Night of the Living dead 30th....

[DEAD BEAT]

just got through watching night 30th with a couple of heinikens and let me just say.....

I am glad i have 2 nuts 1 for Russo and 1 for Streiner 2 suck on....man did those pair of losers ever rape Romero's great masterpiece!!

I no i no this piece of shiit is already 11 years old and i didn't give a squirt of piss to ever see it then, but i found it in the used rack today for 5 bucks and figured what the hell......i would have rather bought a beer.
The extra scenes were bullshiit especially the end, cheesy ass score, and not to mention the credits were practically the entire Russo and Streiner fricken family tree!
I'll bet George's corn hole is still killing him today for this one!!!
Well in short i guess we knew who the talent was and these losers went along for the ride non talent bastards...man that felt great to vent!!!

Long live the master George A. Romero...and looking forward to seeing Dawn in 3D and George's new one!!!:p;)

[ProfessorChaos]

i've posted on this in another thread, but this movie is so fucking terrible it's worth typing it again:

when i first moved out on my own and began building my movie collection, one of the first films on my list to get was NOLD...i ordered a copy from a vendor on amazon.com and the fuckhead sent me this piece of garbage. i was a little more than offended/nauseated/pissed/upset about not only the dipshit selling me such a shitty movie while advertising it as the original, but even more so by the fact that this movie was even fucking made....seriously, who would want to be a part of something so fucking cheesy?

[Mike70]

yep bro, that flick is a right and proper piece of shite. all the negatives and copies of it ought to be shot into the fucking sun to burn up and rid the solar system of one of the most titanic turds ever.

words utterly fail to describe this complete and total desecration for which there is no defense at all. anyone trying to defend this garbage should be dipped in honey, tied down and fed to fire ants.




when i first moved out on my own and began building my movie collection, one of the first films on my list to get was NOLD...i ordered a copy from a vendor on amazon.com and the fuckhead sent me this piece of garbage.

ugh. that's like ordering a thin lizzy record and getting some piece of shit by biggie smalls instead.

[DEAD BEAT]

Thanx fellas 4 typing what i may have left out....first i thought i was drunk but then realized it was the movie because i began to get the shiits!!!

Maan i would love to bitch slap Russo & Streiner for this masterpiece of shiit then dick slap hinzman for taking part in this crap!!!:moon::annoyed:

To think i gave up a beer for this turd!!!:mad:

[krakenslayer]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...this movie makes me wanna.... EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Yojimbo]

I have always loved Harry Knowles review of the 30th, especially this excerpt:

"I know NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD. I love this film. It’s one of the first films that made me love filmgoing and film fandom. And these perverted fucking assholes have fucked that, and I goddamn bought the piece of shit, and I’m broke right now and I’M PISSED CAUSE I WOULD RATHER BUY AN EXTRA 100 PACKETS OF TOILET PAPER AND TAMPONS FOR MY SISTER. I would rather own those things... hell.... even keep em once they are soiled, than own this piece of shit. It is festering in my house and getting me into a fit of anger just knowing I’m sharing the same house as it. In fact, I am going to tell Dad to go put it in the Brown Van. A vehicle that is DEAD... Worthless..... The place where worthless shite should be stored. THIS IS ABOMINABLE!"

The rest of the review, if you haven't seen it, pretty much mirrors what most fans think:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=4397


I do hope that at the very least our honored board member Gary Streiner got something out of the 30th. As an initial investor in the original, I hate to think that he did not get at least some token of appreciation for the 30th.

Along those lines, I do wonder what Gary might have to say about the travesty which was NOLD 30th anniversary release? How involved was he in this release, or was he involved in it at all? Who made the very bad decision to cut up the movie and add the useless new footage? Who the hell hired that Anton LaVey lookalike to do the mediocre-at-best new soundtrack and decided to give him a role in the film?

Poor Gary! I guess it's kind of unfair to ask him to essentially point out who the fans should shower their wrath upon for this widely hated version of NOLD.

