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darth los
25-Feb-2010, 04:57 PM
Pretty interesting list. I actually forgot about a couple of them. Were any left off that you felt shouldn't have been?
The top slot was very predictable, And yes the ps3 comes AFTER intellevision !?! :confused:
http://www.ign.com/top-25-consoles/
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AcesandEights
25-Feb-2010, 05:09 PM
It's amazing to me that there have been enough consoles released that being on the latter half of this list can even seem anywhere near noteworthy.
Danny
25-Feb-2010, 05:23 PM
the NES is number 1? pfft, yeah right, it had its greats but theres more shit on that system than the ps2 and wii combined. total nostalgia vision.:bored:
darth los
25-Feb-2010, 05:29 PM
It's also interesting how they are judging them.
The 360 for example is obviously a better console than any that were rated higher than it but apparently they are going on nostalgia and the overall impact that the system had which is not really fair because we don't know what the impact of the current gen consoles will ultimately be.
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the NES is number 1? pfft, yeah right, it had its greats but theres more shit on that system than the ps2 and wii combined. total nostalgia vision.:bored:
Jinx. Buy me a coke !! :lol:
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Danny
25-Feb-2010, 05:39 PM
It's also interesting how they are judging them.
The 360 for example is obviously a better console than any that were rated higher than it but apparently they are going on nostalgia and the overall impact that the system had which is not really fair because we don't know what the impact of the current gen consoles will ultimately be.
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Jinx. Buy me a coke !! :lol:
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i know right?, lets play silent hill 2, or mass effect. -OOP, wait, let me eject the disk and blow it because it doesnt fucking work the first dozen times. Its total nostalgia vision. i still have a nes set up right next to my other consoles, but do i want to play mario bros. or super mario galaxy? im going to go with the one with intuitive controls, beautiful graphics and an orchestral soundtrack.
This is nostalgia, nothing more.
-also, i think the ps3 is superior to the 360 hardware wise and reliability speaking but you would NOT have online play as it is today on consoles without the xbox, its impact was massive.
bassman
25-Feb-2010, 06:20 PM
I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the #1 decision. It's not so much about the quality of the games as it is about the impact the system had on the industry. And NES did have a HUGE impact.
NES really put gaming in everybody's home rather than just your average gamer's.
Danny
25-Feb-2010, 06:25 PM
I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the #1 decision. It's not so much about the quality of the games as it is about the impact the system had on the industry. And NES did have a HUGE impact.
NES really put gaming in everybody's home rather than just your average gamer's.
i call shenanigans, stuff like the atari did that long before. not saying the nes isnt great, but its not the best console of all time, simple as that.
darth los
25-Feb-2010, 06:36 PM
I believe hells and I pointed out the impact that these other consoles had. However, let's not confuse impact with better.
Bob cousy had a huge impact on the NBA in the 50's and 60's as the point guard for the virtually invinceble Boston Celtics which is evidenced by his like 9 championship rings or something to that effect.
However, he would get abused by today's guards, just as the NES and atari would get abused by the current GEN.
Let's just say that they were great for the era that they were in but it's a different game now. ;)
Impact yes, but to say they are better consoles is intellectually dishonest, imo.
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bassman
25-Feb-2010, 06:45 PM
Am I the only one that read the second paragraph on the first page of this list?:confused:
Each console on the list ahead was selected for its influence on the industry and the gaming culture as a whole, with special consideration for their benchmark titles, peripherals, monetary success, and total hardware sold. But beyond sales figures and critical reception, one of the biggest contributing factors in our ranking process was our lasting impressions of each console, and how it contributed to our love for gaming and inspired us to become involved in the industry.
MinionZombie
25-Feb-2010, 06:57 PM
Sega Mega Drive at #5 ... noiiice.
Still got my Mega Drive 2 stored away in my cupboard.
CoinReturn
25-Feb-2010, 08:09 PM
Can't say I disagree with #1. For it's time it was mindblowing, and the way games controlled and played was a huge step up from what people were used to. If it weren't for the NES being the phoenix rising from the ashes of the videogame crash, who knows where this form of entertainment would be.
Mario is still the biggest name in gaming, all thanks to that little gray box.
Also, 8-bit music kicks all kind of ass.
darth los
25-Feb-2010, 08:52 PM
For it's time it was mindblowing
Exactly my point. :D
With that said i just purchased New Super Mario Bros. Yesterday. :o
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SRP76
25-Feb-2010, 09:26 PM
I disagree with most of the list. But #1 is deserving.
I take your non-fun, tech-whore "games" that are out for the current systems, and piss on them. That's right, piss on them. They suck. SUCK.
MikePizzoff
25-Feb-2010, 10:22 PM
Side note: Blowing on NES cartridges did NOT do anything to help enable them to play. In fact, it did nothing at all except blow air and spit onto your cartridge.
krakenslayer
25-Feb-2010, 10:44 PM
Side note: Blowing on NES cartridges did NOT do anything to help enable them to play. In fact, it did nothing at all except blow air and spit onto your cartridge.
I'm pretty sure dust on the connections caused the game to fail. Hence blowing helped remove dust and cause it to work. I know it worked for me: I wrote off several games as "broken" when I was a kid, only to discover the blowing trick fixed them a few months later.
You're right though, that the official Nintendo line was "don't blow on em" because saliva was harmful to the metal connectors. But they sold cartridge cleaners, etc. so they also had an axe to grind.
Publius
25-Feb-2010, 11:33 PM
It's amazing to me that there have been enough consoles released that being on the latter half of this list can even seem anywhere near noteworthy.
