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zombiekiller
08-Jan-2009, 05:54 PM
has any one else read this book. it has nothing to do with the movie. it takes place between night and dawn. it starts out at a funeral(i know it might be spelled wrong) at a farm house. after the preacher says his peace they drive a metal spike thru the head. i bet it would have made a good movie.
DjfunkmasterG
08-Jan-2009, 07:13 PM
The book was optioned by Tom Fox, but because it was such a direct rip of Night, the script was re-tooled and the movie we know as Return of the Living Dead is nothing like the book, but the story did help get ROTLD get made.
IMO, ROTLD is tied for Greatest Zombie Film Ever made.
AcesandEights
08-Jan-2009, 07:36 PM
IMO, ROTLD is tied for Greatest Zombie Film Ever made.
Oh, dear! :p
The book sounds good, though...I'll have to search out a copy.
Mike70
08-Jan-2009, 07:43 PM
IMO, ROTLD is tied for Greatest Zombie Film Ever made.
aww shit, here we go.
(looks into the distance for bassman's approach)
Thorn
08-Jan-2009, 08:20 PM
Return was funny... but greatest living dead movie ever? I mean, I just personally can't see it. Putting aside my bias for GAR, and the fact that they are separate genres "Horror/humor and horror/political satire (okay not real genres sue me) One is very much pop eye candy slapstick mindless gore fest fun.... *gasps* and the other is well... relevant.
/throwswoodonfire
clanglee
08-Jan-2009, 08:51 PM
Yeah Yeah Yeah. . . .
ROTLD has my vote as best non-Romero zombie movie. Hell. . it even beats two of Romero's zombie movies. :p
MoonSylver
08-Jan-2009, 09:00 PM
The book was optioned by Tom Fox, but because it was such a direct rip of Night, the script was re-tooled and the movie we know as Return of the Living Dead is nothing like the book, but the story did help get ROTLD get made.
And then it got optioned AGAIN to be made into a movie, & once again got majorly tampered with, & thus the turd known as "Children of the Living Dead" was shat upon the world....:rant:
bassman
08-Jan-2009, 09:05 PM
(looks into the distance for bassman's approach)
I'm keeping my mouth shut. Just about everyone knows where I stand on the subject...
DjfunkmasterG
08-Jan-2009, 09:42 PM
Return was funny... but greatest living dead movie ever? I mean, I just personally can't see it. Putting aside my bias for GAR, and the fact that they are separate genres "Horror/humor and horror/political satire (okay not real genres sue me) One is very much pop eye candy slapstick mindless gore fest fun.... *gasps* and the other is well... relevant.
/throwswoodonfire
Did I say Greatest?
No, I said Tied for Greatest.
That and DAWN sit at the top for BEST ZOMBIE FILMS EVER.
I'm keeping my mouth shut. Just about everyone knows where I stand on the subject...
Yeah, just pipe down over there. :p
Yeah Yeah Yeah. . . .
ROTLD has my vote as best non-Romero zombie movie. Hell. . it even beats two of Romero's zombie movies. :p
DAMN skippy
sandrock74
09-Jan-2009, 12:30 AM
ROTLD tied with Dawn for greatest zombie movie ever?
wow
blind2d
09-Jan-2009, 01:46 AM
I thought Day was tied with Dawn... Anyway, rotld made me wanna laugh so hard my eyeballs would bleed, but then I remembered I didn't have any, so there you are. Anyway, wot was I on about?
ProfessorChaos
09-Jan-2009, 01:48 AM
i own this book, but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. maybe i should do that sometime.:rockbrow:
bassman
09-Jan-2009, 02:19 AM
Yeah, just pipe down over there. :p
You and your silly avatar just pipe down.
You and your....poliosis...:shifty:
This is where I make guitar guy laugh.:lol:
EvilNed
09-Jan-2009, 05:04 AM
I love ROTLD. It's fast, funny and I like it's style. It's extremely well directed and shot. Dan O'Bannon is a great writer, but it seems to be he can even get his vision through. Most of the film is shot in longer takes than what is usually done in films. I like it. There's definetly an artistic approach in that film that I love.
Mike70
09-Jan-2009, 06:31 AM
i've said it before and i'll say it again: return is a fun movie that shouldn't be taken too seriously. it has some damn funny moments in it and the performances of both james karen and clu gulanger kick ass.