[Mike70]

I have always loved Harry Knowles review of the 30th, especially this excerpt:



that review cracked me the hell up the first time i read it. i particularly like the part where he suggests that john russo should be buried alive for what he did to the original.

i also love this bit:


IMAGINE: if in addition to the little things George Lucas did to Star Wars, he cut out the scenes between Luke and Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. Imagine if half the dialogue between Luke and OB1 was removed. If a third of all dialogue between R2 and 3PO was removed. If all new sound effects were brought in. If additional music written by Christopher Young was added (In a Different Style). If Light Sabers sounded DIFFERENT. If Darth Vader’s heavy breathing was done by an asthmatic with a microphone. THEN they added in scenes with a new character called Voltent and Wodstar, and they were on another planet all together where everything was fine. Then they added additional Stormtroopers running around halls and bumping into one another.

:lol:

[DubiousComforts]

Maan i would love to bitch slap Russo & Streiner for this masterpiece of shiit then dick slap hinzman for taking part in this crap!!!:moon::annoyed:
Now you guys are scaring me.

[DEAD BEAT]

well i know where this junk is going right next to my last roll of toliet paper...hopefully i can get some use for my 5 bucks!;)

[krakenslayer]

Who the hell hired that Anton LaVey lookalike to do the mediocre-at-best new soundtrack and decided to give him a role in the film?

Gotta love those scenes with the 21-year-old Reverend Lucifer Bucktooth talking fire and brimstone in a whiny, arhythmic, monotone voice, where Russo's direction is so bad that every time the Reverend raises his Bible (which is 50% of the time, because the non-actor that plays him has obvious stagefright and is waving the prop around to take attention away from himself) his face is totally obscured right in the middle of his big scene. :lol:

[capncnut]

Gotta love those scenes with the 21-year-old Reverend Lucifer Bucktooth talking fire and brimstone in a whiny, arhythmic, monotone voice, where Russo's direction is so bad that every time the Reverend raises his Bible (which is 50% of the time, because the non-actor that plays him has obvious stagefright and is waving the prop around to take attention away from himself) his face is totally obscured right in the middle of his big scene. :lol:
I'm assuming 'Anton' Vladimir Licina (:D) got the part because he (de)composed the new score.

I can actually see what Russo was trying to attempt, essentially bring forth a crisp clean NOTLD, with new scenes that would add some depth. Thing is, they took OUT fifteen minutes of good material and added fifteen minutes of bad material. I think if they left it all in (including classic score), dropped the new characters (the gravediggers and priest were f**king pitiful) and kept some of the new scenes (the Beekmans zombies looked cool, as did the car feast, and some of the posse scenes) then it might not have been so bad.

Why on Earth did they go for round two with Children Of The Living Dead? That is one dogs dinner of a movie. And I hear they are going for round three as well. :confused:

[Yojimbo]

I'm assuming 'Anton' Vladimir Licina (:D) got the part because he (de)composed the new score.

I can actually see what Russo was trying to attempt, essentially bring forth a crisp clean NOTLD, with new scenes that would add some depth. Thing is, they took OUT fifteen minutes of good material and added fifteen minutes of bad material. I think if they left it all in (including classic score), dropped the new characters (the gravediggers and priest were f**king pitiful) and kept some of the new scenes (the Beekmans zombies looked cool, as did the car feast, and some of the posse scenes) then it might not have been so bad.

Why on Earth did they go for round two with Children Of The Living Dead? That is one dogs dinner of a movie. And I hear they are going for round three as well. :confused:
I do hear what you are saying and agree. When I had first heard about the idea behind the 30th, I was really excited since I thought that they would "add" to one of my favorite films. I actually ran out an bought it on the day of release and rushed home with it.

A few hours later my wife comes home and finds me walking around the apartment, talking angrily to myself like one of those lunatics you used to see shouting at imaginary people on the street.

[capncnut]

When I had first heard about the idea behind the 30th, I was really excited since I thought that they would "add" to one of my favorite films. I actually ran out an bought it on the day of release and rushed home with it.

