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Trancelikestate
04-Sep-2009, 10:16 PM
i've heard rumors around, but cant find anything solid. anybody know anything? better yet, a pic???

bassman
05-Sep-2009, 03:09 AM
Last I heard....Aronofsky(Requiem For A Dream, The Wrestler, The Fountain) is set to take over the ol' cyborg cop. Usually most remakes suck, but this guy has made some great films....so I'll definitely give it a chance.

"Dead or alive you're coming with me":D

kortick
05-Sep-2009, 03:47 AM
Is Frank Miller involved in any way?

EvilNed
05-Sep-2009, 09:39 AM
Is Frank Miller involved in any way?

Let's hope not, shall we?

SymphonicX
05-Sep-2009, 11:48 AM
After Robocrap 3....Miller can stay away!

There's a teaser poster online I think, but nothing hugely exciting...

Trancelikestate
05-Sep-2009, 06:40 PM
yeah, i saw the teaser poster. i wonder what he'll look like. the costume was already extremly badass i think, what more will they do? i also thought the batman 89 keaton suit was hot and is still also one of my favs. hows the joker say it? they dont make em like they used to? haha although of course admittidly the dark knight suit is awesome.

bassman
05-Sep-2009, 07:12 PM
hows the joker say it? they dont make em like they used to?

I believe what you're looking for is "where does he get those wonderful toys?" or "Where's the Batman? He's at home, washing his tights!". :D

And yeah, the Dark Knight suit was WAY better than the Batman Begins. The Begins suit looked too much like rubber and made him look kinda fat...

Trancelikestate
05-Sep-2009, 11:56 PM
yeah, ive never liked the mask sculpt from begins. actually the joker quote i was referring to is when batman and vicki vale are hanging from the ledge and the joker starts kickin out the bricks. ;)

acealive1
07-Sep-2009, 05:40 AM
i've heard rumors around, but cant find anything solid. anybody know anything? better yet, a pic???


http://www.robocoparchive.com

bassman
07-Jan-2010, 09:42 PM
Looks like a Robocop remake might not be in the near future after all.

http://www.joblo.com/robocop-powers-down

Aronofsky wants it his way. The studio wants a 3D spectacle event film. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

Neil
11-Mar-2011, 11:44 AM
More news... http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Writer-Hired-To-Pen-The-Robocop-Reboot-23592.html

Mitchified
13-Mar-2011, 04:31 PM
After Robocrap 3....Miller can stay away!

There's a teaser poster online I think, but nothing hugely exciting...

I know this quote is ancient, but I still wanted to comment on it since the post itself has been resurrected.

Don't blame Frank Miller for Robocop 3. The studio hacked and slashed his script to the point that it was unrecognizable. They did such a bad hatchet job on it that Miller refused to allow any of his material to be used by Hollywood again. The only thing that changed his mind was Robert Rodriguez shooting a proof of concept adaptation and showing it to him to get the rights to make Sin City.

slickwilly13
13-Mar-2011, 06:18 PM
Let's not forget 300. That movie still cracks me up.

Mitchified
13-Mar-2011, 06:34 PM
Let's not forget 300. That movie still cracks me up.

I have mixed feelings on 300. It entertained me, but it felt completely different from the Frank Miller graphic novel.

I'm not defending Frank Miller on some of his stuff. To this day, I still have no idea what the hell he did to The Spirit. Five minutes into that movie I was begging Sam Jackson to shoot the guy in the face. In the comics he had the Elongated Man doing male enhancement commercials (yes, yes, I get the joke, it just wasn't that funny) and Batman killing people while Catwoman ran an escort service. He's made his share of crap. Robocop 3 just doesn't happen to be one of those things.

Neil
14-Mar-2011, 11:35 AM
I have mixed feelings on 300. It entertained me, but it felt completely different from the Frank Miller graphic novel.

I'm not defending Frank Miller on some of his stuff. To this day, I still have no idea what the hell he did to The Spirit. Five minutes into that movie I was begging Sam Jackson to shoot the guy in the face. In the comics he had the Elongated Man doing male enhancement commercials (yes, yes, I get the joke, it just wasn't that funny) and Batman killing people while Catwoman ran an escort service. He's made his share of crap. Robocop 3 just doesn't happen to be one of those things.

I love 300... Great action flick IMHO!

Neil
25-Sep-2011, 03:43 PM
Michael Fassbender wanted?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Michael-Fassbender-Wanted-For-Robocop-Remake-26942.html

bassman
25-Sep-2011, 03:46 PM
Not that I have anything against Fassbender, but I get the feeling he's going to end up being the new Christian Bale. Seemingly appearing in EVERY new film...

AcesandEights
26-Sep-2011, 06:09 PM
Q: New Robocop film?

A: I'd not buy that for a dollar.

acealive1
26-Sep-2011, 07:09 PM
there should be certain characters that should only be played by americans. robocop and captain america are two i can think of off hand.

bassman
26-Sep-2011, 07:33 PM
I don't see why some people think certain characters have to be American actors, honestly. At the end of the day, what does it matter? As long as they perform with an American accent, what's the difference really? Sure, I don't want to see Superman in any accent that isnt American because it's an American character, but it doesn't mean he can't use the correct accent and be perfect for the part. Christian Bale has done it for an entire record-breaking trilogy(two out of three so far, anyway) of films based on an American-made Superhero.

Now that I think about it....it seems most of the A-list talented actors these days aren't from America...

Mike70
26-Sep-2011, 09:00 PM
I don't see why some people think certain characters have to be American actors, honestly. At the end of the day, what does it matter? As long as they perform with an American accent, what's the difference really? Sure, I don't want to see Superman in any accent that isnt American because it's an American character, but it doesn't mean he can't use the correct accent and be perfect for the part. Christian Bale has done it for an entire record-breaking trilogy(two out of three so far, anyway) of films based on an American-made Superhero.

Now that I think about it....it seems most of the A-list talented actors these days aren't from America...

i couldn't agree more. i don't care where an actor is from as long as the american accident he is doing is good. it is even better if they can put some regionality in it. that seems to be the problem with most non-american actors when they use an american accent - they usually don't sound like they are from any particular place. i don't expect them to twang away like people from my part of the country or have a completely smooth southern accent, just a bit of something in the accent that sounds a bit regional.

acealive1
26-Sep-2011, 09:12 PM
I don't see why some people think certain characters have to be American actors, honestly. At the end of the day, what does it matter? As long as they perform with an American accent, what's the difference really? Sure, I don't want to see Superman in any accent that isnt American because it's an American character, but it doesn't mean he can't use the correct accent and be perfect for the part. Christian Bale has done it for an entire record-breaking trilogy(two out of three so far, anyway) of films based on an American-made Superhero.

Now that I think about it....it seems most of the A-list talented actors these days aren't from America...



are u serious dude? christian bale, sam worthington and colin farell are among the most popular actors and all three are not that great at hiding their accent when they're supposed to be playing americans. did i mention robocop is from detroit?


and if a director says the guy's gotta be american, then yea you might wanna just let him have his way. could u imagine if duke from GI joe woulda been played by someone with an accent that snuck through every line?



the best tho? the guy that played heavy duty in GI joe and the preacher in faster. and hugh jackman. spot on accents.

bassman
26-Sep-2011, 10:40 PM
Never had a problem with Bale's accent. His accent is perfect when he's speaking in a normal tone(American Psycho, Public Enemies), but when he starts trying to sound like a tough guy(TDK, Terminator), it starts to get a bit off. Worthington i've only seen in a few things, but thought he did fine. Ferrell? All that comes to mind right now is Miami Vice, and it was okay when he wasnt trying the tough guy routine.

