Twilight: Eclipse

[JDFP]

So, has anyone had an opportunity to see this brilliant work of film-making genius yet?

Yet again it's time for a new "Twilight" film so we can see hunky guys running around with their shirt off (abs! abs! abs!) and some wonderful romance scenes. I know everyone here is extremely excited and looking forward to seeing this absolute gem of movie-making and I'm certainly looking forward to all the reviews that will be presented here.

I know I can't wait to watch this film! Will Team Jacob win over Team Edward or will tragedy strike? I know, like the rest of you, I can barely hold back my excitement! No doubt, this is going to be not only the film of the summer but the film of the year as well just like the first two "Twilight" films were two of the best (and scary!) horror films ever created as well. I know I celebrate every opportunity watching both of the released films on Blu-Ray as often as possible.

Ah, and that Robert Pattison and Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart! Aren't they just amazing actors? Man, everyone in these films from Dakota Fanning to the extras are just pure talent. The books are just so great and I've gone through five copies of all of them from reading them non-stop. That Stephenie Meyer is an amazing author! She certainly beats Anne Rice or any other vampire writer out there without a doubt.

Anyway, I'm soooo excited to see "Twilight: Eclipse" even though I know I'll be bummed about having to wait in a line to go see it. But, what can you do? It's worth waiting in a line with all the other fantastic fans to see this great work!

Let me know your thoughts on this greatest series of films ever as well and we can show our appreciation for Ms. Meyer and her great work as well as showing our appreciation for the films!

j.p.





:evil:

[clanglee]

Hey now. . . .Dakota Fanning IS a talent. She has had quite a career already and it doesn't appear to be stopping any time soon. :p

[wayzim]

Hey now. . . .Dakota Fanning IS a talent. She has had quite a career already and it doesn't appear to be stopping any time soon. :p

Yah, Dakota is a talented young lady, though I wasn't happy with her screaming kid role in Spielberg's War of The Worlds, but that was the part as written. She also did some voice work for a Miyazaki anime film, My Neighbor Totoro, along with her sister Elle who played ( not so coincidentally. ) sisters that encounter a Nature spirit.
She kicked major ass in Man on Fire, however.

As for Twilight and that whole cult, Man, how the Vampire has fallen.
I'd gone along for the ride with them since I first picked up Dracula as a kid. I even didn't mind 30 Days of Night, because at least those bad boys were trying (despite being the Forrest Gumps of the Undead. )but Edward and Crew make Lestat and that whiny Anne Rice bunch look butch by comparision.
After giving the first film a look-see, the rest seem equally anemic.

Wayne Z
Angel: "They're "children" making up stories about friendly vampires to make themselves feel secure in the dark. "
BTVS, Lie To Me
[when told that vampires are known as the Lonely Ones]
Xander Harris: Oh, we usually call them "the nasty, pointy, bitey ones".

[bassman]

It's for girls. Get over it.

[clanglee]

It's for girls. Get over it.

So's my penis. . . . . .and the only way to get over that is with a ladder!!:D

[Tricky]

Girls get wide ons for the twilight films & books, most of the girls on my facebook friends list keep going on about them! and not a day goes by when the red top newspapers over here dont have pictures and articles about "R-patz" as they've dubbed him :rolleyes:
I havent actually seen any of the films, but I can tell that because certain people I know like them, that I definitely wont. I like my vampire stories creepy and sinister, not Dawsons creek with vampires. Theres that TV series "true blood" on at the moment as well which is more of the same crap!

[clanglee]

Theres that TV series "true blood" on at the moment as well which is more of the same crap!

Nah, TrueBlood is pretty far removed from fucking Twilight.

[Tricky]

Nah, TrueBlood is pretty far removed from fucking Twilight.

I watched an episode though and as usual all cast members were extremely good looking & not far out of their teens, with crap vampires and lots of sex scenes, still seemed pretty much a teeny bopper show for the lost/heroes/flashforward crowd

[wayzim]

I watched an episode though and as usual all cast members were extremely good looking & not far out of their teens, with crap vampires and lots of sex scenes, still seemed pretty much a teeny bopper show for the lost/heroes/flashforward crowd

Your handle is right on, as I'm trying to figure out the connection between Teen Vamp Flicks and the shows you mentioned.
While hardly Teen Fodder, True Blood is definitely in the touchy feely camp, albeit more Southern Gothic. Anna Paquin is sporting a nice little bod, I like that. Still not enough to hook me.

Wayne Z
Principal Snyder: 'That's the kind of wooley minded liberal thinking that gets you eaten. '
BTVS, The Puppet Show.

[LouCipherr]

Twilight = vampires for tweens
True Blood = Twilight for adults

Same shit, different "wrapper"

[DjfunkmasterG]

Twilight = vampires for tweens
True Blood = Twilight for adults

Same shit, different "wrapper"

But oh what a wrapper, especially the lesbo scene between Pam and Yvette. :D

[LouCipherr]

But oh what a wrapper, especially the lesbo scene between Pam and Yvette. :D

*yawn*

That show bores me as much as Twilight. :lol: I got through, what, 3 episodes of season 1?

If I wanted to see lesbians, True Blood would NOT be my first choice for viewing. :p

*yawn*

[DjfunkmasterG]

Well I find Pam hot, plus the show has two great redheads that keep me interested.

