Ratings hit!

[MinionZombie]

The finale figures are quite surprising to me.

6.86m

It looks like a level has been reached already. Well until the hype kicks in for season 2

Yeah, a smidge surprising ... but then again they're very solid numbers to be working from as a seemingly core base. I think AMC can be rather chuffed with that. The premiere was always going to be rather high for the curiosity factor, just like with Better Call Saul.

[MinionZombie]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/fear-the-walking-dead-delivers-highest-rated-first-season-in-cable-history


In its six-episode first season, the "Walking Dead" spinoff averaged 11.2 million total viewers, 7.3 million adults 18-49 and 7.2 million adults 25-54 in live viewing plus three days of DVR playback. The Oct. 4 season finale drew 10.1 million viewers, 6.5 million adults 18-49 and 6.6 million adults 25-54.

:cool::thumbsup::cool:

[kidgloves]

14.6m for the S6 premiere
Down from last year but still huge

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/13/walking-dead-ratings-season-6-premiere

[MinionZombie]

14.6m for the S6 premiere
Down from last year but still huge

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/13/walking-dead-ratings-season-6-premiere

It'll be interesting to see how the 'delayed viewing' figures compare to last year (i.e. are they bigger than last year, like the live viewing was smaller this year?)

I wonder if Fear The Walking Dead somewhat had an impact - i.e. we'd had six weeks worth of zombie apocalypse fun already by the time TWD S6 rocked up, whereas normally we'd have been starved of Kirkman's world for months by the time a season premiere arrives.

[kidgloves]

Another drop. Big one this time 12.2m

http://deadline.com/2015/10/walking-dead-ratings-week-2-season-6-patriots-colts-mets-cubs-nfl-mlb-1201588539/

[MinionZombie]

Another drop. Big one this time 12.2m

http://deadline.com/2015/10/walking-dead-ratings-week-2-season-6-patriots-colts-mets-cubs-nfl-mlb-1201588539/

Interesting. I suppose with viewing figures they're going to jump about quite a bit - particularly if there's a sporting event/series that's going on which is garnering a lot of interest. However, if the sports season isn't shaping up to much then people will go elsewhere (as has happened in the past with TWD winning out over sports). I also wonder if there's more folks watching it at later times on DVR, but again this too will shift a lot.

I still think that perhaps having FTWD smack bang ahead of TWD S6 perhaps sated the zombie appetite a smidge. It made sense to link them up for FTWD's sake, but perhaps it had a slight knock-on effect for TWD? I wonder if the mid-season premiere will be stronger after a full-on no-walkers drought.

[kidgloves]

Interesting. I suppose with viewing figures they're going to jump about quite a bit - particularly if there's a sporting event/series that's going on which is garnering a lot of interest. However, if the sports season isn't shaping up to much then people will go elsewhere (as has happened in the past with TWD winning out over sports). I also wonder if there's more folks watching it at later times on DVR, but again this too will shift a lot.

I still think that perhaps having FTWD smack bang ahead of TWD S6 perhaps sated the zombie appetite a smidge. It made sense to link them up for FTWD's sake, but perhaps it had a slight knock-on effect for TWD? I wonder if the mid-season premiere will be stronger after a full-on no-walkers drought.

I think your right. We're normally gagging for it :o by the time the premiere comes around.
I'm not sure how the advertisers are interpreting the results these days. The only numbers that have any meaning to me are the live audience and the 18 - 49 demo. I always fast forward recordings so i've always presumed everyone else does too. NO adverts get watched therefore no revenue

[MinionZombie]

I think your right. We're normally gagging for it :o by the time the premiere comes around.
I'm not sure how the advertisers are interpreting the results these days. The only numbers that have any meaning to me are the live audience and the 18 - 49 demo. I always fast forward recordings so i've always presumed everyone else does too. NO adverts get watched therefore no revenue

Perhaps, although the worth of advertising is open to debate anyway. I always fast forward through advert breaks - but even spinning by at 30x I can tell what's being sold (partly because the flippin' things have been on so sodding often - like that car advert that's never off the telly here, with the kid who gets a toy gorilla and has that song from the Jungle Book in it ... if anything I now despise that car being sold because the advert, which was initially cute, is now incredibly annoying). Even at speed I know what the items are - and I'm not interested in any of them ... and if I do catch sight of something that might be of interest, I do rewind and play (usually a movie trailer, an announcement of a DVD/BR release that's relevant to my interests, or more often it's actually a thing to let you know that a show on that channel is starting again, so not strictly an advert in the sense we're talking about here).

Television advertising is a very scattergun approach. You're getting a wide audience, potentiall, sure ... but the products you're boosting will not be of interest to a large amount of people, too. You can tweak things to the particular slot and programme, but even still...

