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bassman
08-May-2010, 01:05 AM
Christopher Nolan has been one of my favorite filmmakers since day one. In my opinion the guy has never made a bad film. Now comes his biggest film outside of the Batman franchise.
INCEPTION (http://www.joblo.com/new-awesome-inception-trailer-is-awesomely-awesome)
I'll post a better version of the trailer once it's available.
I still really don't know what this film is about, but damn I'm drooling at the mouth to check it out. A great filmmaker's idea on a huge hollywood budget? This has the potential to be EPIC. It also has the potential to be a huge bomb, but looking at Nolan's track record I doubt it.
Neil
10-May-2010, 01:03 PM
The visuals look amazing!
http://blog.onthebox.com/2010/05/10/full-inception-trailer/
bassman
10-May-2010, 01:04 PM
I posted this a few days ago, but nobody responded. But hell yeah....looks incredible. This is my number one must-see of the year. I love Nolan's films.:)
MinionZombie
10-May-2010, 01:13 PM
I'll definitely check this out. I kept forgetting to see the trailers until t'other day. Looks pretty cool ... even though nobody knows what it's all about. Looking forward to seeing what Joseph Gordon Levitt gets up to in it as well - the dude's a quality actor.
Neil
10-May-2010, 02:01 PM
I posted this a few days ago, but nobody responded. But hell yeah....looks incredible. This is my number one must-see of the year. I love Nolan's films.:)
How did I miss that!?! Soz! threads joined!
Skippy911sc
10-May-2010, 02:47 PM
I saw this the first time it came out... it was called dreamscape. ;)
I read up on the premise and it sounds like Dreamscape...
I rather enjoyed Dreamscape in my youth so I look forward to this film!
Neil
10-May-2010, 03:16 PM
I saw this the first time it came out... it was called dreamscape. ;)
I read up on the premise and it sounds like Dreamscape...
I rather enjoyed Dreamscape in my youth so I look forward to this film!
So is it actually a remake of that?
bassman
10-May-2010, 03:20 PM
I haven't seen Dreamscape, but I'm pretty sure Inception has nothing to do with it. They may be similar, but Inception is credited as an original script from Chris Nolan.
Skippy911sc
11-May-2010, 04:01 PM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/17094/-inception-synopsis-revealed
Warner Bros. Pictures has released an official synopsis for Christopher Nolan’s highly anticipated yet still very mysterious thriller "Inception" - a synopsis that delivers a basic outline of the story at last:
"Acclaimed filmmaker Christopher Nolan directs an international cast in an original sci-fi actioner that travels around the globe and into the intimate and infinite world of dreams.
Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable.
Cobb’s rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved.
Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible–inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one.
If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming."
The film is scheduled to hit theatres on July 16th. Marion Cotillard, Cillian Murphy, Ellen Page, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ken Watanabe, Tom Hardy and Michael Caine also star.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087175/plotsummary
Dreamscape (1984)
A government funded project looks into using psychics to enter people's dreams, with some mechanical help. When a subject dies in his sleep from a heart attack Alex Gardner becomes suspicious that another of the psychics is killing people in the dreams somehow and that is causing them to die in real life. He must find a way to stop the abuse of the power to enter dreams. Written by Zaphod <aaa@scs.leeds.ac.uk>
A man who can enter and manipulate people's dreams is recruited by a government agency to help cure the President of the United States of his nightmares about nuclear war but finds a conspiracy is hiding the true reason behind the research. Written by Keith Loh <loh@sfu.ca>
Not exactly the same but pretty close.... Still sounds cool!!!
AcesandEights
11-May-2010, 04:05 PM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/17094/-inception-synopsis-revealed
Warner Bros. Pictures has released an official synopsis for Christopher Nolan’s highly anticipated yet still very mysterious thriller "Inception" - a synopsis that delivers a basic outline of the story at last:
"Acclaimed filmmaker Christopher Nolan directs an international cast in an original sci-fi actioner that travels around the globe and into the intimate and infinite world of dreams.
Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable.
Cobb’s rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved.
Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible–inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one.
If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming."
The film is scheduled to hit theatres on July 16th. Marion Cotillard, Cillian Murphy, Ellen Page, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ken Watanabe, Tom Hardy and Michael Caine also star.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087175/plotsummary
Dreamscape (1984)
A government funded project looks into using psychics to enter people's dreams, with some mechanical help. When a subject dies in his sleep from a heart attack Alex Gardner becomes suspicious that another of the psychics is killing people in the dreams somehow and that is causing them to die in real life. He must find a way to stop the abuse of the power to enter dreams. Written by Zaphod <aaa@scs.leeds.ac.uk>
A man who can enter and manipulate people's dreams is recruited by a government agency to help cure the President of the United States of his nightmares about nuclear war but finds a conspiracy is hiding the true reason behind the research. Written by Keith Loh <loh@sfu.ca>
Not exactly the same but pretty close.... Still sounds cool!!!