[LouCipherr]

Well I find Pam hot, plus the show has two great redheads that keep me interested.

You wanna see redheads? I have plenty of movies that feature them - they've way surpassed the NC-17 rating too. :lol: I think that would be more entertaining than anything on cable tv. :shifty:

[DjfunkmasterG]

But are they Jessica and The Queen hot? Most likely not, unless you have VAMPIRE lesbian porn somewhere and haven't told me.

[JDFP]

The show "The Vampire Diaries" would have to be the best from the lot of "Twilight"/"True Blood" etc. teen vampire things. It actually has an intelligent writing staff that isn't afraid to be tongue-in-cheek (or fang-in-cheek I should say). It's worth watching.

I become ill when I see people comparing Stephenie Meyer to Anne Rice. Anne is probably one of the most talented horror writers of all time and her work is amazing. I'd go as far as saying the novel "The Vampire Lestat" is probably one of the finest (if not finest) vampire novel ever written. Stephenie Meyer reminds me of young adult writers like "Goosebumps" from back in the early 90's. You can't compare them.

The whole "Twilight" thing is a terrible fad that should soon die. There's nothing wrong with a film/series being targeted at younger females if it's done RIGHT and is compelling story-telling. The "Twilight" series is neither. Stephen King has even gone so far as calling Stephenie Meyer: "A terrible writer" and he almost never publicly bad-mouth's anyone.

j.p.

[LouCipherr]

But are they Jessica and The Queen hot? Most likely not, unless you have VAMPIRE lesbian porn somewhere and haven't told me.

:shifty:

[DjfunkmasterG]

:shifty:

Is that a yes? :D

[DubiousComforts]

I can't believe there is such a thread soiling this message board. Y'all a bunch of nancy-pantsy amateurs.

These are vampire films made for ADULT MALES:

http://homepage3.nifty.com/housei/VampireLovers.jpg

And if you don't own and cherish this film...

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/237/twinsofevilgdi012.jpg

...you may consider your membership to the Self-Respecting Hot-Blooded Male Club hereby rescinded!


edit: photo link fixed

[bassman]

I'll never understand why most guys take this Twilight shit so personally. It's a movie....you're not required to view it. And if you do see it and don't like it - just move on rather than complaining every time a sequel is released.

Then you get the complaint of "oh those movies ruin the vampire and werewolf genres!". Bullshit. Those genres have had so many bad entries, there's nothing else that can ruin it any further.

Let the girls have their "dreamy, sparkly" vampires. I mean....what good would complaining do, anyway? Regardless of masses of men hating the films, they're still going to make serious money from the tweens. Besides, there are only 1 or 2 films left and it will all be over.

I think Kevin Smith nailed it. Twilight is Star Wars for girls. We could go round-and-round about how "star wars was better!", but everyone knows those films aren't for everyone either. Just as some older guys were seeing star wars as an outlandish and childish space fantasy, similar things could be said for Twilight.

Turn that finger around for a minute. We discuss zombie films on a daily basis. Most of which, are AWFUL. You think everyone's going to agree with that? We're in the same boat as the twilighters.

Just my .02

[DubiousComforts]

I'll never understand why most guys take this Twilight shit so personally.

Because giving it a pass is tantamount to making excuses. This crap has been diluting the genre of HORROR MOVIES & TELEVISION since the retardation known as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

People made excuses for it then, now look where it's gotten us. Horror is supposed to be scary, not corporate drivel manufactured for the tween mentality.

If you watched and enjoyed Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you are a tool and it's you're fault that contemporary "horror" films & television suck ass.

http://godardsletterboxes.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/buffy_the_vampire_slayer_sarah_michelle_gellar_01. jpg
"I Feel Pretty"

[bassman]

Because the genre was flawless before these newer movies and shows came along.:confused:

http://24hourstomidnight.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/poster-blacula.jpg

[AcesandEights]

If you watched and enjoyed Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you are a tool and it's you're fault that contemporary "horror" films & television suck ass.

What does the special alone time I used to spend with myself while watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer have anything to do with horror?

It was all perfectly natural, I assure you. I used lanolin.

[DubiousComforts]

Because the genre was flawless before these newer movies and shows came along.:confused:

1.) Nobody ever said anything about "flawless." Straw man argument debunked.

2.) It may help to actually watch a movie with William Marshall portraying Prince Mamuwalde prior to pretending you know what you're talking about.


What does the special alone time I used to spend with myself while watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer have anything to do with horror?
Watch HAMMER FILMS. The women are much hotter than Buffy.

[bassman]

1.) Nobody ever said anything about "flawless." Straw man argument debunked.

No, but you're claiming it all started with Buffy. I'm just saying that there were awful vampire films long before that...



2.) It may help to actually watch a movie with William Marshall portraying Prince Mamuwalde prior to pretending you know what you're talking about.

Because you know what I have or have not seen? You're often a hostile little fucker, you know that?:p

[AcesandEights]

1.) Nobody ever said anything about "flawless." Straw man argument debunked.

2.) It may help to actually watch a movie with William Marshall portraying Prince Mamuwalde prior to pretending you know what you're talking about.


Watch HAMMER FILMS. The women are much hotter than Buffy.

