My Thoughts on DEADSCAPES: Broken Road

[DjfunkmasterG]

After sometime, I finally picked up Cereval's DEADSCAPES DVD, and since it was in my box when i got home from work I came in, grabbed a pack of smokes, a glass of OJ and popped in the DVD.

As a beginner filmmaker I try to look at what the other noobs (please take no offense to this) are doing so I can see what kind of techniques they are using to help their stories become a film reality. I have followed Cereval's updates on Circling the Drain since I first learned about it on the original Forum's here at HPOTD. I was bummed to hear he had to let that project go, as I am sure all the hard work he put into it made it even more painful for him.

Sometime later he brings us DEADSCAPES. A short zombie horror film that actually delivers a twisted world where living amongst the dead takes it tolls physically and emotionally. What really made this project stick out for me was not the gore, or the fact it even had zombies... hell Cereval could have made these people the last 3 on earth and had a different monster subplot and I still would have enjoyed it... what made me say wow the most was the disillusioned trip the lead character was on in this film, and how his mental instability brought about change in the other characters. It was a joy to see what happens to the characters and how those who deserve their come-uppance get it.

Cereval has made a great little zombie short, that can be enjoyed as both a zombie flick as well as a look at the human psychy in a situation of dire consequence. I recommend this flick to anyone.

To Cereval,

Dude, Great job... I thought it was a great little flick, and I look forward to episode 2.

Dj

[Cereval]

Thanks, I appreciate it man. I take feedback from my peers a little differently than from just fans. Filmmakers view other people's stuff with different eyes and it's nice to hear this side of it. Again, thanks - the support is much appreciated.


Sometime later he brings us DEADSCAPES. A short zombie horror film that actually delivers a twisted world where living amongst the dead takes it tolls physically and emotionally. What really made this project stick out for me was not the gore, or the fact it even had zombies... hell Cereval could have made these people the last 3 on earth and had a different monster subplot and I still would have enjoyed it... what made me say wow the most was the disillusioned trip the lead character was on in this film, and how his mental instability brought about change in the other characters. It was a joy to see what happens to the characters and how those who deserve their come-uppance get it.

Cereval has made a great little zombie short, that can be enjoyed as both a zombie flick as well as a look at the human psychy in a situation of dire consequence. I recommend this flick to anyone.

To Cereval,

Dude, Great job... I thought it was a great little flick, and I look forward to episode 2.

Dj

If there's one thing that makes this kind of reaction fulfilling, it the acknowledgement of the storyline. Like I've said before, if there's one thing that separates George's dead films from the rest, it's the focus on people - not zombies. My main homage to The Man is trying to stay true to this very thing.

It makes it all worthwhile when another fan / filmmaker actually picks up on this, but enjoys it as well. :)

Keep me (us) posted on Deadlands and so you know, I'm in full support of the next guy when it comes to indie so keep in touch.

Cereval

[Neil]

Time line jumps/flash backs are all hard to pull off... But you performed them very well - Even down to the subtle soundtrack "nudges" to help the audience realise the jumps were taking place etc...

[MinionZombie]

"Soundtrack nudges"...you mean like in Lost when they have that weird...plane noise sound...whenever they move from present day to past and vice versa.

If I had some money to spend I'd definately order Deadscapes...but at the moment I'm rather strapped for cash - but it's on my list, hey, maybe I'll win a million on the Premium Bonds this month and then I can go on a spree :D ... yeh, I wish!

[DjfunkmasterG]

It was the one thing I noticed in the short that really impressed me. The characters and their changes throughout the event.

You lead was one evil muther****er... and I liked it. :evil:

[Cereval]

Time line jumps/flash backs are all hard to pull off... But you performed them very well - Even down to the subtle soundtrack "nudges" to help the audience realise the jumps were taking place etc...

Whew thanks! I was hoping it would be convincing and not that confusing ... :)

I'd never done a proper score before and learned a lot about this kind of technique along the way, along with stuff like the repeated melody, etc.


If I had some money to spend I'd definately order Deadscapes...but at the moment I'm rather strapped for cash - but it's on my list, hey, maybe I'll win a million on the Premium Bonds this month and then I can go on a spree :D ... yeh, I wish!

There is the free VCD version ... but of course, saving up for the DVD is not something I'll try and talk you out of ... :skull:


It was the one thing I noticed in the short that really impressed me. The characters and their changes throughout the event.

You lead was one evil muther****er... and I liked it. :evil:

I love memorable characters in movies ... seeing them put through trials and tribulations is so much fun - especially when they're evil muther****ers! :sneaky:

[Neil]

Whew thanks! I was hoping it would be convincing and not that confusing ... :)

I'd never done a proper score before and learned a lot about this kind of technique along the way, along with stuff like the repeated melody, etc.


No I was very impressed by that! You made it look easy... Which means you did it well.

I suspect (for you) it's also hard to watch it and know if you've done it well cos you're so on top of the project it's hard to "step away"...

[Cereval]

I suspect (for you) it's also hard to watch it and know if you've done it well cos you're so on top of the project it's hard to "step away"...

Actually, that's very true ... I don't have enough distance from it enough to watch it with fresh eyes yet.

[MinionZombie]

I find the exact same thing myself, you can be as judicious with editing down the footage as you like - but you'll never be critical (to the right degree) until quite some time later when you haven't been 'near' the project. The old addage of the artist is his greatest critic is very true, but perhaps too critical. The artist views it in minute detail from very close, while the viewer - who sees it all cobbled together (as if it just appeared at the click of a finger) - sees the whole picture, which essentially 'smoothes over' any flaws (unless they're fundamental).

Once I've been 'off' a project for a while I find I can then go back and be critical in a new vein, and am then able to analyse my work - find the good and find the bad and work towards a better next piece.

[Adrenochrome]

Time line jumps/flash backs are all hard to pull off... But you performed them very well - Even down to the subtle soundtrack "nudges" to help the audience realise the jumps were taking place etc...
that's what did it for me!
The first time my gal and I watched it there was this "huh?" thing going on for about 5 minutes.....then I started seeing the "flashback" thing.... He pulled it off!

I host a "movie night" here at the house once a month and one night I showed this.....now, most of the time we poke fun at the B Movies and comment loudly (Mystery Science Theater 3000-like) throughout the night - When I played Deadscapes and explained where it came from, the room was silent and watched the entire thing, extras and all. It may be a "short" but it ain't no B-Flick -
For a short film to use "flashback" AND pull it off is a great accomplishment!
It's rare that a short film can cram so much in to so little time.

where's the rest of it?:D

[Pistolero Films]

I got the free VCD (many thanks!) and have passed it on to many friends. The biggest accomplishment here is GETTING IT DONE. And I think it got done in a professional manner. At the beginning of the film I thought, here we go, we'll see a bunch of blue face painted zombies bumping around in a slow-motion mosh pit...the characters are what made this film and also the location. I love the beat-up motorhome.

Good work and can't wait to see more of these shorts!

[Cereval]

Once I've been 'off' a project for a while I find I can then go back and be critical in a new vein, and am then able to analyse my work - find the good and find the bad and work towards a better next piece.

It's been 3 months ... I've tried a few times to go back and see if my eyes have reset when watching it, but it's still not time. It'll be a good day when this happens.


where's the rest of it?:D

There's more a-comin' ... keep your fingers crossed. :skull:


I got the free VCD (many thanks!) and have passed it on to many friends. The biggest accomplishment here is GETTING IT DONE. And I think it got done in a professional manner. At the beginning of the film I thought, here we go, we'll see a bunch of blue face painted zombies bumping around in a slow-motion mosh pit...the characters are what made this film and also the location. I love the beat-up motorhome.

Good work and can't wait to see more of these shorts!

Right on! Thanks for helping spread the word. I'm also glad to know that you're able to appreciate it on these levels. A lot of films I see in this genre seem to have that "slow-motion mosh pit" mentality and I've never gotten it either ... I've always felt there should be bit more. Again, thanks for the support. :)

[7734]

The only thing that really sticks out to me in this short movie is that when homie let the gas can drop, he wasn't quick enough to pick it up before all five gallons spilled out,

Besides, because when laying flat the nozzle is still above the ground, then there should still be gas in the can.

Also, stupid people get killed quick in these times; personally i don't really care about their stories, only if it's for gory background.