[kidgloves]

Yay. Back up 13.14m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/10/27/sunday-cable-ratings-oct-25-2015/480422/

[kidgloves]

Another small rise 13.3m

http://deadline.com/2015/11/walking-dead-ratings-rise-steven-yeun-broncos-packers-nfl-world-series-royals-1201604778/

[kidgloves]

12.44m

http://deadline.com/2015/11/walking-dead-ratings-down-spoilers-steven-yeun-sunday-night-football-eagles-cowboys-1201617058/

[kidgloves]

12.9m

http://comicbook.com/2015/11/17/the-walking-dead-ratings-rise/

[Neil]

^ So seems to be levelling out a bit?

[kidgloves]

^ So seems to be levelling out a bit?

Yep. 13m seems to be the core live audience.
Still huge.

[MinionZombie]

Yep. 13m seems to be the core live audience.
Still huge.

What do you think is the core audience in total, including DVR/Time Shift Viewing?

[kidgloves]

Up again 13.22m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/11/24/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-22-2015/

DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS BELOW ON THAT LINK.

Some wanker thought it funny to post spoliers for the mid-season finale

[kidgloves]

Still very, very strong at 14m.

http://deadline.com/2015/12/the-walking-dead-ratings-midseason-finale-sunday-night-football-into-the-badlands-1201647608/

[kidgloves]

13.74m for ep9. Looks like its peaked.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/02/17/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-14-2016/

[kidgloves]

13.48m for ep10.
Holding steady

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/02/23/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-21-2016/

[MinionZombie]

13.48m for ep10.
Holding steady

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/02/23/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-21-2016/

And that's just the first showing, right? What does it tend to add up to with repeat viewings and DVR recordings?

[kidgloves]

And that's just the first showing, right? What does it tend to add up to with repeat viewings and DVR recordings?

It's up overall which is great news. Seems to be making a killing on streaming services as well.
I know more people who download it than watch it on tv. Seems to be a monster success on all platforms

[MinionZombie]

It's up overall which is great news. Seems to be making a killing on streaming services as well.
I know more people who download it than watch it on tv. Seems to be a monster success on all platforms

Good to know. :)

All a part of the changing way people consume their media - and glad that TWD is a hit on streaming as well as everything else. :cool:

[kidgloves]

12.79m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/01/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-28-2016/

[Neil]

12.79m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/01/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-28-2016/

So seems to be levelling out then at around 13m or so...

[MinionZombie]

So seems to be levelling out then at around 13m or so...

For the live viewing figures in the first air slot - which doesn't include later showings and time shift/other modes of viewing.

[kidgloves]

Good to know. :)

All a part of the changing way people consume their media - and glad that TWD is a hit on streaming as well as everything else. :cool:

Some numbers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/06/cable-live-3-ratings-feb-22-28-walking-dead-has-steady-growth/

[kidgloves]

12.8m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/08/sunday-cable-ratings-march-6-2016/

[kidgloves]

Slight drop
12.53m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/15/sunday-cable-ratings-march-13-2016/

[kidgloves]

Up slightly 12.69m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/22/sunday-cable-ratings-march-20-2016/

[kidgloves]

Season low but still great

12.38m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/29/sunday-cable-ratings-march-27-2016/

[MinionZombie]

Most shows would dream of such figures!

Predictions for next week's ratings? I'll go for ... ... 14.5m in the main live slot.

[kidgloves]

Most shows would dream of such figures!

Predictions for next week's ratings? I'll go for ... ... 14.5m in the main live slot.

I think your probably spot on there MZ.
I'm going to be more hopeful and go for 16m boosted by hype.

[MinionZombie]

I think your probably spot on there MZ.
I'm going to be more hopeful and go for 16m boosted by hype.

Oh yeah, that'd be great! I was surprised they hadn't announced it was going to be an extended episode sooner (they've announced such events weeks in advance beforehand, as opposed to just a week in advance on this occasion ... unless I missed an announcement earlier on). With it being the season finale, with a major player in the cliffhanger zone, and with the impending arrival of the new big bad I'd hope it brings an appropriate surge in viewers. :)

[kidgloves]

14.2m

http://deadline.com/2016/04/the-walking-dead-ratings-season-6-finale-down-amc-1201732195/

Still angry

[MinionZombie]

14.2m

http://deadline.com/2016/04/the-walking-dead-ratings-season-6-finale-down-amc-1201732195/

Ooh! I was damn close with my guess of 14.5m!

[facestabber]

Ratings for 07-01 and 07-02 will tell us a lot regarding fallout.

[MinionZombie]

Ratings for 07-01 and 07-02 will tell us a lot regarding fallout.

Hmmm ... I think most/all people will be tuning in to see who snuffs it. Now, if the secret gets leaked then that'll have more of an impact on the "I need to know who died!" crowd (which is any self-respecting TWD fan). :p

[facestabber]

Hmmm ... I think most/all people will be tuning in to see who snuffs it. Now, if the secret gets leaked then that'll have more of an impact on the "I need to know who died!" crowd (which is any self-respecting TWD fan). :p

It will be leaked before then. Now I have thought how the writers could deter spoiler. Lets say Abraham or Glenn is victim. The dead one obviously leaves set. The other gets written out of show for first 8 episodes as if they went on a run. Otherwise by 3rd week of filming, the deceased should be discovered. Or(thought just hit me) 07-2 and several more could be Morgan/Carol Kingdom stuff plus Negan episodes. At end of the day I still believe it will be spoiled

[MinionZombie]

http://movieweb.com/walking-dead-season-6-highest-rated-tv-show-2016/

18.4m for Live+3 ratings. :)

Seems there's been a little move for some viewers towards 'time shift' viewing of TWD.

