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PJoseph
28-Aug-2009, 05:53 AM
I guess they'll just let him make whatever he wants. Seems like an odd choice, since it's been remade once already.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007857.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Oh well.

pJ

clanglee
28-Aug-2009, 08:16 AM
Is it a remake of the original or a remake of the remake? Or maybe it's a reimagining of the remake of the original. :confused: . . . . . Now I've gone and confused myself.

MoonSylver
28-Aug-2009, 08:20 AM
Great, now we get to see the Blob's troubled childhood & how messed up his family life was (or something...) :bored:

(Honestly, the 1st remake I really dug. Do we NEED another? :rockbrow: )

MinionZombie
28-Aug-2009, 10:52 AM
Great, now we get to see the Blob's troubled childhood & how messed up his family life was (or something...)

:lol:

...

RZ really needs to make T-Rex, nuff said.

bassman
28-Aug-2009, 12:45 PM
Great, now we get to see the Blob's troubled childhood & how messed up his family life was (or something...)


That's what made that movie better than the original.:D

I wish he would go back to something of his own, but i'll give this a shot.

ProfessorChaos
28-Aug-2009, 02:34 PM
i recall having a vhs copy of the blob remake as a kid, and it was always fun to watch...been a long time since i've seen it, so i'm not sure how well it's held up.

it'll be interesting to see what ol' RZ does with this one...

btw, doesn't H2 come out this weekend? think i'm going to check that one out...

darth los
28-Aug-2009, 03:28 PM
i recall having a vhs copy of the blob remake as a kid, and it was always fun to watch...been a long time since i've seen it, so i'm not sure how well it's held up.

it'll be interesting to see what ol' RZ does with this one...

btw, doesn't H2 come out this weekend? think i'm going to check that one out...



I'm shooting over to see it right after work. I've dug most of his stuff so far so sign me up for this one.


There are certian director's that you know pretty much what you're going to get when they come out with a new film. Tarentino is one of them and RZ is another. Big fan's of both by the way. And interestingly both of their film making styles are either love em' or hate em'.







:cool:

slickwilly13
28-Aug-2009, 04:38 PM
I thought someone else was already working on the remake.

MinionZombie
28-Aug-2009, 06:08 PM
Like bassman said, I'd prefer to see RZ do something original now (although from all the pics and NUMEROUS clips I've seen online, H2 is clearly RZ's very own Halloween movie, and most definitely NOT a remake of the 1980s Halloween 2) ... I want T-Rex, damnit.

Still though, being a big RZ fan, I'll be there to see his version of The Blob.

Speaking of which, I finally saw the remake a while ago after wanting to see it for years (saw the original many years ago now), and it was really good fun.

Danny
28-Aug-2009, 06:41 PM
the blob is the lamest monster movie, id rather see zombie make a godzilla movie.


or pumpkinhead 3.

bassman
28-Aug-2009, 07:19 PM
Speaking of which, I finally saw the remake a while ago after wanting to see it for years (saw the original many years ago now), and it was really good fun.

This is the one from the eighties? With Shawnee Smith and one of the Dillon brothers, correct?

That one is a fun cheeseball, I think. And Shawnee Smith is easy on the eyes. In a strange way, though. Never been able to put my finger on it.:rockbrow:

MinionZombie
28-Aug-2009, 08:23 PM
This is the one from the eighties? With Shawnee Smith and one of the Dillon brothers, correct?

That one is a fun cheeseball, I think. And Shawnee Smith is easy on the eyes. In a strange way, though. Never been able to put my finger on it.:rockbrow:

Yeah the one from the 80s ... 1988. Enjoyable movie - and hell yeah, Shawnee Smith is fit, but sometimes not ... don't know what it is ... fit in Becker, not all that fit in SAW 2 & 3 ... fit in Blob'88 though.

Interestingly, according to IMDb, the director of Blob '88 (Chuck Russell) also directing Nightmare on Elm Street 3. :)


or pumpkinhead 3.

It's already been done, by Jake "Evil Aliens/Doghouse" West:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780593/

There's even a fourth Pumpkinhead ... it's like Hellraiser sequels this, go away and come back and there's a whole pack of the fuckers!

krakenslayer
29-Aug-2009, 01:14 AM
Yeah, he's remaking The Blob... without the blob. Now there's a guy who thinks outside the box! :rolleyes:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42184 :rockbrow:

MoonSylver
29-Aug-2009, 01:15 AM
the blob is the lamest monster movie, id rather see zombie make a godzilla movie.

