Bin Laden dead

[Purge]

It's on the news right now. Good job, Coalition forces!

[Mr. Clean]

:thumbsup:

[slickwilly13]

I just came back from my night run at the track and this was the great news I received as I walked into my house.

[zombie04]

I just got back from the White House a few minutes ago. Despite the fact that I haven't slept since I woke up Thursday morning, completed two term papers, and just pulled a double at my job, I had just enough in me to go celebrate in proper form.

[ProfessorChaos]

small-arms firefight, said to have died from a headshot. us special forces, most likely navy SEALS.

bravo, gentlemen.

[Neil]

small-arms firefight, said to have died from a headshot. us special forces, most likely navy SEALS.

bravo, gentlemen.

Damn! Shame not a slow, messy painful death by gut wound!

But at least he's dead and not captured alive! Wonder if the head wound was received after he was captured?

Now, poll question:-
1) Is he now in heaven with his slave-army of virgins as per Islamic beliefs?
2) Rotting in hell as per Western religious beliefs?
3) His lights went out, and nothing... oe: All his religious antics and hatred were over nothing...


ps: Buried at sea - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_burial

[Tricky]

Or so news the world over is reporting! It smells fishy to me though, they killed him then quickly & conveniently buried him at sea :rockbrow: I can see reasons why they might do that, to avoid making him a martyr/spectacle etc, but for such a high value target it seems a bit of an anti-climax so to speak...
If he is dead, looking back over 10 years at how many soldiers from all ISAF forces have been killed or maimed in Afghanistan, and how much treasure has been spent fighting that war and looking for Bin Laden, was it all really worth it? Right now I dont think it was, but back in 2002/2003 when the post 9/11 shock and anger was running high, I was all for it. If its right and he has been killed, then good riddance, but has the end justified the means?

[Publius]

Wow. BZ to the SEALs for pulling this mission off, to the intelligence community for putting the intel together, and to Obama for having the guts to order the mission.


I just got back from the White House a few minutes ago. Despite the fact that I haven't slept since I woke up Thursday morning, completed two term papers, and just pulled a double at my job, I had just enough in me to go celebrate in proper form.

Nearly went down there myself! Definitely would have if we didn't have a five-year-old.


ps: Buried at sea - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_burial

Doh! Now all his true believer followers can claim the reports of his death are nothing but Western propaganda. :P

[ProfessorChaos]

Keep
calm
and
carry
on

[bassman]

While i'm very glad the world is now negative one major douchebag, in the grand scheme of things this really means nothing. Again, I am glad that US citizens get some form of closure and the guy definitely deserved it, but it doesn't mean the war will soon be over as some people seem to think. It's going to go on for many, many more years to come and many, many of our soldiers are going to die unfortunately. They've lost their so called "leader" and that is fantastic news.....but more bloodshed, death, and destruction is still coming our way. Not only in the areas where we are engaging the enemy, but also on our home turf. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.....but I feel like some people are starting the party too soon and forgetting the bigger picture here.

Either way - It is a big day in history. I hope in some way that Bin Laden's death can give the families of loved ones lost on 9/11 some form of closure and relief.

[wayzim]

I'm shocked and amazed that I'm posting this first, especially since I heard this at around 11PM EST(America ) last night.

Of course there'll be folks going 'Yah, Right. ' but after nearly ten years ( how bout that for timing? ) I'll bet there was a whole CSI crew triple checking the corpse before the news was released.

In the meantime, I think this is mostly symbolic( still a good for us, the nice people of the US and the world at large. )because it won't stop Terrorism. It might, however, make them consider just how tenacious we are about finishing a job, that we won't just let some things slide.

Wayne Z

A correction; Didn't check Media before posting this.

[wayzim]

I posted this on General Discussion without checking to see if it was up elsewhere, my bad.

But just to sum up, this is largely symbolic but still a Good ( for the whiny biachs out there, )for the mostly good folks of the world. Will Terrorism continue? you betcha. But given that he was a Prime Instigator, again this isn't a bad thing.
As for the burial at sea, my dormant geek streak had a revival with the thought 'Who do we think this guy is? Megatron? '

This on the heels of that abortive assassination attempt in Libya?
Nice that we can finally do something right.

Wayne Z

[Andy]

http://newsroomnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/team-america.jpg

F*ck yeah!!

So is that it? is the world safe now?

[Danny]

It might, however, make them consider just how tenacious we are about finishing a job, that we won't just let some things slide.


or it might be an excuse for the guy whos taken his place to rile them up into doing something big for their new martyr.

[shootemindehead]

Probably been dead for years.

