what will emo kids think of themselves in 20 years...

[Mike70]

probably not much based on the hair styles popular nowadays. every decade/generation of kids has their own "thing." i'm sure that when these kids look back on these ridiculous hairstyles, clothes and music, they'll be just as horrified about it as people my age are about the 80s.

still i'd pay money to see what a few of these dorks think about these pics when they are 35 or 40.

i'm sure this guy's children will find this pic as ridiculous as i do
http://googleemo.com/images/emoboy6.jpg

i am so hip and up to speed on all popular trends.
http://m.pimpmyspace.org/pimp/1/7c/7ce867ca19b11eb16d9b.jpg

too cool for anything but one word
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NO2UOMMYKZ0/SKktvC-1RFI/AAAAAAAAA1k/JEqoMgwPSg8/s400/Messy+Black+Emo+Hair.jpg

i'm just having a bit of fun here but i will admit that i don't take "emo" or "emo" kids seriously. first of all because they are kids and don't know shit about anything. secondly, thankfully being a teenager isn't permanent. these folks will grow up and look back and be like, "man, i looked like a fricking fairy back then."

[AcesandEights]

The same thing a lot of punks, metalheads, new-wavers and the like did when they grew up, Mike. Some will grow out of their ludicrous subcult (possibly incorporating a part of the ethos of the music into their adult lives), while others hang on in various degrees unhealthiness. Some will look back and chuckle and others will see it as the beginning of their current (perhaps by then, peter-pan?) lifestyle.

You wanna bitch about the kids on your front yard now? I think they're marking up the grass. :D

[Mike70]

You wanna bitch about the kids on your front yard now? I think they're marking up the grass. :D

there are already no trespassing signs up.:D

you should know by now that i have a very malicious sense of humor and that i feel there is nothing above mockery.

[SRP76]

They're just a product of their equally fucked-up parents. What, you don't think 70s teenagers were retarded? Well, they reproduced, and passed on their gimmicky philosophies to their kids, who take it a step further - result is these emo freaks.

Once they reproduce, their children will make them look like Dan Rather by comparison. Probably be a race of geeks wearing aluminum foil and carrying goldfish in a zip-loc bag around with them.

[deadpunk]

The same thing a lot of punks, metalheads, new-wavers and the like did when they grew up, Mike. Some will grow out of their ludicrous subcult (possibly incorporating a part of the ethos of the music into their adult lives), while others hang on in various degrees unhealthiness. Some will look back and chuckle and others will see it as the beginning of their current (perhaps by then, peter-pan?) lifestyle.


Wow...um...'kay. :rockbrow:

Actually, not okay. I happen to be a 35 year old punk rocker. I sport a mohawk and don't own a single t-shirt that isn't emblazoned with some type of superhero, horror film, or punk band. I wear combat boots and ripped jeans. I only listen to punk music from the 80s. I'm covered in tats, although I keep to the rule of nothing above the collar or below the elbows...

I'm also a father of 3, a dedicated husband, a veteran of the United States Marine Corps, and I work 65+ hours a week with mentall ill children (a job I took knowing I was going to make less money but needing to wake up in the morning knowing I was doing something that made a difference).

While I find the emo movement as idiotic as the next guy, I don't find those statements to be fair. The particular 'sub-culture' I subscribe to pushes the idea of non-conformity and stresses individualism. (I don't really get down with the anarchy or anti-establishment punks) These are ideals that I hope my children pick up on. By the way son, yes, it is okay to be yourself despite what others think.

:mad:

[AcesandEights]

Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I mentioned "possibly incorporating a part of the ethos of the music into their adult lives", Deadpunk.

Regardless, most of the different-for-the-sake-of-being-different excesses of emo kids are similar to so many of the generations of kids who came before them and my point is, it's not a big deal.

[Mike70]

[QUOTE=AcesandEights;210951
Regardless, most of the different-for-the-sake-of-being-different excesses of emo kids are similar to so many of the generations of kids who came before them and my point is, it's not a big deal.[/QUOTE]

funny and ridiculous for sure, but certainly not a big deal.

most people grow out of the shit they do as a teenager. some don't. i feel sorry for those that don't. if you are the same at 40 as at 17, you have miserably failed at growing as a person.

i've grew completely out of the angsty need to be different simply for the sake of being different. that is a complete and total poser stance anyway.