Yeah really. It doesn't seem like a very exclusive club. About all they left off is those cheapo video game systems they sell at swap meets with built-in games. :p
SRP76
26-Feb-2010, 12:26 AM
Well, they did leave off the Channel F, which is the real first system with separate game cartridges. That should have been on there instead of the Odyssey.
But when you make a Top 25 systems when only 28 systems exist, how "exclusive" do you expect it to be? You can't count knockoffs of existing systems as systems in their own right, since they're just copies. Although if you did, you could probably make a Top 25 just for the Atari 2600 clones.
MinionZombie
26-Feb-2010, 11:22 AM
I would blow on my Mega Drive cartridges as well when they got temperamental, same goes for inside the Mega Drive itself - all I'd do is swallow any spit and make sure my mouth was dry before gusting breath into the Mega Drive/cartridges and bingo - working.
If only you could fix modern consoles by blowing on them...
MikePizzoff
26-Feb-2010, 12:42 PM
I'm pretty sure dust on the connections caused the game to fail. Hence blowing helped remove dust and cause it to work. I know it worked for me: I wrote off several games as "broken" when I was a kid, only to discover the blowing trick fixed them a few months later.
Negative, sir. The thing which caused games to fail was not dust; it was the connectors inside the system itself. Inside each NES there is a piece that allows the mother board to the cartridge via metal. However, Nintendo cut corners on production by using a cheap type of metal (unsure what exactly). This metal would "stretch" out of shape over time, and become so separated that it couldn't properly make contact with the cartridge.
Bear in mind, it is not one long metal strip or something, it's a bunch of small "pins", like this:
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
The cartridge is slid in between U & n, obviously.
Sometimes a set of U & n would be slightly separated; enough that it would cause that annoying flashing color screen :mad:. However, due to you ejecting and reinserting the game repeatedly, you'd get lucky and have it make just enough contact to work.
Don't believe me? Open up your NES and bend the connectors back to form. Make sure not to blow on any of your games then try to play them; they will work. Trust me - I've fixed many NES systems.
However, the best thing to do is just buy a new connector piece altogether, for like $7-10. There are companies that make them with a better grade of metal.
Damn, that was the last thing I wanted to type whilst hungover at 7:30 in the morning.
SRP76
28-Feb-2010, 03:06 AM
I never gave my NES games a blowjob. I know a lot of people did, but I didn't think it would work.
The trouble I always had was the annoying on/off blinking when I inserted a game. Instead of taking the game out, I was guilty of side-slappage. I'd simply beat on the side of the NES until the game worked. Today I realize that's not the official repair method, but I was like 10 years old, what do you expect.
It always did work, incredibly. The NES never did full-on shit the bed. Now that I think of it, I can't remember what happened to my NES. It didn't break, and I didn't sell it. I got a SNES soon after it came out, and my NES just disappeared.
darth los
01-Mar-2010, 04:28 PM
All i know is that the cartridges didn't work and when you blew in them, vuala!
Mario time!
Attribute it to what ever you want but all I know is that it worked. You guys are making it sound like a rain dance or something.
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AcesandEights
01-Mar-2010, 04:59 PM
Ah, the NES...I still know where mine is :)
krakenslayer
02-Mar-2010, 03:33 PM
Negative, sir. The thing which caused games to fail was not dust; it was the connectors inside the system itself. Inside each NES there is a piece that allows the mother board to the cartridge via metal. However, Nintendo cut corners on production by using a cheap type of metal (unsure what exactly). This metal would "stretch" out of shape over time, and become so separated that it couldn't properly make contact with the cartridge.
Bear in mind, it is not one long metal strip or something, it's a bunch of small "pins", like this:
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
The cartridge is slid in between U & n, obviously.
Sometimes a set of U & n would be slightly separated; enough that it would cause that annoying flashing color screen :mad:. However, due to you ejecting and reinserting the game repeatedly, you'd get lucky and have it make just enough contact to work.
Don't believe me? Open up your NES and bend the connectors back to form. Make sure not to blow on any of your games then try to play them; they will work. Trust me - I've fixed many NES systems.
However, the best thing to do is just buy a new connector piece altogether, for like $7-10. There are companies that make them with a better grade of metal.
Damn, that was the last thing I wanted to type whilst hungover at 7:30 in the morning.
I've heard about the bending of the pins, I understand that was a major weakness in the construction of the console. Wasn't the Game Genie a big contributor to the problem, due to the contorted way it fit into the slot? Anyway, I'm sure you know your stuff on this subject. My point, however, is that just because that was one major cause of a game failing to work, doesn't mean that's the only cause.
Surely there is no doubt that a large accumulation of dust on the connectors would cause problems? The same goes for videocassette recorders, CD/DVD players, even serial and USB ports.
When I was a kid, my bedroom used to be pretty messy and I don't find the idea of dust accumulating in my cartridges too unbelievable. What I do know is that when I blew on one of my cartridges it worked fine for days or weeks before it would mess up again, whereas others that were not blown on would continue to have problems until I did so. Also, I now keep my cartridges packed away in a sealed box (where I suppose they are not exposed to dust), as opposed to scattered around a messy bedroom, and whenever I bring them out to play with them (which is once in a blue moon), they always boot up first time. To me this suggests that the connectors in my NES never bent out of shape, and it was dust on the cartridges themselves (due to poor storage conditions) that caused my intermittent problems.
Of course, that's only one person's anecdotal evidence, I guess...
darth los
03-Mar-2010, 04:19 PM
That's a very scientific approach and it makes sense kraken.
If there's a problem with something, console, car, whatever, and there's something you try that everytime it's done gets it to work what other conclusion could one come to?
But we've all been gaming for like...ever so I'm not going to say any other theories arre wrong but like Kraken said, and this is a lesson for life as well, it's never just one thing but it's normally a combination of things that contribute to a problem.
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