Oddly, the EXACT SAME thought occurred to me this AM. If RZ were to do a Godzilla flick, I have an odd feeling it would be 110% kick ass...& I don't know why...:)

slickwilly13
29-Aug-2009, 03:32 AM
Yeah, he's remaking The Blob... without the blob. Now there's a guy who thinks outside the box! :rolleyes:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42184 :rockbrow:

Its going to be a blob of shit.


A non red jello blob could work. The blob from the '80's was not jelly, but more tissue/flesh-like, I guess is a good way to put it. I remember a story about a man with cancer who could not die. The cancer transformered his body into a flesh eating blob-like monster. Another could be the nanotech theory about dangerous blobs.

Back off on the nanotech story Rob Z., I am calling that one for me.

DubiousComforts
29-Aug-2009, 04:25 AM
"That gigantic Jello-looking thing might have been scary to audiences in the 1950s, but people would laugh now."

Sort of like the way it's laughable that anyone takes a guy named "Zombie" seriously?

clanglee
29-Aug-2009, 04:30 AM
"That gigantic Jello-looking thing might have been scary to audiences in the 1950s, but people would laugh now."

Sort of like the way it's laughable that anyone takes a guy named "Zombie" seriously?

What? Is he wrong here? I agree with RZ here, people today would indeed find the original blob hokey and unscary. Hell. . I did too. But I must admit I got a bit jumpy watching the remake. .. .I love that movie.

DubiousComforts
29-Aug-2009, 05:05 AM
What? Is he wrong here? I agree with RZ here, people today would indeed find the original blob hokey and unscary.
"Hokey" and "unscary" when compared to what? Rob Zombie films?

The Blob was produced independently by a small company in eastern PA that specialized in religious and educational films, yet they still turned out a very effective monster flick while lacking the funds that "Zombie" is typically given to piss away while copying other people's work. It was a time when filmmakers had to be innovative, and one can state with reasonable certainly that Rob Zombie has little idea what it means to be an innovative filmmaker. Which of his films, if any, will still be remembered as anything but complete garbage 50 years from now?

Hey, you asked... ;)

Doc
29-Aug-2009, 07:13 PM
I'm sure if he does change the Blob, it'll be some kind of intergalactic redneck from Planet Skullfu*ker instead, of the giant purple Jello monster we all know and love.:rolleyes::confused:

Bone Daddy
29-Aug-2009, 07:35 PM
Will this new Blob run amok in a trailer park?

EvilNed
29-Aug-2009, 08:51 PM
"That gigantic Jello-looking thing might have been scary to audiences in the 1950s, but people would laugh now."

Sort of like the way it's laughable that anyone takes a guy named "Zombie" seriously?

While we do practice freedom of speech and all that stuff, I just find your comment on Rob Zombie as kind of a childish retort?

"You suck!"

"Yeah? Well, you suck more!"

:p

Of course films age! Anyone who doesn't acknowledge this should take a closer look at films. The Blob from the fifties was not only a extremely low budget (for the 50's, even!) horror film, it was also made in an era when horrorfilms weren't actually that scary. Parents would let their kids watch then, and remember this was in the 50's! A parent from the 50's (ultra conservative by our standards) letting their kids watch horror films at the cinema kinda shows just how these films were viewed.

I'm not saying it's a bad film, that's an altogether different story that none of us can actually give an answer too. All I'm saying is that the film has definetly aged, and Rob Zombie merely pointed out this fact. When I watch horror films from the 50's today, I don't watch them to get scared. I watch them because I enjoy cheese.

DubiousComforts
29-Aug-2009, 11:53 PM
While we do practice freedom of speech and all that stuff, I just find your comment on Rob Zombie as kind of a childish retort?
Well, it's not a retort because Rob Zombie has been nowhere present in this thread.

But do you actually think it's anything but childish and perhaps borderline retarded that not one but two adults go by the professional/family name of "Zombie"? Anyone that craves attention that badly should just give him or herself the surname "Hitler" or "Satan" and then they're guaranteed to receive plenty of attention.

It's too bad if this opinion boils anyone else's bottom, but I can't take Rob Zombie seriously. He is the last person to be pointing out how badly classic films have aged when his own crappy movies aren't the least bit "edgy" or "frightening" or whatever other adjective allegedly accounts for their existence in the first place. It's about as relevant as pointing out that Tales of Hoffman or the original King Kong look "fake."