[bassman]

They'll grow out of it and one day look back at pictures and laugh. I remember looking at pictures of my parents and thinking they were trying to trick me. No way my parents could have dressed and acted like that.:p

That even applies to some of my photos. I'll look back at some of them and just do one of those "shhhhh ouuch" sounds...

[deadpunk]

Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I mentioned "possibly incorporating a part of the ethos of the music into their adult lives", Deadpunk.

Regardless, most of the different-for-the-sake-of-being-different excesses of emo kids are similar to so many of the generations of kids who came before them and my point is, it's not a big deal.

I clearly misunderstood your post. Thanks for the clarification :)

That being said, I still find this thread questionable. We're judging people based off a lifestyle choice and/or the way they look... Kind of implies that if I started a gay-bashing thread or thread about "when are these black guys gonna stop acting so ghetto" thread, it would be cool.

At any rate, I'm going to bow out of this thread, as I figure whatever gets posted will resonate rather personally with me and cause me to respond without forethought.

[Mike70]

That being said, I still find this thread questionable. We're judging people based off a lifestyle choice and/or the way they look...

hate to break it to you but you are judged by your lifestyle choices and by the way you look. it might not be fair (and it isn't) but we are animals highly tuned into the visual. try going to a job interview in an emo or punk kit or try that same interview with bright green hair. you might get a job at hot topic looking like that but in the world of "real jobs", you'd be sunk.

i'm more making fun of teenagers, who are all by their very nature ridiculous. i could just as easily have posted pics of my friends and i back in the 80s and we would've had the same laugh.

funny i didn't know that "emo" qualified as an ethnicity, religion (which i will make fun of whenever i can), or sexual preference.

[AcesandEights]

i'm more making fun of teenagers, who are all by their very nature ridiculous.

Hear, hear!

[Andy]

i am so hip and up to speed on all popular trends.
http://m.pimpmyspace.org/pimp/1/7c/7ce867ca19b11eb16d9b.jpg

too cool for anything but one word
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NO2UOMMYKZ0/SKktvC-1RFI/AAAAAAAAA1k/JEqoMgwPSg8/s400/Messy+Black+Emo+Hair.jpg

Althought i was never a emo myself, i have dated a couple of emo girls in my time and i must admit, i think its a very attractive look for a girl.

[MikePizzoff]

Wow...um...'kay. :rockbrow:

Actually, not okay. I happen to be a 35 year old punk rocker. I sport a mohawk and don't own a single t-shirt that isn't emblazoned with some type of superhero, horror film, or punk band. I wear combat boots and ripped jeans. I only listen to punk music from the 80s. I'm covered in tats, although I keep to the rule of nothing above the collar or below the elbows...


I was about to go off on my own tirade but I saw Aces response...


Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I mentioned "possibly incorporating a part of the ethos of the music into their adult lives", Deadpunk.


Hm, I'm wondering if I fall into that category. I still tour around the country when I've got time off from school. I still dress ridiculously with a patched/studded vest, bullet belt, stretch fucking jeans, and enough "obscure" band t-shirts to clothe an army. I still believe in "smashing" certain aspects of society (lets not get into that). Hm, haha, perhaps I do live in some Peter Pan world but I'm as happy as a pig in shit!

[jded]

Best place to run into them? The mall. You can find a whole slew of them there. I hadn't been in ages but the other night I took a stroll and at every turn the place was infested with them.

But you must relax. They merely represent a small section of a generation. And who knows, one of them may bust out one day and create that one thing that's beneficial for us all. Sure I feel repelled and slightly freaked out at the sight of them but it's all part of the repetition that will keep playing out with each new phase that's embraced by the nonconformist type.

I better stop now though, they may have informants scoping out the site. I can hear them now. "You know they're talking about us big time over there at the HPOTD." Naw, I doubt it! You know damn well they love the attention.

[Tricky]

Emo girls do look quite hot, the only problem with the emo trend and I pointed this out in another thread ages ago, is that it seems to be compulsory for most of them to get absolutely covered in angsty tats, mainly stars, all up their necks, behind the ears, & all over the backs of the hands or wrists in places they cant easily cover. Now im not against tats by any means, I have several myself & want more, but these are mainly naive trend following 16 - 20 year olds who seem oblivious to the fact that in a few years time they are going to be looking for jobs, and a lot of places will not hire people with tattoos that cant be covered up. All branches of the UK armed forces are strict on it, as are a lot of companies & retailers...