Either way, there will always be good and bad, but saying that a certain character just HAS to be played by an american isn't necessary, imo. Whoever is right for the role deserves the role.

Anyone across the pond have opinions on Americans putting on English accents? Robert Downey Junior in Sherlock? Johnny Depp in From Hell? Scarlet Johansen in The Prestige? That one seemed horrible to me..

shootemindehead
27-Sep-2011, 12:51 AM
Anyone across the pond have opinions on Americans putting on English accents? Robert Downey Junior in Sherlock? Johnny Depp in From Hell? Scarlet Johansen in The Prestige? That one seemed horrible to me.

I'm not English, but awful, swful and awful.

AcesandEights
27-Sep-2011, 01:21 AM
I'm not English, but awful, swful and awful.

Blimey! Hey Guv, don't be so 'arsh. I fnk some ov us Yanks can speak da Baked Bean's English like right proper gent'men. You know? Nuff said, yeah?

(Thank you Cockney Rhyming Slang translatortron (http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/).)

shootemindehead
27-Sep-2011, 10:35 AM
Bladdy 'ell! E's gor it! Would you adam and eve it!

acealive1
27-Sep-2011, 08:52 PM
Never had a problem with Bale's accent. His accent is perfect when he's speaking in a normal tone(American Psycho, Public Enemies), but when he starts trying to sound like a tough guy(TDK, Terminator), it starts to get a bit off. Worthington i've only seen in a few things, but thought he did fine. Ferrell? All that comes to mind right now is Miami Vice, and it was okay when he wasnt trying the tough guy routine.

Either way, there will always be good and bad, but saying that a certain character just HAS to be played by an american isn't necessary, imo. Whoever is right for the role deserves the role.

Anyone across the pond have opinions on Americans putting on English accents? Robert Downey Junior in Sherlock? Johnny Depp in From Hell? Scarlet Johansen in The Prestige? That one seemed horrible to me..


watch terminator salvation when blair and marcus are by the fire and he says "im not a good guy"


i saw it in theaters and they over dubbed it for home video because his accent fell straight through

Mike70
27-Sep-2011, 09:19 PM
Blimey! Hey Guv, don't be so 'arsh. I fnk some ov us Yanks can speak da Baked Bean's English like right proper gent'men. You know? Nuff said, yeah?

(Thank you Cockney Rhyming Slang translatortron (http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/).)


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Bladdy 'ell! E's gor it! Would you adam and eve it!

this is almost like reading a chapter in a dicken's novel. :lol:

zombieking
03-Oct-2011, 10:10 AM
Dont know about how it is doing on the box office but most of the critiques has written good about it. I will surely watch it

SymphonicX
05-Oct-2011, 08:34 AM
Bit of a weird one with the accents. I can stomach a fake american like Christian Bale (who also does interviews in his american accent. Let's not forget he's not even English - he's from bloody wales!) a lot more than I can stomach an american doing a british accent. Natalie Portman in V For Vendetta was horrible.

I can't help but remember this fake sort of sitcom thing that was a carbon copy of Saved By the Bell but it was set in a college dorm or something. There was this "english" character who was basically this airheaded blonde actress doing her best to take the piss out of the accent - making herself sound like a cross between the Queen and a 16th century peasant. Horrible. Since then I kinda keep thinking about that and it's distracting.

I couldn't understand a bloody word Robert Downey Jnr said in Sherlock Holmes. Not a word. Johnny Depp can do a pretty good accent though, but its really his performances that elevate him beyond worrying about that stuff.

krisvds
05-Oct-2011, 08:39 AM
Directed by the guy who did the two 'Tropa De Elite' (Elite Squad) films?
Robocop is in good hands. Those two were smart action films. Let's hope the studio doesn't interfere too much and that they can go for the R rating.

Neil
05-Mar-2012, 08:20 AM
Looks like we have our new Officer Murphy then...

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Joel-Kinnaman-Confirmed-Robocop-Star-29783.html

bassman
05-Mar-2012, 12:04 PM
I don't know his work, but i'm still excited to see how this little experiment turns out....

Trancelikestate
05-Mar-2012, 12:11 PM
That article is funny considering robocop wasn't even filmed in Detroit.

bassman
05-Mar-2012, 12:44 PM
Bit of a weird one with the accents. I can stomach a fake american like Christian Bale (who also does interviews in his american accent. Let's not forget he's not even English - he's from bloody wales!) a lot more than I can stomach an american doing a british accent.

Does Bale still do interviews in an American accent? I thought he only did that for the press marketing of Batman Begins because he was afraid of the backlash from fans if they found out he was playing such an iconic American character? Once The Dark Knight rolled around and he had proven himself, he used his natural tongue. I suppose he was right to worry what people would think of him playing Batman. Apparently some people don't care about performance, but where you were born? :rolleyes:

Neil
12-Mar-2012, 06:28 PM
August 2013 peole - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54221

acealive1
12-Mar-2012, 08:41 PM
so is this a faithful remake to the original or a dawn 04 style "remake" ?


as i've seen hours of interview footage from the original movie..........

and isnt he a bit too tall to play the role since they wanted an average size man who didnt look intimidating at all and could actually fit into the suit

he's the same height as arnold schwarzenegger who they said was "too tall" to play the role :rolleyes:

AcesandEights
12-Mar-2012, 08:49 PM
It's a prequel. A steampunk prequel.

http://thisisnotatortoise.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/steambobbyposter.jpg
(I wish)

Honestly...looks like they're trying to a more down to earth tack on it:


In the first 'RoboCop' when Alex Murphy is shot, gunned down, then you see some hospitals and stuff and then you cut to him as RoboCop. My movie is between those two cuts. How do you make RoboCop? How do you slowly bring a guy to be a robot? How do you actually take humanity out of someone and how do you program a brain, so to speak, and how does that affect an individual?"

acealive1
12-Mar-2012, 09:29 PM
does that means the cyberdyne link will remain or actually be shown in this one? it'd be great if they let us know for sure what all of murphy is really inside the suit instead of us guessing for decades

AcesandEights
12-Mar-2012, 10:36 PM
does that means the cyberdyne link will remain or actually be shown in this one? it'd be great if they let us know for sure what all of murphy is really inside the suit instead of us guessing for decades

Wow, that's probably the most interesting possibility I've heard that could be involved in the remake. Totally forgot about all the cyberdine stuff.

Trancelikestate
13-Mar-2012, 10:37 PM
I only recall the cyberdine connection in the robocop vs terminator comics. Might be cool to see though. I'm worried about the costume. The original is so perfect.

acealive1
14-Mar-2012, 02:50 AM
I only recall the cyberdine connection in the robocop vs terminator comics. Might be cool to see though. I'm worried about the costume. The original is so perfect.


frank miller nearly wrote the endo skeleton into robocop 2

SymphonicX
16-Mar-2012, 03:21 PM
I always assumed that inside the suit was the remainder of Murphy's face, brain, and organs - which circulates fluid to the machine - and nothing else...."Total body prosthesis" was Miguel Ferrer's quote...

sorry, if that was slightly off topic and unrelated to Cyberdyne stuff.

