"Sucker Punch" - Is it really this bad!?

[Neil]

The reviews seem to be butchering it!

http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Sucker-Punch-5162.html

[MinionZombie]

The reviews seem to be butchering it!

http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Sucker-Punch-5162.html

Well that's the second dud review I've seen for this flick today ... the likelihood of me seeing this in the cinemas is plunging rapidly, and I was only moderately interested in the first place.

The trailer, to me, simply said "a bunch of cool looking shit going on" ... and by the sounds of it, it's just that, albeit the "cool stuff" becomes "uncool" because it's not in a trailer, and because there's sod all connection to the material apparently. I was always sceptical about this have anything in it to make you care ... and it seems to be becoming clear that this is the case with this flick, which seems to be more about getting a bunch of boner-fied teenage boys into the cinemas and nothing more.

In the IGN review they also mentioned the use of music being far too literal and blunt, which was a concern I had with Watchmen - now, Watchmen I rather dug, particularly in the longer cut, but at times the music did feel a bit too 'on the nose' ... so apparently with Sucker Punch that goes into hyperdrive, oh dear.

I'm not surprised it seems to be getting more and more dud reviews, because the trailer didn't have anything in it to make me connect to the material at all, and up until now Snyder has been trading on the work of other people. The MTV-styled remake of Dawn was a poor, music-video-like immitation of a far superior product ... 300 was taking someone else's content, and indeed visuals, and just making them move ... the same with Watchmen. Indeed the reason why I rather like Watchmen has fuck all to do with Snyder, it's all to do with the source material being so strong in the first place, so all the hard work and heavy lifting has been done already.

Take away someone else's already established and applauded source material, and what do you get? A bunch of flashy visuals in slow motion - and who gives a fart about that if you're not invested in it?

I'm starting to think I'll wait until it shows on Sky Movies to see it, or borrow it from a friend ... I'm increasingly not keen on dropping £6.30 on this.

[Neil]

300 and Watchmen I thought were great, so maybe he needs good source material/script/storylines to feed off of! So maybe writing really isn't his bag!

[bassman]

I just pray that Chris Nolan and David Goyer's Superman script are enough to keep Snyder in check. I will shed a tear if Superman turns out to be an empty shell with nothing but nice visuals....

As for Sucker Punch - like MZ, I'll wait and borrow the Blu Ray from a friend or watch it on tv.

[blind2d]

Like the last Superman movie, bass? Oh, burn! I mean, um... something equivalent, but not mindless...

Might see the film, who knows? Can't be worse than Dawn, right? Or... um... Dawn me no like...

[bassman]

Like the last Superman movie, bass? Oh, burn! I mean, um... something equivalent, but not mindless...


Actually.....Superman Returns is a fantastic film. I love it. It's a shame they wouldn't let Singer continue with his trilogy.

[ProfessorChaos]

I will shed a tear if Superman turns out to be an empty shell with nothing but nice visuals.....

dude, it's snyder....you'd better bring a box of kleenex to the theater. (and no, dirty minded individuals, that's not what i was getting at...)

[blind2d]

Well, I've only seen it once, bass, so... yeah, maybe I should give it another shot... My instinctual dislike for the character should not blind me to possible goodness. That is the way of... fools...
Also, thanks for quoting me, Prof. It really helps me get through the hard times... cafe.

[Doc]

Actually.....Superman Returns is a fantastic film. I love it. It's a shame they wouldn't let Singer continue with his trilogy.

Thank God! Superman Returns wasn't terrible, but it wasn't 'fantastic' either. Well maybe, compared to Superman 4.....

It was almost a remake of the first film in a way....

And no pyschically threat against Superman from the comics again!

As, for this film. Meh. Not interested in the slightest.

Teehee, there's people comparing to Inception, now!

[bassman]

dude, it's snyder....you'd better bring a box of kleenex to the theater. (and no, dirty minded individuals, that's not what i was getting at...)

If it was just Snyder, sure. There would basically be no hope. But as I mentioned, hopefully Nolan's involvement will bring it to another level. Nolan's script will give it the story it needs, while Snyder's visuals will give it the action that people want to see. That's what I'm hoping for, anyway.


Thank God! Superman Returns wasn't terrible, but it wasn't 'fantastic' either. Well maybe, compared to Superman 4.....

It was almost a remake of the first film in a way....

And no pyschically threat against Superman from the comics again!

Returns is usually 50/50. About half of the fanbase likes it, while the other half hates it. Mostly because of the reasons you mentioned.