[kidgloves]

6.7m for Fear

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/ratings-fear-the-walking-dead-premiere-1201750922/

[kidgloves]

Down to 5.58m for episode 2

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/04/19/sunday-cable-ratings-april-17-2016/

[MinionZombie]

Down to 5.58m for episode 2

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/04/19/sunday-cable-ratings-april-17-2016/

I was thinking it'd be 5-point-something million. Premieres always get the big numbers while the following episodes buck around all over the place, but the second episode always sees a drop. It'll be interesting to see how the figures play out over the course of the season. Will it regain to 6-something, or drop further down into 4-something? Might season 3 necessitate a budget cut if the figures get too low over the course of the season? Are we going to see an inverse of what happened with TWD's figures (which just kept going up)? :eek: Too early to tell, of course ... we'll see, eh? :shifty:

[kidgloves]

I was thinking it'd be 5-point-something million. Premieres always get the big numbers while the following episodes buck around all over the place, but the second episode aways sees a drop. It'll be interesting to see how the figures play out over the course of the season. Will it regain to 6-something, or drop further down into 4-something? Might season 3 necessitate a budget cut if the figures get too low over the course of the season? Are we going to see an inverse of what happened with TWD's figures (which just kept going up)? :eek: Too early to tell, of course ... we'll see, eh? :shifty:

I seem to remember that Breaking Bad and Mad Men were kept going at the early stages with figures of 1-2m so it would be interesting to know what AMC's cancellation threshold is. Obviously it depends on the cost to make but they do seem to back there shows

[MinionZombie]

I seem to remember that Breaking Bad and Mad Men were kept going at the early stages with figures of 1-2m so it would be interesting to know what AMC's cancellation threshold is. Obviously it depends on the cost to make but they do seem to back there shows

This is true, although I think Breaking Bad was on the edge at times. Critical love and Netflix really helped BB catch on. With Mad Men, well, at the time they had little in the way of content - and it was the show that changed what AMC was as a TV channel. Critical reception also goes a long way to help a quality drama on a channel such as AMC. Repeating the whole run is a good idea, too - even going into the final episodes of BB there were folks still catching up on the whole thing - and it really helped cement TWD as the crown jewel in AMC's lineup.

I think FTWD will be safe - but will it's budget remain uncut if the figures drop throughout the season? If so, how will that affect the episodes - especially with sixteen of them coming in season 3? Hmmm...

[kidgloves]

Uh oh 4.73m.
Losing viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/04/26/sunday-cable-ratings-april-24-2016/

[MinionZombie]

Uh oh 4.73m.
Losing viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/04/26/sunday-cable-ratings-april-24-2016/

Part of that could be down to Game of Thrones' return, but part of it could also very well be a slide in viewers generally. FTWD is still a long way away from cancellation ("Turn" is still on the air), but as I said in an earlier post, perhaps a budget cut might be more likely? Or an episode order cut? I'm not sure how the business side of that would shake out as more profitable ... it'll be fascinating to see what happens from here on.

[Moon Knight]

Part of that could be down to Game of Thrones' return, but part of it could also very well be a slide in viewers generally. FTWD is still a long way away from cancellation ("Turn" is still on the air), but as I said in an earlier post, perhaps a budget cut might be more likely? Or an episode order cut? I'm not sure how the business side of that would shake out as more profitable ... it'll be fascinating to see what happens from here on.

I told my friends as soon as the timing was announced, AMC was stupid for putting FTWD against the juggernaut GoT.

[kidgloves]

I told my friends as soon as the timing was announced, AMC was stupid for putting FTWD against the juggernaut GoT.

Yep. Going straight into Fear the week after THAT finale didn't really help either.

[Zombie Snack]

Yep. Going straight into Fear the week after THAT finale didn't really help either.

Agreed 100%

[Moon Knight]

Yep. Going straight into Fear the week after THAT finale didn't really help either.

Ugh that damn finale... what a mistake.

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Agreed 100%

Yep, so do I.

[kidgloves]

4.80m so levelling out.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/05/03/sunday-cable-ratings-may-1-2016/

[kidgloves]

4.51m for episode 5

4.49m for episode 6

[MinionZombie]

Finales, whether season or mid-season, tend to get a bump - so it'll be interesting to see how much of a bump FTWD gets. I'm not predicting much ... 5m at most? What say you?

I wonder how it's doing in the additional figures, the +3 stuff or whatever it's called.

[kidgloves]

4.4m for the finale.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/preacher-ratings-debut-ok-fear-the-walking-dead-midseason-finale-steady-amc-1201761826/

I must admit I'm finding the show a chore to watch which isn't a good sign.