Fixed.
Skippy911sc
11-May-2010, 06:15 PM
Sorry didn't think the info was considered a spoiler...
AcesandEights
11-May-2010, 07:28 PM
Sorry didn't think the info was considered a spoiler...
I'm a stickler about such things, so no offense was meant :)
rongravy
11-May-2010, 08:22 PM
Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I saw the trailer the other day. I think before shitty Ironman 2? My kid was drooling over Cilian, and I was groaning over Leo.
After Shutter Island, I ain't falling for any of his crappy overacting. He still looks like he's 12 years old. The rest of the cast looked decent enough, though...
bassman
16-May-2010, 12:38 AM
Inception Story 3. :lol:
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MinionZombie
16-May-2010, 11:54 AM
Inception Story 3. :lol:
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Ruddy superb! :cool::thumbsup:
Purge
16-May-2010, 02:27 PM
I saw the cardboard cut-out for it at the theaters last night when I went to see The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo.
acealive1
16-May-2010, 05:48 PM
apparently no one has seen dark city or knows this movie is virtually a rip off and a half
bassman
16-May-2010, 10:34 PM
apparently no one has seen dark city or knows this movie is virtually a rip off and a half
:lol: Really?
Where are the aliens? Do you know that they're making everyone go to sleep so they can alter their reality? In Inception it's a small group of people that enter other's dreams. Nobody enters dreams in Dark City.
BTW, I love Dark City. Recently picked it up on Blu Ray and it's fantastic.
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 01:06 AM
"Characters" trailer (http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-trailers/?g=4fdddfd4-d166-4546-9675-d66bbf7650af)
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More of the plot and what each character plays within it.
acealive1
23-Jun-2010, 01:22 AM
:lol: Really?
Where are the aliens? Do you know that they're making everyone go to sleep so they can alter their reality? In Inception it's a small group of people that enter other's dreams. Nobody enters dreams in Dark City.
BTW, I love Dark City. Recently picked it up on Blu Ray and it's fantastic.
philip k dick was the main inspiration for both. one just happened to come way before and the other decided to add more sun and get rid of the strangers
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 01:37 AM
Dick is inspiration for lots of things and Inception does have some similar aspects, but I wouldn't put it down before seeing it. Nolan's the kind of writer/director with tricks up his sleeve. His past films prove that.
acealive1
23-Jun-2010, 02:13 AM
Dick is inspiration for lots of things and Inception does have some similar aspects, but I wouldn't put it down before seeing it. Nolan's the kind of writer/director with tricks up his sleeve. His past films prove that.
ones previous work doesnt cast any shadows on new stuff
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 02:17 AM
True. You've got a point there. He could always make a bomb.
But with a track record of 7-8(?) films that were all great-to-decent, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
acealive1
23-Jun-2010, 03:18 AM
True. You've got a point there. He could always make a bomb.
But with a track record of 7-8(?) films that were all great-to-decent, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
no more batman though. and u know if it bombs like jonah hex im coming in here to clown,right?
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 03:22 AM
:lol:
He's already on Batman 3(thank god), but yeah you can come strut your shit if Inception sucks. Of course it's all opinion, so it wouldn't matter anyway. :p
acealive1
23-Jun-2010, 11:04 AM
:lol:
He's already on Batman 3(thank god), but yeah you can come strut your shit if Inception sucks. Of course it's all opinion, so it wouldn't matter anyway. :p
hmm.......i heard bale say "i wont do another batman"
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 12:49 PM
He also famously ranted that he wouldn't finish work on Terminator Salvation, but he did.:p
If Nolan's back - Bale will be back. After this one the trilogy will be complete and they'll move on to a new team.
JDFP
23-Jun-2010, 03:16 PM
"Inception" definitely looks interesting and worth a watch -- I'll definitely check it out when it comes out for rent (I already have it in my queue for when it is released). I'm not too crazy about "big-budget blockbuster" films though as they usually focus more on 'blowin' shit up' than character development. Usually I'd rather stick with an independent/lower-budget film where it's about characters/plot instead of gimmicks but every once and awhile I am pleasantly surprised by a bigger-budget film. Nolan's NOT Michael Bay though, so I'll certainly be willing to give it a chance.
j.p.
MinionZombie
23-Jun-2010, 04:57 PM
Er, wasn't it Nolan's brother who worked on the script for T4?
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 05:59 PM
Er, wasn't it Nolan's brother who worked on the script for T4?