And while not technically a remake, it was intended to be similar to Donner's film. That's why it's called Superman Returns. Both in the story and in popular culture, Superman had been away and he was returning to the big screen. The part that Singer failed at was thinking a story could hold todays audience's attention without nonstop explosions and cgi. Returns was a like a bridge between Donner's film(s) and his own, with his sequel(Man of Steel) set to be the real action packed middle act that people were looking for. Sadly he never got to make that action packed sequel...

[Doc]

I heard about the sequel.....apparently it was gonna use the villain Zod.....

So, I guess he was trying to remake Superman 2 as well! :p


Don't get me wrong. "Returns" wasn't a abomination, but I can see why alot were disappointed by it. It was hardly worth the wait. I had absolutely no high expectations either since, I never saw the original films in as child (yeah blasphemy I know:D), but I still knew just by watching it that it was a sub par product.


Having said that.....It's still better than Superman 4. Maybe, Superman 3 too, but I actually like that one for a few reasons. Superman 1 and 2 are still the best, and the way Superman movies should be. Well, last time I saw them anyway.

[BillyRay]

I09's review:

"Sucker Punch goes beyond awful, to become commentary on the death of moviemaking."


http://io9.com/#!5785590/sucker-punch-goes-beyond-awful-to-become-commentary-on-the-death-of-moviemaking

Yikes.

However, this almost guarantees that I'll rent it...

[rongravy]

I agree with him except Returns/Routh not being an abomination.
Somebody get in there and do it right.

I also wouldn't mind seeing Zod and the gang somewhere down the road.
And somebody at least make Superman not land, or take off, like a fairy.
Geeeeez. Don't we have better FX and CG for that now?

[bassman]

And somebody at least make Superman not land, or take off, like a fairy.
Geeeeez. Don't we have better FX and CG for that now?

http://api.ning.com/files/KkUpTJU8yBcYnmBGY-23apmZ55gGfaLmlbRb7trWABg_/superman_175_s_man_returns_hard_landing.gif

That's a pretty fast and hard-hitting fairy. :p

[ProfessorChaos]

That's a pretty fast and hard-hitting fairy. :p

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j264/autonomist/mrslave.gif

that's what he said....followed shortly by "jesuth christ!"

and in my humble opinion, sucker puke looks fucking stupid....no thanks.

funny how these days many movies are trying to be like video games, while many video games are trying to be like movies....

[rongravy]

Unfortunately, I emptied my memory banks of most of it, but I do remember some landings that were a bit daintier. And unfortunately, I don't have any cool gifs to back it up, dang it.
I'm not watching it again anytime soon, either. I've still got Top Gun on mental queue, that is, when I eventually turn in She's Out of Your League back to Netflix, which I've had since November...
Yeah, that movie was doomed to me from the start. Dooooomed.
Need darker toned Supe, Spawnstyle, though I know it'll never happen for the kiddies' revenue.
Or a borderline PG-13 that was finagled down from an R. They could release both versions, then 2 dvds. Boom.



Also, I already bought my tickets for a movie tonight. I almost broke down and got Sucker Punch, but decided to see Paul instead.
Sucker Punch just looks like I'd need more than a weed buzz to enjoy.
Maybe if it's around during a weekday, and I'm out of all other options.

[paranoid101]

Interesting review here from MovieBob on The Escapist.

He likes it but does say its one of them films you either love it or hate, bit like Marmite.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/2962-Sucker-Punch

[DjfunkmasterG]

I personally have no interest in Sucker Punch... was disappointed in Watchmen because of the porn sex half way through the film that was totally un-necessary. 300, while the battles were great, too much slo-mo, like Watchmen. So far Snyder has been 1-3-0 with me, if and when I see Sucker Punch it could be the terrible slot to fill in the zero. I also have not cared for the Owl movie either. Visually stunning it was, but that is about where it ended. The owl movie is great for showing off your home theater though... only reason it has ended up in total suckville.

[Danny]

ive actually seen reviews heralding it as 'the signifier of the final end to the decline of cinema as an art form", ouch.

[AcesandEights]

ive actually seen reviews heralding it as 'the signifier of the final end to the decline of cinema as an art form", ouch.

Wait a second, are you saying all the times I had to click through people on here moaning about Zack Snyder being the end of cinema...they were...actually right?

http://www.takeyourskirtofftombrady.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ScannersExplodingHead.gif

[Doc]

So, no ones seen this to see how 'bad' it really is?

[AcesandEights]

So, no ones seen this to see how 'bad' it really is?

Not me. I almost went to see it this weekend with a couple of friends who really want to check it out, but we couldn't sync up the schedules.

