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SymphonicX
18-Aug-2009, 08:33 AM
Science ponders 'zombie attack'
By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent, BBC News



There has been a revival of the zombie film in recent years
If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.

That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada.

They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures.

The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress.

In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite.

But there is a serious side to the work.

In some respects, a zombie "plague" resembles a lethal rapidly-spreading infection.

My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever

Professor Neil Ferguson
In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win?

Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: "We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies.

"We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions."

On his university web page, the mathematics professor at Ottawa University says the question mark distinguishes him from Robert Smith, lead singer of rock band The Cure.

To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose "classic" slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films.

"While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals," the researchers said.

Back for good?

Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable.

In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to "hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often".

They added: "It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble."

According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that "zombies can come back to life".

But they say that their work has parallels with, for example, the spread of ideas.

The study has been welcomed by one of the world's leading disease specialists, Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisors on controlling the spread of swine flu.

"The paper considers something that many of us have worried about - particularly in our younger days - of what would be a feasible way of tackling an outbreak of a rapidly spreading zombie infection," said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London.

However he thinks that some of the assumptions made in the paper might be unduly alarmist.

"My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days," he said.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8206280.stm

Ryan
18-Aug-2009, 11:11 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8206280.stm

And the conclusion is we are doomed :lol:

SymphonicX
18-Aug-2009, 12:37 PM
posted this in general interests! Mods - we need a merge!

MikePizzoff
18-Aug-2009, 12:54 PM
So this university is wasting money on a study that has already been determined in film many years ago, and otherwise could more than likely be figured out by most 9-year-olds?

krakenslayer
18-Aug-2009, 01:04 PM
So this university is wasting money on a study that has already been determined in film many years ago, and otherwise could more than likely be figured out by most 9-year-olds?

Nah, it's just a semi-humorous chapter in a specialist academic book that uses zombies as a "fun" example in order to illustrate an infection that spreads from person to person.

I'm more interested in this:


Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake)

:confused:

Mike70
18-Aug-2009, 03:35 PM
I'm more interested in this:



:confused:



this is buried in the middle of the article:


On his university web page, the mathematics professor at Ottawa University says the question mark distinguishes him from Robert Smith, lead singer of rock band The Cure.

WTF?

krakenslayer
18-Aug-2009, 03:53 PM
this is buried in the middle of the article:



WTF?

I wonder if his name is pronounced like a question - Ron Burgundy/teleprompter style. :D

sandrock74
18-Aug-2009, 04:48 PM
I could take Professor Smith? more seriously if he had just added an "s" to his surname, like Robert Smiths. I don't trust people with stuff like ? or ! in their names.

bassman
18-Aug-2009, 05:07 PM
I could take Professor Smith? more seriously if he had just added an "s" to his surname, like Robert Smiths. I don't trust people with stuff like ? or ! in their names.

:lol:

Have you ever met someone else with a ? or ! in their name?

Trin
18-Aug-2009, 10:17 PM
Did you mean that as a question Bassman? Or is "name?" another word that I'm not familiar with and the question mark is to distinguish it from "name".

Am I even asking the right Bassman, or did I ask "Bassman?"?

krakenslayer
18-Aug-2009, 10:19 PM
Did you mean that as a question Bassman? Or is "name?" another word that I'm not familiar with and the question mark is to distinguish it from "name".

Am I even asking the right Bassman, or did I ask "Bassman?"?

:lol::lol::lol:

EvilNed
18-Aug-2009, 10:20 PM
I'll have whatever he's smoking!

Skippy911sc
18-Aug-2009, 10:30 PM
Leave it to the Canadians to come up with a great worthwhile study of something that could be considered of vital importance. :)

blind2d
19-Aug-2009, 02:06 AM
All this time I could've been walking around with "Murdoc!!!" I'll have to look into that... - Murdoc
Hey, hush you! Anyway.... yeah, we alaready knew all this... sometimes scientists... I don't know, man... I'm tired...

rgc2005
19-Aug-2009, 03:17 AM
Seriously, I liked the fact that a serious academic work used slow moving 'Romero' zombies just to give us a fighting chance.

FYI, Twitter went nuts with a 'Swine Flu / Zombie' hoax based on this article.

Slain
19-Aug-2009, 08:20 AM
I think (and hope) a zombie outbreak would play out like an episode of the cartoon Megalocalpse. Just total anarchy with wall to wall killing and senseless destruction. Deathlok rules! :hyper::hyper:

Trin
19-Aug-2009, 03:02 PM
I think (and hope) a zombie outbreak would play out like an episode of the cartoon Megalocalpse. Just total anarchy with wall to wall killing and senseless destruction. Deathlok rules! :hyper::hyper:... and some seriously messed up kinda hot chicks.

"Then how do you explain all the dead unicorns?"

Dethklok does rule!!

bassman
19-Aug-2009, 03:25 PM
I think (and hope) a zombie outbreak would play out like an episode of the cartoon Megalocalpse. Just total anarchy with wall to wall killing and senseless destruction. Deathlok rules! :hyper::hyper:

Ya know....I love adult swim and most of the shows that are aired during the program, but I just don't "get" Matalocalypse. For some reason it's just not funny to me. I don't understand it.:confused:

AcesandEights
19-Aug-2009, 03:38 PM
Wow, a lot of people know I'm into zombies, I must have had half a dozen people tell me about, email me or contact me in some other way about this topic.

And yes, the best part is that someone thought it was necessary and reasonable to add a question mark to the end of his name :rolleyes: To me, that makes him worse than name-hypehnaters :p

krakenslayer
19-Aug-2009, 04:53 PM
Ya know....I love adult swim and most of the shows that are aired during the program, but I just don't "get" Matalocalypse. For some reason it's just not funny to me. I don't understand it.:confused:

I think to "get" it you really have to understand the extreme metal subculture in all its absurdity. If it's not something you're familiar with, then I imagine it would just fall flat - like a science teacher telling chemistry jokes to a class full of bored school pupils.

bassman
19-Aug-2009, 04:56 PM
I think to "get" it you really have to understand the extreme metal subculture in all its absurdity. If it's not something you're familiar with, then I imagine it would just fall flat - like a science teacher telling chemistry jokes to a class full of bored school pupils.

I guess.....

Metal isn't usually my thing, but it seems to me that I should "get" the comedy since I get the absurd comedy in other Adult Swim shoes. I dunno....

I've jacked the thread enough. Back to the outbreak.:p

Slain
20-Aug-2009, 02:29 AM
Megalocalpse symbolizes the power of anarchy to over turn the best laid plans of the state and the corporation--outrageously illustrated by the secret cabal trying to control Deathlok for their own ends. The band members of Deathlok perfectly exemplifies how uncaring and out of touch the wealth elites are with the majority of humanity. Zombies in a Deathlok-Romero type universe will defy the abilities the state to suppress them, the elites ability to escape being devoured, and confound any faction that tries to turn the zombie outbreak to their own advantage.