View Full Version : Time to draw a line in the sand.
Danny
23-Jun-2010, 12:06 PM
Anchorman.
great movie?, OR GREATEST MOVIE?
inb4 'oh yeah, i ate a big red candle', 'milk was a bad choice!' and 'sex panther, 60% of the time- it works every time'.
paulannett
23-Jun-2010, 12:47 PM
I hate it.
It was a film very popular at uni, but i think a lot of people secretly dislike it because of peer pressure. Seriously.
It has little flashes of funny, but it's not the laughaton people crack it up to be.
Ben Stiller gets the funniest line, "Com esta, bitches?"
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 12:47 PM
I would rather have a middle option, but without I have to go with love it.
It's funny....there's no denying that, but I just got tired of it's HUGE popularity a few years ago. I couldn't go an hour without someone quoting "I Love Lamp" or one of the other jokes, so it started to drive me up the wall.
I also find Will Ferrel's shtick to be getting old. Most of his character's dialogue feels out of place, imo. But overall it's a funny flick.
paulannett
23-Jun-2010, 12:52 PM
I think you've nailed it on the head, Bassman. I was at uni when Anchorman hit its peak... Within weeks I was fed up of hearing about lamps, milk, space rockets in flight, sex panther, a whales vagina and BAAXXXXXTER! Will Ferrell gets tiresome too.
Same goes for Napoleon Dynamite actually, such a frustrating film.
paranoid101
23-Jun-2010, 01:03 PM
I love it, I also aspire to be like the Mighty Brick Tamland.
3pidemiC
23-Jun-2010, 01:38 PM
Milk was a bad choice!
AcesandEights
23-Jun-2010, 03:04 PM
Love it. Ferrell's shtick is getting old, but that's the way it goes with most comedic fads. At the time the movie was great and I still think it's funny as hell, it just needs a rest every now and then.
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 03:28 PM
Love it. Ferrell's shtick is getting old, but that's the way it goes with most comedic fads.
Unfortunately. Ferrell is the same one-note character in every film. Well...maybe Stranger Than Fiction excluded. But other than that he's the same as Michael Cera. Same guy, different movies.
They need to take some notes from the older generation of comedians that switch it up between roles...
AcesandEights
23-Jun-2010, 04:04 PM
Unfortunately. Ferrell is the same one-note character in every film. Well...maybe Stranger Than Fiction excluded. But other than that he's the same as Michael Cera. Same guy, different movies.
Hmmm, Cera gets a bad wrap for a kid who is basically a character actor for teen movies and the like. He's playing to an extreme physical type and is still pretty young. I don't know that he'll have staying power of any sort (doubt it) and don't see him as a true comedic presence, but rather a foil for comedy; the ol' browbeaten protagonist.
They need to take some notes from the older generation of comedians that switch it up between roles...
Can you give a few examples. I'm not trying to bust your balls, but I keep thinking of people who had largely the same roles, or are renown for their shticks or character types. Costello, Jerry Lewis, Dangerfield, the Marx brothers, most things in the Monty Python family, Brooks, Pryor, Steve Martin etc. usually have a certain consistency of presentation and approach to their roles or very similar roles. The ones that choose wildly divergent roles are often just the same character dressed up as someone else (Mel Brooks is a good example of this).
I think a lot of great talents grow and adjust over time, but the above aren't acting talents, so much as people who shine (to one degree or another) by tapping into their own comedic personalities, foibles, viewpoints and delivery-styles to such an extent that they are going to be known and typecast or revert to those choices that best fit their style and the expectation of their audiences.
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 04:09 PM
I was thinking of some former SNL'ers like Ferrell that have gone on to give different performances. Bill Murray, Billy Crystal, Robert Downey Jr, Adam Sandler, Dan Aykroyd, etc.
darth los
23-Jun-2010, 04:24 PM
Unfortunately. Ferrell is the same one-note character in every film. Well...maybe Stranger Than Fiction excluded. But other than that he's the same as Michael Cera. Same guy, different movies.
They need to take some notes from the older generation of comedians that switch it up between roles...