That's right. We were talking about Bale saying what he will and won't do. I made the joke about his famous "I want you off this fucking set!!" explosion.
acealive1
24-Jun-2010, 01:28 AM
He also famously ranted that he wouldn't finish work on Terminator Salvation, but he did.:p
If Nolan's back - Bale will be back. After this one the trilogy will be complete and they'll move on to a new team.
this was just recently bro. he said they're taking way too long and if nolan isnt aboard he wont do it
bassman
24-Jun-2010, 02:09 PM
Peter Travers of Rolling Stone is one of the first to see and review this beast. The whole review isn't up yet, but this snippet was released to wet our beaks.
The mind-blowing movie event of the summer arrives just in time to hold back the flow of Hollywood sputum that's been sliming the multiplex. 'Inception'...will be called many things, starting with James Bond Meets 'The Matrix.' You can feel the vibe of Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner' in it, and Nolan's own 'Memento' and 'The Dark Knight.' But 'Inception' glows with a blue-flame intensity all its own. Nolan creates a dream world that he wants us to fill with our own secrets. I can't think of a better goal for any filmmaker. Of course, trusting the intelligence of the audience can cost Nolan at the box office. We're so used to being treated like idiots. How to cope with a grand-scale epic, shot in six countries at a reported cost of $160 million, that turns your head around six ways from Sunday? Dive in and drive yourself crazy, that's how.
AcesandEights
24-Jun-2010, 02:46 PM
Not too shabby a review. Can't wait for more to see if this turns into a general positive consensus or is an outlier.
Neil
24-Jun-2010, 05:20 PM
Peter Travers of Rolling Stone is one of the first to see and review this beast. The whole review isn't up yet, but this snippet was released to wet our beaks.
Drooool!
MinionZombie
24-Jun-2010, 06:55 PM
Drooool!
May I join you in the drool-a-thon?
Been loving the trailers, especially in the cinema where that growling theme track just blasts out at you like a foghorn.
Can't wait to see the movie, I think it's going to leave a big impression. :)
bassman
24-Jun-2010, 06:59 PM
Can't wait to see the movie, I think it's going to leave a big impression. :)
I'm actually thinking the opposite. I'm fairly certain it's going to be a good movie, if not incredible.....BUT....what that rolling stone snippet says is true. If it's too much of a thinker, most audiences of today will bail on it. And with it being a huge budget(no doubt due to Dark Knight's records), i'm afraid it's going to end up being a critical achievment, but a financial failure.
I hope I'm wrong for Nolan's sake, but audiences today like to be spoon-fed and his past films are far from that...
MinionZombie
25-Jun-2010, 10:03 AM
Nah, I think Inception will still do very well for itself. Not like The Dark Knight, but I do think Inception will do nicely for itself.
Tricky
25-Jun-2010, 10:33 AM
Im looking forward to seeing this, I've seen a few trailers on the big screen this year (cant remember if one of them was in 3d?) anyway the visuals look awesome & the concept is pretty good too! I used to hate dicaprio around the "titanic" time, but I've come to realise he's a pretty good actor and ive enjoyed his recent films like Blood diamond and Shutter Island, and this looks like it will be top too!
bassman
06-Jul-2010, 12:31 AM
Joblo.com (http://www.joblo.com/review-inception) gives it a perfect 10/10. Being one of my favorite review sites that generally has the same views as myself...this is good news. :thumbsup:
While THE DARK KNIGHT was the #1 film of 2008 and a pop-culture phenomenon, with INCEPTION, Nolan has truly created his magnum opus; an achievement of such grandeur, it’s remarkable a film of this scale was made in this day and age.
And the few reviews at rottentomatoes (http://beta.rottentomatoes.com/m/inception/) mirror the same thoughts. Can not wait to feast my eyes on this. A summer blockbuster that's actually worth the money - who would've thought?
bassman
16-Jul-2010, 06:07 PM
Well it's out now. Any HPotD'ers seen it yet? Reviews?
I'll be seeing it tomorrow evening. I'm actually skipping my favorite band's concert and trying to sell the tickets just so I can see Inception.:lol:
Hey....it's not often I have a babysitter lined up, what can I say?
MinionZombie
17-Jul-2010, 10:38 AM
I'll hopefully be seeing it on Sunday.
CooperWasRight
17-Jul-2010, 11:19 PM
I saw it Thursday at midnight.... It is amazing... I doubt it will do Dark Knight business. This film is far more cerebral then it is an action film. I dont want to give anything away but I will say the action is almost irrelevant in the film and the commercials really give a different impression of the film. This is way more in line with Memento, The following or The Prestige.
Nolan has made it to Kubrick heights in the sense that I dont think many directors would EVER be able to spend this kind of money on a passion project.