Actually, I agree. The women of the Hammer films (wasn't there a book of the same title???) were usually classically beautiful.

[darth los]

Yah, Dakota is a talented young lady, though I wasn't happy with her screaming kid role in Spielberg's War of The Worlds, but that was the part as written. She also did some voice work for a Miyazaki anime film, My Neighbor Totoro, along with her sister Elle who played ( not so coincidentally. ) sisters that encounter a Nature spirit.
She kicked major ass in Man on Fire, however.

She also did coraline, which was pretty good as well.

:cool:

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Because you know what I have or have not seen? You're often a hostile little fucker, you know that?:p

Everyone knows that.

You still acknowledge his posts?

Interesting.

:cool:

[bassman]

She also did coraline, which was pretty good as well.

huh. I didn't know she voiced Coraline....

Love that movie, though.

[Danny]

Because giving it a pass is tantamount to making excuses. This crap has been diluting the genre of HORROR MOVIES & TELEVISION since the retardation known as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

People made excuses for it then, now look where it's gotten us. Horror is supposed to be scary, not corporate drivel manufactured for the tween mentality.

If you watched and enjoyed Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you are a tool and it's you're fault that contemporary "horror" films & television suck ass.


Well that's, like, your opinion man.

motherfuck this noise, buffy was great. people are just desensitized from 80's horror going to over the top to the point of becoming a satire of itself. don't blame it on buffy when the damage was long done.

or did freddy krueger rapping with the fat boys happen less than 20 years ago?

[JDFP]

I'll never understand why most guys take this Twilight shit so personally. It's a movie....you're not required to view it. And if you do see it and don't like it - just move on rather than complaining every time a sequel is released.

Then you get the complaint of "oh those movies ruin the vampire and werewolf genres!". Bullshit. Those genres have had so many bad entries, there's nothing else that can ruin it any further.

Let the girls have their "dreamy, sparkly" vampires. I mean....what good would complaining do, anyway? Regardless of masses of men hating the films, they're still going to make serious money from the tweens. Besides, there are only 1 or 2 films left and it will all be over.

I think Kevin Smith nailed it. Twilight is Star Wars for girls. We could go round-and-round about how "star wars was better!", but everyone knows those films aren't for everyone either. Just as some older guys were seeing star wars as an outlandish and childish space fantasy, similar things could be said for Twilight.

Turn that finger around for a minute. We discuss zombie films on a daily basis. Most of which, are AWFUL. You think everyone's going to agree with that? We're in the same boat as the twilighters.

Just my .02

Hey J.,

Have you ever met a girl that didn't take an opportunity to rip apart "stupid guy movies" like Romero's Holy Trilogy or the Holy "Star Wars" trilogy? I'm just releasing some steam man, that's all. These "Twilight" films are just so terrible I can't help but comment on their suckiness. Girls do the same about attacking our 'guy' films we love, it's only fitting I bitch/whine about the terrible nature of their beloved "Twilight" shit.

The only thing that really gets under my skin (see above) is when idiots mistake Stephenie Meyer as anything other than an amateur young-adult author. Anyone who compares her writing to Anne Rice, Poppy Z. Brite, or actual talented ADULT horror novelists just upsets me.

j.p.

[bassman]

Have you ever met a girl that didn't take an opportunity to rip apart "stupid guy movies" like Romero's Holy Trilogy or the Holy "Star Wars" trilogy?

My wife. Why do you think I married her?:lol:

I understand where you're coming from, though. The films are pretty shitty. I just deal with them for what they are. Teen and female entertainment.

Hey....at least these films have got some good looking women I can stare at when i'm forced to watch them!:p

[JDFP]

Everyone knows that.

You still acknowledge his posts?

Interesting.

:cool:


Eh, Jim often comes across as an absolute jack-ass in responding to people (some would say the same about me too :p). I don't think it's intentional though. He's passionate with what he's passionate about and he always seems to make some good points/posts. He does, occasionally, also add quite a bit to the conversation by pointing out some fascinating thoughts into it that others haven't thought about. Like all the rest of us that are human here (everyone except Terran) -- Jim is human. Cut the guy a little bit of slack as I don't think he's intentionally trying to come across as an ass to people. :cool:

j.p.

[AcesandEights]

Jim is human. Cut the guy a little bit of slack as I don't think he's intentionally trying to come across as an ass to people. :cool:



I agree. While Dubs is quite brusque, he's undoubtedly genuine, is passionate about Romero's works & the genre and has done a ton for the wider community. He's also done some real classy & kind things, as far as I'm concerned.

And I say this despite my being, by implication of many of the things he posts, some sort of backwards-evolving troglodyte :lol:

[LouCipherr]

Turn that finger around for a minute. We discuss zombie films on a daily basis. Most of which, are AWFUL. You think everyone's going to agree with that? We're in the same boat as the twilighters.

Perhaps, with the exception of our zombie flicks aren't made to cater to the lowest common denominator of tweens. :D

[AcesandEights]

Perhaps, with the exception of our zombie flicks aren't made to cater to the lowest common denominator of tweens. :D

Oh, snap! Bassman pulled a Starling, Lou returns with a Lechter!

You see a lot, Doctor.
But are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself?

[DjfunkmasterG]

Perhaps, with the exception of our zombie flicks aren't made to cater to the lowest common denominator of tweens. :D

Really? You honestly believe that? I guess we didn't watch the same version of LAND of the DEAD :p

[bassman]

Perhaps, with the exception of our zombie flicks aren't made to cater to the lowest common denominator of tweens. :D

Day08? Dawn04? Diary?

[AcesandEights]

Really? You honestly believe that? I guess we didn't watch the same version of LAND of the DEAD :p

Dude, I'll agree that Dawn 04 was better in some respects than Land...and I realize you hate Land, but it was hardly made for teens. Now, Dawn 04 is a teen-oriented film, 4reals!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Day08? Dawn04? Diary?


Dude, I'll agree that Dawn 04 was better in some respects than Land...and I realize you hate Land, but it was hardly made for teens. Now, Dawn 04 is a teen-oriented film, 4reals!

No fucking way... DAWN 04 was more adult oriented than LAND. Land had Big Daddy Jar Jar... If that doesn't scream stupidty tween writing I dunno what does?

[Danny]

the uk premier was just on the news.

one bloke in a sea of screaming girls from tweens to midlife crisis.

that guy is incredibly suspicious.

[bassman]

Dawn 04 has more of that run-of-the-mill "go, go, go!" teenager feeling. And a "cool" soundtrack.

[LouCipherr]

Really? You honestly believe that? I guess we didn't watch the same version of LAND of the DEAD


Day08? Dawn04? Diary?


Dude, I'll agree that Dawn 04 was better in some respects than Land...and

I don't consider those nor Land (:finger: for that one, Dj.. :lol:) geared toward tweens anywhere NEAR as much as Twilight is.

C'mon, ya'll are reaching now, and very, very far. Even including Big Daddy Dj.. :lol: :p

[DjfunkmasterG]

I don't consider those nor Land (:finger: for that one, Dj.. :lol:) geared toward tweens anywhere NEAR as much as Twilight is.

C'mon, ya'll are reaching now, and very, very far. Even including Big Daddy Dj.. :lol: :p

My opinion... :p

LAND of the DEAD is the Twilight of Zombie films.

[AcesandEights]

No fucking way... DAWN 04 was more adult oriented than LAND. Land had Big Daddy Jar Jar... If that doesn't scream stupidty tween writing I dunno what does?

An ill-conceived, poorly written and implemented character hardly makes Land a teen-oriented film, in and of itself. Dawn 04 had very little internal plot consistency, expected the watcher to not be bothered by the individuals joking about and acting like stock, every day characters in the midst of a world-ending scenario, crappy youth-oriented music, hot young plastic actors and actresses and all the requisite tropes of a Fridaynight teen horror film.

If you can't recognize this fact, then I'll have to let Bassman and MZ loose on you with their rubber hoses.

[JDFP]

My opinion... :p

LAND of the DEAD is the Twilight of Zombie films.

Eh, that's harsh, Gary, in comparing "Twilight" to "Land of the Dead". "Twilight", as God-awful as it is, deserves a little more credit than comparing it to "Land" -- that's just harsh dude. :)

j.p.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Eh, that's harsh, Gary, in comparing "Twilight" to "Land of the Dead". "Twilight", as God-awful as it is, deserves a little more credit than comparing it to "Land" -- that's just harsh dude. :)

j.p.

You're right, comparing LAND to Twilight does Twilight a dis-service.

[LouCipherr]

My opinion... :p

True, it's your opinion... it's just a shame it's wrong. http://enderzero.net/smilies/poke.gif

:lol:

[BillyRay]

Zombies don't run.

Vampires don't sparkle.

End of Argument.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4406692462_9bf0980639.jpg


Honestly, could give a damn about Sparkly Mormon Vampires. The books were not wriiten for me. The films were not shot for me. They're not rying to separate me from my hard-earned (:shifty:) money.

[darth los]

Zombies don't run.

Vampires don't sparkle.

End of Argument.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4406692462_9bf0980639.jpg


Honestly, could give a damn about Sparkly Mormon Vampires. The books were not wriiten for me. The films were not shot for me. They're not rying to separate me from my hard-earned (:shifty:) money.


Not if your significant other wants to see it.

Then there's a double whammy. You have to pay and be forced to watch it ! :eek:

:cool:

[LouCipherr]

Y'know, one of the things that I brought up to my wife (who is a major Twilight fan, god help her) is this: The whole vampire thing was based on Vlad "The Impailer" Tepish - so how did we get from some sicko motherfucker that used to stick hundreds or thousands of people on stakes to this lovey-dovey romantic bullshit which is used to represent vampires now? I want to see throats torn out, people getting slaughtered, not sparkly-skinned freaks who woo teenagers.. I mean, WTF?!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Y'know, one of the things that I brought up to my wife (who is a major Twilight fan, god help her) is this: The whole vampire thing was based on Vlad "The Impailer" Tepish - so how did we get from some sicko motherfucker that used to stick hundreds or thousands of people on stakes to this lovey-dovey romantic bullshit which is used to represent vampires now? I want to see throats torn out, people getting slaughtered, not sparkly-skinned freaks who woo teenagers.. I mean, WTF?!

got to admit, Vlad really did know how to put out the NOT WELCOME/NO TRESSPASSING mat. :D

[darth los]

I want to see throats torn out, people getting slaughtered, not sparkly-skinned freaks who woo teenagers.. I mean, WTF?!