[Mike70]

Hm, I'm wondering if I fall into that category. I still tour around the country when I've got time off from school. I still dress ridiculously with a patched/studded vest, bullet belt, stretch fucking jeans, and enough "obscure" band t-shirts to clothe an army. I still believe in "smashing" certain aspects of society (lets not get into that). Hm, haha, perhaps I do live in some Peter Pan world but I'm as happy as a pig in shit!

this is more about the strange fads that teenagers go through. you could apply it to any era and the results would be pretty much the same.

maybe it's age but i don't feel the need to be visually "different" anymore. i am quite comfortable with the person i am and don't feel like i have to wear the fact that i am a freak on my sleeve. i know that the things i'm interested in make me "different" than most people and i'm ok with that.

the need to broadcast that to the world, to me at least, is wrapped up in youthful arrogance and the fact that teenagers, by and large, are just not comfortable with who they are. nor should they be. teens are stuck in that strange place between childhood and adulthood, where you have adult feelings and urges but are not, by any stretch of the imagination, an adult yet.

actually, i feel sorry for all the little bastards.

[MikePizzoff]

But you must relax. They merely represent a small section of a generation. And who knows, one of them may bust out one day and create that one thing that's beneficial for us all. Sure I feel repelled and slightly freaked out at the sight of them but it's all part of the repetition that will keep playing out with each new phase that's embraced by the nonconformist type.


First, I also feel repelled and grossed out/disappointed in these kids.

Secondly, I don't find it suiting that you call these kids nonconformists as their clothing can be found in virtually every major clothing-chain in America and their [shitty] music can be found on MTV and the radio.

[Tricky]

This is a few years old now, but still makes me laugh
8HZNO9A6TQo

:lol:

[Mike70]

First, I also feel repelled and grossed out/disappointed in these kids.

Secondly, I don't find it suiting that you call these kids nonconformists as their clothing can be found in virtually every major clothing-chain in America and their [shitty] music can be found on MTV and the radio.

i'm neither grossed out, repelled or disappointed (maybe muscially) with them. they are just idiotic kids doing the shit that every generation of idiotic teens do. that's what i'm getting at.

i'm sure many of them will grow up to be fine adults but that isn't the point. fuck, one of the biggest metalhead scumbags that i knew when i was a kid is now a pediatrician. he still rocks out but doesn't wear chains and a leather jacket with a back patch on it when he's on his hospital rounds.


i totally agree, pizz. emo is about as conformist as it gets. the whole "look at how different i am. i am a non-conformist" spiel is, for the most part, the arrogance of youth.

[jded]

First, I also feel repelled and grossed out/disappointed in these kids.

Secondly, I don't find it suiting that you call these kids nonconformists as their clothing can be found in virtually every major clothing-chain in America and their [shitty] music can be found on MTV and the radio.

Well, they sure as hell don't look at all like the majority, but yes, their idea of not conforming has become or was birthed out of a subculture that from the get go was commercialism at it's best. A planned attire just waiting to be unleashed on the next generation of kids armed with mommy and daddy's money. Or who know's, they may have jobs of their own. Let's say the emo children unknowingly accepted a style that was pre-defined way in advance by merchandisers awaiting a consumer. They sabotaged themselves from within believing that their look was one of a kind. Maybe. I don't know.

[MoonSylver]

i'm just having a bit of fun here but i will admit that i don't take "emo" or "emo" kids seriously. first of all because they are kids and don't know shit about anything. secondly, thankfully being a teenager isn't permanent. these folks will grow up and look back and be like, "man, i looked like a fricking fairy back then."

Maybe they'll be lucky as me to look back & see how awesomely cool they looked back in the day:

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/justsoember/nerd.jpg

[Mike70]

Maybe they'll be lucky as me to look back & see how awesomely cool they looked back in the day:

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/justsoember/nerd.jpg

you sir, are a fucking tease. :lol: there's no pic attached to that link.

[MoonSylver]

you sir, are a fucking tease. :lol: there's no pic attached to that link.

Ghah. How dare they block me in all my awesomeness...fine, here's another one of me studying :

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A4YdwQlF8XU/SodG77BZ_rI/AAAAAAAAA8g/JGH1wjEz7Rs/s400/nerd.jpg

[capncnut]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A4YdwQlF8XU/SodG77BZ_rI/AAAAAAAAA8g/JGH1wjEz7Rs/s400/nerd.jpg
I know a drug dealer who looks just like that.

