Palin for President in 2012!!

[LouCipherr]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/LouCipherr/Forum%20Pics1/palin2012.jpg

:lol:

[BillyRay]

Can't wait to see where this is heading...

http://www.itsfortytwo.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/homer-eating-popcorn.jpg

[darth los]

Wow, something smart that actually has some truth to it as opposed to fake birth certificates. :rolleyes:

:cool:

[JDFP]

Fantastic. Here we go with yet another "let's beat up on Sarah Palin!" thread. Meanwhile, the 'genius' running our nation is doing everything he can to attack American principles while he goes around bowing before despots and dictators. Oh yeah, great way to take attention off of that by tuning it to something else (cue someone now saying: "Well Bush blah blah blah" and yet again attempting to divert attention to something else again)...

Besides, I'm putting this silliness of Sarah Palin aside and focusing on the man that will hopefully lead us away from the insanity of Obamaism/Socialism-in-disguise into a new day...

http://mittromneycentral.com/uploads/Fred-Malek-heavyweight-Republican-fundraiser-singles-out-Romney-as-the-GOPs-leading-contender-in-2012.jpg

(Mitt: Donning the Superman outfit of power)

j.p.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Romeny is a mormon and I seriously doubt he would get elected because of it. Baptists, which make up a huge majority of the voting public tend to not care for Mormons.

[darth los]

Romeny is a mormon and I seriously doubt he would get elected because of it. Baptists, which make up a huge majority of the voting public tend to not care for Mormons.

Isn't it insane how in this day and age, religion still affects stuff like that?

:cool:

[JDFP]

Romeny is a mormon and I seriously doubt he would get elected because of it. Baptists, which make up a huge majority of the voting public tend to not care for Mormons.

The same was said about Kennedy, and look how that turned out (of course, alot of dead people in Chicago voting for him really helped his cause on that one, but that's another story all together).

Romney will be the front-runner against Obama in '12 unless anything 'dramatic' happens between now and then (which you never know). And he'll kick O.'s arse in the general election as well unless something 'dramatic' happens between now and then with O. as well.

I'm personally looking forward to the Romney Revolution and I'm a card-carrying member of it...

j.p.

[EvilNed]

Isn't it insane how in this day and age, religion still affects stuff like that?

:cool:

Not really, methinks. A person's religion definetly affects their political doctrine. In Sweden the "christian party" get less than 6% of the votes in the elections, and I wouldn't be surprised if they can't even muster up the 4% needed to get into parliament in the next election.

[LouCipherr]

Fantastic. Here we go with yet another "let's beat up on Sarah Palin!" thread.

No, that's not what this is. This is a "make fun of the idiots in politics" thread. It could've easily been the "Miss me yet?" Bush billboard, but that had already been posted. :p

Trust me, she isn't the only one I'll poke fun at....

[DjfunkmasterG]

The same was said about Kennedy, and look how that turned out (of course, alot of dead people in Chicago voting for him really helped his cause on that one, but that's another story all together).

Romney will be the front-runner against Obama in '12 unless anything 'dramatic' happens between now and then (which you never know). And he'll kick O.'s arse in the general election as well unless something 'dramatic' happens between now and then with O. as well.

I'm personally looking forward to the Romney Revolution and I'm a card-carrying member of it...

j.p.

I think ROn Paul has a better shot this time around personally

[AcesandEights]

Isn't it insane how in this day and age, religion still affects stuff like that?

:cool:

I don't believe so. It's an indicator of what the politician (supposedly) believes about how they (and usually other people) should be living their lives.

[LouCipherr]

I think Ron Paul has a better shot this time around personally

The only person in politics I would actually vote for. At least Paul has one thing that most, if not all, other politicians lack: some goddamn common sense.

[Exatreides]

I love the Republican way of electing people... If they failed in 2000!(Mccain) Lets try again in 08! If they failed in 08!(Romney) Lets try again in 12!