[MinionZombie]

4.4m for the finale.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/preacher-ratings-debut-ok-fear-the-walking-dead-midseason-finale-steady-amc-1201761826/

I must admit I'm finding the show a chore to watch which isn't a good sign.

Interesting - 6.8m for last week's episode when Live+3 is counted.

I wonder if about 4.5m will be the core live audience for FTWD when it returns in a few months, or will it dip again?

But yeah, as I've said elsewhere, FTWD is just a show I watch. TWD on the other hand is a show I crave like a drug and obsess over.

[kidgloves]

Still waiting on the national premiere numbers but regional markets are reporting a 30% increase on season 6 finale

[facestabber]

Still waiting on the national premiere numbers but regional markets are reporting a 30% increase on season 6 finale

30% increase!!!!! That's insane. I want this show to succeed. I want AMC to pump more money into. Downside of this news is that the cliffhanger worked and then some.....lol.

[kidgloves]

17.29m

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/the-walking-dead-season-7-premiere-ratings-1201899174/

[MinionZombie]

17.29m

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/the-walking-dead-season-7-premiere-ratings-1201899174/

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c0/e6/35/c0e635451847186cee9608d7ecbde927.jpg

[kidgloves]

20.8m for +3 ratings

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/walking-dead-season-7-premiere-ratings-20-million-1201903195/

[kidgloves]

12.46m

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/tv-news-roundup-walking-dead-episode-2-ratings-1201906368/

[MinionZombie]

12.46m

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/tv-news-roundup-walking-dead-episode-2-ratings-1201906368/

As to the question of "why" the ratings are lower - erm, ratings dip and and blip all over the place all the time. The season 7 premiere was a huge event and had the whole "who Negan killed" question hanging over it - there was a big answer to be had with it, and even casual viewers or random lookie lous would tune in.

Maybe some people 'skipped a week' because "oh, the violence!", but frankly if there are people doing that then wtf show have they been watching up until now? And I can't fathom the idea of watching only some episodes of a show like TWD, or GoT, or any other finely plotted story. You miss an episode and you're lost. It's not like one of those CSI type shows, or some random sitcom, where everything's the same week-in week-out. Bizarre people, to my mind.

Anyway, that's my tuppence worth. :p

[kidgloves]

11.72m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-6-2016/

[kidgloves]

Some nice charts here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:The_Walking_Dead_ratings

- - - Updated - - -

11.40m

http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2016/11/15/the-walking-dead-ratings-drop-again-remain-on-top-for-sunday/

[kidgloves]

Some nice charts here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:The_Walking_Dead_ratings

- - - Updated - - -

11.40m

http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2016/11/15/the-walking-dead-ratings-drop-again-remain-on-top-for-sunday/

Just for the record, this is still doing 16/17m viewers after the +3 is counted. People are still watching just differently

- - - Updated - - -

Just under 11m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-20-2016/

[MinionZombie]

Just for the record, this is still doing 16/17m viewers after the +3 is counted. People are still watching just differently

- - - Updated - - -

Just under 11m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-20-2016/

Plus another 1.9 and 1.4 million in other showings that same night. So somewhere around 14m for the night ... plus whatever the rest of the +3 numbers will be.

Yeah, the first episode was appointment viewing for sure - people needed to know who died, so tuned in to watch it live. Then all shows wobble about in the middle portion before the finale (mid-season or otherwise) comes along, those tentpole episodes.

I do a lot of 'time shift' viewing, like most folks do - we watch things differently these days, like you say. :)

[Moon Knight]

I'll tell you what, all these bottle episodes aren't helping the ratings at all. There is a reason the preview for this Sunday was done the way it was.

I'm not worried about ratings at all but let's be real, the show peaked in season 5 and these bottle episodes aren't helping people watch right away. I really hope they cut back on them because it's gonna hurt the show long term.

[kidgloves]

10.4m a 4 year low

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-27-2016/

[Moon Knight]

10.4m a 4 year low

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-27-2016/

Definitely expected.

You can tell AMC is taking notice by how they are promoting 7x7.

[MinionZombie]

Definitely expected.

You can tell AMC is taking notice by how they are promoting 7x7.

Yeah - I saw a promo teasing 'underneath Carl's eye bandage' - so they've spotted that they need to juice the audience a little, pump a little mystery hype into the lead up to the episodes. Hopefully they don't overcorrect and begin dictating how to write the episodes/season as Gimple has done a wonderful job - but he and his team of writers could ease up on the 'bottle' episodes as others have said (7A has had too many, which has affected pacing), where you end up losing track of main characters for a handful of episodes at a time. That said - the pacing of episode 7x07 (multiple story threads, little time to dawdle but without losing out on the meat of a scene) was like a night and day difference from 7x06 (following a single character, not an awful lot going on for most of it, sowing seeds for future story when we've already had a lot of new introductions etc in prior episodes). And 7x07 was longer than 7x06, yet felt shorter.

