View Full Version : What's the average american opinion on Bill Hick's?
Danny
01-Aug-2010, 03:48 PM
So i was in nottingham yesterday and a bookstore was giving out freebooks, i grabbed a copy of 'bill hicks: love all the people' and its interesting that even in the foreword its mentioning how bill was bigger in england than the states, and attributes it to englands more widespread acceptability of anarchic statements as opposed to the american crowds isolationist patriotism.
I knew about the letterman thing but its still kind of surprising. I still see folks in england with shirts that have bills face and the phrase "true american fucking hero" on them, so is it different overthere?
I know theres fans on here form the u.s, but i mean in general is he popular? or kind of disliked?
AcesandEights
01-Aug-2010, 03:57 PM
I don't know about the 'average' American opinion, but I was and remain, long after his passing, a big fan of Bill Hicks. Incredibly funny, he also always had a message with his comedy and it never seemed contrived, but rather very genuine.
Honestly, in this day and age, I don't know how many Americans would know who Bill Hicks is, let alone approve of his opinions. Anecdotally, many of my acquaintances and friends do not know him by name.
JDFP
01-Aug-2010, 04:23 PM
Eh, I don't see the appeal. I've watched a couple of his skits and just generally sighed. Oh, you're making fun of people you disagree with! Hilarious!
He's a million times better than Sarah Silverman though. I'd rather stab my eyes out and have my ear drums squashed like peas than ever having to see or listen to her again.
j.p.
rongravy
01-Aug-2010, 06:52 PM
Great comedian. Tormented, the best kind.
Eyebiter
02-Aug-2010, 02:42 AM
Many Americans under 40 have never heard of Bill Hicks. If they have it's because of 'Relentless', or Dennis Leary copying his material.
Notice recently many of his older videos have appeared on Youtube.
rongravy
03-Aug-2010, 04:53 AM
Many Americans under 40 have never heard of Bill Hicks. If they have it's because of 'Relentless', or Dennis Leary copying his material.
Notice recently many of his older videos have appeared on Youtube.
I'm 37, too close to call. But I've known alot of kiddies online that would try to turn me onto Bill, to find out I was already tuned in.
Yeah, they were all South Park freaks, but still. Kids this day have alot of access to more than we think. I was telling my 14 year old kid to check out some good Bobcat Goldthwait after we watched Shakes the Clown together and she was like, "Too late, pops."
She really digs Louis CK. But she also likes a little Bill.
We also watch alot of those old comedy specials they show from wayyyy back on HBOComedy.
AcesandEights
03-Aug-2010, 03:11 PM
I was telling my 14 year old kid to check out some good Bobcat Goldthwait after we watched Shakes the Clown together...
Shakes the Clown is a classic! I have it in my Netflix queue, but wonder how it will stand up after not having seen it in 16 or so years.
bassman
03-Aug-2010, 03:15 PM
I'm no devoted fan but what little i've seen of his work, I found funny.
Whatever happened to that documentary on his career, anyway?
Mr.G
03-Aug-2010, 03:30 PM
Whatever happened to that documentary on his career, anyway?
Here you go: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179947/
It's also sitting in my netflix queue with an unknown release date.
BillyRay
03-Aug-2010, 03:52 PM
Hicks was a brilliant observer of the hypocracy that (still) exists in this country. Definitely on a level with Carlin or Bruce:
"I'm a Christian and I don't like what you said in your act about my religion."
(shrugs) "Then forgive me."
Sadly,, he's still considered obscure in the US. He had more success in the UK; maybe y'all appreciate dark humor more over there.
But then again, I'm into really obscure guys like Doug Kenney & Michael O'Donohue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Kenney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O'Donoghue
rongravy
03-Aug-2010, 10:35 PM
Shakes the Clown is a classic! I have it in my Netflix queue, but wonder how it will stand up after not having seen it in 16 or so years.
It's actually better to watch now that I can parallel some areas in my life.
:clown:
Uplifting...
Especially the parts with slutty looking Florence Henderson.
Danny
04-Aug-2010, 06:56 AM
Sadly,, he's still considered obscure in the US. He had more success in the UK; maybe y'all appreciate dark humor more over there.
Well when we have shows like jam....
DubiousComforts
05-Aug-2010, 10:22 AM
Hicks was a brilliant observer of the hypocracy that (still) exists in this country. Definitely on a level with Carlin or Bruce
Hicks' dark sardonic wit was unequaled except perhaps by George Carlin and even there you're comparing him to another artist that honed his craft over decades. The problem is one actually must possess a working brain to appreciate Hicks' humor which explains why mediocrity (sometimes better known as Will Farrell) is always preferred in the USA.
So much of Hicks stand-up commentary is even more relevant today than when it was written. Drugs, for example...
I quit smoking. It's very hard, but I'm glad I did. I'll tell you, this war against drugs in the US is the reason I quit because I got too fuckin' sick of being on the wrong side. The war against drugs, which actually is a war against civil rights, don't ever be fooled again. If they cared about us they'd get rid of the number one drug which is cigarettes; kills more people than crack, coke, and heroin combined, times 100. Legal.
Marijuana: a drug that kills...no one -- and let's put it in a time frame -- ever. Illegal.
That's what I hate about the war on drugs. All day long we see those commercials: "Here's your brain, here's your brain on drugs", "Just Say No", "Why do you think they call it dope?" … And then the next commercial is "This Bud's for yooouuuu." C'mon, everybody, let's be hypocritical bastards. It's okay to drink your drug. We meant those other drugs. Those untaxed drugs. Those are the ones that are bad for you.
Pot is a better drug than alcohol. Fact! … I'll prove it to you. If you're at a ball game or a concert and someone's really violent and aggressive and obnoxious, are they drunk or are they smoking pot?
I think it's interesting the two drugs that are legal, alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that do absolutely nothing for you at all; and the drugs that might open your mind up to realize how badly you're being fucked every day of your life? Those drugs are against the law. Coincidence?
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