The party of Rich old White men is nothing but a boys club, every time you fail. The party goes for the guy who lost too the guy who won(or lost)

[slickwilly13]

Romeny is a mormon and I seriously doubt he would get elected because of it. Baptists, which make up a huge majority of the voting public tend to not care for Mormons.

You are so right on that. I have personally heard it out of the mouth of the far right Christian group in my area. Same goes for jews, buddhist, musilms, nonreligous, and gays. It does not matter if they are republicans. They will shun them. If they could get away with it, then they would most likely harrass, and/or, torture, and/or, execute anyone was did not agree with their cause.

[blind2d]

Yep, religion sure can get ugly... just look at the Crusades and the Inquisition!
Nobody accepts the Spanish Inquisition! - 2D
How right you are! In any case, I believe I saw Ron Paul on Colbert, and he seems like quite the cool guy. For that, he has my vote, however uneducated it may be.

[JDFP]

I love the Republican way of electing people... If they failed in 2000!(Mccain) Lets try again in 08! If they failed in 08!(Romney) Lets try again in 12!

The party of Rich old White men is nothing but a boys club, every time you fail. The party goes for the guy who lost too the guy who won(or lost)

Let's see... it worked in 60' Nixon vs. 68' Nixon, Reagan in 76' vs. 80' Reagan, and probably times before that but I'm far beyond too damn lazy too look it up right now.

In response to your comment on the Republican Party being an "Old White Men" party, that would be a bit like me calling the Democratic Party a party of "Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics" -- but I can't say that, because it would be 'racist', Anti-Semitic, or Anti-Diversity of me to say such a terrible thing, so how dare I even say such words!

Amazing how you can claim things on one side of the fence, but to claim things on the opposite side of the fence automatically makes you either anti-Semitic, racist, or 'anti-diversity'. I guess that's just the American way. After-all, I'm part of the Republican Party, and we only care about rich white people, right?...

j.p.

[Publius]

I love the Republican way of electing people... If they failed in 2000!(Mccain) Lets try again in 08! If they failed in 08!(Romney) Lets try again in 12!


Neither of those guys was nominated the first time around. If you want to see an example of the party actually putting a candidate forward, losing, and trying again with the same guy, there's no better example than William Jennings Bryan, Democratic presidential nominee in 1896, 1900, and 1908. Never won. The next best example is Adlai Stevenson, another Democrat, who got pounded by Eisenhower in '52 and came back for more in '56. The only one on the Republican side is Thomas Dewey. He lost to FDR in '44, which was a forgone conclusion. Then he was nominated to run against Truman in '48, but he actually had a shot at winning that one.

[BillyRay]

After-all, I'm part of the Republican Party, and we only care about rich white people, right?....


See? You DO get it!

:moon:


:elol::elol:

[darth los]

Yep, religion sure can get ugly... just look at the Crusades and the Inquisition!
Nobody accepts the Spanish Inquisition! - 2D



Nothing causes more stryfe than politics and religion and it seems as if we have the double whammy here.

:cool:

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See? You DO get it!

:moon:


:elol::elol:

Well, as a minority observing the GOP's behavior that's exactly what it looks like.

And for the record, the tea baggers can't stand republicans either, they just like them better than the dems. The lesser of 2 evils if you will.

:cool:

[BillyRay]

Well, as a minority observing the GOP's behavior that's exactly what it looks like.


Hell, as the Whitest guy you'll probably ever meet that's exactly what it looks like...

:cool:

[krakenslayer]

Let's see... it worked in 60' Nixon vs. 68' Nixon, Reagan in 76' vs. 80' Reagan, and probably times before that but I'm far beyond too damn lazy too look it up right now.

In response to your comment on the Republican Party being an "Old White Men" party, that would be a bit like me calling the Democratic Party a party of "Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics" -- but I can't say that, because it would be 'racist', Anti-Semitic, or Anti-Diversity of me to say such a terrible thing, so how dare I even say such words!