Neil
27-Mar-2012, 08:30 AM
The new Robocop will not hide his face...

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Joel-Kimmaman-Says-RoboCop-Have-Face-30148.html



As much as I loved the original suit, it was a bit of a flaw how no one ever seemed to be able to shoot his (unprotected) jaw/mouth!

SymphonicX
27-Mar-2012, 11:44 AM
the new robocop will not hide his face...

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/joel-kimmaman-says-robocop-have-face-30148.html



as much as i loved the original suit, it was a bit of a flaw how no one ever seemed to be able to shoot his (unprotected) jaw/mouth!

no no no.

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F*ck this remake.

Christopher Jon
27-Mar-2012, 02:31 PM
It doesn't matter what they do, somebody on this forum will complain about it.

You know I'm right.

:)

acealive1
28-Mar-2012, 12:03 AM
i love the idea for a remake,but they better pull out all the stops since what they thought was too gruesome back then is tame today. dont deviate form the original formula.....or else u have dawn 04

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so most likely no one will agree with me on this....but to play robocop's partner........anne lewis..... KELLY CLARKSON. cmon, think about it, she's got that kind of look nancy allen had in the original. all innocent...and i'll be damned if she doesn't make me melt in my theater seat chewing that gum. just dont cut her hair.

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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/261e208e.jpg













http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/acealive1/e53fc63e.jpg

Neil
24-May-2012, 01:49 PM
Gary Oldman now onbaord - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55959


Oldman will be playing Norton, "the scientist who creates Robocop and finds himself torn between the ideals of the machine trying to rediscover its humanity and the callous needs of a corporation." So Oldman may serve as the movie's conscience, perhaps? It's also nice to know that Padilha isn't eschewing the whole corporation angle from the original.

Neil
07-Jun-2012, 08:25 AM
Now Samuel L. Jackson - http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Samuel-L-Jackson-Joins-RoboCop-Remake-31291.html

bassman
07-Jun-2012, 12:17 PM
Oldman and Jackson? I'm in!

Neil
08-Jun-2012, 07:25 PM
Appears Murphy's wife wears less in the new versions - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56309

acealive1
09-Jun-2012, 03:40 PM
so now its a remake with characters not in the first.....so not a remake then

bassman
13-Jun-2012, 11:56 AM
Hugh Laurie from "House" is in as the CEO of Omnicorp: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/hugh-laurie-is-in-negotiations-to-play-the-villain-in-robocop

I can't stand "House", but he seems like a pretty good choice for the role of a sleazy executive.


Also, a poster seen at a recent licensing expo:
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/robocop-movie-poster-banner-licensing-expo.jpg

Neil
13-Jun-2012, 01:14 PM
^^ I fear it's getting all glossy now! Like having Eddie Izzard as a villain :(

Going to feel too Hollywood/glossy rather than grimey!

Trancelikestate
17-Jun-2012, 08:49 AM
Look at stay puft back there. ;)

krisvds
08-Jul-2012, 03:47 AM
This will do nothing to lay 'it doesn't look grimey enough' fears at rest? Ed209 is in it though:

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Neil
08-Jul-2012, 10:59 AM
ED209 is 2-3 times the size of a tank? Really? He'll fit indoors how?

An ED209 can blow up a tank? Really? Robocop will survive that how?

krisvds
30-Jul-2012, 05:40 PM
A Belgian site posted these pics after they were quickly taken down from artist Mike Perkins' site. Apparently these are concept art and may or may not resemble what the future of law enforcement will look like:

http://www.brainfreeze.be/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/robocop1-593x1024.jpg

http://www.brainfreeze.be/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/robocop2-611x1024.jpg

Neil
30-Aug-2012, 01:17 PM
Hugh Laurie from "House" is in as the CEO of Omnicorp: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/hugh-laurie-is-in-negotiations-to-play-the-villain-in-robocop

I can't stand "House", but he seems like a pretty good choice for the role of a sleazy executive.

Scratch that! Now it's Michael Keaton!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Michael-Keaton-Replace-Hugh-Laurie-Villain-RoboCop-32708.html

glynn1988
01-Sep-2012, 06:26 AM
I am certain that the movie will be okay, as long as they retain the following things:

1) The cheesy, yet creepy commercials.

2) The OCP Robocop Directives

3) Dick Jones :)

4) ED 209

If it does not have these four things, this movie will fail.

krisvds
16-Sep-2012, 04:57 AM
If it walks like a duck ...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58358

That wont go down well with the fans.

Trancelikestate
16-Sep-2012, 09:07 AM
Oy that's piss poor.

Neil
16-Sep-2012, 08:57 PM
If it walks like a duck ...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58358

That wont go down well with the fans.
Looks more like a man in an outfit, than a cyborg?

EvilNed
16-Sep-2012, 08:59 PM
Don't know. I think it looks OK.

Cykotic
17-Sep-2012, 03:25 AM
I want to like this so much, I really do but they aren't making it easy for me. I remember sitting down and watching Robocop 1 and 2 on VHS when I was like, 8. I loved those films so much (1 more than 2) so when I first heard about the remake, I was worried, but then I heard that Joel Kinnaman, Gary Oldman and Samuel L Jackson was in it and I was excited again...

But that suit... looks like they bought it for a dollar (yep, that pun didn't work did it. for shame) it's way too much like the Batman suit and although that was perfect for Batman, it's not for Robocop.

Oh, I have this horrible feeling as well that they're gonna make this a PG-13, just because they can.

Should I give up hope now or wait for a trailer? There's just something about this that isn't sitting right with me

Danny
17-Sep-2012, 06:38 AM
the suit on the whole doesnt bug me, all techs sleeker now, as long as he moves more machine like than man thats cool, but the helmet change on the visor seems a bit pointless.

that and marvels xman cyclops gets a new costume soon thats eerily similar. thats just wierd timing.

krisvds
17-Sep-2012, 07:43 AM
I hope this new suit doesn't allow robocop to go all kung fu during the action scenes. To me part of the appeal of the old design was that it looked so unwieldy. Robocop moving very slowly and mechanically towards his targets was part of what made the character special.

I also expect lotsa CGI shenanigans. I like the Tropa de Elite films but remain sceptical about this remake. Just read an interview with Belgian actor Matthias Schoenaerts which you guys should definitely check out in 'Bullhead'. He was offered the main role at some point but refused because he felt 'it wouldn't help his carreer much'. Make of that what you will. Seems like a polite way to say the script is perhaps a bit shitty?

Neil
17-Sep-2012, 08:56 AM
I hope this new suit doesn't allow robocop to go all kung fu during the action scenes. To me part of the appeal of the old design was that it looked so unwieldy. Robocop moving very slowly and mechanically towards his targets was part of what made the character special?
Oh God! hadn't even considered that!?

Oh god no!

EDIT: Bigger/better versions of the pictures here - http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94813

Trancelikestate
17-Sep-2012, 08:14 PM
I hate to tell you this but I've already seen martial arts mentioned somewhere.

Neil
17-Sep-2012, 08:23 PM
I hate to tell you this but I've already seen martial arts mentioned somewhere.

No way! No no no!