[MikePizzoff]

funny how these days many movies are trying to be like video games, while many video games are trying to be like movies....

Art imitates..... art. :shifty:

[blind2d]

Weed! I don't smoke, I swear.
Anyway, what? Oh, movie. Scanners is probably much better. Snyder sucks. Um... Vicious Lips is probably better than SuckerPunch... Yeah, that's it.

[MinionZombie]

It's not out in the UK until April 1st (fitting, perhaps? :p) ... but with a number of reviews utterly slating it, I don't think I'll bother dropping £6.30 on it (and that's matinee price).

[DjfunkmasterG]

Wait a second, are you saying all the times I had to click through people on here moaning about Zack Snyder being the end of cinema...they were...actually right?

http://www.takeyourskirtofftombrady.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ScannersExplodingHead.gif

The same was said about Kevin Smith in his early days, and guess what... Cinema survived

[Mitchified]

The same was said about Kevin Smith in his early days, and guess what... Cinema survived

Not only that, but the lecture circuit benefited hugely.

To confirm, yes, Sucker Punch was terrible. Character development apparently got lost on the cutting room floor. The visuals were impressive but not anything really all that new that hasn't been seen before. Just awful.

God help Superman. I know that Snyder isn't writing the script for it, but if he directs it in a similar fashion to Sucker Punch...ugh.

[bassman]

Character development apparently got lost on the cutting room floor. The visuals were impressive but not anything really all that new that hasn't been seen before.

You've just described every Snyder film to date. :p




God help Superman. I know that Snyder isn't writing the script for it, but if he directs it in a similar fashion to Sucker Punch...ugh.

Watchmen turned out pretty good with other writers, so hopefully the awesome team of Nolan and Goyer will one up it from there.

[MoonSylver]

Is "Sucker Punch" really that bad? I haven't seen it myself, but audience & critical reactions seem remarkably consistant...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/3498167513_a1860f84f0_o.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bLYWcKr_iJI/S2Me6dtjV9I/AAAAAAAABR8/KVP3Ib5XYf8/s320/Fleeing+.jpg

http://www.newprophecy.net/People_fleeing_nuclear_destruction_of_city.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldy1lb1Mgs1qfhtheo1_500.jpg

http://www.sneakerfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sneaker-shoe-store-looted-los-angeles-lakers.jpg

http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/man_fire.jpg

http://www.anachronismus.com/images/deutscheliterature/seppuku.jpg

:lol:

[MinionZombie]

*high five*

Good old Moon. :cool:

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Apparently Snyder cut "at least 18 minutes" of stuff from the flick to make it a PG-13 (saw this on the Melon Farmer's website) ... methinks not an awful lot of that was character development. :sneaky:

[DjfunkmasterG]

*high five*

Good old Moon. :cool:

---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 AM ----------

Apparently Snyder cut "at least 18 minutes" of stuff from the flick to make it a PG-13 (saw this on the Melon Farmer's website) ... methinks not an awful lot of that was character development. :sneaky:

I bet it was a 3 way between the 3 female leads and Scott Glenn.

[SymphonicX]

I just cut a 9 minute feature on this for Sky Movies.

Wouldn't mind a pop at the Hudge though...

[MinionZombie]

I just cut a 9 minute feature on this for Sky Movies.

Wouldn't mind a pop at the Hudge though...

I'll have to keep an eye out for this featurette thingymajig, then. :)

[SymphonicX]

Part of the show called 35mm on Sky Movies, Sky Living, Sky 2 or whatever that's called now!!!! hehe

It's just a movies magazine show but I enjoy it :)

[AcesandEights]

I'm actually really intrigued based on these reviews, now. Weird, huh?

[MoonSylver]

Apparently Snyder cut "at least 18 minutes" of stuff from the flick to make it a PG-13 (saw this on the Melon Farmer's website) ... methinks not an awful lot of that was character development. :sneaky:

It was a recitation of Hamlet's soliloquy. Inspired by one of the greatest performances of it captured on film.

5nlhm5rrfbg

:lol:

[DjfunkmasterG]

It was a recitation of Hamlet's soliloquy. Inspired by one of the greatest performances of it captured on film.

5nlhm5rrfbg

:lol:

That scene alone is why LAST ACTION HERO rocks

[MoonSylver]

After thinking about it, I had an epiphany. Snyder is doing high concept abstract performance art. The movie is named "Sucker Punch". After you watch it you feel like someone punched you in the nuts while you wern't looking. It's fucking brilliant. :rockbrow: :lol: :hyper: