script off script-o-rama - the real, original copy of the shooting script wouldn't say "Written and Directed by George A. Romero, 1979" (wrong year) and would not have fancy graphics on the front page (particularly not in the era before widespead, cheap access to colour printers) - but that doesn't mean he definitely didn't get it signed by George after he put it together...

Still, though, I agree with the above poster: a well done fake signature.

[Eagle Eye]

In my opinion the signature is a fake, It looks nothing like Romero's signature and doesnt Romero always sign Stay Scared?

[Trancelikestate]

yeah, well i've pretty much chalked this up as not real. althoughit was a gift, and i did not have to pay for it, i still feel bad for my friend. she was kinda dooped haha.

[Neil]

The script itself is clearly a home-made mock-up done at home by someone who's downloaded the script off script-o-rama

OI! OI! OI!!!!! The digital script was on HPotD first of all! I typed the sucker in!!!!

+ I made a couple of corrections/changes so I could soon prove if it's the HPotD copy. I suspect anyone else out there proclaiming to have a copy has 'borrowed' it from here.

ps: Same goes with the Day of the Dead (original) script!

pps: If you look at the script-o-rama version you'll see it has www.homepageofthedead.com in it :)

[AcesandEights]

OI! OI! OI!!!!! The digital script was on HPotD first of all! I typed the sucker in!!!!

+ I made a couple of corrections/changes so I could soon prove if it's the HPotD copy. I suspect anyone else out there proclaiming to have a copy has 'borrowed' it from here.

ps: Same goes with the Day of the Dead (original) script!

pps: If you look at the script-o-rama version you'll see it has www.homepageofthedead.com in it :)

Everything marked, everything membered, Neil! Very nice :)

[Cody]

Damn Neil that must of taken you a good minute

[Yojimbo]

A friend of mine who went to Carnegie Mellon and grew up in Pittsburgh is a diehard fan of Romero and DOTD (this is a dude who puts most to shame with his knowledge and collection of memorabillia) made a photocopy of the original shooting script for DOTD for me. It had numerous spelling errors, had obviously been typed, and the circle around the "C" for the copyright notice on the front page had been handwritten with what looked like a black pen. Since this dude was a rabid fan and collector, and had gotten the script from a professor at CM who was a personal friend of GAR and had received his copy while the shoot was still in progress directly from GAR, I am certain that it was the real deal, albeit photocopied.

I still have this at home somewhere in one of the many shipping boxes that remain unpacked since my last move, and will dig it out to be sure, but from what I remember about the appearance of my copy which looks nothing like the ebay purchased script in the photo, I am sorry to say that my guess is that this ebay script is completely bogus.

[Cody]

Damn now thats an original script

[Yojimbo]

let's compare with a known sig of romero's.



mucking about with handwriting is one of my hobbies and while i don't pretend to be an "expert" by any means, there are certain features of the signature on trance's script that are similar to philly's.

the G, A and O are similar. they all 3 have a pretty distinctive sweep (or overhang) beyond where the letter should end (or start). it is the R and the E that don't really match up well to the known signature. the G also has a very large bottom loop in both BUT the G in the known sig has a stop in it, where romero stopped his stroke and started to write again. this stop is missing from trance's. the A is a bit different in trance's - it has a very straight down stroke going into the R (which is nothing like the R in philly's known sig) instead of the curved down stroke that philly's has. the other thing that bothers me about the A is that it has the same curving down stroke in the word "stay" and the word "scared" in philly's. that probably means that that curved downstroke from A into another letter is a very distinctive feature of romero's handwriting. the rest of the letters in "romero" after R all have a very curving bottom to them in the known signature, in trance's they are written in more straight fashion. they have a pretty pronounced downstroke to them instead of the soft curves from one letter to another that the known signature has.

i think that the sig on trance's is a rather decent fake. though i will say that it is too bad there isn't a T or D on trance's script, not only are those the two most distinctive letters as handwriting goes, they are also the hardest ones to fake because they have, by far, the most interpretations from person to person.
Dude, you are either a Crim-Justice student, or have studied this subject pretty extensively on your own because no layman would know to interpret documents like that. Cheers brother, I am impressed.

[Mike70]

Dude, you are either a Crim-Justice student, or have studied this subject pretty extensively on your own because no layman would know to interpret documents like that. Cheers brother, I am impressed.

like i said, it is a crazy hobby of mine. i am actually considering getting certified as a document examiner. i'm middle aged, it's time for a career change anyway.

[DjfunkmasterG]

like i said, it is a crazy hobby of mine. i am actually considering getting certified as a document examiner. i'm middle aged, it's time for a career change anyway.


If you consider 33 to be middle aged, than I must be damn near extinction at 38. :lol:

[capncnut]

If you consider 33 to be middle aged, than I must be damn near extinction at 38. :lol:
I think you'll find that's his buddy list number, old bean. :D

[Yojimbo]

If you consider 33 to be middle aged, than I must be damn near extinction at 38. :lol:

No way, dudes. My lifeclock's been flashing red and I've been running from the Sandman for over a decade now.

Tell me how you feel when you hit 40 and you realize that all those lame ass guys on that putrid "Viva Viagra" commerical are all about your age. :skull:

[Mike70]

If you consider 33 to be middle aged, than I must be damn near extinction at 38. :lol:

i'm 38 as well, DJ and yeah, i consider that to be early middle age.