MoonSylver
17-Sep-2012, 09:34 PM
Maybe they can just CGI the whole damn character & have him run & jump & climb walls & ceilings & shit like all of those crazy ass robots in "I, Robot" :rant: :barf:

Danny
17-Sep-2012, 09:41 PM
I hate to tell you this but I've already seen martial arts mentioned somewhere.

Do be honest that doesnt bother me. i know it does some because they felt his mechanical movements made him feel more like an unstoppable tank but for me the mechanical stuff was more important to his mannerisms and his loss of humanity yknow?

krakenslayer
17-Sep-2012, 11:36 PM
It will be dog shit.

My new cinemagoing manifesto:

Don't watch sequels to films released within the last three years. Don't watch remakes of films which were made within, or have cinematic sequels that were made within, the last 25 years. Don't watch "reboots", ever. Don't watch nostalgic "grown-up" adaptations of children's cartoons, ever. Don't support Hollywood laziness!

EvilNed
18-Sep-2012, 07:20 AM
What about the Star Trek reboot? That was kick ass.

I see no need to remake Robocop, but damn from the sound of it I just walked into an elderly home with a bunch of easily aggrivated gentlemen shaking their cane's at the television.

Danny
18-Sep-2012, 07:46 AM
What about the Star Trek reboot? That was kick ass.

I see no need to remake Robocop, but damn from the sound of it I just walked into an elderly home with a bunch of easily aggrivated gentlemen shaking their cane's at the television.

honestly i dont see the big deal either, all the more since robocop still totally holds up, ive watched it like 3 times recently since its on uk netflix and its not like the new one will show it up or something.

krisvds
18-Sep-2012, 10:06 AM
Sure, the original still holds up to this day. Even if this remake turns out to be bad, Verhoeven's film is still there to enjoy. No question there.
What bugs me though is the lack of originality in Hollywood these past years. There are way too many remakes and reimagenings and what not, and very little risk taking or fresh new ideas. Remember the first Robocop was actually pretty ballsy for an eighties action flick with themes and social critique absent amongst its peers of the time. To Verhoeven's credit the movie, though far from subtle, was pretty smart and political. That and the ultra violence is what makes the original special. If they can manage to capture the same spirit, this new one might turn out to be ok.
If it turns out a PG 13, dumb action movie with a GI joe-style robo? Consider me waving my cane at the silver screen screaming abuse ;)

krakenslayer
18-Sep-2012, 10:11 AM
What about the Star Trek reboot? That was kick ass.

I see no need to remake Robocop, but damn from the sound of it I just walked into an elderly home with a bunch of easily aggrivated gentlemen shaking their cane's at the television.

I didn't watch the Star Trek reboot. I was never a big geek for that show anyway, but if I was to watch a Star Trek film, it would be one of the originals. For me, the rewarding thing about sequels is that the accumulated canon of the existing films gives them a richer, deeper sense of background and it's interesting to explore the history and/or future of the characters and/or universe that we have become familiar with. A reboot is what happens when lazy or egocentric writers want to make sequels without having to worry about difficult stuff like continuity and consistency.

As far as I am concerned, rebooting any franchise, however good the resulting films and however many homages they crowbar in, is an insulting and sloppy practice, and I am against it on principle.

I refuse to watch these films not because I think they take away from the existence of the originals, but because every ticket bought for them is a vote in favour of Hollywood's continued preoccupation with regurgitating old movies, as long as we keep going to see them, they will keep making them, and original content will continue to be sidelined. Fuck that.

MoonSylver
18-Sep-2012, 10:04 PM
What about the Star Trek reboot? That was kick ass.

Mmmmmmm.....

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019222452/uncyclopedia/images/b/bf/Star_trek_curry.jpg

No. No it did not. :barf:

EvilNed
18-Sep-2012, 10:12 PM
The general consensus was that the Star Trek reboot was pretty damn good. It got praise from critics and fans alike. Heck, I'm one of them.

It seems to me there's a lot of hating just for the sake of it going around here. There's simply no way that the Robocop costume is that bad. But no matter how it looked, most would have hated on it because of this preconceived notion that everything about this film will suck. Which it MAY WELL DO, but maybe we should wait until we see the film until we make that call?

MoonSylver
18-Sep-2012, 10:19 PM
It seems to me there's a lot of hating just for the sake of it going around here.

If you say so. But I've been on record as saying the Star Trek film was abysmal since I saw it. And personally I was hoping Robocop was going to be good, but from what I've seen & heard so far, I have my doubts. That Robo suit is ugly as sin. :barf:

krakenslayer
18-Sep-2012, 11:47 PM
The general consensus was that the Star Trek reboot was pretty damn good. It got praise from critics and fans alike. Heck, I'm one of them.

It seems to me there's a lot of hating just for the sake of it going around here. There's simply no way that the Robocop costume is that bad. But no matter how it looked, most would have hated on it because of this preconceived notion that everything about this film will suck. Which it MAY WELL DO, but maybe we should wait until we see the film until we make that call?

As for me, I'm not prejudiced against the movie because of the suit. I don't care about the suit. I'm prejudiced against it because it is a reboot. Around fifty percent of the potential entertainment value in any franchise film, for me, is invested in the sense of continuity and development of character and universe. A reboot is stripped of those things, it has the virtue of neither originality NOR familiarity, it is HALF a franchise movie. :P Even if the film itself is a perfect 10, without the sense of continuity the overall viewing experience can be no better than a five out of ten. Reboot = instant mediocrity, in my book.

Rancid Carcass
19-Sep-2012, 12:59 AM
I think the problem with the new suit is that it's not very distinctive. Redesigning it is fine but it lacks an identity - you could drop it into a Nolan Bat-flick and you'd wouldn't be able to tell it apart from any other piece of body armour, it just looks pretty generic. That could be the plan, I've no idea what the design ethos behind it is and it may work out fine within the context of the film. But a reboot needs to find it's own identity to stand it a part from the original movie and a 'new' iconic suit would certainly help - it should still scream 'Robocop' at you though, and not 'Background Tactical Shock-Trooper #1'.

AcesandEights
19-Sep-2012, 01:10 AM
The general consensus was that the Star Trek reboot was pretty damn good. It got praise from critics and fans alike.

I agree, it was pretty goddamn cool, whether you acknowledge that a majority of the old Star Trek films were garbage or not (which most were, though WoK was, is and always will be awesome). I give the reboot 5 out of 5 katanas! I'd actually would have given it 4 1/2, but everyone knows you can't break a katana in two.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/DougOBrien/5%20out%20of%205%20katanas_zpsb0148be0.jpg

Tricky
19-Sep-2012, 08:30 AM
That new Robocop suit looks like a rip off of Nomads suit in Crysis if he got covered in soot.

Neil
19-Sep-2012, 09:48 AM
That new Robocop suit looks like a rip off of Nomads suit in Crysis if he got covered in soot.

Now you mention it... yes!

MinionZombie
19-Sep-2012, 10:16 AM
Now you mention it... yes!

I was going to say the same thing!

It certainly doesn't look like a policeman either - the original suit looked more like a policeman with the use of that blue steel colour, and I preferred the bulkier look to it as well, as it made it look like the technology wasn't super sleek; they were pushing the boundaries of what was possible in their world. So yeah - not a fan of the new suit, and I've read that many of the director's ideas have been tossed out and that it's not exactly an enjoyable set to be around. The director then responded to the rumours with a statement that wasn't particularly glowing ... one of those gritted-teeth-sounding 'no everything's cool' responses, you know?