"Exsthasy, pillsth, sthmoke..."

[Danny]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/khazrak/1291_244x325.jpg

The latest cover from the king of emo magazines, and the embarrassing words of choice for two decades in the future.

"i am who i am with no apologies, haley williams doing it her way"

oh dear. anyone remember the old disney channel magazine from the mid 90's?, i remember seeing the exact same words talking about those wankers sclub7, well done kerrang, your totally 'muttulz' :lol:

[SymphonicX]

I feel I can add something to this discussion.

As a lifelong metaller I resent the suggestion that I haven't grown out of my "fad". Metal music, like punk, has been around for generations. I personally love the music I listen to so much that somehow all my clothes seem to reflect that one way or another, I own a lot of band shirts and hoodies.

My passion for the image is non-existant really, this has just sort of evolved around me over the years, the music is what's important to me. I just also happen to have long hair, and wear a leather jacket.

This is the same jacket I've been wearing since I was 17.

I still love the music I listen to, I still love the lifestyle and the people and the places, the sights and sounds of gigs and festivals with my metal breatheren.

Until EMO has been around as long as metal, it will be classed as a fad - but until the whole scene dies a horrible death then these kids are simply doing the same as I did back in the day (and continue to). The moment they can be called fake is the moment they swap their image for a completely oposing one simply because the music isn't popular anymore.

Which I'm sure happens. but a lot of people like certain forms of music and their image will reflect that, its just that the trendy music at the moment is Emo, and the kids are all following that, en masse - either way, let them have their fun. I do laugh at them every now and then, but no more than I laugh at a ridiculously overdone goth, punk, hip hop kid etc etc - its all part of the variety of life and I'd rather we had emo kids growing out of their phase (which still involves stuff like poetry and art), into a geeky twat, than a kid growing up all gangsta and causing trouble.

Even though the art form that is popular emo music can be considered wishy washy, it's just a foot in the door for kids who are more attuned to the artistic, touchy feely side of life and that's something we need more of in the young generation.

Summary: it's the kids who all wear the same clothes, who watch films like "2 fast 2 furious" and call it the best film ever made "cos its got nice cars in it and fit birds" who you have to worry about. They are the future serial killers, rapists, murderers.

[Andy]

I Think you guys are being really harsh on emo's, like i said its a good look for girls in my opinion, a gay look for guys but still thats their choice.

Thats what teenagers do guys, they try to find new ways to express themselves and fit in with those around them and these fad's are just a way for them to do that, of course they might grow out of it but they might not, it might be a lifestyle choice that stays with them for the rest of their lives and i dont think they should be criticised for it, just like im sure all of you guys have in your lives being punks, metalheads, goths, hippies, mods, rockers.. whatever else there was, so calm down ok guys?

Just please note partly why im being like this, a young girl near me was murdered by a gang of chavs simply becuase she was a goth. i knew that girl and she was one of the nicest people around.

[SymphonicX]

That wasn't sophie lancaster was it?

That was an awful, awful story...typical chav ignorance gone too far. I've in my time been harassed on the street for being a metalhead, so I can relate...I used to get picked on in school for wearing Judas Priest attire...like I gave a f**k, still a metalhead....unshaken!

But Sophie's story was just tragic, a real tearjerker. I saw the animated film they made about the attack and I shed a tear, it was beautiful. She really didn't deserve that and my heart goes out to her boyfriend and family. Really sad.

There was a thing in mexico, like a trend of beating up emo kids - and the papers all said something along the lines of "now emo kids have something to cry about" - well out of order.

[Andy]

That wasn't sophie lancaster was it?

That was an awful, awful story...typical chav ignorance gone too far. I've in my time been harassed on the street for being a metalhead, so I can relate...I used to get picked on in school for wearing Judas Priest attire...like I gave a f**k, still a metalhead....unshaken!

But Sophie's story was just tragic, a real tearjerker. I saw the animated film they made about the attack and I shed a tear, it was beautiful. She really didn't deserve that and my heart goes out to her boyfriend and family. Really sad.

There was a thing in mexico, like a trend of beating up emo kids - and the papers all said something along the lines of "now emo kids have something to cry about" - well out of order.
Yes she lived in the next town over from me, went to my school and everything.