[Moon Knight]

Yeah - I saw a promo teasing 'underneath Carl's eye bandage' - so they've spotted that they need to juice the audience a little, pump a little mystery hype into the lead up to the episodes. Hopefully they don't overcorrect and begin dictating how to write the episodes/season as Gimple has done a wonderful job - but he and his team of writers could ease up on the 'bottle' episodes as others have said (7A has had too many, which has affected pacing), where you end up losing track of main characters for a handful of episodes at a time. That said - the pacing of episode 7x07 (multiple story threads, little time to dawdle but without losing out on the meat of a scene) was like a night and day difference from 7x06 (following a single character, not an awful lot going on for most of it, sowing seeds for future story when we've already had a lot of new introductions etc in prior episodes). And 7x07 was longer than 7x06, yet felt shorter.

Not just that, but I saw a post saying "Rick, Michonne, Carl, and more return for an all new episode of The Walking Dead!". I've been following this show from the beginning and that's the first time I have ever seen them promoting an episode like that. I hope they learned a lesson and will no longer write a bottle episode like they did for 7x6, that shit wasn't necessary.

[kidgloves]

Slightly up 10.48m

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/westworld-ends-with-season-highs-walking-dead-stops-5-week-slide/amp/

[kidgloves]

10.58m so it looks like the core audience is around 10-10.5m. Unbelievable numbers in this day and age.

http://deadline.com/2016/12/the-walking-dead-ratings-season-7-midseason-finale-sunday-night-football-giants-cowboys-amc-1201869245/

The +3 numbers are still very, very strong so I think the fluctuations are more representative of people's changing viewing habits rather than people tuning out as a lot of Internet articles gleefully like to have in their headlines.

[MinionZombie]

The +3 numbers are still very, very strong so I think the fluctuations are more representative of people's changing viewing habits rather than people tuning out as a lot of Internet articles gleefully like to have in their headlines.

Ugh, the ruddy clickbait article titles I've seen related to TWD's figures of late. :rolleyes: Very selective use of figures (just focusing on the main showing on the one night - they don't even add in the figures from the two other showings that same night, and don't mention a peep of the +3's, as you say). I despise this "clickbait" culture that we've seen develop in recent years. Lots of bullshit excuses for 'online journalism' with very little content and even less in the way of critical thinking - just a load of poorly considered gubbins that's only after a click.

At least that one you linked to discusses the detail a bit more, e.g.
As an example, the December 4 “Sing Me A Song” episode went up 42% in L+3 viewership to 15 million viewers from its L+SD results, which was actually a 5% bop up from the delayed viewing results of the week before. In the key demo, where TWD casts a long shadow, that penultimate episode of 2016 went up 47% in L+3 to 9.4 million viewers. That was pretty steady with the “Swear” episode L+3 demo rating, lifting 6%.

[Moon Knight]

We coming back, baby!

I despise click bait articles too.

[kidgloves]

12m so up on 10.58m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-12-2017/

[kidgloves]

11.08m so holding up well

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-feb-19-2017/

[kidgloves]

10.42m

http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2017/02/28/walking-dead-ratings-drop-sunday/

[kidgloves]

10.16m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-march-5-2017/

[kidgloves]

10.68m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-march-12-2017/

[MinionZombie]

10.68m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-march-12-2017/

Funny, really. You tend to get a slight up tick the week after an awesome episode. :rolleyes:

[kidgloves]

10.32m

http://hiddenremote.com/2017/03/21/walking-dead-ratings-back-square-one/

[kidgloves]

10.54m. So steady

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-march-20-26-2017/

[MinionZombie]

I don't understand AMC's mentality in splitting Walking/Talking dead down the middle and shoving Into The Badlands between them. Just seems utterly daft and a poke in the eye for TWD fans' Sunday night telly ritual.

[JDP]

I don't understand AMC's mentality in splitting Walking/Talking dead down the middle and shoving Into The Badlands between them. Just seems utterly daft and a poke in the eye for TWD fans' Sunday night telly ritual.

They did the exact same thing when that show was brand new. Why are they still doing it? Into The Badlands doesn't need more of this type of forceful "down your throat whether you like it or not" promotion.

[MinionZombie]

They did the exact same thing when that show was brand new. Why are they still doing it? Into The Badlands doesn't need more of this type of forceful "down your throat whether you like it or not" promotion.

Aye, I remember the flack it got as a result of the way AMC was pushing it on the audience - which made their decision to do it all over again even more asinine. :stunned:

[kidgloves]

11.3m. Lowest for a finale since season2

http://deadline.com/2017/04/the-walking-dead-ratings-finale-down-sonequa-martin-green-amc-1202060376/

[kidgloves]

11.4m
Lowest since season 3.
Its definitely peaked.
Still great though.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-walking-dead-hits-5-year-premiere-low-1051102

[MinionZombie]

11.4m
Lowest since season 3.
Its definitely peaked.
Still great though.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-walking-dead-hits-5-year-premiere-low-1051102

Aye, especially with +3 and +7 numbers included. Seems that there are some viewers who are shifting towards time-shift viewing of TWD. There is a hell of a lot of competition out there, and Season 5 was the peak. I'm sure this is the sort of thing that happens to most shows. They'll inevitably peak somewhere along the line, and ratings tend to slip further into the run up to the final episode.