There's nothing wrong with the original - why bother?! Remake something that didn't work the first time around!!! :rolleyes:

Neil
19-Sep-2012, 11:09 AM
More photos here - http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Shots-From-Set-RoboCop-Arrive-33038.html

bassman
19-Sep-2012, 01:53 PM
The general consensus was that the Star Trek reboot was pretty damn good. It got praise from critics and fans alike. Heck, I'm one of them.

It seems to me there's a lot of hating just for the sake of it going around here. There's simply no way that the Robocop costume is that bad. But no matter how it looked, most would have hated on it because of this preconceived notion that everything about this film will suck. Which it MAY WELL DO, but maybe we should wait until we see the film until we make that call?

Agreed on both counts.

This new suit is pretty close to how I imagined it really. Some nods to the original, but updated with a slicker look.

Also, you can't ever judge a suit or prop from unofficial set photos. Without the proper lighting and surroundings anything can look ridiculous. Batman Begins had the very same issue with the suit and Tumbler, but those both turned out beautifully in the film.

Neil
17-Oct-2012, 07:55 AM
Moved from August 9, 2013 release date to February 7, 2014

Neil
19-Oct-2012, 08:51 AM
Oh dear!

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MoonSylver
19-Oct-2012, 04:55 PM
Aaaahahahaha!

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AcesandEights
19-Oct-2012, 05:29 PM
This new suit is pretty close to how I imagined it really. Some nods to the original, but updated with a slicker look.

Meh. I don't have any fan investment in this either way, but it looks a bit too "I'm Batman" for my tastes. Too much of a stealth armor look to it and not cyborgy, IMO.


Moved from August 9, 2013 release date to February 7, 2014
:lol:

MoonSylver
19-Oct-2012, 09:24 PM
If they keep moving it back maybe they can do enought reshoots where they've actually shot a whole 'nother movie. One that actually looks good. :lol:

aaron2
07-Nov-2012, 08:01 AM
No idea:( Though will love to see its sequel! loved the 1st one:)

Neil
22-Jul-2013, 08:44 AM
PG13 - http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Robocop-Gets-PG-13-Rating-Viral-Website-Update-38647.html

http://www.omnicorp.com/images/product/carousel-ED209.jpg

MinionZombie
22-Jul-2013, 10:02 AM
I understand why it's PG-13 - maximise your money take for your budget - but at the same time it just seems daft. Not only are you watering down violence, which just seems like a daft thing to do anyway, the whole point was that in the original movie crime had got so bad that they needed to resort to these extreme measures with these killing machines roaming the streets with very strict rules in their database. A softy-wofty PG-13 world will just seem a bit weird ... sure, you can allude to the big crime problem, but at the same time ... meh.

Another R-Rated franchise gets a punch in the todger. :rolleyes:

I think they mentioned 'oh but look at The Dark Knight, that was rated PG-13' ... yeah, but the Batman movies have never been higher than a PG-13 IIRC, whereas the first three RoboCop films - in the UK at least - were 18/18/15.

Also, I hate that 'baby poo brown' colour on ED-209 ... wtf is that? Cold steel blue would be much more fitting, or an urban camo type look ... not poo water brown. :rolleyes:

Neil
22-Jul-2013, 01:27 PM
There was this version...

http://www.djfood.org/djfood/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ed-209.jpg

MinionZombie
22-Jul-2013, 04:00 PM
There was this version...

http://www.djfood.org/djfood/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ed-209.jpg

This:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VloihDuTYkg/T4taaXVwDhI/AAAAAAAABAE/vY8TVpt5cIw/s1600/ed-209.jpeg

Shall never be beaten ... that thing was flippin' scary ... the growl & lunge it'd do when you'd not yet complied, it's deep vocal demands, it's devastating firepower ... the original was ruddy intimidating. I'd thoroughly cack myself if that thing was in front of me!

MoonSylver
23-Jul-2013, 04:26 PM
ED is the least objectionable thing I've seen so far, but that's really not saying much. :rolleyes: Change the color, & he'd be almost perfect. Too bad even the mighty ED-209 ain't gonna be able to save this stinker.
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Tricky
23-Jul-2013, 06:24 PM
They should have got Pete Travis to direct it after the awesome job he made of Dredd, it would have been in safe hands there.

shootemindehead
23-Jul-2013, 06:37 PM
I don't think anybody could rescue a PG13 Robocop

Tricky
23-Jul-2013, 07:00 PM
I don't think anybody could rescue a PG13 Robocop

Not a PG-13 one no, but had he been in charge and been allowed to make it an 18, it could have been awesome...

Neil
06-Sep-2013, 08:49 AM
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See how they've toned down his death? A single car bomb... Hmmmmm!

MinionZombie
06-Sep-2013, 10:05 AM
^^

That left me pretty cold ... I'll see it - eventually - but I won't be slapping down cash at the cinema for it, no way, no how. Yeah, this feels a bit safe - the original felt dangerous; it had a mean streak, so there was a sense of threat ... this trailer just makes it feel too slick, too safe, too PG-13.

I've been meaning to get a new copy of RoboCop - is there a good Blu-Ray with plenty of extras on it out there? If not yet, then surely when this CGI-fest comes out.

bassman
06-Sep-2013, 01:37 PM
I think it looks pretty fun....

There also appears to be a great deal of Oldman, Jackson, and Keaton. That's always a good thing...

MoonSylver
06-Sep-2013, 09:33 PM
Thought it looked better than expected, but still only *meh* at best. Not going to theater to see. Might catch on DVD, but no burning desire to do so. :|

Neil
12-Sep-2013, 09:30 PM
http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/draven/robocop_2014.jpg-large

MoonSylver
12-Sep-2013, 09:55 PM
My move? Pass. :lol:

MinionZombie
13-Sep-2013, 09:31 AM
What's with the "//" marks? :p

shootemindehead
13-Sep-2013, 09:49 AM
He can't find the next folder in his program.

MinionZombie
13-Sep-2013, 09:55 AM
He can't find the next folder in his program.

HA! :D

*nerd-five* :cool:

RomeroFan85
13-Sep-2013, 10:10 AM
If you ask me honestly...i probably wont see it. As i think i heard Joel Kinnaman say that "he'll do a better job at playing Robocop then Peter Weller did"...Really Joel, Really lol. I think you need your head checked my friend. Ill promise you, you wont be able to touch Peter Weller's Robocop performance.

MinionZombie
13-Sep-2013, 11:52 AM
One thing that just sprang to mind - it was mentioned that 'they kept his hand because a machine isn't legally allowed to fire a gun' ... but in one or more shots of the trailer you can see him dual-wielding weapons, one in his human hand, and one in his robot hand ... so that's null-and-void, then. :D

Yeah RF85, Peter Weller's performance was a good one, and it's so well-known too - iconic - Kinnaman will never be able to beat it.

Trancelikestate
14-Sep-2013, 10:08 AM
That's like IF Jackie Earl Hailey said he could do a better Freddy than Englund. He CREATED the character. So, if that's true, dude just shot himself in the foot. With his robot hand.

Neil
07-Nov-2013, 04:00 PM
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MinionZombie
08-Nov-2013, 09:42 AM
There was a little more intrigue for me in that second trailer - the stuff with having these robots all over the world 'keeping the peace' in foreign warzones etc, but America refuses to have them on their own turf (a thinly veiled guise for "drones"?) until they PR something into existence.