Also on a personal not I think Nolan is awful about shooting up close action and this film is no different. But I have to say I agree this is a 10 for 10 and I have been thinking about this film since I watched it and need to watch it again.
bassman
18-Jul-2010, 03:51 AM
Fuck-ing-awe-some! Loved it. I went in with high expectations, which I usually try not to do, and still walked away impressed. Very impressed.
I'm not going to give any spoilers, but I would describe it as Memento mixed with James Bond. The structure and story isn't as hard to follow as Memento was the first time around, but it's still got that "feel". All in all the actors are great, but Ellen Page seemed to only serve the purpose of telling the audience whats going on.
I guess that's about all I can say without spoiling anything, but I would highly recommend this film on the big screen. Some of the effects are mind boggling. The hallway scene you see in the trailers is nothing short of jaw dropping. Also....this is definitely a more-than-once film. I probably finished it about 45 minutes ago and I'm already thinking of things to look for on my next viewing. And it really deserves another.
Now for the spoiler tags for those that have seen it:
Let's hear it. It's left open for your own interpretation, so what do you think? Real or dream? As I said, I may have missed something that I'll catch on further viewings, but how did Cobb get out of the dreams?? He goes from the deepest level back to the plane. So unless i'm missing something(which I probably am), I'm thinking the Top was going to keep spinning and he was still dreaming.
blind2d
18-Jul-2010, 05:51 PM
To those that have seen this movie:
How is it in comparison to Paprika? Is it a similar deal (that's the impression I get from the trailers)? If so, is it "better"?
MinionZombie
18-Jul-2010, 06:48 PM
Just saw the film today - I dug it. I didn't have the same tingly "omfg!" vibe that I got from The Dark Knight, but I certainly enjoyed myself and got my mind all into it - plus Leo and JGLevitt were awesome.
As for the ending ... it's kind of open in a way, it's still spinning when the shot closes, but it also wobbles around like it's about to stop.
I'm reminded of the moment when he spins the thingy in Mumbasa after he splashes his face with water - he doesn't spin it right and it falls on the floor, so that must be real life for sure ... so I'm thinking that the final shot is really more for an open-ended 'make up your own mind' vibe ... I come down on the side of "reality" more than "dream" ... but a second viewing might change my perception of it.
The 'gravity defying' stuff was really cool too - especially the corridor battle (and other related scenes) - it's true what they said, JGL was really adept at that stuff. :cool:
I also agree that perhaps they could pull the camera back a little bit, like when JGL is fighting around I really want to see that it's really JGL doing it, whereas it can be a tad confusing/disguised as-is ... but it was never a real problem for me either. Just pull the camera back a smidge, Mr Nolan & Co.
Two thumbs up for the flick, mind. :)
bassman
18-Jul-2010, 08:11 PM
As for the ending ... it's kind of open in a way, it's still spinning when the shot closes, but it also wobbles around like it's about to stop.
I'm reminded of the moment when he spins the thingy in Mumbasa after he splashes his face with water - he doesn't spin it right and it falls on the floor, so that must be real life for sure ... so I'm thinking that the final shot is really more for an open-ended 'make up your own mind' vibe ... I come down on the side of "reality" more than "dream" ... but a second viewing might change my perception of it.
What did you think about Cobb(Dicaprio) waking up on the plane? Did I miss something? I thought he had to be awakened from all three levels of the dream. He just goes from the deepest level in his high rise "house" to being on the plane again. What about the van and the elevator that the other members of the crew had to go through? Why did he skip it?
By the way....early box office numbers say that Inception walked away with the first spot and a cool 60 million. Not bad for such a vague film with a strange marketing campaign...
rongravy
18-Jul-2010, 08:36 PM
I'm seeing it in around an hour. I've generally heard good things about it. I forgot he did Memento, which kicked ass.
Damn Leo for being in it.
From anyone who saw it: he didn't take away from it/ruin it like he did Shutter Island, did he?
bassman
18-Jul-2010, 08:54 PM
From anyone who saw it: he didn't take away from it/ruin it like he did Shutter Island, did he?
I thought he was great in Inception. But I also didn't have a problem with him in Shutter Island, so take that for what you will.
I don't know why so many people hate on Dicaprio. He's a really good actor. Sometimes I think most of them hate him because he's just popular and they want to go against the grain....
JDFP
18-Jul-2010, 10:09 PM
Yeah, it's in my Netflix queue (along with 290 other films that are "saved" which haven't been released yet) so I'll check it out when it comes out for rent.
I've already met my quota for spending $10 to see a movie in the theatre this year (and whined about it too) when I got my ticket to see "Toy Story 3" which was amazing.
j.p.
bassman
18-Jul-2010, 10:23 PM
JD....Inception is the ONLY film I would recommend seeing in theater this summer. Sadly, I can't comment on TS3 yet, but Inception would definitely fit that bill.
