Zombie Hypothetical: New Commers

[Thorn]

This is hard for me.

In a recent post i was trying to think of all the things that would be hard for me to do, or not do as a survivor in the zombie world post apocalypse.

I have a solid plan and I am sure some of you nay way have read it, I have posted it on at least two versions of these forums though I can not seem to locate it now.

Essentially it involves building "up" ultimately, and in the short term fortifying a local structure that is nearly perfect for the job.

I have considered water supply, self sustaining food growth, live stock, foraging,security, and defense.

Here is the hypothetical...

You are in your "sanctuary". Someone (A young girl for the sake of the story) approaches begging for your help. You have very strict rules based on rations due to a poor harvest, mold, whatever and those in charge (say voting council) has decided no new members are to be allowed in. That you are at capacity.

In the distance yo see the shapes of the dead coming through the mist towards the girl and where you would be able to "haul them up" to safety using a wench system.

What do you do?


1- Walk away leaving them to their own devices?

2- Explain to them that you can not allow them to enter and to run?

3- Save her bringing them into the sanctuary knowing it might mean your being punished?

4- Put her out of her misery?

5- Take her place on the ground after bringing her to safety?

6- Another option not listed here?

(Again meant to be fun not over analyzed to death)

[blind2d]

I choose 5... I'm a sucker for pretty young birds...

[sandrock74]

Probably number 4. If I were going to be eaten, I'd want someone to put me out of my misery.

[SRP76]

Someone (A young girl for the sake of the story) approaches begging for your help...

..."haul them up" to safety using a wench system.



:lol: Best unintentional joke in HPOTD history.

[krakenslayer]

:lol: Best unintentional joke in HPOTD history.

I was thinking that... classic Freudian slip there! :lol:

I'd let her in until the zombie threat had moved on, and then if the powers that be decided to kick her out once it was safe to be outside, then so be it.

[SRP76]

Combination of 4 and 6. Shoot her dead, but not out of compassion; it's out of our own self-interest. If she is left to fend for herself, she will eventually be half-eaten, and get up as yet another zombie. You cannot allow new zombies to be made.

[Thorn]

:lol: Best unintentional joke in HPOTD history.

ROFL...


You see.. the winch is operated by female employees of the local tavern, it is sort of part of their job responsibility to serve mutton, ale AND operate the winch...

No? Not buying it huh? Okay... Um... my bad.

[Bub666]

I would put her out of her misery.

[FoodFight]

3. I think that my skills would far outweigh any minor (pun intended) logistical encumberance, so I'm not too concerned over a punishment.

[DawnGirl27]

I'd let her in until the zombie threat had moved on, and then if the powers that be decided to kick her out once it was safe to be outside, then so be it.

I like this option - there's compassion there, but then you're also looking after yourself and the others with you. Honestly, in a situation like this, you're going to have to think out all options in a brutally frank way.

[Philly_SWAT]

(Again meant to be fun not over analyzed to death)

Well, guess that leaves me out......

:)

The simplest way to answer would just be to say "#6" and leave it at that, but thats no fun....

So in an effort to be brief, I'll say this...it is hard for me to imagine that I would find myself in a sanctuary that I did not at least have a large hand in initiating, if not outright creating on my own. So if it was "my" sanctuary, I would insist on an overriding veto vote on all matters, similar to the U.N. Security council. So I would bring her in, and figure out what to do with her later.

If for the sake of this argument, I did find myself in a sanctuary that I had no "authority" in, I would take this opportunity to petition to the council that if we turn away a living being to die at the hands of the zombie enemy that we have lost all our humanity, and have to let her in. If all arguments failed, I am not sure what I would do until actually having to face the decision. I would definitely NOT take option #1 or #5.

[sandrock74]

I would call the A-Team for help! :p

[Mike70]

#3. mercy and compassion are the highest expressions of what make us human, without them we are nothing more than brute animals.

besides, rules are made to be gotten around anyhow.

[Thorn]

#3. mercy and compassion are the highest expressions of what make us human, without them we are nothing more than brute animals...


I think this is very much true. If you are fighting for survival you are fighting for man because he is worth saving, I am not sure people so cold and callous as to not save a defenseless person in need are worthy of saving.

I would I think bring her in and deal with the backlash later.

Honestly whatever that might be. Again you don't know because you are not there, I do know however that me being who I am when someone is in trouble i am the first person to stop and try to help. It is how I am wires, I can not turn my back on who I am.

[AcesandEights]

#3. mercy and compassion are the highest expressions of what make us human, without them we are nothing more than brute animals.

besides, rules are made to be gotten around anyhow.