Still though, that's an awful lot of CGI ... I look at that and when he (and they) starts leaping about I just think it's a comic book or a cartoon show. As if the robots don't have enough weight to their movements ... look at Avatar, with those mech-suit deeleys, and they lumber and jolt with a real sense of weight, and it feels much more real.

Neil
08-Nov-2013, 10:34 AM
Still though, that's an awful lot of CGI ... I look at that and when he (and they) starts leaping about I just think it's a comic book or a cartoon show. As if the robots don't have enough weight to their movements ...
Indeed, this superhuman ninja stuff just doesn't come across as real/believable. His remaining cells/organs would get turned to paste by the g-forces. But why let reality and common sense get in the way of action scenes :rolleyes:


look at Avatar, with those mech-suit deeleys, and they lumber and jolt with a real sense of weight, and it feels much more real.You know, I watched that just the other night... Mmmmmmm Demi Moore and Chunky Monkey! :)

bassman
08-Nov-2013, 11:48 AM
If you guys aren't even willing to give it a chance, why bother? Of course it probably won't live up to the original, but you guys are just setting yourselves up to hate it. Even before we saw a second of footage some of you had already decided it was crap. Granted, most remakes are, but you have to at least give it a shot in it's own terms....

Neil
08-Nov-2013, 12:59 PM
If you guys aren't even willing to give it a chance, why bother? Of course it probably won't live up to the original, but you guys are just setting yourselves up to hate it. Even before we saw a second of footage some of you had already decided it was crap. Granted, most remakes are, but you have to at least give it a shot in it's own terms....

Do you think we just pluck these opinions out of the air? Or do you think we maybe pick up on certain things?

Personally that last trailer lifted my expectations a bit.

But as has been said, we can see a few problems in what's demonstrated in this trailer and other media. For example the ridiculous physics, where we're once again heading into "need a cool scene" territory, no matter what the expense to the script or plain common sense.

MinionZombie
08-Nov-2013, 04:39 PM
You know, I watched that just the other night... Mmmmmmm Demi Moore and Chunky Monkey! :)

:lol::lol::lol:

This is all sounding awfully familiar... :p


But as has been said, we can see a few problems in what's demonstrated in this trailer and other media. For example the ridiculous physics, where we're once again heading into "need a cool scene" territory, no matter what the expense to the script or plain common sense.

The same school of thought as T3 and T4 with the 'super Terminator' nonsense. In T4 a T-800 totally survives a dousing with molten steel - the same stuff that destroyed the T-800 from the second movie (and, I might add, ended the war forever and destroyed all remaining traces of Cyberdyne tech). :shifty:

I preferred this trailer over the first for certain reasons, but the first one did leave me awfully cold. I just wasn't feeling it - I don't think RoboCop needs remaking, this is true, and I'm not excited about the remake either. I'll certainly watch it - eventually (i.e. Sky Movies), and who knows it might be cool, but it could just as easily be Total Recall 2012 (which was shite). Although, comparing trailers, RoboCop 2013 looks better than Total Recall 2012. I've not written it off, but I ain't gonna pretend I'm happy about it being remade either.

Legion2213
08-Nov-2013, 04:48 PM
Random observation - Was that Lydia from Breaking Bad?

bassman
08-Nov-2013, 08:45 PM
Do you think we just pluck these opinions out of the air? Or do you think we maybe pick up on certain things?

Considering my post said you guys had decided you would hate it before even seeing footage....yeah...that'd be thin air. :lol:

Neil
09-Nov-2013, 09:52 AM
Considering my post said you guys had decided you would hate it before even seeing footage....yeah...that'd be thin air. :lol:

Look at my posts though this thread, and show me any negativity without reason? And I certainly haven't said I "hate it!"

There's hope for this film, but I can't say I'm not concerned by some of the choices we've seen. Even subtle things like him keeping his hand/arm. In the original they saved the arm, but decided to chop it off anyway showing they considered Murphy nothing more than a piece of meat - product! In this version they've undoubtly kept it so he can pet his kid and stroke his wife's face with it?

I haven't written it of yet as it may well work on its own terms... Fingers crossed!

Neil
21-Nov-2013, 03:26 PM
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MinionZombie
21-Nov-2013, 05:40 PM
So much CGI ... :(

Once again - I will see it, eventually, and final opinion is naturally pending - but eeeeee ... so much CGI, so many shots that feel like RoboCop and the ED-209s don't weigh enough (or anything) ... it makes me feel too aware that it's not real, if that makes sense? I fear it'd pull me out of the flick everytime it happens. :|

chealax
24-Nov-2013, 10:01 AM
So this is going to be sequel or something which is coming in 2014 according to that trailer?

Neil
07-Jan-2014, 12:16 PM
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MinionZombie
07-Jan-2014, 04:05 PM
Speaking of RoboCop, conveniently (and deliberately, of course), there's a new Blu-Ray of the proper flick coming out at the end of the month. I don't know what the special features are set to be, but apparently it's a fresh master (I recall reading that the previous Blu-Ray of RoboCop was pants in the print department), and it's also going to be the "Director's Cut" (i.e. what he had made before the MPAA got their mits on it).

So that's something to look forward to. I've not seen the original in years.

Neil
23-Jan-2014, 03:48 PM
Just feels contrived and soulless no?

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MinionZombie
24-Jan-2014, 09:53 AM
I suppose it's interesting that they don't just do exactly the same thing as the original, but at the same time I'm still very split on what I've seen. I watched a handful of clips via Daily Dead which had two action sequences - and it all looked overly flash, lots of CGI, lots of inhuman smoothness to the movement that didn't feel like it physically existed in real space ... even the ED-209s didn't feel anywhere near as threatening in one battle he had with three of them.

On the other hand there's interesting stuff with them trying to 'market' the idea of RoboCop to the citizens, and getting around the letter of the law etc.

I'm much more looking forward to the Blu-Ray re-release of the original.

ProfessorChaos
24-Jan-2014, 06:18 PM
i've seen a few bits in the previews that interest me, such as the use of robotic soldiers overseas and whatnot, but i've seen quite a bit of stuff in the previews that makes me very skeptical of this. the original doesn't really hold a special place in my nostalgia-banks, so i will likely watch this with neutral expectations once it hits the redbox.

MoonSylver
24-Jan-2014, 09:44 PM
Saw a promo on TV last night. My face: :|

Legion2213
24-Jan-2014, 09:51 PM
I'm not going to have a pop at this movie for CGI, because that's how movies are made in the 21st century and that's not going to change...but the clips simply don't have the charm of the original for me.

Robocop and Starship Troopers had a real "comic/graphic Novel" feel to them when they were out back in the day...the "adverts" in RC & ST alone were worth the admission fee.

MinionZombie
25-Jan-2014, 10:42 AM
It's not necessarily an issue with CGI in general - it's more related to the physical feel of them - as in, they don't feel like they're existing in normal physical space as the human beings. RoboCop leaping around in a strangely fluid manner just doesn't feel at all real - it feels fake - and I don't buy that it's happening.

You look at something like Gollum - I bought that he was 'real', even though you know he obviously isn't - but his movements were real (motion capture) and he physically affected the environment around him, or interacted with it, that he really felt a part of the 'real world space' that the actors are inhabiting. I don't get anything like that - at all - from all the clips I've seen of this RC remake.

MinionZombie
29-Jan-2014, 06:38 PM
Just re-watched the 1987 original for the first time in years, and it still holds up. I got the newly remastered Blu-Ray (and in Director's Cut form - i.e. with the bits cut out for the MPAA re-instated) and it looks pretty darn good. A couple of grainy shots here and there, and the TV sequences are deliberately low-grade, but the film looks very tidy and as it was intended to be seen.

I'd also forgotten just how ultra violent this movie was - Murphy's death, the toxic waste sequence, the spike to the neck, the conference room ED-209 malfunction.

Looks to be a nice compliment of extra features too (gonna dive into those later), so if you don't have an up-to-date copy of the flick then definitely get the new release. :cool:

Neil
29-Jan-2014, 09:12 PM
Just re-watched the 1987 original for the first time in years, and it still holds up. I got the newly remastered Blu-Ray (and in Director's Cut form - i.e. with the bits cut out for the MPAA re-instated) and it looks pretty darn good.

How much/what was cut out? (ie: What extra footage is there in your versions?)

shootemindehead
30-Jan-2014, 07:16 AM
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Yeh, what he said.

I'm thinking of having a punt on this.

EvilNed
30-Jan-2014, 09:30 AM
I have it on Blu-Ray as well. I've only seen the Blu-Ray version once, but from what I remember, it's usually just a matter of shots being extended. I remember the scene where that Executive gets blasted to bits by ED-209 in the initial demonstration to be somewhat lengthier, for instance.

Neil
30-Jan-2014, 09:47 AM
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Yeh, what he said.

I'm thinking of having a punt on this.

This seems to explain what the extra footage is. Basically a few seconds here and there simply showing more gruesome detail. Sound epic :)

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=3609994

MinionZombie
30-Jan-2014, 10:21 AM
Yeah, I was gonna put up the link to Movie Censorship (an excellent resource for comparing versions and cuts of films).

Yeah, some additions, as well as some alternative versions of sequences (e.g. a close shot rather than a wide shot). The tweaks in the DC just makes the violent parts even more brutal than they were before - especially Murphy's death. The additions there are quite shocking - and there's an excellent use of a 'puppet' version of Peter Weller in one of the DC shots where we see him grimacing in agony and then dolly around to the back of his head and see the bullet exit in a single shot. It's an excellent 'puppet' that's very convincing, and I think the audio really sells it too.

It might not seen like much, but when you see the film again, it does add a further impact to already astonishing scenes. The guy in the conference room gets utterly riddled, so seeing that additional shot is like a crazy extra gut punch.

If you're thinking about getting the newly remastered director's cut Blu-Ray, then definitely hop on it. Previous releases weren't that well received (due to iffy PQ and no extras), but with the remake coming out they've finally pimped out a proper release of it this time around. Recommended. :thumbsup:

Neil
30-Jan-2014, 10:43 AM
Do me a favour, and link to your DVD at Play.com for example?

Is it this one - http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/56854696/Robocop-Newly-Remastered-Edition/Product.html?searchstring=robocop+bluray&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search

None of them seem to mention "Director's Cut".

bassman
30-Jan-2014, 12:07 PM
Honest trailer for the original:

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MinionZombie
30-Jan-2014, 01:07 PM
Do me a favour, and link to your DVD at Play.com for example?

Is it this one - http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/56854696/Robocop-Newly-Remastered-Edition/Product.html?searchstring=robocop+bluray&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search

None of them seem to mention "Director's Cut".

Yeah that's the one. Note "Newly Remastered Edition" in the title, as well as "Director's Cut" on the front cover beneath the title. You can also get it cheaper on Amazon. Also note that I didn't bother with the steelbook (more money for just different packaging with inferior artwork - i.e. RoboCop looks like a giant machine in a tiny city :p), get the normal case Blu-Ray. :cool:

...

Awesome "Honest Trailer" too. :D

ProfessorChaos
30-Jan-2014, 04:39 PM
holy crap, i forgot all about those cap-firing toys. i used to have one of those! if i could find another one on ebay and the price was right.......(wait for it).......

i'd buy that for a dollar!!!$$$$

MoonSylver
30-Jan-2014, 08:51 PM
holy crap, i forgot all about those cap-firing toys. i used to have one of those! if i could find another one on ebay and the price was right.......(wait for it).......

i'd buy that for a dollar!!!$$$$

Oh Bixby...:lol:

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/263/2/b/robocop_bixby_snyder_dollar_bill_by_silver122-d5fc7yq.png

MinionZombie
31-Jan-2014, 09:51 AM
Gave the special features on the disc a spin last night - good stuff.

Mostly from previous DVD releases, but for folks like me who haven't seen them yet, it's another reason to purchase the BR. Plenty of informative, good-length featurettes, and there's an interesting Q&A. Some details cross over from one special feature to another, so certain bits of info you've already heard, but plenty of new stuff in each.

Although, I do have to say, whoever was operating the camera for the Q&A portion really needs to sort their camera handling abilities out - at the beginning the camera person didn't know who most of the panellists were, so you're watching Ed Neumeier instead of Michael Miner, who is the one answering a question about the script, and their re-framing is so jerky and hap-hazard that it rather pissed me off. The content of the Q&A was good and you could hear everything fine, it was just the camera operation for it was shoddy. I've done my fair share of single camera, one-take set ups of stage events (i.e. no other camera to cut away to in the edit), and you've got to be very precise and calm with your zoom so that you're not making a mess in-between the settled bits ... so on a technical level the Q&A pissed me off, but everything else about it was good (and very nice to see Weller and Verhoeven are such good friends in spite of the difficulties of the production).

Lots of interesting asides throughout all the extras - I've still got the commentary to do, and there'll no doubt be some cross-over of facts & info on that too, but I listened to a bit of it and it sounded quite good (Verhoeven, Neumeier, and producer Davison, IIRC). :)

shootemindehead
31-Jan-2014, 03:36 PM
This seems to explain what the extra footage is. Basically a few seconds here and there simply showing more gruesome detail. Sound epic :)

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=3609994


:thumbsup:

AcesandEights
31-Jan-2014, 04:16 PM
I'll be honest, not the biggest Robocop fan, though I admit it was well done and enjoyable enough, however I totally forgot how badass and well done he looked on the movie poster.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/DougOBrien/poster_robocop_zpsa7896efb.jpg

MinionZombie
31-Jan-2014, 04:43 PM
It's a shame they didn't use that poster for the new release's cover. That poster hasn't been used on a release since the VHS ... and it is a kick arse poster.

*edit*

To be fair though, the remake will absolutely blow RoboCop 3 right out of the water. I liked it as a kid, but looking at the trailer and some reviews/info about it now and I think it looks bloody awful. RoboCop 2 has some problems, and it doesn't have the same x-factor as the first (and misses a few nuances here and there), but it was a pretty decent flick generally, even though it was inferior to the first movie.

Neil
04-Feb-2014, 09:06 AM
Reviews seem to suggest a fairly solid if average scifi action flick - http://filmnomenon2.blogspot.sg/2014/01/robocop-2014.html

MinionZombie
05-Feb-2014, 06:26 PM
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IGN give it a 6.9/10 ... although their ratings are always rather inflated, so for IGN, 6.9 is somewhat middling.