EvilNed
30-Aug-2009, 12:41 AM
I usually judge a man by what he does, and not by what he calls himself. As his comment about the original Blob, I think it is valid. Again, nobody today would watch it for the scares. They'd watch it for the cheese. It was scary back then, but it's not now. Things age, you know.

DubiousComforts
30-Aug-2009, 09:39 PM
I usually judge a man by what he does, and not by what he calls himself. As his comment about the original Blob, I think it is valid. Again, nobody today would watch it for the scares. They'd watch it for the cheese. It was scary back then, but it's not now. Things age, you know.
So a 50-year old film with 20-something year old actors portraying teenagers has "aged"? No shit, you don't say. Do you suppose the original premise was even meant to be "scary"?

But you know, it's not an original sentiment for some trendy bad-boy filmmaker to point out the flaws inherent to the property he is remaking. It's been going on for decades and typically signifies the epic fail that is to come (remember the big-budget Godzilla remake?) Why doesn't Rob Zombie break tradition and point out the best aspects of the original film which lead him to believe a remake is a good idea?

Nothing exists in a vacuum, and the asshat name is simply part of the whole bad attitude persona. Judging the man by what he does, Rob Zombie has helped to turn the genre into something to loathe rather than something to enjoy. It's to the point that I'll avoid conventions unless absolutely necessary due to the trashy element that has embraced horror films as its own. Zombie should have just stuck to music because it's far easier to avoid him in that playground.

bassman
30-Aug-2009, 09:49 PM
Zombie should have just stuck to music because it's far easier to avoid him in that playground.

It's just as easy to not watch a film as it is to not listen to a song.:shifty:

Anywho....bring it on! I like 2 of Zombie's 3 films.

DubiousComforts
30-Aug-2009, 09:55 PM
It's just as easy to not watch a film as it is to not listen to a song.:shifty:
Did you miss the part about "nothing exists in a vacuum"?

It's far easier to avoid Zombie's music than movies. Since there is much more at stake economically, the movies tend to be forced down everyone's throat. Having to sit through the Halloween 2 trailer before District 9 was the only damper on the entire experience, though I suppose it probably helped other audience members to be shown shit prior to a really excellent film.

bassman
30-Aug-2009, 09:58 PM
Nobody is forcing you to watch a film. You think it doesn't look good....don't watch it. It's rather simple, really.

And sitting through a bad trailer isn't being forced, either. If I had a nickel for everytime I've seen a bad trailer I would be rich. That goes for everyone. There's a bad trailer in front of just about every film.

DubiousComforts
30-Aug-2009, 10:17 PM
Nobody is forcing you to watch a film. You think it doesn't look good....don't watch it. It's rather simple, really.
By the same token, if you don't care for my views on Rob Zombie and the way in which his films have deteriorated the genre, just don't read the post. Nobody is forcing you to read or reply to what I've written.

EvilNed
30-Aug-2009, 10:32 PM
But you know, it's not an original sentiment for some trendy bad-boy filmmaker to point out the flaws inherent to the property he is remaking. It's been going on for decades and typically signifies the epic fail that is to come (remember the big-budget Godzilla remake?) Why doesn't Rob Zombie break tradition and point out the best aspects of the original film which lead him to believe a remake is a good idea?

Kinda agree, but I don't know. I think the statement he made would have been even less interesting had he actually said how he "grew up with that film and loved it and wanted to do respect with it through this remake". I'd rather have him speak his mind, actually. As for the original being meant as scary when it was first released? Yeah, I do think so. At least for that days standards.


Nothing exists in a vacuum, and the asshat name is simply part of the whole bad attitude persona. Judging the man by what he does, Rob Zombie has helped to turn the genre into something to loathe rather than something to enjoy. It's to the point that I'll avoid conventions unless absolutely necessary due to the trashy element that has embraced horror films as its own. Zombie should have just stuck to music because it's far easier to avoid him in that playground.

I also really, really hate modern horror-flicks, but I don't really blame that on Rob Zombie. I blame it on the fact that nowadays horror is big money and so few low-budget horror films are made, like back in the days. These days, horror films are pretty much just like summer blockbusters. Big budgeted, too much cgi and loaded with fake scares. Oh, and to save time the scenes are almost always short and the editing fast... So no tension is built. Blergh,

C5NOTLD
30-Aug-2009, 11:12 PM
Not another Remake! :annoyed:

The Halloween 2 remake/re-imagining /H2 or whatever they call it now tanked at the box office with a opening in 3rd place - For a Halloween film not good.