[mista_mo]

I don't particularly enjoy the emo thing...I mean, to me it looks silly as fuck. There was this one kid that I went to school with..he was around my age..so like 17 or so at the time. He dressed purely in black, wore skin tight jeans (which provided a very vivid image of his penis that shall never get out of my head), a black shirt that said "Anarchy is my life" above a circle which contained a far too large A in it, pained his nails (which were quite long) black and blue, and wore blue eye liner. He was the rattiest thing I've ever seen...was about my height, so around 5'8", and skinny as hell. He always used to pick on one of the redneck kids, you know the type. Dirty blue jeans, huge belt buckle, and a dirty plaid shirt, and he wore big goddamn work boots. He always talked in a very loud voice, and accented his limited vocabulary with plenty of "fuck yeahs, and hell yes" and plenty of mid pitch growling. Well anyways, he wasn't too bright, so never really understood that the emoesque kid was mocking him, so he always laughed it off, made fun of him back, and went stomping down the halls, singing Stomping Tom conner songs as loud as he could.

anyways, the kids binder was covered in stickers that read "MCR FOREVER" "THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE" and more anarchy ones. I remember one time he told me to listen to this wicked song of his, which turned out to be Marilyn Mansons "Sweet Dreams" and after recognizing it I said "Yea, I know that song", at which point he said "It's awesome eh? People always make fun of Marilyn, but then he comes out with a song like this that shows his true genius". I quickly pointed out that it was a rather bad cover of a song by the Euryethmics, at which point he freaked out on me and called me a poser faggot that doesn't understand what real music is, and that if I ever said anything like that about Marilyns music again, that he would get some of his friends together and beat and stab me to death.

I am not kidding either, the little shit actually told me he would get his friends together and beat the living hell out of me. I just laughed at him, and grabbed his hand and squeezed as hard as I could, at which point he began to sequel this unearthly sequel and try to madly thrash his way out of my grip. He told me to let go as i was hurting him, and that if I didn't he would have to use this nerve pinch grip that he learned from his dad. I didn't let go, and the next thing I feel are these clammy cold, worm like appendages wrap themselves around my wrist, and then a feeble attempt at a squeeze. Needless to say that it didn't work too well and he looked at me in shock, and told me that if I didn't let go that he would get a teacher and get them to give me detention. I simply replied that "If you do that, I will tell them that you threatened to kill me because I said something bad about a song that you like. Needless to say, we didn't say much to each other throughout the remainder of school, but I would always make a point to go barrelling through him and his group of friends by myself at any opportunity.

What was I getting at again...oh, the inside of his binder was covered in "I hate my life, my parents suck, no one understands me", which I thought was funny considering what the outside of his binder was composed of.

tl;dr I don't mind them, but they dress weird, smell like cheap makeup, and are defensive about Marilyn Manson.

[SymphonicX]

hmm. I quite liked manson's mechanical animals, great album - very intelligent and some great songs. Say what you like about him, but Mechanical was a great record. Never got into him to the point of seeing him live or scratching his name into my arm...but still, he wasn't bad for a reboot of Alice Cooper type character rock.

some emo/gothy kids can be quite defensive about both their image, and their music...and like Mo points out above, can make them come unstuck every now and then. Still there are more than a fair share of intelligent ones. I just look back on myself and remember hating all this chart music/jungle/drum and bass crap that was playing throughout my childhood, and just rebelling against it...and hearing any old chav moron extolling the virtues of the latest "jungle" track was just met with a steely glance and a complete refusal to grant any respect to that over-hyped, talentless sequenced shite.

So i can understand the emo kids defending their music to the death, because the popular alternatives are insulting to the intelligence, and always have been.

---------- Post added at 07:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 PM ----------

I'd also like to add that The Beautiful People was a manson original, whilst his cover of Sweet Dreams was originally written and performed by the Eurythmics.

[mista_mo]

Yes, thank you, I was having my doubts as to which one it actually was, as for some reason i always seem to fall back on beautiful people. Usually I wiki that stuff, and the one time that i actually don't my instincts turn out wrong.

I should also edit in that I have no real opinion on Manson, as I haven't listened too very much of his music. I'm not going to outright say an artists entire catalogue is shit based on me hearing 1 or 2 songs, but the kids reaction actually made me do a double take inside.