What I take from their review is: Lots of flash, seems to be overtly political (the original, for me at least, was a bit more subtle in its politics - indeed, members of both the Left and Right both love it and hate it) ... "po faced", so they've taken themselves too seriously, it would seem ... and the aspect of how Detroit seems like an okay place to live in this version of RoboCop making his necessity seem a bit pointless strikes a firm "hmmm" chord with me. In the original movie it does seem practically lawless - a really tough and dirty place (well, the area in which Murphy is transferred to, that is), made all the worse when the stretched-thin police force go on strike in the flick.

One thing that I also thought - if the ED-209 can't get a lock onto RoboCop hiding beneath it, why continue firing? That's just a waste of ammo - but in the clip in this review it clearly shows the ED-209 standing above RoboCop firing constantly and wasting a shedload of ammo. That's rather daft.

Again, I'll see it eventually. Some ideas do seem like good territory to tread for a remake, but it does sound like they've sapped a lot of the fun out ... far more focus on the family element (which was minimal in the original, but the loss of his family life did inspire his revenge on Boddicker & Co), but perhaps at the expense of action fun? We shall see.

MinionZombie
08-Feb-2014, 11:27 AM
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Mark Kermode's review.

Essentially 'a lot less bad than you're expecting' ... still essentially redundant ... but consider they've gone and done this remake, it's "perfectly alright". So he seemed to enjoy it having gone in with rock bottom expectations, even if it wasn't a necessary film to make.

MoonSylver
09-Feb-2014, 03:28 AM
Mark Kermode's review.

Essentially 'a lot less bad than you're expecting' ... still essentially redundant ... but consider they've gone and done this remake, it's "perfectly alright". So he seemed to enjoy it having gone in with rock bottom expectations, even if it wasn't a necessary film to make.

Sounds like a ringing endorsement. :lol:

EvilNed
13-Feb-2014, 09:52 AM
Saw it yesterday. I kind of enjoyed it. Better than expected. The main plot was about RoboCop, rather than some bad guy he had to stop. Felt nice, as you got kinda invested in the character.

ProfessorChaos
14-Feb-2014, 03:06 AM
going to see this tonight. haven't been to the movies in a while and while i really enjoy the original film, i don't really think of it as casablanca or anything, and i've been hearing/reading good things about the remake, so i figured what the hell.

will post impressions later.

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well, it was a rather good time. i went in with neutral expectations and left pretty satisfied. while i don't think it was good enough to warrant a blu ray purchase to add to the home library, i'd definitely watch it again once it hits the premium channels on tv.

the 2014 film spends more time focusing on the human aspect of robocop, which i thought was appropriate. the main actors do well in their roles, the cgi is pretty impressive, and the action is much more impressive given that this iteration of robocop is more agile and dynamic. some parts were a bit too video-gamey, but that's what they are giving their perceived target audience. there were some elements of humor, including a bit towards the end with samuel l jackson that had me almost in tears.

overall, i thought it was a decent flick, quite different from the original, and as long as you don't have a stick up your ass about the original, worth the price of admission.

Neil
14-Feb-2014, 04:01 PM
^^

Thanks for the review. I'll catch this one at home I think!

MinionZombie
14-Feb-2014, 04:42 PM
I watched the other RoboCop remake just now ... "Our RoboCop Remake" ... go over to Vimeo and you can search for it there.

It's a fan-made homage/spoof of the entire movie scene-by-scene, put together by a different group of filmmakers for each scene, with a wide range in styles and productions ... from simple animation, to low budget live action, to puppets, to trippy re-edits, to full-blown and very impressive productions. The quality does change from scene-to-scene, but overall it's a really entertaining fan-made project - I laughed out loud numerous times.

Check it out, it's worth seeing. :cool::thumbsup::)

ProfessorChaos
14-Feb-2014, 05:34 PM
@neil:

you're quite welcome, sir. i wanted to add a couple of things, mainly a couple of things i liked as well as something i didn't.

first, i think that the film almost works better this time around with the abundance of technology in our society today. robocop wirelessly taps into traffic cameras, home security systems, security monitors at stores, etc. to get a real-time view of suspects and crimes happening around the city, which is pretty cool. i also found the bits concerning the use of robotics and drones overseas to be relevant and interesting, and like i said, the film does a much better job of examining the man in the suit, both emotionally as well as physically (which is disturbing to see, but almost fascinating at the same time). there's also a blink-and-you'll miss it appearance of the robocop suit from the original films.

things that didn't sit well with me were some of the musical choices used, the bits that couldn't help but utilize the dumb-ass shaky-cam, and even though it's supposed to be set in the late 2020's, the technology felt a bit over-the-top as far as floating touchscreen computers, clear cell phones, and almost everybody's office has clear walls....i mean, how's a guy supposed to take a nap or pick his nose when every single bloke in the building can look in on him all day long? and while i'm at it, i'm not a fan of that goofy-looking jay baruchel kid, who has minor role as a marketing executive that i felt was poorly played.

overall, though, it's definitely worth seeing, i'd say that the ign review of 6.9/10 is pretty accurate.

Rottedfreak
02-Apr-2014, 11:21 AM
I just saw the film and have to ask:
Who else went numb when they saw Murphy disassembled to reveal he is just two sacks of organs supporting a hand and half a head?

ProfessorChaos
02-Apr-2014, 02:30 PM
numb as in:

1) holy shit, what a horrible revelation for our titular character!!

or

2) my gosh, how daft is this film?

for me, it was more like option 1....

Rottedfreak
02-Apr-2014, 06:21 PM
Option 1 for me too.
I was shocked and that scene cast a gloom on the rest of the film for me.
The trailer lead me to believe he was in a exoskeleton.

AcesandEights
02-Apr-2014, 07:16 PM
Hmmm, you guys are making me want to check this film out!

Thanks for the reviews!

ProfessorChaos
02-Apr-2014, 07:38 PM
@rottedfreak:

did you enjoy the rest of the film though? or did that part bum you out so much that you didn't like the rest of it?


and yeah, doug, it's worth watching. like i said before, i'd definitely sit through it again.

rongravy
12-Apr-2014, 05:11 AM
It really wasn't bad, but I didn't get into it until he started to get it on with the two legged robot thangies. I will say he walked so loud I'm guessing any kind of stealth was out of the question...
I enjoyed it, though I can't remember much about the original to compare.
Either way, it was $3. Can't beat that.

drakey
18-Apr-2014, 01:24 AM
I really loved the remake. Hope there's gonna be a sequel :p

Mr. Clean
07-Jul-2014, 04:14 AM
First of all, I would like to say that I'm a HUGE fan of the original Robocop movies...1, 2, & 3 plus the Prime Directive Mini Series....

With that said....

This remake was fucking excellent! It was indeed a damn good movie....It stands firm by itself and doesn't cast a negative shadow on the Robocop Franchise. I can't wait for the second movie.



I have to admit that I found the black paint job pretty annoying but when he reverted back to silver in the end....FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!

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I just saw the film and have to ask:
Who else went numb when they saw Murphy disassembled to reveal he is just two sacks of organs supporting a hand and half a head?

Yeah, a pretty big WTF moment for me too! He was only missing an arm and a leg....plus sporting a fucked up eye...I didn't quite understand why they left the hand when the decided to remove sooooo much flesh & organs.

follyu
17-Jul-2014, 09:47 AM
The movie is little overrated ...that's what I think.