A few hours later my wife comes home and finds me walking around the apartment, talking angrily to myself like one of those lunatics you used to see shouting at imaginary people on the street.
I first saw it on the shelf at HMV and the caption read, "including fifteen minutes of never before seen material". Naturally I came close to shitting my pants on the spot and coughed up the dollar sharpish. Like you, a couple of hours later I was totally bummed.

I used the case as a joint rolling 'rest' for about ten years and only keep the film for the behind the scenes Karl Hardman footage. Oh, and this little slice of hilarity:

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"Yeah, they're dead
yeah, they're dead
y-y-yeah, they're dead
shoot 'em in the head"

:lol:

[ProfessorChaos]

cap, was that shit on the bonus features on the dvd?

i think i was so disgusted after forcing myself to suffer through the film (still perma-scarred, that's why i refuse to ever watch ghey08) that i trashed the dvd or traded it in without even bothering with the menus.

[capncnut]

cap, was that shit on the bonus features on the dvd?

i think i was so disgusted after forcing myself to suffer through the film (still perma-scarred, that's why i refuse to ever watch ghey08) that i trashed the dvd or traded it in without even bothering with the menus.
Yeah, it was a bonus music video which remixed the new score called 'Dance Of The Dead'. The priest guy wrote and recorded the piece.

You should've watched the bonus material, you might've thought twice about chucking it. The fifteen minute featurette is better than the whole movie. It has a bunch of the NOTLD oldies behind the scenes, including Hinzman larking around during the coffin scene, and nattering with his family later on.

Then again, the DVD also contains an utterly stupid scene from Flesh Eater (aka Zombie Nosh, a title I've always found funny :D).

[krakenslayer]

I can actually see what Russo was trying to attempt, essentially bring forth a crisp clean NOTLD, with new scenes that would add some depth. Thing is, they took OUT fifteen minutes of good material and added fifteen minutes of bad material. I think if they left it all in (including classic score), dropped the new characters (the gravediggers and priest were f**king pitiful) and kept some of the new scenes (the Beekmans zombies looked cool, as did the car feast, and some of the posse scenes) then it might not have been so bad.


See, I thought even the extra zombie scenes were terrible - I remember one of the "bonus" scenes, they just pointed a camera haphazardly at a derelict car with a few people with cherry syrup on their clothes inside, then had a bunch of crappy zombies file past for ages. All in one static shot. Adding absolutely nothing to the movie.

[Mike70]

I used the case as a joint rolling 'rest' for about ten years and only keep the film for the behind the scenes Karl Hardman footage. Oh, and this little slice of hilarity:

uXkiXfy3BRk

:lol:

that shitfest has always made me think of 14 year old who just got his first synth.

[DEAD BEAT]

Well i think this shiit can be used as reverse viagra.....;):p

[Yojimbo]

Yeah, it was a bonus music video which remixed the new score called 'Dance Of The Dead'. The priest guy wrote and recorded the piece.

You should've watched the bonus material, you might've thought twice about chucking it. The fifteen minute featurette is better than the whole movie. It has a bunch of the NOTLD oldies behind the scenes, including Hinzman larking around during the coffin scene, and nattering with his family later on.

Then again, the DVD also contains an utterly stupid scene from Flesh Eater (aka Zombie Nosh, a title I've always found funny :D).


Yeah this came out in my pre-dvd player days, and I purchased it on vhs, so the only thing my version had on it was the awful and pointless Flesh Eater promo - which after having seen the 30th made me even angrier. Arrrrrrgh!!

I swore an oath at that time that I would get seek revenge for what they did to NOLD, so when I came across an aquaintance who had not seen this yet, but as a fan intended to purchase his own copy, I turned my copy over to him on the proviso that he pass the copy along to the next fan he came across. In this way, I hoped that my copy would pass free from fan to fan and eliminate the additional revenue that the filmakers did not deserve.