Good answer and nice embellishment! I can already see the warlord in charge starting to tear up as you remind him of his lost humanity ;)

Plus, prime breeding stock is needed!

I say 3! Between Scip's answer above and Krakenslayer's common sense-compassion, there's good enough reason to figure something could be worked out, at least in the short run to keep the gal safe.

However, I, of course, don't know for certain.

[DjfunkmasterG]

#3 for me, and like another said, you're going to need breeders.

[Philly_SWAT]

The reason I didnt aswer #3 is that without more information, that is a hard call to make. If it was well known (especially with evidence from past situations) that someone breaking the "dont let anyone in when we are full" rule would be punished by their own death, I am sure my instincts of self-preservation would make me think twice about what to do.

[darth los]

I was thinking that... classic Freudian slip there! :lol:

I'd let her in until the zombie threat had moved on, and then if the powers that be decided to kick her out once it was safe to be outside, then so be it.



Dude you stole my answer!! :(


I was thinking that i could haul her up and wait until the threat had passed. I know the counsel probably didn't wan't anyone in the facility because of limited supplies but since no supplies would be "wasted" that wouldn't be an issue. If they would still coldly leave her out there then I'd Shoot them in the head. You just don't do that to another human being.

If we let ourselves become that cold then we cease to be what makes us human. And then what would be the difference between us and them again?


If we do that then the terrorists win ! ( sorry, couldn't resist )




:cool:

[DjfunkmasterG]

Dude you stole my answer!! :(


I was thinking that i could haul her up and wait until the threat had passed. I know the counsel probably didn't wan't anyone in the facility because of limited supplies but since no supplies would be "wasted" that wouldn't be an issue. If they would still coldly leave her out there then I'd Shoot them in the head. You just don't do that to another human being.

If we let ourselves become that cold then we cease to be what makes us human. And then what would be the difference between us and them again?


If we do that then the terrorists win ! ( sorry, couldn't resist )




:cool:

and of course you forgot to admit the sexual favors you would request from said girl once you hoisted her from the zombie threat. That is of course provided she is at least 21 or older.

Slightly off topic - Why is 18 legal? To me that is still a kid, teen is in the age and it creeps me out thinking about people who are just waiting for some girl to turn 18. Now 21, thats a bit more easy to swallow, at least she is old enough to legally drink, vote and drive, plus it just doesn't feel as sleazy as 18 does.

[SRP76]

and of course you forgot to admit the sexual favors you would request from said girl once you hoisted her from the zombie threat. That is of course provided she is at least 21 or older.

Slightly off topic - Why is 18 legal? To me that is still a kid, teen is in the age and it creeps me out thinking about people who are just waiting for some girl to turn 18. Now 21, thats a bit more easy to swallow, at least she is old enough to legally drink, vote and drive, plus it just doesn't feel as sleazy as 18 does.

That's just a matter of perspective. Once puberty hits, it's on. I guarantee not one male on here had a problem screwing a 17-year-old chick when he was 15. In fact, most of us spent every second of every day plotting and planning about how to make it happen.

Now, what's different? It's not the girls; it's you. It only seems strange when looking behind you toward her age, instead of forward.

[Zombie Snack]

and of course you forgot to admit the sexual favors you would request from said girl once you hoisted her from the zombie threat. That is of course provided she is at least 21 or older.

Slightly off topic - Why is 18 legal? To me that is still a kid, teen is in the age and it creeps me out thinking about people who are just waiting for some girl to turn 18. Now 21, thats a bit more easy to swallow, at least she is old enough to legally drink, vote and drive, plus it just doesn't feel as sleazy as 18 does.

If at 18 you can join the military and die for your flag and Country....you should be able to fuck freely just as well

[krakenslayer]

Slightly off topic - Why is 18 legal? To me that is still a kid, teen is in the age and it creeps me out thinking about people who are just waiting for some girl to turn 18. Now 21, thats a bit more easy to swallow, at least she is old enough to legally drink, vote and drive, plus it just doesn't feel as sleazy as 18 does.

Well, in the UK you can drink alcohol with a meal in a restaurant at 14, the age of sexual consent, earliest age of marriage and age at which you can join the army is 16, at 17 you can drive and vote, at 18 you have full adult rights so you can smoke, purchase alcohol, drink in a bar, buy/watch/appear in pornography, and pretty much do anything legally (as long as it is legal).

Although I agree with the whole "drawing the line at 21" thing as far as women go. ;)