Underwater zombies!?

[krakenslayer]

I was just looking at the listed credits for this movie on IMDB and amongst the names listed is one Robert C. Shannon, who is credited as the film's "dive supervisor" and also as the "water safety" guy. Now unless there is going to be some significant underwater shooting going on, I can't think of any other reason why there would be a "dive supervisor", which, combined with the island setting, leads me to the wildly speculative conclusion that we are actually going to see some submarine zombie action.

Thoughts?

[AcesandEights]

When I was young we didn't have flying zombies or submariner zombies, neither :rant:

Damn kids today with your rock and roll music :D

[ProfessorChaos]

i like the way that underwater zombies were used and explained in the world war z book, but when big daddy and his formation of ghouls popped across the river unaffected by the current, it really seemed pretty lame.

as long as they make it believable (or as believable as possible with the dead returning to life), i think it'd be a cool concept.

pretty fancy detective work on your part, kraken.:cool:

[Andy]

When I was young we didn't have flying zombies or submariner zombies, neither :rant:

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/fulci13.jpg

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[AcesandEights]

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/fulci13.jpg

coughfulcicough

I thought of Fulci but discounted that crapass scene :)

[clanglee]

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/fulci13.jpg

coughfulcicough

Yeah, I was gonna point that out!!

[AcesandEights]

Zombie vs. Shark is whack...I rest my case.

[ProfessorChaos]

but what about zombies vs. the little mermaid? that would be pretty entertaining.:evil:

[clanglee]

"Shalalalala my oh my!! She don't wan't to die!! They gonna eat the girl!!"

[ProfessorChaos]

"Shalalalala my oh my!! She don't wan't to die!! They gonna eat the girl!!"

that's awesome!!!

[krakenslayer]

I think underwater zombies are fine if the context is right. While the zombie-vs-shark scene in Zombie Flesh Eaters was weirdly cool in the twisted and stylized logic of that movie, it certainly would not fit in well in a more gritty and "realistic" setting like those Romero creates for his zombie movies. That said, the water-walking zombies in Land didn't push credibility too far; it was impressively shot and well pulled-off. I have a hunch he's going to go for something similar here, but this time go that step further and actually show them lurching/crawling/scrambling across the sea bed (note: the script for Land originally had a scene just like this but it was cut from the final movie either due to budget limitations or the fact that Pirates of the Carribean did something similar that year). As far as I'm concerned that would be cool. Or even cooler if someone happened to be swimming in the sea and encounter something hungry floating just below the surface...

Actually, he should have done that in Diary. He should have had Ridley push Debra into the swimming pool and the zombies should have eaten her legs off. That would have been awesome. That movie needed some more zombie action like that.

[blind2d]

Ridley was too whacked out at that point to do anything murderous. Loved z vs s in zfe. reminded me of jackie chan's first strike (his best, imo). too many half-assed abbreviations? sue my lawyer!

[krakenslayer]

Ridley was too whacked out at that point to do anything murderous. Loved z vs s in zfe. reminded me of jackie chan's first strike (his best, imo). too many half-assed abbreviations? sue my lawyer!

I was thinking more along the lines of:

Debra: Ridley, your arm...!
Ridley: Oh... that... what do you know? Something must have bit me! *maniacal laughter*
Debra: Let me see.
Ridley: (pulls away) It's nothing!
Debra tries to grab his arm. Ridley struggles with her.
Ridley: Leave me alone.
He tries to push her away. She slips and falls in the pool. Hilarity ensues.

[MoonSylver]

Zombie vs. Shark is whack...I rest my case.

hehehe..."whack"...:D

http://www.abnormalstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/yo-mtvs-wack-tee.jpg

[EvilNed]

Yeah, the zombie vs. shark scenes is one of the coolest zombie scenes ever, if you ask me. I like seeing zombies doing stuff we aren't used to them doing... And it's not everyday you get to see zombies facing off against a shark. Also, the Land of the Dead scene was equally great. That shot of those zombies crossing the river, with Big Daddys head popping up first, is just beautiful.

[SRP76]

I don't see the fascination with the superzombie fad. It's not necessary at all.

All a zombie needs to do is bite people and get shot. That's it. Works just fine. I don't need to see a bunch of useless, elaborate crap to be entertained.

[krakenslayer]

I don't see the fascination with the superzombie fad. It's not necessary at all.

All a zombie needs to do is bite people and get shot. That's it. Works just fine. I don't need to see a bunch of useless, elaborate crap to be entertained.

I understand the furore over running zombies and thinking zombies, but I don't see how showing zombies travelling and surviving under the surface of the water is that much of a stretch. They don't have to breathe, so it's just a natural extension of the original concept - it's not giving them a "new power", it's not some contrived set-up, it's just putting them in an unfamiliar but perfectly logical situation.