SRP76
09-Jan-2009, 06:40 AM
IMO, ROTLD is tied for Greatest Zombie Film Ever made.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
As for the book, I've never seen it anywhere. If my library carried it, I'd certainly have read it by now; I've pretty much cleaned out the "zombie" section.
Cartma7546
09-Jan-2009, 06:50 AM
ROTLD was the greatest zombie movie, so was the Day of the dead remake....
bassman
09-Jan-2009, 01:07 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
I knew I wasn't alone.
I can't hold it any longer......It's not funny. It's not scary. There's absolutely nothing artistic about it. The script can't be from the co-writer of Alien - it just can't be. He must have had trauma to the brain between those years. The acting is horrible. The dialogue makes me want to puke. I could make better special effects using whatever I found in my pocket. Bottom line: It sucks.
Whew. I feel better now.:p Now to just sit back and wait for all the "you didn't get it!" posts....
DjfunkmasterG
09-Jan-2009, 02:09 PM
You didn't get it. :p
AcesandEights
09-Jan-2009, 02:34 PM
ROTLD is tied as the greatest zombie movie of all time?
Land sucks, yet somehow Diary is a good film?
Brian Keene has written stuff better than World War Z?
I swear to god, DJ, sometimes I think you're a bot stringing oft-reoccurring words from the forum with random verbs, adverbs and adjectives :p
Thorn
09-Jan-2009, 02:38 PM
ROTLD was the greatest zombie movie, so was the Day of the dead remake....
Troll.
As for the comment about not saying it is the best, I do not want to argue semantics with you but if it is as good as the one you deem the best one can certainly say you think it is the best. No? They are tied, on equal footing, as great as one another, on top of the heap surpassing all other zombie films ever made.
DjfunkmasterG
09-Jan-2009, 05:43 PM
ROTLD is tied as the greatest zombie movie of all time?
Land sucks, yet somehow Diary is a good film?
Brian Keene has written stuff better than World War Z?
I swear to god, DJ, sometimes I think you're a bot stringing oft-reoccurring words from the forum with random verbs, adverbs and adjectives :p
I like ROTLD and DAWN the same. I think they were both well made, represent the era they were made, and entertain me to a high degree when it comes to zombie films.
Yes LAND sucks, it really really sucks. 20 years, and $18,000,000 and that is the best Romero could do? Shit, the DAWN remake is a better film, and way more epic than LAND. Land should have been the be all end all zombie film, yet it fell way way short. What I don't get is the script I had read was very good, the final product was total trash.
Why people think WWZ is this great zombie book is beyond me. I thought the concept was cool, but the overall story telling, and events bored the hell out of me. I was expecting this grand tale of an all out zombie war, and what I ended up with was memoirs from a bunch of fictional people I didn't give two shits about.
Brian Keene's two zombie books had well developed characters, great stories, and a huge epic appeal. Something World War Z does not.
krakenslayer
09-Jan-2009, 06:06 PM
*deleted*
Thought we were talking about the movie.
Mike70
09-Jan-2009, 06:36 PM
I like ROTLD and DAWN the same. I think they were both well made, represent the era they were made, and entertain me to a high degree when it comes to zombie films.
i'll give you dawn representing the era it was made in, but well made??? what have you been smoking and why aren't you sharing it?
i'm not a film maker by any stretch yet i still recognize the technical ineptitude in much of dawn. the lousy makeup, a trampoline visible in one of the shots, etc. the list could go on.
i love dawn, don't get me wrong, but i love it for the story and the characters not the way it was made.
i keep an open mind and open eyes about these kinds of things. i love romero's work but dawn is most certainly not above being criticized.
darth los
09-Jan-2009, 06:54 PM
I like ROTLD and DAWN the same. I think they were both well made, represent the era they were made, and entertain me to a high degree when it comes to zombie films.
Yes LAND sucks, it really really sucks. 20 years, and $18,000,000 and that is the best Romero could do? Shit, the DAWN remake is a better film, and way more epic than LAND. Land should have been the be all end all zombie film, yet it fell way way short. What I don't get is the script I had read was very good, the final product was total trash.