Bad thing is, though, the extras you describe rom you dvd copy sound pretty cool, so now I am inclined to seek out another copy - a thought that is giving my roids flare up even as I type this.

[darth los]

See, I thought even the extra zombie scenes were terrible - I remember one of the "bonus" scenes, they just pointed a camera haphazardly at a derelict car with a few people with cherry syrup on their clothes inside, then had a bunch of crappy zombies file past for ages. All in one static shot. Adding absolutely nothing to the movie.


The only thing that was cool about that scene was that we got to see a couple of workers from Beekman's as well. We heard and spoke so much about it yet we never actually saw what went down there. I thought it fleshed out Ben's story a little.







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[DEAD BEAT]

I turned my copy over to him on the proviso that he pass the copy along to the next fan he came across. In this way, I hoped that my copy would pass free from fan to fan and eliminate the additional revenue that the filmakers did not deserve.

lol this sounds like a laxitive commercial!:D

but ive seen the movie so i understand your pain my friend!:lol:

I hate to admit this but i think it would have been cool to recreate the scene Ben describes of his in counter @ beakman's dinner that would have been cool!

Instead of that Anton Levy looking queer and that opening bullshiit scene, i mean Hinzman didnt look like no dam killer, look more to me like someones grandpa that couldnt get it up!:dead:

And finally if anyone is ever feeling constapated just watch the last new scene of really bad acting that will give anyone the shiits for days!;)

p.s. i hope 1 day Russo or Streiner reads these blogs and know what a bunch of hacks they are,,,long live GAR the real visionary!!!:clown:

[darth los]

I hate to admit this but i think it would have been cool to recreate the scene Ben describes of his in counter @ beakman's dinner that would have been cool!


That's exactly what I mean dude. We've heard countless stories and even seen comic book prequels regarding the events at Beekman's diner Yet never actually seen it on film. What a collective hard on that would give the folks (male and female) at this Place !! :hyper:







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[DubiousComforts]

I hate to admit this but i think it would have been cool to recreate the scene Ben describes of his in counter @ beakman's dinner that would have been cool!
I agree with you. They could have found a suitable body double for Duane Jones and with a bit of creative camerawork and editing, fleshed out the Beekman's diner scene to be shown in flashback while Ben narrates.

The Beekman's diner ghouls look ridiculous and out of place in the context of NIGHT. There was no point in utilizing 90s prosthetic make-up techniques to show torn-up faces, etc. when there is nothing like that in the original film. Bill Hinzman said that he didn't understand why they would use appliances on his face to make him look thinner.

[darth los]

Well, while you guys are the undisputed experts on these matters I do recall from Ben's story him saying that the place was crawling with ghouls, good old boys shooting up the place and a rather big explosion.


Perhaps the combination of all three caused the mutilations we saw. Wouldn't it be nice for it to be on film to back it up though? ;)






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[DubiousComforts]

Well, while you guys are the undisputed experts on these matters I do recall from Ben's story him saying that the place was crawling with ghouls, good old boys shooting up the place and a rather big explosion. Perhaps the combination of all three caused the mutilations we saw. Wouldn't it be nice for it to be on film to back it up though? ;)
Actually, according to Ben's story in the film, everyone was killed in the area of Beekman's Diner except himself, which is why he hightailed it out of there in the pick-up truck. It helps to explain his hatred for those "damn things" somewhat.

Ben also doesn't say for certain that the gasoline truck exploded ("I didn't know if the truck was going to explode or what, but I could still hear the man... screaming.") I would have had no problem with the filmmakers showing grotesquely burned and mutilated ghouls, but they should have used the same make-up techniques as when they initially made the film to pull it off.

[darth los]

Actually, according to Ben's story in the film, everyone was killed in the area of Beekman's Diner except himself, which is why he hightailed it out of there in the pick-up truck. It helps to explain his hatred for those "damn things" somewhat.

Ben also doesn't say for certain that the gasoline truck exploded ("I didn't know if the truck was going to explode or what, but I could still hear the man... screaming.") I would have had no problem with the filmmakers showing grotesquely burned and mutilated ghouls, but they should have used the same make-up techniques as when they initially made the film to pull it off.