[EvilNed]

I don't see the fascination with the superzombie fad. It's not necessary at all.

All a zombie needs to do is bite people and get shot. That's it. Works just fine. I don't need to see a bunch of useless, elaborate crap to be entertained.

Yes. I agree. Creativity bad! Formulatic good!!!

[SRP76]

Yes. I agree. Creativity bad! Formulatic good!!!

So I guess you thought Jaws: The Revenge was great, since we get to drop the shark into the Caribbean just for something different.

Adding things for the sake of adding them is stupid. That's why people won't continue to watch. Or, in the case of the Day of the Dead remake, they watch only to see how crappy it will be, and to make fun of it.

[EvilNed]

So I guess you thought Jaws: The Revenge was great, since we get to drop the shark into the Caribbean just for something different.

Uhm, I don't know if you've actually seen Jaws 4, but it wasn't the Caribbean part that was awful... It was the script. And... Everything else.

Do you know what movie and musics main strength is, and what differs hailed movies from berated ones? Change and surprise. It's not about "adding things for the sake of adding", as you might think, but rather cleverness and an understanding of how movies and scripts work. Give people something they haven't seen before, and they will be intrigued. Give them something they've seen dozens of times before, they'll eventually tire of it.

[MoonSylver]

So I guess you thought Jaws: The Revenge was great, since we get to drop the shark into the Caribbean just for something different.

Adding things for the sake of adding them is stupid. That's why people won't continue to watch. Or, in the case of the Day of the Dead remake, they watch only to see how crappy it will be, and to make fun of it.

In some cases though, it's not adding for the sake of adding, but more taking something familiar (the zombie) & putting it in a situation we haven't seen before.

How many time have we on here imagined up various scenarios we haven't seen like "what would they do in the winter?" etc.

I'm seeing this in that vein.

[Trin]

...but when big daddy and his formation of ghouls popped across the river unaffected by the current, it really seemed pretty lame. Speak the word brother. Lamest of the lame. And the whole scene was predicated on the idea that the zombies never *tried* to cross the river. I always figured they knew the river was a safe boundary because zombies would walk blindly into the river and get swept away. Oh, well, stagnant water under the proverbial zombie-infested drawbridge.

@clanglee - Back to Bubba Elvis. Awesome. I've missed you!!

[Thorn]

Zombie vs. Shark is whack...I rest my case.


Agreed, hated the scene. Hated the thought of it in a Romero film even more.

[Philly_SWAT]

Agreed, hated the scene. Hated the thought of it in a Romero film even more.

I didnt think that seen was too bad. A zombie should be able to be underwater. A shark would attack anything that moved. So it didnt bother me.

[capncnut]

Yeah, the zombie vs. shark scenes is one of the coolest zombie scenes ever, if you ask me.
I agree. I thought it was quite spooky when he popped out of the weeds.

[MinionZombie]

I agree. I thought it was quite spooky when he popped out of the weeds.
I thought that scene was proper messed up - in a good way - because ultimately, that's a real guy who needs to breathe air - fighting a goddamned shark - that's pretty impressive! :eek:

It's also quite cool, because it shows off that zombies don't need to breathe. Besides, in Land of the Dead the zombies walked across the river bed - we just didn't see it because Pirates of the Carribean did the whole 'undead march across the water bed' thing.

[Thorn]

I am cool with them being underwater, not needing to breathe, marching on the ground even if currents and weights allow... but zombies vs sharks in grudge matches to the death are kind of lame. It is not what I look for personally in my zombie films.

[Philly_SWAT]

I am cool with them being underwater, not needing to breathe, marching on the ground even if currents and weights allow... but zombies vs sharks in grudge matches to the death are kind of lame. It is not what I look for personally in my zombie films.

Well, to clarify my earlier comments where I said that I "didnt have a problem with it"...

As you say, I did not have a problem with them being underwater, not needing to breathe, etc. And I thought it was a cool scene. Especially taking into account that it wasnt a GAR movie, so it wasnt part of the "good zombie movies" that I enjoy so much. I would expect more out of a GAR flick. In actuality, a shark would rip a zombie apart almost immediately. It was an interesting scene to see, but not a scene I would expect in a quality zombie movie, of which by my own personal definition I mean a GAR movie.

[bassman]

The underwater thing is cool with me. All this talk about the current in Land, but if I remember correctly that river was perfectly calm....

As for the new film.....we know from the photos that there is a ferry, so maybe they had to have a supervisor on the boat for insurance reasons? I dunno.....

Where's a fucking trailer anyway?:mad: