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SRP76
17-Feb-2010, 07:55 PM
Argentina:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100217/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_falklands


By GREGORY KATZ and RAPHAEL G. SATTER, Associated Press Writers Gregory Katz And Raphael G. Satter, Associated Press Writers – 6 mins ago
LONDON – Argentina's demand for direct control of shipping from the South American mainland to the Falkland Islands has raised fears about conflict over energy resources in the south Atlantic.

Britain triumphed when the old antagonists fought in 1982 for control of the sparsely populated islands. National pride was at stake, along with bruised feelings from the colonial era and the disputed loyalty of the Falklanders themselves.

This time, the confrontation is over something more tangible: control of substantial oil and gas reserves that are expected to generate thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in the coming decades.

On Wednesday, Britain's Foreign Office rejected Argentine President Cristina Fernandez's announcement the day before that ships traveling from the South American mainland would need a license from Argentina to travel to the Falklands, known in Argentina as the Malvinas.

Britannia rules those waves, ministers said, stating that the Argentine policy would not apply in Falkland territorial waters.

"We have no doubt about our sovereignty over the Falkland Islands and we're clear that the Falkland Islands government is entitled to develop a hydrocarbons industry within its waters," Foreign Office Minister Chris Bryant said in a statement.

Bryant insisted that Britain wouldn't easily be provoked. "We're monitoring the situation closely, but we're not going to react to every development in Argentina," he said.

Legislator Andrew Rosindell, secretary of the parliamentary committee dealing with the Falklands, said it would be dangerous to ignore Argentina's provocative stance.

"Any attempt by Argentina to claim any sort of rights of sovereignty over that region is something we should take very seriously," he said. "I don't think we should appease Buenos Aires — we found out what happens last time."

But he said fresh military conflict is unlikely because Argentina knows it cannot successfully challenge Britain, which keeps Royal Navy ships on patrol there.

"This is typical grandstanding, but they know the British are well prepared and this is a battle they cannot win."

He said ship captains should ignore the new Argentine policy when they transit from international waters into the seas surrounding the Falklands, which he described as sovereign British waters.

Humphrey Maud, who served as Britain's first ambassador to Argentina after the Falklands conflict, said Argentina's announcement is a serious and worrying development that completely violates the agreement that led to a resumption of diplomatic relations after the war.

He said the Argentines may be angling for a slice of the south Atlantic territory's oil wealth — something he believes Britain would never accept.

"They have at their heart a very crude feeling that if there's oil there, they want a very large part of it," he said, adding that any British concession to Argentine demands was extremely unlikely.

"We are absolutely convinced of our own right and sovereignty over the islands," the recently retired diplomat said. "The islanders have an absolute right to conduct commercial relations as they see fit."

Britain and Argentina have disputed sovereignty over the islands since the early 19th century, and negotiations over their status dragged on until early 1982, when Argentina's military dictatorship opted to take the territory back by force.

The Argentines invaded on April 2, sparking a brief war in which some 650 Argentine troops, more than 250 British personnel and three islanders were killed.

Argentine forces surrendered 10 weeks later, an event which led to the collapse of the country's unpopular military junta and the restoration of civilian rule in 1983. In Britain, the military triumph greatly boosted the popularity of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

Britain and Argentina re-established full diplomatic ties in 1990, but Buenos Aires continues to claim the islands as its own, even though it has made a commitment not to use force to press its claim.

Nicholas Winterton, director of the all-party Falklands group, said Argentina is trying to derail the development of the Falklands by blocking oil and gas development.

"All they are trying to do is impede the economic progress of the Falkland Islands, because of course the encouragement of hydrocarbon exploration in the area is an important part of achieving a sustainable future for the islands," he said.

Several British oil companies plan to start exploration of the area with an offshore rig, and numerous areas have been licensed for development of oil and natural gas reserves.

Some are skeptical that major oil fields can be found in the Atlantic, particularly in the area east of the Falklands.

"The only certainty is that so far there has not been a drop of oil or gas produced in that basin," said Daniel Gerold, director of G&G Energy Consultants in Buenos Aires. "The chances of success are very slim."

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Didn't the British whip their asses in the 80s over the Falklands? Yes, yes they did. And Argentina didn't learn its lesson?

They need to just give it up. No sense getting your ass beat every 20 years.

AcesandEights
17-Feb-2010, 08:34 PM
Now this sounds so much more interesting than it will probably end up being (which is actually a good thing).

Danny
17-Feb-2010, 08:35 PM
Didn't the British whip their asses in the 80s over the Falklands? Yes, yes they did. And Argentina didn't learn its lesson?

They need to just give it up. No sense getting your ass beat every 20 years.

Yeah but they smell oil money, that makes any countries leaders dollar eyed and retard strong.

darth los
17-Feb-2010, 09:33 PM
retard strong.

Careful dude. Sarah Palin might get wind of that comment and send you a sternly worded e-mail. :p

:cool:

Tricky
17-Feb-2010, 09:44 PM
To be fair if they made a play for the Falklands now they would probably get them, we have a small garrison there, one destroyer & I think a couple of Typhoons, the rest of our forces are tied up in Afghanistan & some still in Iraq, the units we have back in Britain are TA units or regulars who are on rest periods from Afghan deployments, theres no way we could launch a task force like we did in '82 :( Successive governments (mainly the one currently in power) have downsized & scrapped most of our military so unless we pulled troops away from Afghan we couldnt do much about the argies other than sending a nuclear sub out there as a warning. Gordon Brown wouldnt have the balls to do anything either! Luckily the Argentine military is in too poor a state to do anything by all accounts!

Mike70
18-Feb-2010, 03:49 AM
when will these silly fuckers learn that the falklands belong to the UK. period and full stop.

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To be fair if they made a play for the Falklands now they would probably get them, we have a small garrison there, one destroyer & I think a couple of Typhoons, the rest of our forces are tied up in Afghanistan

argentina may well be just rattling the proverbial sabres before HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales are commissioned. when they are, the Royal Navy is going to have some first rate deep strike capability from two of the finest aircraft carriers in the world. when you couple them with the type 45 destroyers being built, the royal navy is going to have some serious striking power.

maybe the argentines feel like this is their last gasp.