Inception is that rare occasion where a "Summer Blockbuster" exceeds on more than a "Ohhh...explosions!" level. Inception is what more summer blockbusters should aspire to be.
I'm not saying it's the greatest film to grace God's earth, but it's definitely the best film this summer and exceeds on so many levels where the others fail. I'll put it this way....Nolan knows how to treat an audience. You're included in the process as if you can figure it out yourself rather than explosions, boom boom boom. If only more summer blockbusters could follow this example.
Nolan has taken a passion project and turned it into a multi million dollar experience. In that sense, the guy is almost a modern day Kubrick. He was able to make a "thinking" film on the massive scale that it deserves. It's a rare experience and it deserves to be experienced in the theater. Imax if possible(Pfister's work is amazing).
my .02
CooperWasRight
18-Jul-2010, 11:29 PM
JD....Inception is the ONLY film I would recommend seeing in theater this summer. Sadly, I can't comment on TS3 yet, but Inception would definitely fit that bill.
Inception is that rare occasion where a "Summer Blockbuster" exceeds on more than a "Ohhh...explosions!" level. Inception is what more summer blockbusters should aspire to be.
I'm not saying it's the greatest film to grace God's earth, but it's definitely the best film this summer and exceeds on so many levels where the others fail. I'll put it this way....Nolan knows how to treat an audience. You're included in the process as if you can figure it out yourself rather than explosions, boom boom boom. If only more summer blockbusters could follow this example.
Nolan has taken a passion project and turned it into a multi million dollar experience. In that sense, the guy is almost a modern day Kubrick. He was able to make a "thinking" film on the massive scale that it deserves. It's a rare experience and it deserves to be experienced in the theater. Imax if possible(Pfister's work is amazing).
my .02
This is in my opinion not just movie of the summer but movie of the year... And I think it will go down as a modern Blade Runner in it's cult status and rewatchability and layers of meaning. This would be no coincidence as it is Nolan's favorite film.
rongravy
19-Jul-2010, 02:39 AM
I thought he was great in Inception. But I also didn't have a problem with him in Shutter Island, so take that for what you will.
I don't know why so many people hate on Dicaprio. He's a really good actor. Sometimes I think most of them hate him because he's just popular and they want to go against the grain....
Haha, yeah I instantly do not like him. Dunno why except I've never thought he was nearly as good an actor as he's been hyped up to be. I also admittedly stood up and cheered when he died in Titanic.
Shutter Island?
He still looked like a kid in that suit. Not a very well fitting place to put him, and in a completely predictably boring movie as well.
I will say he wasn't as bad here, and he's getting kind of chubby. The movie was ok, kind of slow in the first half or so. I wanted more of the revolving room stuff they shot in, I'd heard alot about it, and more trippiness. The rest of the cast was superb. I thought, and hoped, this would be more like Dark City and mind fucked like Memento. I got nice and baked before I went.
Like I said: a little long, but when it finally got going it was decent enough. I don't see the need for repeated viewings like I've heard people saying, I got it the first time. Not at all overly complex.
Tricky
19-Jul-2010, 10:31 AM
I don't know why so many people hate on Dicaprio. He's a really good actor. Sometimes I think most of them hate him because he's just popular and they want to go against the grain....
Yeah I used to hate him around the time of Romeo & Juliet/Titanic, mainly because teenage girls were obsessed with him around that time so I was just like "ugh" (probably jealously wishing I had his looks so I could get laid :lol:)
But now I think he's a great actor, even going back to "this boys life" and "the basketball diaries", plus more recently "blood diamond", "Shutter Island", "The Departed" & "The Beach", credit where its due! and looking at imdb, he has a hell of a lot of films in production, so fair play to him he's got a good career.
Cant wait to see Inception this week anyway!
Neil
19-Jul-2010, 11:28 AM
"the basketball diaries"
Brilliant film!
Always remember how that religious review site (CAP ALERT) basically gave it one of its lowest scores ever! Declaring almost the work of the devil. Yet, for me, it's a film I'd suggest every teenager should be made to watch!
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/basketballdiaries/basketballdiaries.htm
Neil
21-Jul-2010, 09:11 AM
Well saw it last night and really enjoyed it...
One of the better "mind f*ck" films I've seen in a good while... Sort of reminded me of "Total Recall" in some areas, and TBH, I think I prefered the twists and turns and question in that film more than "Inception"... (High hopes for any remake!!)
But none the less, a great flick, and something a little different :)
One thing that REALLY ANNOYED ME:-
The number of bullets shot at them, and seemingly all/most missed? I mean that van was absolutely shot to pieces and the driver wasn't hit?! Hmmm....