Maybe that will slow down remakes all around. I hope so. I've stopped going to any remakes. I'm tired of them and would enjoy seeing Hollywood get creative and actually produce a original script for a change.

DubiousComforts
30-Aug-2009, 11:30 PM
Kinda agree, but I don't know. I think the statement he made would have been even less interesting had he actually said how he "grew up with that film and loved it and wanted to do respect with it through this remake". I'd rather have him speak his mind, actually. As for the original being meant as scary when it was first released? Yeah, I do think so. At least for that days standards.
Well it certainly doesn't jive with Zombie's bad-boy rebel image to actually be thoughtful now, does it? I don't see this as speaking his mind as much as being obstinate to garner attention.

The original Blob was made for a younger market that at the time was embracing similar independent films like I Was A Teenage Werewolf. A low-budget flick with teenage protagonists at odds not only with a monster but with adult authority figures was a very profitable scenario when compared to the bloated films that Hollywood was producing. I don't think the film was intended to be scary even by 1950s standards as much as it was meant to be entertaining for its intended audience. There is the light jazzy theme song and several comedic scenes which back this up. Most likely, it was Steve McQueen's serious performance which intensified the thrilling aspects of the film and made it more believable as well as the fact that it seemed to take place right in your backyard with real characters as opposed to a bunch of military types in an exotic locale.


I also really, really hate modern horror-flicks, but I don't really blame that on Rob Zombie. I blame it on the fact that nowadays horror is big money and so few low-budget horror films are made, like back in the days. These days, horror films are pretty much just like summer blockbusters. Big budgeted, too much cgi and loaded with fake scares. Oh, and to save time the scenes are almost always short and the editing fast... So no tension is built. Blergh,
I agree with you regarding modern horror, although there are a lot of low-budget independent productions that predominantly attempt to emulate the worst the genre has to offer rather than bucking trends and serving up something new. Such is the case with torture porn where everyone is more than content to copy the lowest common denominator.

Although Rob Zombie is far from the only offender, he does deserve a lot of blame for not only setting a really poor standard for horror films as his films are seeing wide releases, but also for trying to outdo the competition in the area of remaking classic properties badly. Does this guy believe he is the John Carpenter of the current generation or something?

EvilNed
30-Aug-2009, 11:37 PM
Well it certainly doesn't jive with Zombie's bad-boy rebel image to actually be thoughtful now, does it? I don't see this as speaking his mind as much as being obstinate to garner attention.

Well, there I disagree and I can't help but thinking that how different people might percieve this comment might actually have to do with wether they like or dislike Rob Zombie. I have no beef with him, so I see it as him speaking his mind (and I'm glad that he does it, because I hate textbook answers).



I agree with you regarding modern horror, although there are a lot of low-budget independent productions that predominantly attempt to emulate the worst the genre has to offer rather than bucking trends and serving up something new. Such is the case with torture porn where everyone is more than content to copy the lowest common denominator.

Although Rob Zombie is far from the only offender, he does deserve a lot of blame for not only setting a really poor standard for horror films as his films are seeing wide releases, but also for trying to outdo the competition in the area of remaking classic properties badly. Does this guy believe he is the John Carpenter of the current generation or something?

That, I do not know. What I do know is that the John Carpenter of our generation can't be found opening at number one (or even three) at the boxoffice so close to summer season. ;)

DubiousComforts
30-Aug-2009, 11:55 PM
so I see it as him speaking his mind (and I'm glad that he does it, because I hate textbook answers).
And there's the problem: pointing out what is wrong with the property being remade is the typical snarky filmmaker textbook response. I would certainly give Rob Zombie credit for making more thoughtful comments if he indeed could demonstrate the ability to actually make some thoughtful comments.


The Halloween 2 remake/re-imagining /H2 or whatever they call it now tanked at the box office with a opening in 3rd place - For a Halloween film not good.

Maybe that will slow down remakes all around. I hope so. I've stopped going to any remakes. I'm tired of them and would enjoy seeing Hollywood get creative and actually produce a original script for a change.
Rob Zombie will be back and like The Devil's Rejects, his next film will have some snarky commentary directed at those that failed to understand his delicate genius.

C5NOTLD
31-Aug-2009, 12:40 AM
What I do know is that the John Carpenter of our generation can't be found opening at number one (or even three) at the boxoffice so close to summer season. ;)

The John Carpenter of our generation? :stunned: Blasphemy :eek:

There is only 1 John Carpenter.:cool:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/legolaspapi/bucketheadwithjohncarpenter.jpg

DubiousComforts
31-Aug-2009, 01:09 AM
The John Carpenter of our generation? :stunned: Blasphemy :eek:

There is only 1 John Carpenter.:cool:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/legolaspapi/bucketheadwithjohncarpenter.jpg
Ha, he's the guy wearing the bucket, right? ;)

EvilNed
31-Aug-2009, 01:44 AM
And there's the problem: pointing out what is wrong with the property being remade is the typical snarky filmmaker textbook response. I would certainly give Rob Zombie credit for making more thoughtful comments if he indeed could demonstrate the ability to actually make some thoughtful comments.

No, that's definetly NOT the textbook answer. The textbook answer is "I love the original and I grew up with it, and I hope I can only do respect to it with this new remake."

That's the textbook answer.

And no, I didn't mean there actually was a John Carpenter of this generation.

acealive1
31-Aug-2009, 04:32 AM
the remake of the blob from the 80's was built for a sequel, im guessing because of it not being a hit that it didnt go anywhere. who knows if it'll ever get made since halloween 2 kinda bombed. all i know is that the technology in the blob remake is begging for a proper remake.




but as fate would have it, the halloween franchise that carpenter made kinda tapered off after 2 so they tried a new gimmick for part three to draw new interest. and this franchise by rob is doing the same thing which is eerie

C5NOTLD
31-Aug-2009, 08:04 AM
so they tried a new gimmick for part three to draw new interest. and this franchise by rob is doing the same thing which is eerie

The gimmick this time around will be 3D for H3.

EvilNed
31-Aug-2009, 10:57 AM
The reason for Halloween 3 being vastly different than Halloween 1 and 2 had more to do than John Carpenter trying to draw interest. You see, he never planned a direct sequel to Halloween, not one featuring Michael Myers. His vision was a franchise of horror films, all based around Halloween and one getting released each year but with totally isolated stories. Sort off a feature film Twilight Zone thing. Hey, I think that would have been very cool. But when Halloween drew in big bucks as it did, he was "forced" to produce a sequel to Halloween.

acealive1
01-Sep-2009, 03:47 AM
The gimmick this time around will be 3D for H3.



season of the witch in 3d?!? im there

DubiousComforts
01-Sep-2009, 09:56 PM
No, that's definetly NOT the textbook answer. The textbook answer is "I love the original and I grew up with it, and I hope I can only do respect to it with this new remake."

That's the textbook answer.
Okay, now you're just being a doodie-head. Don't automatically assume that by expecting thoughtful comments, I'm looking for a mouthful of lame-ass sanctimony, either.

Perhaps in this case there are two textbook answers, but it doesn't change the fact that people are sick of remakes, sick of all the excuses that accompany remakes and sick of hacks like Rob Zombie being involved in remakes no matter how he chooses to spin it in the press. A person on another message board summed it up best by posting "what's the appeal to a film-maker in remaking a film for which they don't like the basic central conceit?"

MoonSylver
02-Sep-2009, 02:10 AM
A person on another message board summed it up best by posting "what's the appeal to a film-maker in remaking a film for which they don't like the basic central conceit?"

Because they know how to "fix" it & "make it better"...:rolleyes:

bassman
02-Sep-2009, 12:56 PM
The gimmick this time around will be 3D for H3.

But the rumor is (http://www.joblo.com/miner-for-h3d) that it'll be helmed by Steve Miner. If the name isn't familiar....he's the director of Friday the 13th Parts 2 & 3 and Halloween H20.

Oh and the Day of the Dead remake. :hurl:



Suddenly I sense that some of thos Zombie haters would rather have him back. :p

EvilNed
02-Sep-2009, 03:54 PM
While I do believe that Steve Miner dropped the ball big time with Day of the Dead, I have to say that what I hated most about the film was the script. And he didn't write that. Seriously, I doubt any director could turn that steaming pile of shit script into anything good.

Bone Daddy
04-Sep-2009, 08:26 AM
season of the witch in 3d?!? im there

Roger that. H3 seriously underrated.