Me and philly had a thread about this a while back and we came to the consensus that eyewitness testimony being as unreliable as it is due to various factors, such as the stress of the situation, we have to take Ben's account with a grain of salt. How does he know there weren't any survivors?


Now that I think about it, you're totally right about him not knowing if the truck was going to blow.

But thinking about the rest of the series and how zombies show up with mutilated faces, the first thought that pops into my mind is how they got to be that way. Did it happen in the struggle for survival while they were alive? Did a ghoul do that to them? Or, did a human do that to them when they already a ghoul?


Any number of factors could explain why the, no doubt "fresh", ghouls shambling down the road got to be that way.


I'm not mad though. It just gives us ammo for debate.


But ya, they definitely should have used the make up techniques of the original to try and blend it in as seemlessly as possible. But it's Russo, so what are ya gonna do right? :rolleyes:






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[capncnut]

Bad thing is, though, the extras you describe rom you dvd copy sound pretty cool, so now I am inclined to seek out another copy - a thought that is giving my roids flare up even as I type this.
If you see it for a couple of bucks then I think it'll be worth it for the featurette, even though the film itself isn't worth a single cent. The photo gallery is alright too.

Actually, I forgot to mention another reason why I hate NOTLD30. In England we had a 4-disc boxed set released in 2002 called Trilogy Of The Dead. It's a decent package with Night, Dawn, Day (with extras) and a bonus disc with Document Of The Dead and the NOTLD 25th anniversary doc.

So I get back home with my copy, rubbing my hands in excitement as I shove disc one in the player. It's then I find out that the version of Night is NOTLD30. What the f**k? Whoever was in charge of the package obviously had no clue because if they did, they would not have included that pile of shit. In fact, if it wasn't for Document and the Night doc (which I didn't own on DVD at that point) I would've probably taken it back to the store.

[Spider]

This is a huge shitfest. I've only seen it once but that was enough...although I had it on DVD two different times. My second DVD was an attempt to watch it again but I just couldn't bring myself to do so. I traded it off eventually.

[EvilNed]

Actually, I forgot to mention another reason why I hate NOTLD30. In England we had a 4-disc boxed set released in 2002 called Trilogy Of The Dead. It's a decent package with Night, Dawn, Day (with extras) and a bonus disc with Document Of The Dead and the NOTLD 25th anniversary doc.


Strange. We have that exact same box in Sweden. I got it, infact. It's the one with the Zombie hand up front, right? Coming out of the ground? If so, our version of Night is the good ol' classic.

But on our Bonus Disc of the Dead (woooo, scary!) we get Document of the Dead and the Argento Cut of Dawn. No Night 25th doc. Which sucks, because I tried watching the Argento cut the other week and the transfer is so horrible that you just can't help but thinking "I could be watching this film in much better quality if I just change the disc...".

[krakenslayer]

Strange. We have that exact same box in Sweden. I got it, infact. It's the one with the Zombie hand up front, right? Coming out of the ground? If so, our version of Night is the good ol' classic.

But on our Bonus Disc of the Dead (woooo, scary!) we get Document of the Dead and the Argento Cut of Dawn. No Night 25th doc. Which sucks, because I tried watching the Argento cut the other week and the transfer is so horrible that you just can't help but thinking "I could be watching this film in much better quality if I just change the disc...".

It's a different box set: http://www.amazon.com/Trilogy-Dead-Anniversary-Document-Documentary/dp/B0000649KM

[darth los]

This is a huge shitfest..... I had it on DVD two different times.




Now if these aren't two of the most contradictory statements I've ever seen put in one sentence. :lol:








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[C5NOTLD]

I agree with you. They could have found a suitable body double for Duane Jones and with a bit of creative camerawork and editing, fleshed out the Beekman's diner scene to be shown in flashback while Ben narrates.

.