Why people think WWZ is this great zombie book is beyond me. I thought the concept was cool, but the overall story telling, and events bored the hell out of me. I was expecting this grand tale of an all out zombie war, and what I ended up with was memoirs from a bunch of fictional people I didn't give two shits about.
Brian Keene's two zombie books had well developed characters, great stories, and a huge epic appeal. Something World War Z does not.
Right on deej. U know we're on the same page on this one. There's really nothing new i can add to this discussion that hasn't been said already. So instead i'll ask the question that no one ever does.
Even if you like land there's no arguing that it's not up to par with the trilogy.
The question is why? What does land lack that the filrst 3 films have? :confused:
I mean it's got zombies, guns, a hole villains and even boobs for good measure.
So what's missing?
:cool:
Trin
09-Jan-2009, 07:20 PM
ROTLD sucks. I cannot stand it. Was it a comedy? Was it a mocking of Night/Dawn/Day? Was it a poor attempt at being serious. It didn't really have any identity. Shaun was a better and more intelligent comedy that at least knew what it was trying to be.
It forever made zombies synonymous with "Braaaaaainnnss..." which I hate. It had talking zombies - "Send more paramedics..." - Zombies don't talk. It had zombies that you cannot destroy? WTF? The ending was stupid. Tarman was stupid. Reanimated dog corpse was stupid. It rapes the "... of the Living Dead" legacy.
And worst of all - it makes me sad for DJ and clanglee. *holds gun up* I love you guys but I can't stand to see you suffer like this...
ProfessorChaos
09-Jan-2009, 10:34 PM
so, i guess we are no longer talking about the book? has anyone read it?
clanglee
09-Jan-2009, 11:38 PM
Fuck the book Chaos!!! ;):p
Yes. . I love ROTLD. Always have. .always will. And yes,. . it is funny as hell. AND. . it had the best soundtrack out of any dead movie ever. You guys didn't like it? too bad. It was a fun, non-serious, non social-comentary laden, good time. Hell. . .I even like part 2. Now 3 and on however. . . . :dead:
DjfunkmasterG
10-Jan-2009, 01:56 AM
Fuck the book Chaos!!! ;):p
Yes. . I love ROTLD. Always have. .always will. And yes,. . it is funny as hell. AND. . it had the best soundtrack out of any dead movie ever. You guys didn't like it? too bad. It was a fun, non-serious, non social-comentary laden, good time. Hell. . .I even like part 2. Now 3 and on however. . . . :dead:
UNITED WE STAND
:rant:
You Romero purests just don't get it. Return is the anti zombie movie. It puts every horror cliche into a great comedic story and to wrap it all up, it has zombies.
While I love SHAUN of the DEAD al that film did was copy the formula of ROTLD, just did it in a different way, but if you look at the structure of the story and how it unfolds, the over the top humor etc, it is just a modernized version of ROTLD.
DO YOU WANNA PARTY? :skull:
EvilNed
10-Jan-2009, 02:10 AM
I'm with ya guys. I fail to see how anyone could NOT like Return! It works on so many levels. It's a tight story, of a very desperate fight. All the while being quite funny and charming. Oh, and I said, it has artistic merit... :D
Mike70
10-Jan-2009, 02:24 AM
UNITED WE STAND
:rant:
You Romero purests just don't get it. Return is the anti zombie movie. It puts every horror cliche into a great comedic story and to wrap it all up, it has zombies.
DO YOU WANNA PARTY? :skull:
amen. i'll say it again i totally dig return. the movie is fun as all hell and shouldn't be taken too seriously. like clang said it doesn't have the obvious, heavy handed social "commentary" of romero's films. sometimes i think romero is trying to be the ingmar bergman or john cassavetes of horror,which he most certainly is not (both were better directors on their worst days than george will ever be on his best), by making these grand, sweeping comments on society and human nature.
DjfunkmasterG
10-Jan-2009, 12:57 PM
I know Romero has another DAWN of the DEAD in him, I just wish he would he do the friggin' thing already because I would hate to see him pass away and leave a turd like his new flick is looking, and that be the film he is judged on for the rest of the world to see.
Mike70
10-Jan-2009, 06:37 PM
I know Romero has another DAWN of the DEAD in him, I just wish he would he do the friggin' thing already because I would hate to see him pass away and leave a turd like his new flick is looking, and that be the film he is judged on for the rest of the world to see.
maybe he does and maybe he doesn't. the man is pushing 70. i think george's legacy will always be tied to the first 3 dead movies and the other cool flicks (martin, creepshow,etc) he made when he was much younger.
capncnut
10-Jan-2009, 08:02 PM
I know Romero has another DAWN of the DEAD in him...
I really hope so but I think you're being a little too optimistic, mate.
AcesandEights
10-Jan-2009, 09:29 PM
I know Romero has another DAWN of the DEAD in him...
I hope it's sealed up in a ziploc bag.
bassman
10-Jan-2009, 09:43 PM
I love it how people seem to think that if someone doesn't like a film it means they don't "get it".:rolleyes:
Mike70
10-Jan-2009, 10:07 PM
I love it how people seem to think that if someone doesn't like a film it means they don't "get it".:rolleyes:
that is the first line of fanboy defense. i understand why you don't dig return and i can respect that. i think the movie is fun but not "getting it"?? what the hell is there to get about it. it isn't aristotle for christ sake's.
sandrock74
10-Jan-2009, 11:04 PM
I love it how people seem to think that if someone doesn't like a film it means they don't "get it".:rolleyes:
Yeah, can't I just plain not like a movie? I need to "get it" and understand all this hidden crap? What if I just plain don't like it?
bassman
10-Jan-2009, 11:15 PM
I would just like to say something about the "new" dawn of the dead from Romero. It won't happen. That film is done and is what it is.
Anyone looking for something like that is just setting themselves up for the ultimate let down. Not ONE of his films have been similar to another. Not a single one. You expect that to change now?:confused:
Zombie Snack
10-Jan-2009, 11:37 PM
I Love ROTLD....great flick to sit back and bong out too
clanglee
12-Jan-2009, 07:45 AM
I love it how people seem to think that if someone doesn't like a film it means they don't "get it".:rolleyes:
ummm. . never said that.
EvilNed
12-Jan-2009, 08:26 AM
that is the first line of fanboy defense. i understand why you don't dig return and i can respect that. i think the movie is fun but not "getting it"?? what the hell is there to get about it. it isn't aristotle for christ sake's.
Saying that someone doesn't get it, is just another way of saying the film is boring.
bassman
12-Jan-2009, 02:35 PM
ummm. . never said that.
ummm...did I quote you in my post? What makes you think I'm talking about you?:rockbrow:
darth los
12-Jan-2009, 08:23 PM
I'd rather just enjoy these films for what they are. So what they talk and eat brains? It's the film makers vision. Who are we to knock that?
If someone doesn't like it then just ignore it. No one's making anyone watch anything. That's the whole reason Savini was so pissed off about the night remake. Let the man make the film that's in his head for christ's sake.
How many vampire movies have we seen where the "rules" are different. In some of them garlic and holy water don't do jack shit but no one bats an eye. We all just say, " hey that's just they way they are in this movie." and we just keep it moving. But for some reason whenever someone dares have an alternate vision of what a zombie should be, people go apeshit over it.
Just some thoughts.
:cool:
clanglee
12-Jan-2009, 08:26 PM
ummm...did I quote you in my post? What makes you think I'm talking about you?:rockbrow:
I guess it was the general use of the word people without some specification. . like "some people" I dunno.
but I'll tell you this Bass. . . you don't get it. ;)
kingofmonsters2
13-Jan-2009, 12:32 AM
the truth is that it all boils down to taste, some people enjoy this movie and others do not.
i dont claim they "dont get it"
or that they are "purists"
some people just dont like the same thing.
i do happen to love this movie, and i do think it is one of the greatest zombie movies ever made and sorry that the series went down hill the way that it had.
i am also sorry that john russo has his damned name anywhere near this movie.
like or hate this movie, i think we can all agree that russo needs to be chained up in a basement somewhere and kept away from any form of movie making materials.
the greatest thing to have happened is that o'bannon made his own movie and russo was left in the wind like a bad fart.
darth los
13-Jan-2009, 07:12 PM
the truth is that it all boils down to taste, some people enjoy this movie and others do not.
i dont claim they "dont get it"
or that they are "purists"
some people just dont like the same thing.
i do happen to love this movie, and i do think it is one of the greatest zombie movies ever made and sorry that the series went down hill the way that it had.
i am also sorry that john russo has his damned name anywhere near this movie.
like or hate this movie, i think we can all agree that russo needs to be chained up in a basement somewhere and kept away from any form of movie making materials.
the greatest thing to have happened is that o'bannon made his own movie and russo was left in the wind like a bad fart.