Amazing how you can claim things on one side of the fence, but to claim things on the opposite side of the fence automatically makes you either anti-Semitic, racist, or 'anti-diversity'. I guess that's just the American way. After-all, I'm part of the Republican Party, and we only care about rich white people, right?...

j.p.

I think his point was more that the Republican party is overwhelmingly, almost exclusively white (obviously not entirely), whereas the Democratic party is more "diverse". He's calling out a lack of "diversity" not a surfeit of it. Therefore it's not "anti-diversity".

If there was an almost all-black party, for example, I don't think it would be hailed as "anti-diversity" to call it an all-black party. If anything, it would be "pro-diversity", by suggesting they should allow in more white members.

I'm not taking sides here, it's just that I think Exatreides point was slightly mis-interpreted.

[Tricky]

You mean Obama isnt going to get re-elected? But I thought he was the second coming & that people were hysterically crying with joy when he won the last election? :p I said from the start he was just another spiv like Tony Blair was to the UK...

[darth los]

You mean Obama isnt going to get re-elected? But I thought he was the second coming & that people were hysterically crying with joy when he won the last election? :p I said from the start he was just another spiv like Tony Blair was to the UK...


Well, he might be unpolpular with some demographics but he's still the president. And if you want to know how difficult it is to unseat an incumbentpresident just look at the 04' election. With the amount of fuck ups and lies the Bush administration had up until that point (the worst terrorist attack on American soil happened on his watch for christ's sake) and the man still got re-elected. So take that for what it's worth.

Never underestimate Black Jesus !

:cool:

[Tricky]

Well, he might be unpolpular with some demographics but he's still the president. And if you want to know how difficult it is to unseat an incumbentpresident just look at the 04' election. With the amount of fuck ups and lies the Bush administration had up until that point (the worst terrorist attack on American soil happened on his watch for christ's sake) and the man still got re-elected. So take that for what it's worth.

Never underestimate Black Jesus !

:cool:

Dude I know how you feel, we're having great difficulty trying to get rid of this thoroughly incompetant & traitorous Labour government we've been stuck with for the past 12 years! :annoyed: The longer they stay in power, the more they keep quietly changing the voting rules making it extremely difficult to get rid of them! If labour manage to win the election this year, then the UK is all but finished

[Publius]

Well, he might be unpolpular with some demographics but he's still the president. And if you want to know how difficult it is to unseat an incumbentpresident just look at the 04' election. With the amount of fuck ups and lies the Bush administration had up until that point (the worst terrorist attack on American soil happened on his watch for christ's sake) and the man still got re-elected. So take that for what it's worth.

Never underestimate Black Jesus !

:cool:

Or look at the '44 election. FDR had allowed the Pearl Harbor attack, which killed a bigger percentage of U.S. citizens than 9/11, with a lot more warning, but was still re-elected.

A better comparison is probably Bill Clinton. Look at early 1995, more than halfway into his first term. Republicans had just taken control of both houses of Congress for the first time in decades, his approval ratings were in the tank, and practically every day the Rush Limbaugh show was playing parody songs about Clinton being a one-termer. But then he shifted to the center and worked with the Republicans to cut the deficit, and the economy turned around, while the Republicans nominated a weak candidate (Dole) in 1996. As a result he was handily re-elected.

Obama is barely a year into his first term. So yeah, it's way too early to start guessing at his re-election chances.

[LouCipherr]

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/englishmuse/ScarJo_popcorn.gif

[bassman]

Lou wins the image of the year award. Not only is it funny....it's VERY easy to look at.:sneaky:

You're my hero, lou.:lol:

[darth los]

Or look at the '44 election. FDR had allowed the Pearl Harbor attack, which killed a bigger percentage of U.S. citizens than 9/11, with a lot more warning, but was still re-elected.

A better comparison is probably Bill Clinton. Look at early 1995, more than halfway into his first term. Republicans had just taken control of both houses of Congress for the first time in decades, his approval ratings were in the tank, and practically every day the Rush Limbaugh show was playing parody songs about Clinton being a one-termer. But then he shifted to the center and worked with the Republicans to cut the deficit, and the economy turned around, while the Republicans nominated a weak candidate (Dole) in 1996. As a result he was handily re-elected.

Obama is barely a year into his first term. So yeah, it's way too early to start guessing at his re-election chances.


It's interesting how it's the economy more than anything that decides these things. It's also fair to point out that this seems to almost exclusively happen to Democratic presidents.

Not to offend anyone but it seems as if the reps believe that no democratic administration is legitimate (we saw it with Clinton and Carter as well) and that they are right on every issue and therefore only they know what's best for the country. Anything that deviates from that is considered an attack on the American way of life.

:cool:

[LouCipherr]

Lou wins the image of the year award. Not only is it funny....it's VERY easy to look at.:sneaky:

Thank you, thank you... no autographs please, just throw money. :lol:

[JDFP]

Not to offend anyone but it seems as if the reps believe that no democratic administration is legitimate (we saw it with Clinton and Carter as well) and that they are right on every issue and therefore only they know what's best for the country. Anything that deviates from that is considered an attack on the American way of life.

:cool:

Of course we're right, we're called the "RIGHT" wing for a reason. As far as the election of Obama goes, sure he's legitimate, but I attribute a great deal of his being elected to the continual downward spiral in our education system -- especially amongst younger voters. Take from that what you will. :)

Democrats believe what they believe to be the "right" thing as well, otherwise they wouldn't try to push down our throats a highly flawed Health Care Bill that the majority of people don't want anyway because they think they know what the American people should really want. And cheat at it too (Reconciliation, ahem, as well as making some 'interesting' court-appointees -- because otherwise it won't ever get passed).

And it is anti-American to deviate from our rightful way of thinking. Because otherwise you're, well, wrong.

:cool:

j.p.

[Minerva_Zombi]

Of course we're right, we're called the "RIGHT" wing for a reason. As far as the election of Obama goes, sure he's legitimate, but I attribute a great deal of his being elected to the continual downward spiral in our education system -- especially amongst younger voters. Take from that what you will. :)

Democrats believe what they believe to be the "right" thing as well, otherwise they wouldn't try to push down our throats a highly flawed Health Care Bill that the majority of people don't want anyway because they think they know what the American people should really want. And cheat at it too (Reconciliation, ahem, as well as making some 'interesting' court-appointees -- because otherwise it won't ever get passed).

And it is anti-American to deviate from our rightful way of thinking. Because otherwise you're, well, wrong.

:cool:

j.p.


HAHA! Anyone read the newest study that shows that Atheists and Liberals have a much higher I.Q. that Conservatives and religious people? By about 6 or 7 points?

Obviously, Liberals are very uneducated. :lol:

[JDFP]

HAHA! Anyone read the newest study that shows that Atheists and Liberals have a much higher I.Q. that Conservatives and religious people? By about 6 or 7 points?



Interesting. I have no doubt that there ARE tons of uneducated buffoons on the Conservative side of the fence where I am (and I know some of them). "Well, I vote for such-and-such party 'cause I always have." -- and this such. You also have these same buffoons in every form of organized religion as well. "Well I was always taught this is the right way to believe." -- it's sad really.

I'm still a big proponent that people should meet some type of intelligence litmus test for voting. Most states require you to have a gun training class/program to have a hand-gun permit, all states that I know of require you to pass a driving exam to be able to drive (even the city of Atlanta, as shocking as it may seem) -- yet any average Joe/Jane who is over the age of 18 can have the power to vote for the leadership of the nation who have the power of life, liberty, and the welfare of us all. Hmm...

However, I am certain that individuals like Milton Friedman, Bill Buckley, Jr., and others would really (or would have in their case) enjoyed reading this 'study' on the Conservative mind. I'd probably get a kick out of it as well. :)

j.p.