However, "slip" is relative, and these figures remain mighty. Fear The Walking Dead is heading into it's fourth season bumbling about the 2m/2.5m zone for live ratings, despite showing a consistent slide downwards since the first season (it bottomed out at 1.9m in Season 3B IIRC before ticking up a few hundred thousand by the closer).

[kidgloves]

Uh oh. 8.92m

http://deadline.com/2017/10/the-walking-dead-ratings-fall-five-year-low-world-series-nfl-amc-1202198685/

[MinionZombie]

Uh oh. 8.92m

http://deadline.com/2017/10/the-walking-dead-ratings-fall-five-year-low-world-series-nfl-amc-1202198685/

Up against some major sporting events, mind.

Reading some of the comments on there you just have to shake your head. Yeah, sure, introduce a major villain and just kill him off a couple of episodes later ... 'cos that's how dramatic storytelling works. :rolleyes:

Next week's will be interesting to see, and I am wary of articles on this subject because it becomes "the narrative", it becomes something for the media to beat up on a popular franchise with. The Batman v Superman/Suicide Squad/Wonder Woman trajectory in the media coverage was blatantly plotted/orchestrated for clickbait ... but that's another rant entirely. :D

[kidgloves]

8.5m

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/walking-dead-season-8-episode-3-1202609448/

[kidgloves]

Up slightly 8.69m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-12-2017/

[MinionZombie]

Up slightly 8.69m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-nov-12-2017/

Skimming through some comments there, this one was quite interesting:

JOhn A es • 9 hours ago

Ratings are #1 and you think its gonna get cancelled? Don't make me laugh.
And don't forget DVR +3, +7 and App views are the highest it's ever been. More people are choosing to watch it later which I don't blame them with the way they have been structuring the commericals with the show lately.

I 'time shift' regularly because of the irritant that is advertising, and here in the UK we have a legal maximum of ads per hour (basically no more than 15 mins per hour). However, at least our ad slots aren't as numerous, either, as they are in America (where, I believe, they have shorter breaks but more regular breaks), which can really screw up the momentum if you're always cutting away to an ad break. I recognise that it's a double-edged sword - because the ads help pay for the show - but AMC, it would seem like, need to change up their approach to commercials to make them less intrusive.

Off on a tangent, but look at Impractical Jokers - in America it gets three advert breaks inside a half hour slot. Here in the UK? One. I'm not sure how many breaks crop up in TWD over there, but here in the UK it's three over the course of an hour slot roughly every fifteen minutes.

One of the most consistent, recurring complaints I've seen connected with TWD here on HPOTD is regarding the sheer volume of commercials. I reckon some restructuring of how they do ad breaks could shake things up a bit.

Anyway, good to see a little up-tick in the ratings (which are still far ahead of the competition).

[kidgloves]

Down again 7.9m. Lowest since season 2.

http://deadline.com/2017/11/walking-dead-ratings-hit-low-six-years-andrew-lincoln-norman-reedus-amc-1202213137/

[MinionZombie]

Down again 7.9m. Lowest since season 2.

http://deadline.com/2017/11/walking-dead-ratings-hit-low-six-years-andrew-lincoln-norman-reedus-amc-1202213137/

Bummer.

Various things going on - sporting and awards events - plus:

On the Live + 3 metric, TWD has seen lifts of around 40% over the first four episodes of this season, a fact that keeps AMC smiling

So there's more time shift viewing going on. This is something that gets reported more these days and is also something that gets more attention from the channels. Twin Peaks S3 and The Deuce both did well in their live ratings, but they also had very healthy 'time shift' figures that really bolstered their numbers - just two examples I'd heard of recently, and I'd imagine there's others.

Although we've also seen many instances where some of the best episodes get 'viewer dips', while the episode that follows sometimes sees a rise because the previous one was so good. Go figure.

[kidgloves]

The time shift thing makes sense. I haven't had time to watch Sunday/Mondays episode myself yet.

[MinionZombie]

The time shift thing makes sense. I haven't had time to watch Sunday/Mondays episode myself yet.

It's probably going to be a more common thing, especially for shows that are 'growing old' into their later seasons once the peak has come and gone. People are still watching, but fewer might watch when it's airing.

I jumble my viewing around all over the place. Sometimes I'll watch live, sometimes I'll time shift, sometimes I'll record and save for later. It kind of depends on the length of various shows/movies/recordings and how much time I've got between things (e.g. it's always nice to have something of 30-60 minutes to slip in somewhere).

Plus: binge-viewing culture. Some of our members here record 8 or 16 episodes of TWD and wait to blast all/half a season in a condensed period of time. Meanwhile I watch it within 24 hours of airing and then buy the box set somewhere around December to binge re-watch it in January.