Although, we can thank our lucky stars that russo was vindicated by NOTLD 30th. Right? :shifty:
And about a series going downhill, Now GAR can attest to that too. :D
Although he'd probably cop out and say that the films are in no way related and thus technically not a series. :p
:cool:
DjfunkmasterG
13-Jan-2009, 07:38 PM
Although, we can thank our lucky stars that russo was vindicated by NOTLD 30th. Right? :shifty:
And about a series going downhill, Now GAR can attest to that too. :D
Although he'd probably cop out and say that the films are in no way related and thus technically not a series. :p
:cool:
Hasn't he always said that?
I only bust Bassman's bals about ROTLD. i know he hates the movie which why when he said he was waiting for the "I don't get it" comments I was the first to chime in on that post.
However, an excellent point was made when talking about Vampires. Its ok for someone to screw with the mythology of Vamps, no one cares, but change one little zombie mythos and people go apeshit.
Even Romero has changed his own mythos from film to film.
In Night the bite transformed someone within hours, in DAWN it took 3 days, in Day we assume a day, although Miguel never turned, in Land it took an hour, and Diary a couple of hours. The man can't keep his own zombie mythos straight.
The biggest mythos people have a problem with is when someone changes things to running zombies. Who cares if they run? It is still dead flesh awakened by some unknown force, the fact it is more agile makes it scarier IMHO.
In ROTLD, the zombies run and talk, but aren't Zack Snyder/Danny Boyle track stars. The talking aspect was funny as hell to me, but can also be creepy. Now you have smart zombies, that can plot and communicate. Dan O'Bannon made the ultimate smart zombie. Romero should have taken some pointers when playing with the Big Daddy character for Land, but IMHO he should have just ignored the smart zombie subject as it was already done, and no one could do it as good as O'Bannon did with Return.
The fact remains though not everyone will like every zombie film, but we can't go apeshit when someone changes mythology about the zombie and the zombie plague when our beloved Uncle George does the same thing.
Thorn
14-Jan-2009, 02:07 PM
maybe that is where Mr. Romero is "Going" with the series, the constant progression and learning. Maybe of of his zombies will be intelligent and able to communicate, reason, and lead on a level that surpasses all the rest. It is not a direction I am particularly fond of, because I am very much a fan of the slow dumb zombie... not my call though.
SRP76
14-Jan-2009, 04:42 PM
However, an excellent point was made when talking about Vampires. Its ok for someone to screw with the mythology of Vamps, no one cares, but change one little zombie mythos and people go apeshit.
That's a stretch. Small variations don't piss people off, as long as it doesn't change the basic mechanics of the creature; as long as they don't mess with what makes the creature what it is.
Example A:
A zombie doesn't make any noise ---> Zombies do some grunting, growling and moaning. No big deal; very little complaint.
A vampire doesn't give a damn about silver ---> Vampires burn, agonize, what-have-you when they get silver laid to them. Small potatoes; little complaint.
Example B:
A zombie, being a dead body, is slow, uncoordinated, and incapable of speech ---> Zombies run, speak better than your average college graduate, and qualify for the Olympic gymnastics team. HUGE deal; you better believe people bitch.
A vampire cannot handle sunlight; it kills ---> Vampires walk around in daylight without a care in the world. Watch what happens then.
DjfunkmasterG
14-Jan-2009, 05:31 PM
I do dig slow and dumb zombies, but I like runners, but not the track star runners, ROTLD runners is what I like in a running zombie.
Vampires, the mythos are different from film to film so basically anything that remains consistent to Bram Stokers Dracula is what I dig.
clanglee
19-Aug-2009, 03:43 AM
A vampire cannot handle sunlight; it kills ---> Vampires walk around in daylight without a care in the world. Watch what happens then.
What happens then is a completely annoying "sexual fantasy for teenaged girls" that becomes like the most popular vampire movie in decades.
Fucking Twilight :rolleyes:
I should point out there are infact TWO books written by Russo called Return of the Living Dead. The original book which was written after the split with Romero and a true sequel to Night, and an adaptation of the film version which was obviously done later.
