Anybody Remember a Former Poster Here? (Jeff Weise)

[Dawg]

I was looking through some old notebooks crammed under my dust-filled bed and found a local paper from March of 2005.

I couldn't remember at first why I kept this particular issue until I read the headline of the article on the front page: Minnesota Shooter Had Troubled Past

It was about Jeff Weise, the 16-year-old boy who went on a shooting spree that killed nine people before shooting himself.

As I recall, he posted on here from time to time. I also believe Neil removed his posts after this happened because he didn't want to give the site any negative news coverage.

I can't believe it has been five years since then and the fact that someone who posted here did that, but then again this site is enjoyed by many people the world over, and Neil does a great job keeping it together all of these years.

Sad memories for sure. :(

Dawg

[krakenslayer]

I was looking through some old notebooks crammed under my dust-filled bed and found a local paper from March of 2005.

I couldn't remember at first why I kept this particular issue until I read the headline of the article on the front page: Minnesota Shooter Had Troubled Past

It was about Jeff Weise, the 16-year-old boy who went on a shooting spree that killed nine people before shooting himself.

As I recall, he posted on here from time to time. I also believe Neil removed his posts after this happened because he didn't want to give the site any negative news coverage.

I can't believe it has been five years since then and the fact that someone who posted here did that, but then again this site is enjoyed by many people the world over, and Neil does a great job keeping it together all of these years.

Sad memories for sure. :(

Dawg

What was his screen name? Anyone remember? I know his posts are gone but i'm just curious - I used to post on a lot of different horror/zombie forums, so it's possible I knew him but was unaware.

[Danny]

before my time but i know what your on about. seems to be one of those whackjobs that leaves behind a goddamn legacy of retard. like that guy who 'patrolled' his town for vampires because it was built on a hellmouth.:rolleyes:

[Neil]

I was looking through some old notebooks crammed under my dust-filled bed and found a local paper from March of 2005.

I couldn't remember at first why I kept this particular issue until I read the headline of the article on the front page: Minnesota Shooter Had Troubled Past

It was about Jeff Weise, the 16-year-old boy who went on a shooting spree that killed nine people before shooting himself.

As I recall, he posted on here from time to time. I also believe Neil removed his posts after this happened because he didn't want to give the site any negative news coverage.

I can't believe it has been five years since then and the fact that someone who posted here did that, but then again this site is enjoyed by many people the world over, and Neil does a great job keeping it together all of these years.

Sad memories for sure. :(

Dawg

Indeed... He had a fiction contribution here too ("City of the Damned").

We had accounts being created here by journalists sniffing for information/a story. I managed to get them to agree to give them a bit of info if they kept the site's name out of their stories...


http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/jeff-weise2.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Weise


At age eight, his father had committed suicide in July 1997 after a day-long police standoff on the Red Lake reservation. The senior Lussier had tried to intervene in the event, but failed to bring the standoff to a peaceful end. Jeff's mother was a violent alcoholic who often took out her anger on Jeff.

[axlish]

His user name was Blades

[Neil]

His user name was Blades

Blades11 wasn't it?

[paulannett]

Blades11 is right, yeah.

I used to chat to him on MSN messenger. Seemed like an alright fella, though he did have some whacked out ideas which I put down to him "being yet another overly emo guy on the net."

I was contacted by the New York Times and a local paper of his regarding it, they wanted me to send them all the stories he sent me (we'd often critique eachothers writing).

I checked his MSN profile a week or so after he'd shot up his school and himself. It was filled with Nazi quotes, suicidal quotes and quotes basically saying, "Take down as many as you can before you fall" (that is paraphrased). His profile picture was taken from a film based on the Columbine shootings.

Prior to this his stories were mostly based in High School in which he was the hero who saved the day and got the girl. He also showed me an animation of a GTA scenario, a guy shoots up a park, blows up police cars and then blows his own brains out.


Put it all together, you've got a school shooter! Hindsight is 20/20.

[mista_mo]

I vaguely remember him....He seemed alright at the time, but i do not believe that i had any regular contact with him in the forum, or otherwise, so i cannot really comment on how he was in the forum at all. It is amazing, and makes you think that when it all comes down to it, we really don't know much, if anything about the people that we call friends, or even just people we see regularly on this forum.

Slimey fuck though. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain he inflicted on the families of the people he killed. Don't get me wrong, I do feel immensely sad and sorry for him, for the shit that he went through at home and at school, but that does not wash his hands of the horrible things that he partook in. He still murdered 9 people, and injured 5 others during the course of the shooting.

[wayzim]

Blades11 is right, yeah.

I used to chat to him on MSN messenger. Seemed like an alright fella, though he did have some whacked out ideas which I put down to him "being yet another overly emo guy on the net."

I was contacted by the New York Times and a local paper of his regarding it, they wanted me to send them all the stories he sent me (we'd often critique eachothers writing).

I checked his MSN profile a week or so after he'd shot up his school and himself. It was filled with Nazi quotes, suicidal quotes and quotes basically saying, "Take down as many as you can before you fall" (that is paraphrased). His profile picture was taken from a film based on the Columbine shootings.

Prior to this his stories were mostly based in High School in which he was the hero who saved the day and got the girl. He also showed me an animation of a GTA scenario, a guy shoots up a park, blows up police cars and then blows his own brains out.


Put it all together, you've got a school shooter! Hindsight is 20/20.

Only in Hindsight, man.
Many folks can play at being wacked but realistically only a few take it beyond a certain point.

Never ran across Blade11, but as I've collected the nicest, funniest, and wierdest of responses to my fiction, a few had me alittle worried.
One was from a LaTinLadee (8/00) who gushed enthusiastically before including the comment "But then again, I'm a Nobody. "
Another was kinda sweet, from Tellobiafra(1/02), a then sixteen year old kid, who was inspired by Mary's sacrifice in 'DeadFall: Foreshadow.' but kinda went on at great length about the meaning behind it all.
Tho there was nothing specific in either post, sometimes it does make you wonder what kind of an audience you have.

I did try to contact them, just to check up, but neither answered back.

Oh, and the funniest one was Mogons(10/00) who admitted to being totally wasted as (he?) read 'Preservation of a Species. ' and asked several specific questions, some of which appeared inspired by 'From Dusk Until Dawn.'
And if any of those I mentioned are still lurking around, you guys rock.

Wayne Z

'That one's life is no where near as great as what that Life can give. I don't mean die for America or the American people, but for any one person or people. Life is to great to waste thats why I do not believe in nationalism because it has caused far to many wars. '
Tellobiafra

[AcesandEights]

I was only vaguely active on the boards at that time, but this does come up every so often on the boards.

Like Mo, I can't imagine the ripple effect of pain this guy must have caused in the lives of others. So messed up.

[Neil]

I was only vaguely active on the boards at that time, but this does come up every so often on the boards.

Like Mo, I can't imagine the ripple effect of pain this guy must have caused in the lives of others. So messed up.

It's hard to picture the horrible outcome with this picture isn't it...

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/big8atitsbestnews/Jeff%20Weise%20%2016%20%20shown%20in%20this%20unda ted%20family%20photo%20%20is%20accused%20of%20kill ing%20nine%20people%20in%20a%20shooting%20spree.jp g


http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/229936

[MikePizzoff]

I do remember him from here. I can also remember when someone posted the horrible news of what he did. Not sure if I was active at that point, or if I was lurking (I went back and forth back then), but I surely remember the name and the story.

[krakenslayer]

Yeah, it's pretty freaky. I'm actually surprised we've not seen more of this kind of thing; I think for a lot of people (not all, not even a significant percentage, but still a lot in terms of numbers) an imaginary outbreak of zombies represents a guilt-free outlet for murderous impulses, mirroring how they view the world they live in (themselves against virtually the rest of the planet) and offering a simple way to deal with the problem (a bullet in the head) removing all the tough complexities of real world problems and relationships. I've known a fair few people who lived in that fantasy world, and it's not a healthy place. Most of them would never act on those fantasies, but there are hundreds of them out there, and since HPotD is probably the epicentre of online zombie fandom... let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if Blades11 isn't the last member to do something like this.

I hasten to add, though, that zombie movies DO NOT make nutters, but nutters are ATTRACTED TO zombie movies (making up only a small percentage of overall zombie fans). I could draw you a Venn Diagram for that, but... I can't be arsed.... :lol:

[Danny]

Yeah, it's pretty freaky. I'm actually surprised we've not seen more of this kind of thing; I think for a lot of people (not all, not even a significant percentage, but still a lot in terms of numbers) an imaginary outbreak of zombies represents a guilt-free outlet for murderous impulses, mirroring how they view the world they live in (themselves against virtually the rest of the planet) and offering a simple way to deal with the problem (a bullet in the head) removing all the tough complexities of real world problems and relationships. I've known a fair few people who lived in that fantasy world, and it's not a healthy place. Most of them would never act on those fantasies, but there are hundreds of them out there, and since HPotD is probably the epicentre of online zombie fandom... let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if Blades11 isn't the last member to do something like this.

I hasten to add, though, that zombie movies DO NOT make nutters, but nutters are ATTRACTED TO zombie movies (making up only a small percentage of overall zombie fans). I could draw you a Venn Diagram for that, but... I can't be arsed.... :lol:

ive honestly thought the same thing myself, theres tons of people of a more isolationist nature who dream of stuff like that. I vaguely remember someone on the older boards who professed a love for some idea along the lines of "picking up a huge fucking gun and blowing all the 'sheep' away". more often than not its the guy who would fuck his shotgun if he could.
Like you say, not everyone who likes zombie movies is like that, i know i sure dont, but the idea for all the rules these disturbed people live by could one day be removed is the dream for some of these unhinged types.

[major jay]

I think for a lot of people (not all, not even a significant percentage, but still a lot in terms of numbers) an imaginary outbreak of zombies represents a guilt-free outlet for murderous impulses

When I first found this place I thought it would be jammed packed with liberal thinking types (Romero is an extreme liberal) but was surprised that there were so many conservatives. It just goes to show that his material attracts all types, which is kind of amazing.

[axlish]

When georgearomero.com shut the forums down, Blades11 and another user created a forum which myself and a few others flocked to as a recue station of sorts. I believe the forums here were down at the time. Anyway, I posted a lot with Blades and the few others there for some time, and to be honest, nothing out of the ordinary comes to mind at all. The same goes for his posting on here.

[Mr.G]

Ignorant question but unless he came out and told everyone his name, how the hell did everyone know his id?

[strayrider]

Ignorant question but unless he came out and told everyone his name, how the hell did everyone know his id?

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/03/22_ap_redlakesuspect/

"Weise's Hotmail address links him to frequent postings on one Internet forum called "Rise of the Dead," a site where contributors collaborate on stories about "average people attempting to survive in a zombie-infested world," according to the site.

Weise, posting under the handle "Blades11," appeared to be a regular contributor to numerous fan fiction sites related to zombies. On one, Weise identifies himself as being from Red Lake and lists himself as an amateur writer.

He goes on to write, "I'm a fan of zombie films, have been for years, as well as fan of horror movies in general. I like to write horror stories, read about Nazi Germany and history, and someday plan on moving out of the US.""

I used to be the administrator for "Rise of the Dead". Yeah, I knew the bastard (though not very well, thankfully).

:mad:

-stray-

[Wooley]

Yeah, I remember that. Jeff isn't the only infamous person who posted to a board I was on either. There was a militia guy on a gun/survival board who got into a shootout with the police and a Muslim US soldier on AR15.com got sent up for treason I think for trying to pass information on weak points in US armored vehicles to Al Queda. Oh, and the moderator on Rougesci.org got busted after going on the run for killing his roomate.

Lots of "Wow, just wow" moments there.

[Neil]

Oh, and the moderator on Rougesci.org got busted after going on the run for killing his roomate.

Yeh! The authorities can be really funny about that sort of thing!

[Tricky]

There are some frightening people out there! Its part of the reason I dont really talk about being a member of this forum or even of visiting it to my real world friends! The vast majority of people I know wouldd probably be a bit weirded out & look at me as if im some horror obsessed nut job! To be fair im only really here now for the "living forums" section, I was far more into zombie films & horror in my teens than I am now but I found this site after watching Dawn '04 at the cinema & just kind of stuck around after that! :D I do still watch the odd zombie film & some horrors if I hear really good reviews, but im nowhere near fanboy territory these days. Im not blaming any forums for making people like Weise the way they are/were, but you have to admit horror & survivalist forums do attract a few people you wouldnt want to bump into down a dark alleyway...

[Publius]

To be fair im only really here now for the "living forums" section

Only here for the living forums? But...

Oh. I see how it is. So you're too good for us all-forums types, is that it? Nah, nah, it's alright, it's cool. You won't hurt our feelings.

*sniff*

Miuch.

:D

[Tricky]

Only here for the living forums? But...

Oh. I see how it is. So you're too good for us all-forums types, is that it? Nah, nah, it's alright, it's cool. You won't hurt our feelings.

*sniff*

Miuch.

:D

But...but you know I wuvs you guys! :p

But really though, I dont have a real lot to talk about on horror these days, but I like a good waffle about current affairs, gossip etc! :D

[MinionZombie]

I know what you mean, you kinda run out of things to talk about - like I've exhausted most of my talk about GAR flicks now, until a new one comes out of course - and with Survival on it's way, that's a fresh avenue.

I still talk about horror a fair bit, but a lot of my posting does take place in the "living forums", but I stick around here because of the community itself, it's relatively small - but tight.

First one to drop some innuendo wins my respect. :D

...

As for what this thread's all about, I remember when that happened, and yeah - it was a case of "wow. just wow." :stunned:

[SymphonicX]

it's relatively small - but tight.

First one to drop some innuendo wins my respect. :D


"That's what Gary Glitter said"
"Just like your mom!"

There's two for ya...

[AcesandEights]

I know what you mean, you kinda run out of things to talk about...

Then you just recycle the topic.

Hey, what would be your weapon of choice in the event of an actual SHTF zombie apocalypse? You can pick a sidearm, main weapon (feel free to include all the add-ons you like) and melee weapon. Go.

:clown:

[Blades11]

Was some good times.. Hows it feel knowin' it's been nearly 12 years? Sucks...
I would like to issue a formal apology for my actions, but I thoroughly enjoyed the time I shared with some of my friends from here.