[kidgloves]

8.3m

http://deadline.com/2017/11/talking-dead-ratings-lennie-james-the-walking-dead-crossover-news-1202215739/

[kidgloves]

Down again. 7.47m

http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2017/12/05/the-walking-dead-ratings-episode-807-low-/

[kidgloves]

7.9m

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-walking-dead-midseason-finale-slips-low-1066717

[MinionZombie]

7.9m

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-walking-dead-midseason-finale-slips-low-1066717


Time-shifting has been giving The Walking Dead bigger boosts in recent seasons, as many lingering fans have opted to watch on their own schedule. The most recent episode, for example, saw its audience jump 45 percent in just three days — climbing to 10.7 million viewers.

So an extra 3.3m roughly for last week's episode once the +3 ratings were included. So it's quite clear that some people are time shifting. I imagine that'll be down to numerous factors - the show has, objectively, passed its peak like all shows of a certain age, it's seen as less 'appointment viewing' by some people, and I'd also wager that the deployment of commercials during the live airing puts off a percentage of the audience as well. Plus there are certain issues that need addressing (some viewers then just ditch the show entirely, but probably weren't as invested as all that if they can drop it so quickly, and others might react disproportionately harshly, and others have just grown tired).

Arguably, two more seasons to cap everything off with a clear end game in mind (plus correcting certain mistakes/problems) would be a wise move.

[MinionZombie]

Some more ratings info here, including DVR figures:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(season_8)#Ratings

DVR figures regularly over 4 million, so 11 to 13 million (live + DVR) per episode.

[kidgloves]

8.3m

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/walking-dead-season-8-midseason-premiere-ratings-1202710655/

[kidgloves]

If anyone wants to take over please do. I haven't comeback and I've been away on holiday/vacation so not watching any tv.

[MinionZombie]

If anyone wants to take over please do. I haven't comeback and I've been away on holiday/vacation so not watching any tv.

The basic live-viewing figures for 8x10 and 8x11 were 6.8m and 6.6m respectively. However, add in Live+3 DVR viewers for 8x10 and the figure is 9.8m viewers in America.

[MinionZombie]

Let's catch up on some basic live airing figures from Wiki...

8x12 = 6.66m
8x13 = 6.77m
8x14 = 6.3m
8x15 = 6.67m
8x16 = 7.92m

And for point of reference 8.28m was, naturally, the highest live figure this half-season (8b) for 8x09.

7.82m was the average live figure for the entire Season 8.

[bassman]

It should probably come as no surprise, but the show has now hit it’s lowest viewing numbers ever, with the latest episode having only 4.5 million views. This of course doesn’t directly represent the quality of the new episodes, which I haven’t seen since Rick’s departure, but it’s probably a sign that the powers that be will be trying to shake up the show’s formula even more in an attempt to revive it.

https://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/news/the-walking-dead-just-scored-its-lowest-ratings-ever

[shootemindehead]

Yeh, no surprises there whatsoever.

Honestly can't see many more seasons out of this to be honest.

[JDP]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that eliminating Rick from the show, even if you are planning on continuing his story elsewhere, would have an impact on the show's viewership. Viewers tend to think of TWD basically as "Rick's story". Removing him from the show was a big mistake.

[ProfessorChaos]

"ratings hit" rock bottom, amirite?!?!

geez, i can't believe this show is still running. there's probably like two whole seasons' worth of filler and pointless episodes by this point.

[MinionZombie]

Who spilled haterade all over the HPOTD carpet? :sneaky:

Of course these figures are only for the 9pm showing. These don't include the repeat later that same night nor the time shift viewings.

Yes, the viewing figures have fallen overall, but they've also been fairly steady throughout this season. Naturally, the premiere gets the biggest number, but all the headline figures (i.e. just that 9pm showing) have been in the 4.5m to 6m range.

Besides, lots of shows would kill for these ratings in this day and age. Yes, the show does need to work towards a resolution as it's really not practical to keep it going for a daft number of seasons (even the comic is being dragged out too long, but it's far easier to run something for years-and-years when its just drawings on a piece of paper). However, Angela Kang has really improved TWD. If only she'd taken over two seasons earlier.

[Moon Knight]

Who spilled haterade all over the HPOTD carpet? :sneaky:

Of course these figures are only for the 9pm showing. These don't include the repeat later that same night nor the time shift viewings.

Yes, the viewing figures have fallen overall, but they've also been fairly steady throughout this season. Naturally, the premiere gets the biggest number, but all the headline figures (i.e. just that 9pm showing) have been in the 4.5m to 6m range.

Besides, lots of shows would kill for these ratings in this day and age. Yes, the show does need to work towards a resolution as it's really not practical to keep it going for a daft number of seasons (even the comic is being dragged out too long, but it's far easier to run something for years-and-years when its just drawings on a piece of paper). However, Angela Kang has really improved TWD. If only she'd taken over two seasons earlier.

It’s TWD, MZ, everyone’s favorite punching bag.

[bassman]

I personally wasn’t hating on it. Just reporting the facts, and even admitted that I haven’t seen the new episodes yet. If we report the good, we gotsta report the bad, as well! :p

And really...4.5m isn’t a bad number. It may seem that way because the show once had such huge numbers by comparison, but for most programs....4.5 is still good.