Albert Wesker
23-Aug-2009, 09:15 AM
The book was actually good,or at least I thought so.If you ever read Romero's original script for Day of the Dead it's kind of like that,very violent and descriptive.As far as ROTLD the movie it was total genius,I'm biased towards George Romero because I used to live in Pittsburgh and actually went to the Monroeville mall a few times when i was a kid.But I think ROTLD was the complete package for a movie,funny,gory,serious,a little bit of social commentary for the times and I enjoy watching it more than any other Zombie movie made,with Dawn of the Dead following closely behind.
dracenstein
23-Aug-2009, 10:05 AM
I used to have a copy of the original Return of the Living Dead book, a proper sequel to NotLD and thought it was nothing more than okay.
If it was a straight choice between Russo and Romero (film or book), I would go for Romero every time.
Russo and Romero got it great with NotLD, but when they went their seperate ways, Romero had the better product.
Now, the film.
I loved the film, the humour, the gore, the characters and Linnea Quigley.
But, given a choice, I would watch a Romero film.
krakenslayer
23-Aug-2009, 11:00 AM
RotLD had a lot of promise, but overall I think it was a pretty dull movie. I actually quite liked the unstoppable zombies and their sick lust for flesh, it's a genuinely terrifying concept! Tarman, in particular, just kept surprising me - his eerie grin, problem-solving ability and lustful cries of "brains" are genuinely shit scary if you put yourself in the characters' shoes, especially when you know you can't kill him with a simple bullet. I realise that unstoppable zombies, which can be dismembered and continue to come after you, don't make any physical sense. Sure, Romero-style zombies are pretty far-fetched too, but at least the vulnerability of their brains at least hints at some biochemical, physical principle at work. Return does not have this, how can an arm without a brain know how to grab someone? But it doesn't matter to me because it's a comic book-type movie and you really have to suspend your disbelief, because it is a fucking scary idea if you just go with it.
So far it sounds like I quite liked Return, but no, overall it bored me senseless. The main problem was the characters - there were loads of them and most of them were interchangeable, they were all totally one-dimensional, and spend most of the running time just going around screaming at each other. Every single character in this movie irritated the piss out of me. Never did anyone really bother to come up with a decent plan of action, nothing exciting ever happens except for repetitive zombie attacks.
The comedy was dire. I didn't laugh once throughout the movie. It wasn't until the "funny" montage at the end that I was able to tell when I was supposed to be laughing (apart from "send more paramedics" and "like this job!?" which I could see were supposed to be funny but weren't).
So yeah, lots of promise, dull movie. I'm gonna get flogged for saying this but I greatly prefer parts 2 and 3 (particularly 3).
wayzim
24-Aug-2009, 05:06 PM
The book was actually good,or at least I thought so.If you ever read Romero's original script for Day of the Dead it's kind of like that,very violent and descriptive.As far as ROTLD the movie it was total genius,I'm biased towards George Romero because I used to live in Pittsburgh and actually went to the Monroeville mall a few times when i was a kid.But I think ROTLD was the complete package for a movie,funny,gory,serious,a little bit of social commentary for the times and I enjoy watching it more than any other Zombie movie made,with Dawn of the Dead following closely behind.
I still have my copy of ROTLD; The Paperback, which I got at a Sci Fi con many years ago. It's a good read and inspired a grain of an idea which became Deadfall and the subsequent short stories. I liked the notion of a plague that wasn't ongoing but came in waves, stronger with each new cycle.
Wayne Z
Scarcely a celebration of the ages, a vagabond band camped near the base of the Catskills. What Woodstock had built in August, The Dead had torn asunder in October, but something of that liberal spirit remained still. A free bird ready to take flight.
They were eventually some two hundred strong, already social outcasts in their own minds, exiles from the besieged cities, North and South, gathered together on private farmland. With the retreat out of the killing fields of Albany, New York City and other smaller communities, the partially tamed wilds were a balm to the senses, and these frightened children did what they did best in the extreme.
Deadfall; Fools on the Hill.