[Minerva_Zombi]

it was a study of over a decade of research from what i read.

I just think there are way more uneducated people in the Republican party than the democratic. Okay, maybe no "
Uneducated" but more like Misinformed. Most "conservatives" have no idea what being a conservative means. Most are "Well, I love Jesus and I love shootin' shit! I'm a conservative Republican!" If we had as many conservatives in this country as people think, Ron Paul would be the next Republican nominee. Instead, they're trying to sell the likes of Bobby Jindal and Juliette Lewis from The Other Sister to the mental midgets of their party who think Obama is Hitler for trying to fix health care. (Nothing says Hitler to me like universal healthcare).

And its the same for the Dems too. People who think Obama is some amazing Liberal, are also mistaken. He's centerist if anything. And Hillary Clinton, you couldn't get more centerist.

I think this countries problem is that people are so damn misinformed. Thanks to FOXNews, CNN, MSNBC, and any other politically owned "News" channel.

[Publius]

Not to offend anyone but it seems as if the reps believe that no democratic administration is legitimate (we saw it with Clinton and Carter as well) and that they are right on every issue and therefore only they know what's best for the country. Anything that deviates from that is considered an attack on the American way of life.


Whereas the Dems believe the opposite. ;)


HAHA! Anyone read the newest study that shows that Atheists and Liberals have a much higher I.Q. that Conservatives and religious people? By about 6 or 7 points?

Obviously, Liberals are very uneducated. :lol:

Ah, yes, that would be the study that uses an idiosyncratic definition of "liberal" unrelated to what Americans would understand as political liberalism, but where higher intelligence actually correlated to being less likely to support governmental measures to redistribute income from the rich to the poor. You did read the details and not just the headline, right?


I just think there are way more uneducated people in the Republican party than the democratic.

That would be why Democratic presidential candidates win biggest among voters who are high school dropouts, I suppose. Republicans win high school graduates, those with some college, and college graduates. Democrats gain the upper hand again among those with graduate and postgraduate degrees. But the biggest disparity is with high school dropouts, where the Democrats are way ahead.

[Danny]

-query from across the pond.-who is sarah palin and why do people give so much of a shit either way about her?

I know she was a political representative of alaska or something but anything else on tv over her was the "vpilf" crap that was just as bad as the obama "change" stuff, aside from that and some thing about one of her daughters i dont know what on earth the big deal is about this woman. what has she done to be the object of such negative and positive response from people?, what are her achievements?, what is the reason shes been the talk of americans for the past year?.

Honestly my eyebrow is raised in a quizzical manner.

[kortick]

quite simply she was the governor of Alaska
who was picked by John McCain to be his running mate
against Obama/Biden.

No one really to this day can say why he picked her over
other more qualifeid republicans.

It became clear right away that while she was more conservative
than McCain, which was supposed to add to his
appeal, by balancing out his sometimes more moderate views
it became apparant she isnt intelligent enough to be the
Vice President of the US. Her answers or lack of them in an
interview to such things as 'name a supreme court decision other
than abortion that u disagree with' and 'do you agree with the
Bush Doctrine" left no doubt that she just wasnt up to national
political level

Upon losing the election, she quit the governor ship of Alaska before
her term was up to write books and go on the circuit lecture for
large amounts of money.

The impressions of her by Tina Fey were so biting because they
actually used Palins own words when writing the skits.

I dont mind her babbling her beliefs or making money saying
the things she does. everyone is entitled to a living.
I just dont want her in the White House.

She seems to be a favorite (for now) of the 'tea bag' party
which is itself funny cuz even tho the name is based on the
Boston Tea Party the joke that kills everyone is they run
around saying they are a 'tea bagger'.
tea bagging is slang in the gay community for when some guy
slaps his ball sack on your forehead.
the fact they never picked up on this before going national
with the name tells you how in touch they are.

People are amused with her for now.
her 15 minutes are fading so I do hope she
grabs all the cash she can while she can.