[Rancid Carcass]

I suppose Donald Trump will wanna see his death certificate... :D

[MinionZombie]

My theory was that Bin Laden was like that O'Blivion dude in Videodrome.

In that he had been dead for ages, but he'd produced a whole shit-ton of videos for every eventuality.

What are the bets that the next South Park episode will be about this? Or, perhaps not the one in a few days, but the one next week. Gotta be a certainty.

[CoinReturn]

UiDyrkU0WAQ

:rockbrow:

[Danny]

What are the bets that the next South Park episode will be about this? Or, perhaps not the one in a few days, but the one next week. Gotta be a certainty.

south park needing to take its plots from the news rather than write something original? naw...that could never happen :lol:

alos. you know whos response:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/khazrak/murrcafuckyeah.png

[bassman]

What are the bets that the next South Park episode will be about this? Or, perhaps not the one in a few days, but the one next week. Gotta be a certainty.

Of course. In fact it will probably be the basis for many episodes to come. That's all those guys do...

[BillyRay]

Right, so they "Got him"; now what?

It's a big hit to Al-Queda, sure, but they're a pretty extensive organization. The "War on Terr" ain't over by a long shot. And why should it? Bin Laden's death doesn't mean the Executive Branch will be taking away any of the emergency powers it aquired (Yeah, Barry, we've noticed). There's still Trillions to be made by the Military-Industrial complex going after this week's "Number 2".

Watching my fellow Americans on TV dancing in the street at the news of Bin Laden's death creeped me out. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he's out of circulation (Even if he'll be viewed as a martyr by his people), but there's an element of Bloodlust in the whole news report cycle that I find off-putting.

What have we won, really?

[bassman]

Right, so they "Got him"; now what?

They're going to haul ass out of Afghanistan and head home, didn't you know that? Just like they did after Hussein was captured and killed. It's over. No more war. :rolleyes:

[shootemindehead]

Right, so they "Got him"; now what?

It's a big hit to Al-Queda, sure, but they're a pretty extensive organization. The "War on Terr" ain't over by a long shot. And why should it? Bin Laden's death doesn't mean the Executive Branch will be taking away any of the emergency powers it aquired (Yeah, Barry, we've noticed). There's still Trillions to be made by the Military-Industrial complex going after this week's "Number 2".

Watching my fellow Americans on TV dancing in the street at the news of Bin Laden's death creeped me out. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he's out of circulation (Even if he'll be viewed as a martyr by his people), but there's an element of Bloodlust in the whole news report cycle that I find off-putting.

What have we won, really?

Absolutely nothing, assuming it was actually Bin Laden that was shot. But, it'll make great copy in four months time. Convenient that, isn't it?

Either way, Bin Laden was small potatoes, blown out of all proportion by Western Govts. and trumpeted as The "leader" of Al Qaeda, when such a group doesn't really exist as the monolithtic entity that most assume it does. There are many leaders among the various groups under what the West calls "Al Qaeda" and most of them probably more important that a Saudi money man, who was suffering with kidney disease.

[Publius]

What have we won, really?

Giving a monster who orchestrated the murder of thousands of innocents his just deserts. Yeah that in itself doesn't mean Al Qaeda is defeated, but Bin Laden still had it coming.

[Exatreides]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDCpeTEd-PY

His death changes everything. It changes the concept that Democrats in office are weak on defense, a trend that started with Mcgoverns failed 72 election run, continued through carters iran hostage thing, and kept going with Clintons draft dodging scandal. Republicans can no longer run on the concept that democrats are soft in defense. It also makes the whole Trump birth certificate even more of a waste of time.

if anything its a real palpable victory in a war without victories. We've been at war for nearly 10 years, I was 13 when the attacks happened, I'm 23. I don't know what peace or victory feels like. This is a terrific experience to me, not only the fact that we actually did it, that we had a flawless intelligence op with no military or Civilian losses.

This could be our Stalingrad moment, a victory that while not ending the war, comes after a long drown out war with no real victories. Lets hope we broke the their moral, so we can finally push to end this thing.

[MoonSylver]

It also makes the whole Trump birth certificate even more of a waste of time.

http://www.yourfunnystuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Who-Wasnt-born-where.jpg

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[MikePizzoff]

My question is: Every other tyrannical leader/dictator/whatever that has been captured/killed has had pictures/videos of his body publicly released almost immediately. Why isn't there a single one of Osama bin Laden's body?

[Danny]

theres a picture of the body doing the rounds, clicked on it without knowing what it was and ,sheesh. yeah thats him alright. but either he was living like saddam or that aint fresh...