Try renting daybreakers.

There's no shortage of that stuff in there. Plus it stars Ethan Hawke and Willam Defoe. So it's not a total loss.

:cool:

[DjfunkmasterG]

Try renting daybreakers.

There's no shortage of that stuff in there. Plus it stars Ethan Hawke and Willam Defoe. So it's not a total loss.

:cool:

But take them out and it is a total loss :lol:

[BillyRay]

Plus there's the remake of "Let the Right One In" to look forward.....

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

(Almost made it through that sentance with a straight face)

[DjfunkmasterG]

Plus there's the remake of "Let the Right One In" to look forward.....

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

(Almost made it through that sentance with a straight face)

But you didn't. :lol:

[darth los]

But take them out and it is a total loss :lol:

You're probably right. Imo, it was another film with an interesting premise that failed to reach it's potential.

However, nowdays you can say that about many films can't you? :lol:

:cool:

[DjfunkmasterG]

You're probably right. Imo, it was another film with an interesting premise that failed to reach it's potential.

However, nowdays you can say that about many films can't you? :lol:

:cool:

As much as it pains me to say it... yes

[bassman]

Plus there's the remake of "Let the Right One In" to look forward.....


Then you should enjoy this...

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[LouCipherr]

Y'know, now that I think about it, where's my damn documentary on Vlad Tepish? I think every tween should be forced to watch one (if it exists and is accurate) and explained to them that THIS is where these stupid romantic love stories originated. :elol:

[DubiousComforts]

motherfuck this noise,

Are you black? If not, then why are you talking 'hood? You lily-white ass namby-pansy. :p

Here you are from the U.k., the land of freakin' Hammer Films and yet you profess gay-fawning over Buffy. Even my homosexual friends say, "that's really queer."

Three words: BUFFY. ANGEL. CHARMED.

[clanglee]

An , hot young plastic actors and actresses .

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??????????????????????????:confused:

[darth los]

^^^^

Now that's a great cast ! :thumbsup:

:cool:

[JDFP]

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/eureka_bios/crops/matt-frewer01.jpg
??????????????????????????:confused:

Bumpty bumpty bump... My life for you! MY LIFE FOR YOU! Bumpty bumpty bump! :D

God, I can't resist... any time I see Matt Frewer that gets stuck in my head...

j.p.

[clanglee]

Y'know, one of the things that I brought up to my wife (who is a major Twilight fan, god help her) is this: The whole vampire thing was based on Vlad "The Impailer" Tepish - so how did we get from some sicko motherfucker that used to stick hundreds or thousands of people on stakes to this lovey-dovey romantic bullshit which is used to represent vampires now? I want to see throats torn out, people getting slaughtered, not sparkly-skinned freaks who woo teenagers.. I mean, WTF?!

Well, Dracula was based on Vlad the Impailer. . . .but the vampyre myth goes back quite a bit before that.

[BillyRay]

Bumpty bumpty bump... My life for you! MY LIFE FOR YOU! Bumpty bumpty bump! :D

God, I can't resist... any time I see Matt Frewer that gets stuck in my head...



Really, every time I see Matt Frewer, I want a Coke...

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/max-headroom.jpg

[bassman]

Yup....Max is the first that comes to my mind. Wasn't he also the neighbor dad in Honey I Shrunk the Kids? Wow it's pathetic that I remember all this...

[JDFP]

Yup....Max is the first that comes to my mind. Wasn't he also the neighbor dad in Honey I Shrunk the Kids? Wow it's pathetic that I remember all this...

Aye, he's done alot of fantastic roles.

Of course, none of them will ever compare to what should have been his Golden Globe Award winning performance for Trashcan Man! :p

j.p.

[BillyRay]

Yep, and he was the villain in that Generation X tv movie, Moloch in Watchmen, an executive in Monty Python's Meaning of Life/ Crimson Perminant Asuurance,

And let's not forget his role in this forgotten gem:

http://i2.kickasstorrents.com/movies/0363547_big.jpg

[wayzim]

The show "The Vampire Diaries" would have to be the best from the lot of "Twilight"/"True Blood" etc. teen vampire things. It actually has an intelligent writing staff that isn't afraid to be tongue-in-cheek (or fang-in-cheek I should say). It's worth watching.

I become ill when I see people comparing Stephenie Meyer to Anne Rice. Anne is probably one of the most talented horror writers of all time and her work is amazing. I'd go as far as saying the novel "The Vampire Lestat" is probably one of the finest (if not finest) vampire novel ever written. Stephenie Meyer reminds me of young adult writers like "Goosebumps" from back in the early 90's. You can't compare them.

The whole "Twilight" thing is a terrible fad that should soon die. There's nothing wrong with a film/series being targeted at younger females if it's done RIGHT and is compelling story-telling. The "Twilight" series is neither. Stephen King has even gone so far as calling Stephenie Meyer: "A terrible writer" and he almost never publicly bad-mouth's anyone.

j.p.

It was a lady friend who pushed Rices erotic books on me, one trilogy which was a very adult take on the Sleeping Beauty myth. This series put most porn fantasies we guys can have to shame. She also did Exit To Eden, which was a good book but a God Awful movie. Dana Delany in fetish gear was the only saving grace.

Wayne Z
Buffy: "I would mope around in my room, listening to that DIVINYLS song 'I Touch Myself.' "
"Of course I didn't know what it meant at the time .. "
BTVS, Lie To Me

[DubiousComforts]

Eh, Jim often comes across as an absolute jack-ass in responding to people (some would say the same about me too :p). I don't think it's intentional though.

"Jim" who? Of course I intentionally come off as an "absolute jack-ass." What's the matter with you? It's the only sort of discourse the absolute jack-asses here can understand.

Eventually, they'll just skulk away and be forced to ignore the unfettered chaos. Which reminds me...


No, but you're claiming it all started with Buffy. I'm just saying that there were awful vampire films long before that...

There was awful everything prior to Buffy, but at the very least we didn't have Beverly Hills 90210 with vampires. Buffy created that asinine trend which small-minded audiences made popular and now congrats, idiots, you've got Twilight.

You can't afford to act high and mighty over Twilight if you make excuses for pedestrian entertainment like Buffy.


You're often a hostile little fucker, you know that?:p

And I'll bet it gives you a woody. :p

Three words: BUFFY. ANGEL. CHARMED.

I win!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Yep, and he was the villain in that Generation X tv movie, Moloch in Watchmen, an executive in Monty Python's Meaning of Life/ Crimson Perminant Asuurance,

And let's not forget his role in this forgotten gem:

http://i2.kickasstorrents.com/movies/0363547_big.jpg

Which is so much better on HD DVD :lol:

[SymphonicX]

So, has anyone had an opportunity to see this brilliant work of film-making genius yet?

Yet again it's time for a new "Twilight" film so we can see hunky guys running around with their shirt off (abs! abs! abs!) and some wonderful romance scenes. I know everyone here is extremely excited and looking forward to seeing this absolute gem of movie-making and I'm certainly looking forward to all the reviews that will be presented here.

I know I can't wait to watch this film! Will Team Jacob win over Team Edward or will tragedy strike? I know, like the rest of you, I can barely hold back my excitement! No doubt, this is going to be not only the film of the summer but the film of the year as well just like the first two "Twilight" films were two of the best (and scary!) horror films ever created as well. I know I celebrate every opportunity watching both of the released films on Blu-Ray as often as possible.

Ah, and that Robert Pattison and Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart! Aren't they just amazing actors? Man, everyone in these films from Dakota Fanning to the extras are just pure talent. The books are just so great and I've gone through five copies of all of them from reading them non-stop. That Stephenie Meyer is an amazing author! She certainly beats Anne Rice or any other vampire writer out there without a doubt.

Anyway, I'm soooo excited to see "Twilight: Eclipse" even though I know I'll be bummed about having to wait in a line to go see it. But, what can you do? It's worth waiting in a line with all the other fantastic fans to see this great work!

Let me know your thoughts on this greatest series of films ever as well and we can show our appreciation for Ms. Meyer and her great work as well as showing our appreciation for the films!

j.p.





:evil:


If an outsider was to read this, they'd INSTANTLY know you were bullshitting because of this line:

"That Stephenie Meyer is an amazing author! She certainly beats Anne Rice or any other vampire writer out there without a doubt."

you made a very bad assumption there - that twilight fans even know who Anne Rice is....

[JDFP]

If an outsider was to read this, they'd INSTANTLY know you were bullshitting because of this line:

"That Stephenie Meyer is an amazing author! She certainly beats Anne Rice or any other vampire writer out there without a doubt."

you made a very bad assumption there - that twilight fans even know who Anne Rice is....

Touche, good sir. That is a bold assumption on my behalf.

I'd say that most of the Twilighters would just look at you like: "Who?" if you mention Anne Rice and the rest of them would dismiss her as just being less of a writer because she's not their beloved and venerated Stephenie Meyer. :)

j.p.

[SymphonicX]

Touche, good sir. That is a bold assumption on my behalf.

I'd say that most of the Twilighters would just look at you like: "Who?" if you mention Anne Rice and the rest of them would dismiss her as just being less of a writer because she's not their beloved and venerated Stephenie Meyer. :)

j.p.

And oh my God the fan fiction that must've come from this rubbish is most probably unreadable - imagine a generation of writers who've only read Stephanie Meyer books. Christ.

One thing I loved about Anne Rice was one of her latest books was absolutely trounced on Amazon by her fans - and she used her account to write a massive response justifying her actions and intentions for characters like Lestat etc - I say latest books, this happened at least 7 years ago - but I remember the moment very well, hilarious.

[DjfunkmasterG]

This Twilight hype is getting kind of annoying, now everyone under 18 is going to think Vampires sparkle and us older folks will be saying...













http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs049.ash2/35819_124440644265998_100001001884589_136410_73742 22_n.jpg

[LouCipherr]

:lol:

"It's funny 'cause it's true!"


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/LouCipherr/Funny1/twilight-hump.gif

[rightwing401]

I think this review of New Moon sums up my feelings about the whole damn Twilight craze.

X7in8SI6K4I

[Neil]

I watched an episode though and as usual all cast members were extremely good looking & not far out of their teens, with crap vampires and lots of sex scenes, still seemed pretty much a teeny bopper show for the lost/heroes/flashforward crowd

Don't agree... Quite happily walks between black humour to nigh on horror... Not your average teeny bopper series IMHO...