And one thing I felt wasn't very well explained:-
The machine they connected themselves too did what exactly? Sedated them if necessary? But from a linking each other into each dreams it did that how?
FINALLY! Has anyone got a link to anything describing what actually happened in the film?
ie: Was he in a dream the whole film? Or not etc...
This diagram is useful, but I think it misses the fact the WHOLE thing is a dream for Cobb! ie: Level 1 is infact Cobb's limbo!!
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/19643/_1279559876.jpg
Neil
23-Jul-2010, 02:27 PM
What did you think about Cobb(Dicaprio) waking up on the plane? Did I miss something? I thought he had to be awakened from all three levels of the dream. He just goes from the deepest level in his high rise "house" to being on the plane again. What about the van and the elevator that the other members of the crew had to go through? Why did he skip it?
Yeh, slight issue there isn't there!
Also:-
Assume Mal WAS right, and so her committing suicide lifted her up a level, why didn't she simlpy wake Cobb out of his dream?
ie: So Cobb was in reality because Mal really died!
Tricky
23-Jul-2010, 10:51 PM
Just got back from this! very, very good film, its a long time since I've seen a film that has made me think quite as deeply as this! two people who quite clearly didnt get it walked out halfway through, but I understood what was going on & found it very intelligent, well written & well acted. The way they had the three levels of dreaming going on at the same time, with the differing speeds of time passing worked well, it would have been so easy to mess that sequence up& make it too confusing, but it was done in such a way that made sense. I must admit I didnt have a clue what was going on for the first 20 mins though, but I think that was intentional. I wouldnt mind seeing it again now just to see if I pick up on anything else a second time around...
blind2d
24-Jul-2010, 06:25 PM
So it's kind of a live-action Paprika... I'll see it when it comes out on dvd. Sounds cool.
bassman
27-Jul-2010, 03:41 PM
Stumbled onto this video and thought it was pretty cool. I didn't notice, but apparently Hans Zimmer's score for the film is based around the "countdown" song played during the dreams.
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There are so many layers to this flick, its insane...
AcesandEights
02-Aug-2010, 03:21 PM
Finally saw it yesterday and really....REALLY enjoyed the film. I thought it was well written, expertly conceived and the cast did a pretty bang up job.
Stumbled onto this video and thought it was pretty cool. I didn't notice, but apparently Hans Zimmer's score for the film is based around the "countdown" song played during the dreams.
Something interesting about the music that my girlfriend told me after the film was that it was sung by, Edith Piaf, who was also played by the actress who played the role of Mal in that actresses first big breakout film. According to my girlfriend the music also fits very well with the film, with respect to Cobb (DiCaprio), as it's about living life without regrets.
bassman
02-Aug-2010, 03:27 PM
Damn, you're right! I didn't even make that connection. Weird.
Looks like you were one of the many to help Inception stay at #1 this weekend. Three weeks in a row so far. See Hollywood, SEE?!? Intelligent and original films can make money too, not just sequels and remakes!
MinionZombie
02-Aug-2010, 06:43 PM
There's a great trailer spoof on College Humour - "Bill & Ted's Excellent Inception" - check it out. :)
AcesandEights
02-Aug-2010, 06:47 PM
There's a great trailer spoof on College Humour - "Bill & Ted's Excellent Inception" - check it out. :)
Yeah, I saw Tricky had posted or commented on the same thing on FB, but I didn't get a chance to check it out yet.
rongravy
03-Aug-2010, 05:06 AM
Intelligent and original films can make money too, not just sequels and remakes!
Dang, then why isn't Winter's Bone the number one then?
I know everyone here seems to like Inception, but I didn't think it was all that special or a mindfucker. Memento was wayyyy more the shit.
Three weeks as number one. I saw that earlier today, and Toy Story 3 already taking over 400 million easily by next weekend.
Lots of big hits and misses. Hype, timing, and all that dominate. Alot of good shit gets missed. That's why I try to see everything that comes out.
Yeah, I bitch about Inception, but I've seen it.
I just got back from seeing Dinner with Schmucks earlier today and the crappy Zac Effron one this last weekend...
bassman
09-Aug-2010, 08:14 PM
Dang, then why isn't Winter's Bone the number one then?
Haven't seen that flick, but it looks like a much smaller release.
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I was just bombing around IMDB when I saw that Inception is at #3 in the top 250?!?!? WTF? I like the movie and all, but it's not that good.
This reminds me of when The Dark Knight went to #1 when it was first released. Now it sits at twelve. Even twelve is too high when compared to the other films in the list. Looks like Nolan is making a name for himself amongst those bastard kids that plague the IMDB boards with bullshit....
bassman
03-Sep-2010, 11:19 PM
If there are any UK members that REALLY liked Inception....as of now it looks like you're getting the best Blu Ray release (http://www.joblo.com/dvdclinic/index.php?id=7124).
http://www.joblo.com/dvdclinic/images/news/Inception%20UK%20BD.png
I really hope the state side fans get a similar release. I would have it on day one....