Albert Wesker
24-Aug-2009, 05:47 PM
I enjoyed part 2 alot myself,if you take it for whats its worth it's a very entertaining movie.Part 3 I had high hopes for,I read in Fangoria before it came out that it was going to be serious and tell the story in the Zombies point of view,but that's not at all what the final production was.So it was a big letdown for me,if it didn't have the ROTLD name on it it would've been alot more watchable.As far as 4 an 5 I don't know what the fuck they were thinking,all they were missing was zombies with jetpacks doing slapstick comedy.
DjfunkmasterG
24-Aug-2009, 06:41 PM
I enjoyed part 2 alot myself,if you take it for whats its worth it's a very entertaining movie.Part 3 I had high hopes for,I read in Fangoria before it came out that it was going to be serious and tell the story in the Zombies point of view,but that's not at all what the final production was.So it was a big letdown for me,if it didn't have the ROTLD name on it it would've been alot more watchable.As far as 4 an 5 I don't know what the fuck they were thinking,all they were missing was zombies with jetpacks doing slapstick comedy.
I refuse to further acknowledge the existence of Return 4 or 5. As far as I am concerned the series stopped at part 3.
SRP76
24-Aug-2009, 06:58 PM
I refuse to further acknowledge the existence of Return 4 or 5. As far as I am concerned the series stopped at part 3.
You actually consider ROTLD3 to exist as a film? I always thought of it more as "abuse".
Wyldwraith
24-Aug-2009, 07:01 PM
Again I say,
Rip on the hamhanded way they glammed the Twilight movie up, but Stephanie Meyer's books were probably the best depiction of "humane vampires" ever delivered.
The thing about the zombie vs vampire mythos is that vampire movies draw heavily on the traditional folklore of european vampires, and movie zombies are pretty much a product of the scriptwriter's adaptation of the mythical Ghoul. That being the case, there's a LOT more flex-room in the vampire mythos than in the artificial movie zombie mythos.
On one point I'll concede however. The trend of the last few years has been to make vampires some sort of virally affected humans with predatory mutations, because the whole Vampires Are Unholy/Harmed by holy water, crosses, holy ground etc. has been abandoned.
I think the reason people scream so loudly when someone mucks with the zombie mythos is because those who decide to alter the mythos almost always go completely over the top, Ie: The Day remake.
Mike70
24-Aug-2009, 07:38 PM
You actually consider ROTLD3 to exist as a film? I always thought of it more as "abuse".
word. that "film" sucks in ways that ginger lynn could appreciate.
krakenslayer
24-Aug-2009, 09:54 PM
You actually consider ROTLD3 to exist as a film? I always thought of it more as "abuse".
I liked Part 3 the most out of the whole series. Sure, it wasn't a true "zombie movie", but I liked the story it told. It was silly and cheesy, but sad and serious at the same time. I understand why other people didn't like it, though - it was very weird.
DjfunkmasterG
24-Aug-2009, 10:07 PM
You actually consider ROTLD3 to exist as a film? I always thought of it more as "abuse".
Trust me if you have watched 4 & 5, 3 is closer to the original mythology than the latest 2 shitfests.
While 3 is a far departure, and that is because it wasn't written as a direct sequel for the series, it still is better zombie film than 4 & 5.
3, only got its name when Trimark scooped up the name rights in a fire sale auction from Orion Pictures. Trimark was sold to Lions Gate, hence why the DVD is Lion's Gate.
MGM owns the rights to the series now. They scopped it bacxk up when the DVD re-release for 2005 did very well, and because they plan a remake in the near future with Tom Cruise's UA doing the production (Studio wise)
DeadJonas190
25-Aug-2009, 09:02 AM
has any one else read this book. it has nothing to do with the movie. it takes place between night and dawn. it starts out at a funeral(i know it might be spelled wrong) at a farm house. after the preacher says his peace they drive a metal spike thru the head. i bet it would have made a good movie.
I have read it a couple times, it is a decent story even though there are many spelling errors (you would think they would hire a proof reader before it hit the presses). I got lucky and snatched up a first edition on Ebay a few years back and then got it signed by Russo who seemed irritated that I didn't want it personalized until I told him I have no plans to sell it unless I absolutely needed the money (at the time a signed copy was on Amazon for over $200).
Arcades057
25-Aug-2009, 09:40 AM
I'm staying with a friend who maintains that the original ROTLD is the best zombie film of all time.
Personally, though--I didn't like it all that much.
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