[DubiousComforts]

Twilight's Eclipse knocked off top spot by Despicable Me (http://www.purplerevolver.com/bulletin/news/12766-twilights-eclipse-knocked-off-top-spot-by-despicable-me.html)

rX7wtNOkuHo


http://admin.click-showbiz.com/admin/article/articleimages/1279032279-00033864.jpg
It's debatable which character looks more fake.

[bassman]

That-a-way to stick it to a multi-billion dollar franchise that has absolutely no chance of failing to bring in a profit between the last two films!

Wait a minute....

[DubiousComforts]

That-a-way to stick it to a multi-billion dollar franchise
Miley Cyrus is a billion-dollar franchise. So are the Jonas Brothers.

Are we learning yet?

[wayzim]

Don't agree... Quite happily walks between black humour to nigh on horror... Not your average teeny bopper series IMHO...

Buffy The Series was Joss Whedons attempt to rescue his baby from the broad uneven farce of a film it had devolved into.
He didn't diss the movie entirely, using it to spring board the TV show ( which was set not long after. )
As Neil points out, the show was largely sharp and on point. That was so long as Joss was involved. We had Female Empowerment for the ladies (the topic of many a college thesis)and we guys had both Xander Harris and Rupert Giles to add the necessary male commentary.
But when Joss went off to work on Firefly, his coproducer/writer ( Marti Noxon ) nearly ruined the show by delving into Buffy banging Spike, Willow becoming a magick addict, and generally crashing every major character on the show.
Fortunately Joss was able to turn it around in time for a slam bang series finale which created a new paradigm for future Slayer mythology.

Wayne Z
Unapologetic Male Buffy Fan.
Besides, alot of fine ladies loved me for it. That ain't a bad thing.

[DubiousComforts]

Don't agree... Quite happily walks between black humour to nigh on horror... Not your average teeny bopper series IMHO...


Buffy The Series was Joss Whedons attempt to rescue his baby from the broad uneven farce of a film it had devolved into.
And too bad for Whedon that he failed miserably. Kristy Swanson is way hotter than Sarah Michelle Geller who is more adept at being a Cover Girl than an actress. Swanson also realistically passes for a high schooler, as opposed to that wrinkled fruitcake posing behind her.

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/buffythevampireslayer.jpg

Btw, Neil was referring to True Blood in response to Tricky's post, not Buffy.

[bassman]

Miley Cyrus is a billion-dollar franchise. So are the Jonas Brothers.

Are we learning yet?

Learning plenty. You're whining like one of the school girls that watch this stuff while they're laughing all the way to the bank. Keep up the good work, though. You might make a difference with HPotD's 12 members if you keep it up.:lol:

[shootemindehead]

Because giving it a pass is tantamount to making excuses. This crap has been diluting the genre of HORROR MOVIES & TELEVISION since the retardation known as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

People made excuses for it then, now look where it's gotten us. Horror is supposed to be scary, not corporate drivel manufactured for the tween mentality.

If you watched and enjoyed Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you are a tool and it's you're fault that contemporary "horror" films & television suck ass.


Bingo.

It's one of the reasons I fuckin hate Joss bleedin Whedon.

All of the shitty girly "pseudo horror" that's pollutes TV and cinema today stems from that wanker's influence.

[Neil]

Bingo.

It's one of the reasons I fuckin hate Joss bleedin Whedon.

All of the shitty girly "pseudo horror" that's pollutes TV and cinema today stems from that wanker's influence.

*smack!*

I liked Buffy, and loved Firefly!

[JDFP]

Wait, who is classifying "Buffy" the series as Horror? :confused:

Just because a show has "horror"-like elements doesn't mean it's horror.

I always considered "Buffy" to be more of a drama series, and as a drama I thought it was sharp and often witty (especially the dialogue) but I've never mistaken it as being "horror" before.

j.p.

[shootemindehead]

*smack!*

I liked Buffy, and loved Firefly!

*Ducks...*

"ha ha, you missed!"


"Buffy'n'Firefly are crap!!!" runs away...........

[AcesandEights]

"Buffy'n'Firefly are crap!!!" runs away...........

For clarification, what pieces/types of entertainment don't you think of as crap, Shootem'? You seem to dislike a lot of things. Is it just GAR that passes muster?

[shootemindehead]

Yep, I dislike a lot of things. Because a lot of things aren't very likable and actually a lot of GAR's stuff is rubbish too. :D Outside of his Living dead material, there's really only 'Martin' that is worth re-watching numerous times. Let's be honest, Romero's a hack that struck it lucky with his corpses. But, we're all happy he did so.

I can be very hard to please, no doubt. But, when something is good, I'll sing it's praises.

I can be very forgiving of a lot of things though, if the general ideas are good.

But, far too often, there are no ideas.

I do tend to dislike a lot of TV material, because usually it's dumbed down or watered down in some way for mass consumption. That kind of thing loses me very quickly. I also find most TV and cinema projects throw in un-necessary "humor" or "lightheartedness" into the mix. Attempts at humour for humour's sake and it always falls flat on it's face.

That's why I'm a 'Day of the Dead' kind of chap and not a 'Dawn of the Dead' type. Although the latter is good too. :D

Problem is when I do find TV stuff I like, it gets cancelled, like 'Rome' or 'Deadwood'. While shit like 'Buffy' or 'True Blood' drones on and on, long after it should.

Knowing my luck 'The Walking Dead' will be the best thing to hit TV is years...and it'll get cancelled after 1 series.

[Danny]

Wait, who is classifying "Buffy" the series as Horror? :confused:

Just because a show has "horror"-like elements doesn't mean it's horror.

I always considered "Buffy" to be more of a drama series, and as a drama I thought it was sharp and often witty (especially the dialogue) but I've never mistaken it as being "horror" before.

j.p.


Go watch the award winning episode 'hush', it might change your mind, its one of my favourite episodes in all 7 seasons.

[blind2d]

Ah yes, Hush. The episode that gave me my first nightmare (seriously! And that was just the TV spot!)
Great one, that. One of the best for "horror" in the series.

[wayzim]

Ah yes, Hush. The episode that gave me my first nightmare (seriously! And that was just the TV spot!)
Great one, that. One of the best for "horror" in the series.

Or The Buffy Musical could be ... ;) (depending on what you think of musicals in general. )
In my opinion, as Hush was definitely the best, with the gimmick of every person in Sunnydale being rendered mute, The Musical also was the best, with several key plot points deftly drawn out in song.
Amber Benson(Tara ) and Anthony Stewart Head ( Gile ) more than showed their vocal worth while James Marsters (Spike ) rocked it out as well.
Later I was watching some celeb homage to The Rocky Horror Picture Show( a sorta casual sing along ) when who should show up to sing a number or two but Amber and Anthony.
Girl does have a set of pipes on her.

Wayne Z
" ... Since I'm only dead to you I'm saying Stay Away and
Let me rest in peace. "
Rest in Peace, Buffy The Musical

[DubiousComforts]

Go watch the award winning episode 'hush', it might change your mind, its one of my favourite episodes in all 7 seasons.
(Yoda voice): Awards not make one great.

After 7 seasons of screwing around, the audience should expect at least several decent episodes. Even the best television series don't always receive that luxury, but then you're probably not old enough to remember Millennium and American Gothic.


Wait, who is classifying "Buffy" the series as Horror? :confused:

Just because a show has "horror"-like elements doesn't mean it's horror.

I always considered "Buffy" to be more of a drama series, and as a drama I thought it was sharp and often witty (especially the dialogue) but I've never mistaken it as being "horror" before.

Which horror films and tv programs aren't largely drama-based? Without a solid drama, what have you got, smart guy?

Of all people -- you, the guy that started this thread complaining about Twilight should realize that it's never about what the audience classifies as "horror." It's about what the Hollywood big-wigs classify as "horror."

In the 1970s, no major studio would finance a horror film until Alien struck gold. You can argue that Alien isn't "horror," either, but that won't change the fact it's responsible for spawning a ton of great horror films. Films made for adults.

Unfortunately, the studios now see bankable "horror" films as Twilight. Fodder made for the tween mentality. So where do you think that silly idea came from? Hello? Are we learning yet?

[LouCipherr]

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu271/Matox3/633839569142980630-Twilight1.jpg

[mista_mo]

With Wesley Snipes just standing behind them, staring awe at their unrequited love for each other? If you zoom in on his face, I bet that you can see a tear stream down his cheek.

[blind2d]

T-shirt: And then Buffy staked Edward. The end.
I love my nerdy friends.

[wayzim]

T-shirt: And then Buffy staked Edward. The end.
I love my nerdy friends.

Well, Hell.

She ran Angel through with a bloody big sword once ... and shoved him into a Hell dimension.
We know how that turned out, he got his own series.

Maybe Faith could stake Bella as well?

Wayne Z

[DubiousComforts]

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu271/Matox3/633839569142980630-Twilight1.jpg

You know, the character on the right could easily pass for a dude. Maybe Twilight has a lot more in common with Let the Right One In than previously thought.

[MikePizzoff]

I can't believe a thread about Twilight, on a message board dedicated to zombies, has received 98 replies...

:confused: ...make that 99.

[shootemindehead]

You know, the character on the right could easily pass for a dude.

So could the one in the middle.

[bassman]

So could the one in the middle.

Ba-zing!

As for the girl....I've always thought she was kinda cute. If she's a dude, that's one dude I would like to diddle.:p:lol:

http://www.twilightseries.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/kristen-stewart1.jpg

[BillyRay]

She looks a lot like my last ex...

[LouCipherr]

You know, the character on the right could easily pass for a dude. Maybe Twilight has a lot more in common with Let the Right One In than previously thought.

I think the dude in the middle could easily pass as a woman. :lol:

This movie is full of androgynous characters, isn't it? WTF?!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Ba-zing!

As for the girl....I've always thought she was kinda cute. If she's a dude, that's one dude I would like to diddle.:p:lol:

http://www.twilightseries.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/kristen-stewart1.jpg

You ain't the only one who wants to diddle Kristen Stewart :lol:

Lou knows all the details :sneaky:

[LouCipherr]

You ain't the only one who wants to diddle Kristen Stewart :lol:

Lou knows all the details :sneaky:



Don't even make me bring this up... you'll be sorry! :lol: :p :D