MinionZombie
04-Sep-2010, 10:48 AM
If there are any UK members that REALLY liked Inception....as of now it looks like you're getting the best Blu Ray release (http://www.joblo.com/dvdclinic/index.php?id=7124).
http://www.joblo.com/dvdclinic/images/news/Inception%20UK%20BD.png
I really hope the state side fans get a similar release. I would have it on day one....
Looks cool, but expensive ... I'll see what the full details of all packages are before I pre-order anything.
DubiousComforts
05-Sep-2010, 05:17 AM
I know everyone here seems to like Inception, but I didn't think it was all that special or a mindfucker. Memento was wayyyy more the shit.
In your estimation, how many films similar to Memento and Inception were released this year?
mista_mo
05-Sep-2010, 05:25 AM
The Expendables is pretty much a straight sequel to Inception.
bassman
04-Dec-2010, 02:29 AM
It's been said time and time again....but it's crazy how much trailers can misrepresent the final film.
Ghost Inception:
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MinionZombie
04-Dec-2010, 11:40 AM
It's been said time and time again....but it's crazy how much trailers can misrepresent the final film.
Ghost Inception:
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That was seriously good! :)
bassman
08-Dec-2010, 01:55 PM
So I've had a chance to give the Blu Ray a decent look over. The picture quality is pretty snazzy. Probably one of the best i've seen in recent years.
The "Extraction Mode" is really the only special feature about the movie. I haven't had a chance to see the entire thing, but you watch the movie and it cuts out to show you how certain scenes were accomplished. The other special feature is a doc hosted by Joe Gordon Levitt where different doctors talk about the science of dreams and such.
Overall not a bad purchase. I would have liked a commentary from Nolan, but I think he's only ever done that with one film and doesn't really like it. I would give this release a pretty solid 8/10.
AcesandEights
08-Dec-2010, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the review, Bass! Think I'll ask for this for Christmas.
MinionZombie
08-Dec-2010, 07:24 PM
Thanks for the review, Bass! Think I'll ask for this for Christmas.
T'is on my Xmas List too. :)
JDFP
29-Jan-2011, 03:01 AM
Saw it earlier tonight, and I liked the soundtrack a great deal. Um... that's about the best I can say about it.
Honestly, I thought the acting was really wooden -- which is surprising. Michael Caine was great in the 5 minutes he was in it. It's a shame he didn't have a bigger role but there really wasn't anything else that stood out to me acting wise. Ellen Page looked like she was there to pick up a paycheck -- I felt ZERO emotion from her. DiCaprio was decent, but the only thing I've ever seen him in I really dug was "Shutter Island" which I thought was a far superior film all around.
I thought the concept of the film was fantastic -- but I guess I've been ruined by independent films. I was hoping for more philosophical exposition on the nature of reality v. "reality we make of it" -- but this certainly wasn't an independent film (unfortunately). What it lacked in attempting to delve into the concept of dreams/reality it attempted to make up with blowing a great deal of shit up. And while it did a good job in the blowing shit up department (the visuals were fantastic -- I'll grant that) it just didn't do anything for me. I almost fell asleep a few times.
It's a dream and the best these people can do is use conventional weapons? Why not just shoot lightning out of their fingers Palpatine style and destroy all the subconscious Jungian 'personas' in the dream that threatened them? And the whole idea of 'incepting' an idea into someone's dream just doesn't seem to go far enough into carrying over into realty. So what if they planted an idea into someone's mind -- like most of us, 90% of the dream would have been forgotten after waking up and the bits that remained would be nothing but a quaint Church-Lady like: "Well isn't that special!" while we carry on in our 'reality' as we know it without the dream really having much of any impact on us.
Someone above mentioned "Winter's Bone" and I recently saw that too -- now that was an AMAZING film, but, as I've already said, blockbusters just really don't do a damn thing for me anywhere -- I prefer the more subtle reality of indie films as opposed to this type of thing. I will say that "Inception" did what it did very well, the soundtrack was great and the visuals stellar, but instead of putting 'intelligent' thinking into it it settled for a middle school hypothesis of dreams and left out deeper implications of dreams. It just didn't do anything for me.
Two out of five stars for me.
j.p.
MikePizzoff
30-Jan-2011, 05:35 AM
Just picked this up on Blu Ray at Blockbuster for $7. Saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago and really enjoyed it. I heard/read a great deal of people saying they didn't understand the ending. I don't know what there is to understand? It all made pretty clear sense to me...