Bah... other than that, i respect all efforts.

[HLS]

Yes, it was a neat movie. I just loved the sound track. DJ put it all in such great words:D

[Cereval]

The only thing that really sticks out to me in this short movie is that when homie let the gas can drop, he wasn't quick enough to pick it up before all five gallons spilled out,

Besides, because when laying flat the nozzle is still above the ground, then there should still be gas in the can.

Also, stupid people get killed quick in these times; personally i don't really care about their stories, only if it's for gory background.

Bah... other than that, i respect all efforts.

This is one of the few compromises I made in such a small script. When writing scenarios, sometimes you have to cut corners to make the story work ... the gas spilling was one such instance.

If and when I rationlize the scene, I often point out that the guy really is stupid. And stupid people do stupid things. And as you've mentioned, this is why they die.

[MinionZombie]

I figured that was the rationality behind that guy dropping the petrol tank, I just sat there thinking "what a plonker - he now deserves to get munched on" :elol:. It's kinda nice (in an evil-ish way) to watch plonkers get chewed on. :evil:

[Cereval]

I figured that was the rationality behind that guy dropping the petrol tank, I just sat there thinking "what a plonker - he now deserves to get munched on" :elol:. It's kinda nice (in an evil-ish way) to watch plonkers get chewed on. :evil:

And in writing characters like this, that's kind of the goal - to get the audience to feel like the guy's a plonker. At least that becomes the reason.

[Danny]

yeah, we all love to see the bad guy fail though dont we, its like randal flagg at the end of the stand or something, everybody loves it when the bastards get what they deserve.:)

[MinionZombie]

I liked the guy who 'owns' the camper van, he's such a dickhead, a complete prick up his own ass with his 'righteous' class warfare diatribe and his 'I'm harder than Action Man' posturing - he's such a dick, so it's fun to hate him and boo him. :elol:

[capncnut]

Totally agree but he had that slappable but likeable face. He would have been cool as a good guy methinks.

[Suicycho]

I thought Deadscapes was great.

The twist with the woman was unexpected and enjoyable.

Can't wait for pt 2

[Cereval]

I liked the guy who 'owns' the camper van, he's such a dickhead, a complete prick up his own ass with his 'righteous' class warfare diatribe and his 'I'm harder than Action Man' posturing - he's such a dick, so it's fun to hate him and boo him. :elol:

Ken (CTD alumni) was a hard guy to make mean. I mean, he's the nicest most likeable dude. To make him hated took a bit of effort.


Totally agree but he had that slappable but likeable face. He would have been cool as a good guy methinks.

This is sort of a scary thought, but I see your point. He was the meanest looking guy I had for the part so he lost the good guy angle.


I thought Deadscapes was great.

The twist with the woman was unexpected and enjoyable.

Can't wait for pt 2

Thanks. I'm hoping Deadscapes II will prove just as enjoyable. :)

[ngm231]

where can i get a copy and for how much?

[Cereval]

where can i get a copy and for how much?

It's available on Amazon ... CLICK HERE (http://www.amazon.com/Deadscapes-Broken-Road/dp/B000J6H1B6/sr=8-1/qid=1167576291/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-3032375-2383638?ie=UTF8&s=dvd). :skull:

[ngm231]

thanks
:skull:

[capncnut]

This is sort of a scary thought, but I see your point. He was the meanest looking guy I had for the part so he lost the good guy angle.
Yeah, Ive been watching it more and I'm kinda getting to like the character. He has some valid points.


Thanks. I'm hoping Deadscapes II will prove just as enjoyable. :)
Any more updates?

[Cereval]

Any more updates?

Things are slow-going on the Deadscapes front, as I know they would be. Wintertime for this episode was not planned with any production time in mind. Although before Spring time breaks completely, I'm thinking of re-writing the script a bit for II - expanding a little in certain areas. Things are a bit more busy on the band (http://www.echoesofruin.com) front at the moment. Spring and Summer will hopefully raise the dead.

[capncnut]

Nice, nice. Good luck with Echoes too man.

[MinionZombie]

Indeed, good luck with your endeavours that are forth coming Sir Evil! :):thumbsup: