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SRP76
15-Jul-2009, 02:14 AM
Found this on the front of the news page:


Iran: Few words for China but plenty for Germany
Published: 7/14/09, 4:25 PM EDT
By REBECCA SANTANA
CAIRO (AP) - Iran has reacted with outrage over the stabbing death of an Egyptian woman in a German courthouse, calling it a sign of racism against Muslims, yet has said little about China's crackdown on Uighur Muslims - a silence some leading Iranian clerics have criticized.

The differing reaction from a country that portrays itself as a defender of Islam worldwide is a sign of how highly Iran values its political and economic ties with China and how Tehran is trying to deflect attention following its own crackdown on protesters after the country's disputed presidential election.

Iran has been one of the most vocal countries criticizing Germany in the wake of Marwa al-Sherbini's death. The pregnant 31-year-old Egyptian was stabbed 18 times in a Dresden court July 1 by a man she was scheduled to testify against for allegedly calling her a "terrorist." When he tried to protect her, her husband was stabbed by the attacker and shot by court security.

Some 1,500 Iranian women gathered in front of the German Embassy in Tehran on Tuesday chanting "Death to the enemy of hijab" - a reference to the hijab, or Islamic headscarf that al-Sherbini wore, Iran's state news agency reported.


Judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Shahroudi called for German court officials who were present when al-Sherbini was killed to face trial, state-run Press TV reported. Iran's ambassador to UNESCO complained to the organization's director over what he called the desecration of Islamic values in European countries.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday called al-Sherbini's death "absolute proof of the brutality of the German government."

Iran is one of the few Muslim countries to speak out on the China crackdown on Uighurs in the country's western Xinjiang region. More than 180 people have died in violence that began there July 5. The Uighurs complain about government restrictions on their religion and accuse it of trying to erase their language and culture.

But Iran's official criticism of China has been mild, limited to a phone call Sunday by Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki to his Chinese counterpart to discuss the clashes and raise Islamic countries' "concern." Mottaki also denounced "foreign meddling" aimed at "undermining China's stability," implicitly blaming the West for the Xinjiang unrest.

Some Iranian clerics have called for Iran to take a stronger stance, in comments that often seem to also be criticizing Iran's own conduct at the same time. Following June 12 elections, Iran suppressed widespread protests claiming fraud in Ahmadinejad's victory. Police and baton-wielding Basij militiamen assaulted demonstrators, arresting hundreds in a crackdown that left at least 20 protesters dead.

In a statement carried on his Web site Sunday, Ayatollah Yusef Saanei denounced the Chinese government's "aggressive and inhuman stance." But his comments appeared intentionally phrased to point at Iran's crackdown as well.

"Is this how they claim to be willing to join the international community, by putting down the protests of their citizens and answering their cries for justice with electric batons ... bringing out the militia and silencing any protests," said Saanei, who has criticized the Iranian government directly in other statements.

Another senior cleric, Ayatollah Nouri Hamedani said the situation in China was an even greater crime than what had happened in Germany and said Iran should not remain silent, Press TV reported Monday.

"That's pretty much pointing a finger at their own regime," said Michael Wahid Hanna, an Iran analyst at the New York-based Century Foundation.

In denouncing Germany so vocally, analysts say Iran seeks to divert domestic and international attention following the election. Many Western countries, including Germany, criticized Iran for its suppression of protesters.

Attacking Germany is a way to portray the Western world as "anti-Islamic" and drum up sympathy within Iran, said Alireza Nader, an Iran specialist with the Washington-based RAND Corp. think tank, although he questioned whether the tactic would work with an already disillusioned Iranian public.

But Iran "can't really afford to antagonize China at this point because China is one of the few world powers who really has cordial relations with Iran," said Nader.

China has used its clout on the U.N. Security Council in part to prevent harsh sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program, and China's status as Iran's single largest trading partner make needling China a much riskier affair. When protests were heating up in Tehran over the legitimacy of Ahmadinejad's win, Chinese President Hu Jintao congratulated him on his victory.

I laughed my ass off at this blatant display of stupidity. A wacko private citizen flips the fuck out and kills someone, and Iran's head fucktard thinks:


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday called al-Sherbini's death "absolute proof of the brutality of the German government."


So suddenly every swinging dick in Germany is part of the government?

Mike70
15-Jul-2009, 02:35 AM
in a perfect world places like iran would sink into the ocean.

the president of iran registers as a cartoon character to me, you know? he is so ridiculous that i refuse to believe that he is an actual human being.

EvilNed
15-Jul-2009, 02:04 PM
Yar, I hate them Germans. Always stabbing muslims, they are! In courthouses, no less!

Neil
15-Jul-2009, 03:59 PM
in a perfect world places like iran would sink into the ocean.

the president of iran registers as a cartoon character to me, you know? he is so ridiculous that i refuse to believe that he is an actual human being.

An interesting read - http://mehr.org/HumanRightsinIran07.pdf

AcesandEights
15-Jul-2009, 04:49 PM
It could've been worse. It could have been an East German :eek:

Mike70
15-Jul-2009, 06:30 PM
An interesting read - http://mehr.org/HumanRightsinIran07.pdf

interesting and depressing. religion as part of the govt. is a bad, bad, bad idea.

C5NOTLD
15-Jul-2009, 09:19 PM
Germans are good as long as you don't mention the war. :D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Zippozeppo/fawlty.jpg

Marie
16-Jul-2009, 01:15 AM
I don't quite get the comparison. Yes, the courtroom incident was tragic, but in many Muslim countries a woman can't even testify against a man in court.

M_

strayrider
16-Jul-2009, 04:44 AM
You have got to be sh*tting me.

WARNING: graphic violence.

http://executions.justsickshit.com/2007/10/30/execution-by-stoning-alive-and-well-in-middle-east-post-taliban/

http://www.rawa.org/murder-w.htm

Note: I'm not advocating either of these sites, simply posting links to vids and pics of radical Islam in action, nor am I condemning the peaceful followers of Islam.

:stunned:

-stray-

SRP76
16-Jul-2009, 04:49 AM
I'm wondering who's next on the "they are evil, and hate Islam" list.

So far, we've got the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany as "evil". Who will Iran deem "evil" next?

I think some Muslim got run over by a car in rural Bolivia last Tuesday. So I'll put 12 cents on "Bolivia" in the Evil Pool.

Neil
16-Jul-2009, 10:15 AM
I'm wondering who's next on the "they are evil, and hate Islam" list.

So far, we've got the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany as "evil". Who will Iran deem "evil" next?

I think some Muslim got run over by a car in rural Bolivia last Tuesday. So I'll put 12 cents on "Bolivia" in the Evil Pool.

I do find it strange that you can say anything you like about Christianity knowing that nothing will happen.

However, say the slightest thing against Islam and you're a marked man. Is their God/faith so weak it can't be questioned?

krakenslayer
16-Jul-2009, 10:52 AM
I do find it strange that you can say anything you like about Christianity knowing that nothing will happen.

However, say the slightest thing against Islam and you're a marked man. Is their God/faith so weak it can't be questioned?

Like I've said many times before, extremist Muslims have a medieval mindset - where Christians once had crusades, witch burning and Spanish Inquisitions (and earlier, the anhilliation of Pagan religions across Europe), the likes of the Iranian government, Al Quaeda and the Taleban currently have Jihad, suicide bombings, beheading videos and a tendency to blame everyone but themselves.