I'm one to talk though. My favourite band is the Barenaked Ladies, and I love the Tragically Hip as well. I guess that it ultimately comes down too what makes you happy, and if people enjoy mcr and stuff like that, then who am I to tell them that their music is complete shit and should be taken off of the air? A lot of people are like that as well though. They are so adamant in their hatred of a band or a person, that they automatically assume that their works are complete shit, and they base their opinion of them on one song, or one CD.

[SymphonicX]

hehehe its easily done

[BillyRay]

Every time I hear the term "Emo", I always think of this guy:

http://images.broadwayworld.com/columnpic2/emc2.jpg

Not a lot of diff, but hey...

[capncnut]

I usually think of this guy.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/how-elmo-works-1.jpg

Not a lot of difference either, especially in the music.

[deadpunk]

this is more about the strange fads that teenagers go through. you could apply it to any era and the results would be pretty much the same.



I Think you guys are being really harsh on emo's, like i said its a good look for girls in my opinion, a gay look for guys but still thats their choice.

Thats what teenagers do guys, they try to find new ways to express themselves and fit in with those around them and these fad's are just a way for them to do that, of course they might grow out of it but they might not, it might be a lifestyle choice that stays with them for the rest of their lives and i dont think they should be criticised for it, just like im sure all of you guys have in your lives being punks, metalheads, goths, hippies, mods, rockers.. whatever else there was, so calm down ok guys?


I find it amazing that as we grow older, we quickly toss away the memories of how hard it actually was to be a teenager. While the emo crowd might push the envelope on angst, the reality is; this is the time when we begin to search for our niche in life. Doors are closing and new doors are opening.

These kids may be perpetuating an obnoxious fashion statement (although like Andy, I find emo to be a hot look for girls) but the only thing they are guilty of is trying to establish an identity as they enter adulthood.

[SymphonicX]

but the only thing they are guilty of is trying to establish an identity as they enter adulthood.


And listening to shite music :D

[Mike70]

I find it amazing that as we grow older, we quickly toss away the memories of how hard it actually was to be a teenager.

in the case of my friends and i (this is something we have turned over quite a bit in conversation), it is more a realization of how trite, silly and ridiculous most of our positions and beliefs on life were as teenagers- and just how utterly wrong and unconnected to reality they were.

you think you have it all figured out at that age but you haven't even started on the first page of the cipher.

[capncnut]

Just please note partly why im being like this, a young girl near me was murdered by a gang of chavs simply becuase she was a goth. i knew that girl and she was one of the nicest people around.
Wow, must've missed this. It's quite eerie you mention Sophie because I not long made a memorial thread about her on another forum.

[SymphonicX]

in the case of my friends and i (this is something we have turned over quite a bit in conversation), it is more a realization of how trite, silly and ridiculous most of our positions and beliefs on life were as teenagers- and just how utterly wrong and unconnected to reality they were.

you think you have it all figured out at that age but you haven't even started on the first page of the cipher.

This is very true...I look back on myself at 19....NINETEEN...and can't believe how much of a clue I still needed to get. At 19 I was living alone, in my own house and blah blah but still, I really don't think I started to truly get a grasp on life until I was at least 23. I look back on it all, even though I never really made any stupid decisions, and still laugh at the kid I used to be. Very detached, know-it-all kid who thought he could change the world.

Man, I was an idiot.

[Mike70]

Man, I was an idiot.

that is quite an epiphany when it happens isn't it?

i just remember being excited to get out on my own, get a house with some friends and then being shocked by just how much it costs to keep yourself alive. things like, "wait a minute, toothpaste costs money? what do you mean it takes about $300 a month to feed yourself decently? water bills? electricity?" when you are growing up and living with your parents, you never really take those kinds of things into consideration.

[SymphonicX]

that is quite an epiphany when it happens isn't it?

i just remember being excited to get out on my own, get a house with some friends and then being shocked by just how much it costs to keep yourself alive. things like, "wait a minute, toothpaste costs money? what do you mean it takes about $300 a month to feed yourself decently? water bills? electricity?" when you are growing up and living with your parents, you never really take those kinds of things into consideration.


For me it was less about finances, because I had a job at that time that paid me more than I needed, so I squandered what I did have...the biggest culture shock for me was the process of actually having to go out and BUY toothpaste..."what, you mean its not delivered?" haha

Same with house cleaning, clothes washing, and worst of all (and this is still something I haven't mastered) cooking and eating decent, healthy food!!