I agree. There is a large number of people who work in the film industry today, at effects houses, who are fans of the film and nearly would have offered their talents for next to nothing to create the special effects to bring that scene to life. We can complain about the new music, added scenes, makeup, etc..... but the one thing that really disappointed me was lack of the Beekman's diner scene with explosion which could have been done.

If someone came to me today and said do you want to update Night Of The Living Dead - the most imortant update would be that diner scene.
There were so many cool possibilities with that scene that were lost.




p.s. i hope 1 day Russo or Streiner reads these blogs and know what a bunch of hacks they are,,,long live GAR the real visionary!!!:clown:

They dropped the ball with the 30th anniversary but both Russo and Streiner had a huge impact and contributions to the original film which thankfully they will be remembered for.

The original Night Of The Living Dead was a film where all the stars lined up just right for one moment in time. The talents, skill, creativity, and passion of all those involved came together and made a classic as a dedicated team. That was a rare thing in 1967 let alone today on a film. Having Romero as the director, and an amazing editor, was the game changer that made what could have been a good film great.


My solution to the 30th anniversary is just to watch the original classic :cool:

[darth los]

If someone came to me today and said do you want to update Night Of The Living Dead - the most imortant update would be that diner scene.
There were so many cool possibilities with that scene that were lost.
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That has to be hands down the most talked about/asked for off camera event in the entire series. There's nothing I'd rather see more than what Ben described. Prequel anyone? it sure beats another remake.













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[DjfunkmasterG]

You think your pissed, you should ask Anchor Bay. They put up the $300K to make it thinking Romero was involved, when they learned he wasn't and saw the final cut... lets just say they weren't too happy about it.

[darth los]

You think your pissed, you should ask Anchor Bay. They put up the $300K to make it thinking Romero was involved, when they learned he wasn't and saw the final cut... lets just say they weren't too happy about it.


Well, it seems as if the tradition of screwing people over NOTLD is alive and well. It's like an American tradition already, 41 years and counting.....













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[Spider]

Now if these aren't two of the most contradictory statements I've ever seen put in one sentence. :lol:

I could've been descriptive about that one. :lol:

The first DVD I owned of it about five years ago was before I saw the movie. I heard that it was bad but wanted to see it for myself. I watched it & thought it was a huge turd. Traded it off shortly afterwards. Years later(later last year) I saw it again randomly at K-Mart for $5 so I decided to pick it up because I was collecting different VHS/DVDs of the Dead films. I figured I might as well because it was only $5 & also figured that I may want to give it another watch. I ended up never watching it & just getting rid of it about six months later in addition to some of the other versions of the Dead films I acquired because I'm moving in about a month & needed to get rid of some stuff. :)

[DubiousComforts]

I agree. There is a large number of people who work in the film industry today, at effects houses, who are fans of the film and nearly would have offered their talents for next to nothing to create the special effects to bring that scene to life. We can complain about the new music, added scenes, makeup, etc..... but the one thing that really disappointed me was lack of the Beekman's diner scene with explosion which could have been done.
If the Beekman's Diner scene was to be done today, utilizing CGI effects in any way, shape or form would be grounds for murdering the guilty parties.

The only way to do this scene right is to get one's hands dirty with some 35mm film, mortician's wax, Bosco and low-budget ingenuity.

And for God's sake, bring Regis and Tony back to blow up that damn tanker.

[C5NOTLD]

If the budget could handle it live is always better but cgi has come a long way and with the right FX house behind the project it could be effective both in looks and cost.

But even going back to when the 30th anniversary was done - They could have picked up a qualified FX house for the Beekman diner scene. Reminds me of the Tanker from Terminator 2 - full size tanker mixed with miniature tanker then mixed the live explosion in with some enhanced cgi explosion. Would have been better than the wandering zombies that were filmed on the road around a crashed car. Unfortunately what we saw of the 35mm film, mortician's wax, and Bosco in the 30th version didn't work too well.

Seeing Regis Survinski and Tony Pantanella blow up a tanker would have been :cool: and I would have paid double to see that!