[JDFP]

quite simply she was the governor of Alaska
who was picked by John McCain to be his running mate
against Obama/Biden.

No one really to this day can say why he picked her over
other more qualifeid republicans.

It became clear right away that while she was more conservative
than McCain, which was supposed to add to his
appeal, by balancing out his sometimes more moderate views
it became apparant she isnt intelligent enough to be the
Vice President of the US. Her answers or lack of them in an
interview to such things as 'name a supreme court decision other
than abortion that u disagree with' and 'do you agree with the
Bush Doctrine" left no doubt that she just wasnt up to national
political level

Upon losing the election, she quit the governor ship of Alaska before
her term was up to write books and go on the circuit lecture for
large amounts of money.

The impressions of her by Tina Fey were so biting because they
actually used Palins own words when writing the skits.

I dont mind her babbling her beliefs or making money saying
the things she does. everyone is entitled to a living.
I just dont want her in the White House.

She seems to be a favorite (for now) of the 'tea bag' party
which is itself funny cuz even tho the name is based on the
Boston Tea Party the joke that kills everyone is they run
around saying they are a 'tea bagger'.
tea bagging is slang in the gay community for when some guy
slaps his ball sack on your forehead.
the fact they never picked up on this before going national
with the name tells you how in touch they are.

People are amused with her for now.
her 15 minutes are fading so I do hope she
grabs all the cash she can while she can.

Typical militant liberal horse-shit response. It's exactly the type of response that, for whatever reason, Sarah Palin evokes. I think it's based upon the Conservative principles that she follows/believes that she draws this type of overwhelming ridiculous scrutiny. Of course, liberals love the opportunity to point fingers against anyone in Conservative circles.

As far as resigning from the governorship of Alaska, every fucked-up trite liberal was gunning for her head in one way or another because she actually believes Conservative principles and several false Ethics complaints/allegations had been put against her. She wisely chose to save the state of Alaska tax-payer money by not bringing it through the mire in lengthy and expensive legal battles (unlike say Rod Blagojevic) -- and to actually save face for her children as well, not that this didn't save people like that adulturous David Letterman from attacking her young daughter anyway.

Funny thing is, these liberals always attack Sarah Palin on experience when she has far more experience than Obama did when becoming president being that he spent most of his time he spent in Congress voting mostly "Present".

As far as Palin not being "intelligent enough" to run the country, she'd have my vote any damn day of the week over this nutso Socialist-in-sheep's clothing attempting to destroy the fabric of Americanism today -- and his four years of dragging us through more mud like pseudo-Republican Bush are going to be at an end come 2012.

j.p.

[Danny]

neither opinion explains the big deal with this woman, this seems like a brand exercise.

[BillyRay]

Easy to decipher, Hells.

The American public were bamboozled/stupid enough to vote for Dubya. TWICE. As a result, this country is currently teetering on the precipice of Ruin.

Mrs Palin is even less informed, less competant, appeals more to the baser feelings of fear and prejudice among the American electorate than Bush the Lesser did. Strangely, this worries some people.

If Sarah Palin ever became President, Game Over - America Loses.

The irritating thing is that it could happen.

[bassman]

I'm starting to think political discussions should just be banned on HPotD. The result is always the same...

[Danny]

I'm starting to think political discussions should just be banned on HPotD. The result is always the same...

right wing americans think left wing americans are always wrong and stupid.

left wing americans think right wing americans are always wrong and stupid.


a two party system can never truly work, all it does is create a "your either 'us' or 'them', which are you?" mentality like politics is less about managing the machinery of a country, and more akin to a high school popularity contest or a superbowl game.

give it 100 years and you'll have republicans and democrats on either side of a line, one side says "drink pepsi", the other "drink coke":rolleyes:

[Kaos]

Wow. This thread went to hell in a handbasket quick didn't it? One particularly personal and inarticulate post deleted and the thread closed. Nice work fellows.