Neil
30-Jan-2011, 09:00 AM
I heard/read a great deal of people saying they didn't understand the ending. I don't know what there is to understand? It all made pretty clear sense to me...
Yeh! The ending of the film was perfectly clear to me too!
Directed by Christopher Nolan
Written by Christopher Nolan
Leonardo DiCaprio ... Cobb
Joseph Gordon-Levitt ... Arthur
Ellen Page ... Ariadne
Tom Hardy ... Eames
Ken Watanabe ... Saito
Dileep Rao ... Yusuf
Cillian Murphy ... Robert Fischer
Tom Berenger ... Peter Browning
But joking aside... What did you think happened at the end then?
Neil
30-Jan-2011, 09:00 AM
I heard/read a great deal of people saying they didn't understand the ending. I don't know what there is to understand? It all made pretty clear sense to me...
Yeh! The ending of the film was perfectly clear to me too!
Directed by Christopher Nolan
Written by Christopher Nolan
Leonardo DiCaprio ... Cobb
Joseph Gordon-Levitt ... Arthur
Ellen Page ... Ariadne
Tom Hardy ... Eames
Ken Watanabe ... Saito
Dileep Rao ... Yusuf
Cillian Murphy ... Robert Fischer
Tom Berenger ... Peter Browning
But joking aside... What did you think happened at the end then?
MinionZombie
30-Jan-2011, 12:02 PM
ha, lol...
Here's my thoughts on the ending:
Clearly they all got out of the dream just fine, Cobb did get back into America, and he was re-united with his kids. We saw earlier in the film - in Mol's safe - that the spinning totem would spin with perfect balance and no wobbles at all, which clearly shows that it's spinning in a dream - so when Cobb does it, and it very clearly wobbles quite quickly after spinning, he's obviously in the real world. It's just that they delibertely cut to black before it falls over completely - a bit of a cheeky way to cut out, which is a more visually interesting way to cut to the credits that hang around and wait for it to fall over totally.
But as Nolan has himself said, the important thing about the scene isn't that the totem is spinning in the real world in a real way, but that Cobb doesn't feel the need to look at it anymore.
You could read a whole bunch into the fact that his kids are wearing the same clothes (or seem to be anyway), but again I think that's only there to deliberately provide speculation. I think it's pretty damn clear that they all got out of the dream(s) - I re-watched it last week and paid close attention to the levels of the dream, and how people get to where they are.
If you pay attention to what's going on in Inception, it's quite easy to follow ... but it's definitely easier to follow the second time around.
In summary, and for added definition - they all got out of the dream, Cobb got home in the real world, and he got his kids back - it was a happy ending, and all the better for it.
One thing that makes me giggle about Inception is the gag that the entire first level of the dream heist is pissing it down with rain because the chemist dude needs a pee. :lol:
bassman
30-Jan-2011, 01:59 PM
It's not the ending with the top that confuses me. That I get fine. It's up to the audience to determine whether or not he really made it to his kids. But as MZ says, the important part is that Cobb doesn't even care if it's real or not - he's there.
The part that confuses me is how did Cobb get back to reality(if indeed, he did)? He missed the second to last kick in the "rain" level. If he didn't get kicked out of that level, how then did he get kicked back to reality on the plane? Anybody got an explanation for this one?
MinionZombie
30-Jan-2011, 06:21 PM
It's not the ending with the top that confuses me. That I get fine. It's up to the audience to determine whether or not he really made it to his kids. But as MZ says, the important part is that Cobb doesn't even care if it's real or not - he's there.
The part that confuses me is how did Cobb get back to reality(if indeed, he did)? He missed the second to last kick in the "rain" level. If he didn't get kicked out of that level, how then did he get kicked back to reality on the plane? Anybody got an explanation for this one?
The kicks don't matter when you end up in limbo, so it read to me. Like when it happened to him and Mol, they killed themselves using a traintrack and a train ... so, although we don't see it, Cobb and thingymyjig (name escapes me right now) would do themselves in in Limbo, but first Cobb had to go there to help him remember to honour the agreement - because, as they say earlier in the film, being in limbo so long he'd forget there ever was an agreement.
Anyway - so they'd have topped themselves, which we know from the flashback to Cobb & Mol, but it's not important to see that. So that's how they got out.
bassman
30-Jan-2011, 06:25 PM
I see. But how did he get from his own Limbo(that he created with Mal) to Sato's? I was under the impression that everyone makes their own limbo?
Maybe I should see it again...
MikePizzoff
30-Jan-2011, 07:20 PM
I'd have to watch it again to explain how he got out of the limbo, but I understood it the first time around. Foggy memory.
The thing about the top is what really got me. So many people saying he was still in a dream and that's why the movie cuts to credits as the top is spinning. However, you clearly see the top wobbling, which it never did in the dream worlds.
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