[MinionZombie]

I personally wasn’t hating on it. Just reporting the facts, and even admitted that I haven’t seen the new episodes yet. If we report the good, we gotsta report the bad, as well! :p

And really...4.5m isn’t a bad number. It may seem that way because the show once had such huge numbers by comparison, but for most programs....4.5 is still good.

Aye, you were being fair with it, so I wasn't ragging on that.

It is funny, but entirely predictable, how the media has talked about TWD's ratings for all these years, and they especially love it when the figures drop. Meanwhile there's shows out there desperate for the same numbers!

[Moon Knight]

Aye, you were being fair with it, so I wasn't ragging on that.

It is funny, but entirely predictable, how the media has talked about TWD's ratings for all these years, and they especially love it when the figures drop. Meanwhile there's shows out there desperate for the same numbers!

Pretty much.

[bassman]

I found this interesting, but didn’t feel it needed it’s own thread...

On another forum someone shared a conversation that Chandler Riggs(Carl) had participated in on TWD’s reddit page. After a member said that Riggs’ acting wasn’t the best and the character should have been recast, the actor gave a brutally honest answer, saying that his heart wasn’t really in the series for a majority of his time playing Carl.

Riggs:

Been rewatching TWD over the last couple of months and I agree lol. I think I was decent for the first few years, but I definitely got lazy when I should've utilized the writers giving me more material.

However, for seasons 4-7 (and some of 8) I was putting the majority of my effort into school. Not trying to toot my own horn here but I took like 10 ap classes throughout high school (for some dumbass reason, I guess I just wanted to hate myself even more) and put a lot more effort into my education than into my craft. This is super evident as I'm watching my earlier lackluster performances.

But in season 8, specifically in my last few episodes, is where I feel like I had my most impactful work. I wasn't focused on school since I had decided to move out to LA, and I wanted to leave a strong legacy for Carl on the show. Plus going forward, I wanted to spend way more time expanding my abilities as an actor, and make sure I live up to the standard that I set for myself - and so far, I have.

These last few months have been extremely productive for my craft, and I feel my performances have become so much more powerful and include an amazing amount of depth. I'm super proud of them and really can't wait to show you guys.

In hindsight and in the best interest of the show, I do feel like if I didn't get killed off, things would not have gotten better on my end and TWD might've been better off recasting Carl. Don't get me wrong I loved everything about playing Carl and it would've been really awesome to play out all of those storylines, but I would have been juggling college and the show, and my performances would suffer because of it as shown when I was in high school.

Wow...this got super long winded sorry lol but TLDR: yeah, I sucked when it mattered but I'm a good actor now I promise please someone hire me lol.

Surprising to see an actor be that real and honest. And truthfully, it’s a good thing that he was focusing as much on his education...

[MinionZombie]

Yeah, that's not the usual PR-spin stuff you tend to get. At least it was a good reason for not focusing as much on the acting side - i.e. education - rather than the usual trappings and cliches of child star troubles.

Still, though, I really don't think he was that bad at all!

[Moon Knight]

He knows he doesn’t really have a future in film. Music seems more his passion.

[shootemindehead]

I found this interesting, but didn’t feel it needed it’s own thread...

On another forum someone shared a conversation that Chandler Riggs(Carl) had participated in on TWD’s reddit page. After a member said that Riggs’ acting wasn’t the best and the character should have been recast, the actor gave a brutally honest answer, saying that his heart wasn’t really in the series for a majority of his time playing Carl.

Surprising to see an actor be that real and honest. And truthfully, it’s a good thing that he was focusing as much on his education...

That's a classy answer from young Mr.Riggs.

Never thought he was that bad myself. Certainly not to warrant a recast, which is my pet hate for TV and Cinema.

[MinionZombie]

That's a classy answer from young Mr.Riggs.

Never thought he was that bad myself. Certainly not to warrant a recast, which is my pet hate for TV and Cinema.

Yeah, it kinda breaks the bubble of illusion, doesn't it? Such things also spill over real world bullshit into the fictional world, which you don't want. Despite all the backroom chaos and lawsuits encircling TWD and AMC, stuff we've all been very much aware of, it mostly doesn't spill over into the show, no doubt helped by the general atmosphere of "#TWDfamily", so you get good crafts people and actors doing great work and offering up something special to the audience.

[MinionZombie]

So over the course of the season we've seen a solid core of 4 to 5 million LIVE viewers.

Add in the DVR viewership though and the figures rise to a consistent solid of 7 to 8 million viewers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(season_9)#Ratings

[Moon Knight]

Yet all the clickbait sites constantly run articles on how TWD keeps drawing in record low numbers. Shows would kill to draw in 2-3 million let alone 4-5.

[MinionZombie]

Yet all the clickbait sites constantly run articles on how TWD keeps drawing in record low numbers. Shows would kill to draw in 2-3 million let alone 4-5.

Aye, and that's just the live airing, too. The online cancer of clickbait loves to crap on good things, it's like those people who continually show up in comment feeds bemoaning the show that they've "not watched since season six" or whatever ... eh?! Why always chipping in on the comment feeds, then? Weird people.

Don't know what the cumulative international numbers are for it, but I'd imagine they're rather healthy.