^^^^
Hate it. I don't find the man funny at all. :|
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AcesandEights
23-Jun-2010, 04:39 PM
Okay, Yeah. I think Murray, Sandler, Robert Downey Jr. & Billy Crystal are good examples of what you were probably going for (if I understand correctly), but even then it should be remembered that at some point not too long ago (10 years?) a lot of people would have said that all the Happy Gilmore shit that Sandler did was just the same, which it basically was. Has he grown since then? Sure, but it took time, willingness and--I think--a certain level of success and pull within the industry to have the freedom (bankability?) to reasonably do so. Even Murray had a hard time getting his earlier attempts at serious roles greenlit (just watched a docu on him on the Bio channel last week :D). It takes time, staying power and charisma I think.
Anyway, just as the style of all the Apatow films right now are the same, that style and presentation will eventually run its course in the public consciousness. Which is just a high-falutin' way of saying it gets old after going to the same old well for all of these things.
bassman
23-Jun-2010, 06:04 PM
Well....Ferrell has also done a few dramatic things plus huge summer blockbusters. So he's pretty much got his pick of the litter as of now. My complaint is more about his comedic roles. Something about the way he always has the same "feel" about him. His tone, vocal patterns, mannerisms. It just always feels the same.
Although I don't have the fondest of things to say about Ferrell....I do think his new flick, "The Other Guys" looks pretty funny.
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Mike70
23-Jun-2010, 06:36 PM
will ferrell is one of the 3 least funny people in the world right behind leno and jerry seinfeld.
i've laughed more at some funerals than i have at his flicks.
JDFP
23-Jun-2010, 06:40 PM
Okay, Yeah. I think Murray, Sandler, Robert Downey Jr. & Billy Crystal are good examples of what you were probably going for (if I understand correctly), but even then it should be remembered that at some point not too long ago (10 years?) a lot of people would have said that all the Happy Gilmore shit that Sandler did was just the same, which it basically was. Has he grown since then? Sure, but it took time, willingness and--I think--a certain level of success and pull within the industry to have the freedom (bankability?) to reasonably do so. Even Murray had a hard time getting his earlier attempts at serious roles greenlit (just watched a docu on him on the Bio channel last week :D). It takes time, staying power and charisma I think.
Anyway, just as the style of all the Apatow films right now are the same, that style and presentation will eventually run its course in the public consciousness. Which is just a high-falutin' way of saying it gets old after going to the same old well for all of these things.
Add Robin Williams to the list. I think his dramatic work is far superior than his comedic work. As far as Apatow's style of comedy coming to an end -- the sooner the better! Films like "Superbad" / "Knocked Up" / "Pineapple Express" -- they just aren't funny and are juvenile stupidity at best. I guess if you're 12 you could enjoy them, but I'd prefer a film that doesn't attempt to relate to people on the lowest common denominator possible (I think "Burn After Reading" and Paul Giamatti in "Cold Souls" are probably the best two comedies I've seen the last few years).
As far as Will Ferrell, I like the guy. He *MADE* SNL there for a number of years after the epic people from the 90's (Farley, Sandler, Hartman, etc.) left the show. After Ferrell left SNL the show went to hell in a hand-basket. I used to look forward to watching SNL -- sadly not the case any longer. I think his films have been mostly an extension of his humor from SNL with exception to "Stranger than Fiction" which was a great flick. I'd love to see Ferrell branch out and do some more intense/serious roles as I'm not a big fan of his "dumb-schtick" comedy much either.
As far as "The Anchorman" -- I moderately enjoy it depending on the mood I'm in. I think the flick is good not necessarily because of Ferrell but because of the whole cast picked for the film who worked together in an excellent way (Steve Carrell is fantastic in anything he does, Will Arnett is enjoyable too). So yeah, I generally dig the jive of "Anchorman" but it's nothing special to write-home about I don't think. I'm going with "like" and not "hate" or "love".
j.p.
darth los
23-Jun-2010, 06:54 PM
i've laughed more at some funerals than i have at his flicks.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Laugh of the day.
I happen to love seinfeld and Curb your enthusiasm though. :shifty:
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