[Mr. Clean]

Some pakistani dude twittered about the raid without knowning it was going on.

http://storify.com/suntimes/the-man-who-liveblogged-osama-bin-ladens-death-on-



Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event). http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1186251637/sohaib-small_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ReallyVirtual) ReallyVirtual (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ReallyVirtual) http://twitter.com/favicon.icoMay 1, 2011 at 13:58 (http://twitter.com/ReallyVirtual/status/64780730286358528)


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"Go away helicopter - before I take out my giant swatter :-/" LOL giant swatter = RPG?

[SymphonicX]

While i'm very glad the world is now negative one major douchebag, in the grand scheme of things this really means nothing.

What I'm seeing on the news, on facebook, and all over the internet..."yay we've sunk the fucking mothership"...err....no...you aint. This isn't independence day and none of us are any safer.

Especially as there have been very strong rumours of a dirty bomb in Europe if Osama was caught/killed.

Ahh whatever, let people have their street parties as you say bm, its closure for those deepest affected by it - but its not really closure because all that's been achieved is Mickey Mouse has been shot but you've still got an entire band of Looney Toons out there already, who are spread far and wide and exist FAR beyond that of a regular hierarchical regime.

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theres a picture of the body doing the rounds, clicked on it without knowing what it was and ,sheesh. yeah thats him alright. but either he was living like saddam or that aint fresh...

I dunno it looks pretty fresh, he's lost a lot of blood from the head so it looks probably a bit yellower in that area. The pics of Saddam's sons, that appeared during Iraq Part 2: Return of Bush looked far more rotten, if I remember correctly!

It could be a shop tho, I can tell from teh pixels!
I mean, it could be a good shop - like they could have put his mouth on a shot up face that looked a little like him, most of it's pretty messy...wouldn't be hard really, especially as these people always have doubles too...

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RE: THE BODY PIC

It could be a shop tho, I can tell from teh pixels!
I mean, it could be a good shop - like they could have put his mouth on a shot up face that looked a little like him, most of it's pretty messy...wouldn't be hard really, especially as these people always have doubles too...

I mean, I don't mean to be a conspiracy theorist - but if you look at this picture of a sort of "before and after" of Osama (go to google images search for: "osama bin laden's body"
and the only dead pics you get are the same pic, and one variation where they have clearly flipped it sideways, the SEVENTH result is clearly a comparison pic which is basically the same pic as the dead one, except he's clearly alive - same head pose, same mouth position, same head position.)
That does look fucking fishy! Besides - I think this pic is a "fan" made sort of thing, nothing official....right??

Cos really, fishy.

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in fact yeah I got the link that proves the death pic is faked - clicked around for a bit and came up with absolute proof - its in a spoiler box, (the link I mean) so if you want to click it, do, if you don't want to see a dead body (a real one) then please, don't click the link.

http://i51.tinypic.com/kd7fv6.jpg

[MikePizzoff]

The only pictures I've been seeing around are variations of the same picture. And it's obviously a bad photoshop.

[shootemindehead]

That pic is as fake as Jordan's tits.

I've also heard that he original pic is from a bombing victim in Iraq.

[Publius]

Yeah, I think the (photoshopped) original of that one has been circulating since a previous rumor of his death a few years back.

[Neil]

Can you imagine the amount of recon work going on any paper work and computer hardware found at hsi compound?

[Publius]

Can you imagine the amount of recon work going on any paper work and computer hardware found at hsi compound?

Apparently a lot (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54151.html)! Also, some reports are now saying that 22 people were "killed or captured" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110502/pl_yblog_exclusive/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden) during the raid, raising the possiblity that there are live detainees with intelligence value.

[bassman]

I thought this (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-obama-team-watched-raid_n_856699.html?icid=main%7Cnetscape%7Cdl1%7Cse c1_lnk1%7C211955) was kinda interesting. Even with all the technology that exists today, I never would have imagined that half way across the globe Obama and his staff were watching what was basically a live feed of the operation.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkla4isxr91qz7ywoo1_500.jpg


And just for fun...

http://i.imgur.com/09fM7.jpg?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

[SymphonicX]

south park needing to take its plots from the news rather than write something original? naw...that could never happen :lol:



Aww come on, SP is a social and political satire! It was exactly that what changed the show from puerile nonsense to a biting and brilliant comedy series, in my humble opinion - do you not agree? :) I thought the moment they start injecting satire into it, it elevated beyond Cartman Gets an Anal Probe and left us with shows like Mr Jefferson! Genius stuff, I'm surprised you think it unoriginal! :p

[blind2d]

All I can say is... Oh, so he wasn't a figment of my imagination after all. Good. Glad he's gone. Proves America CAN do stuff. Now what?

Oh, and also, someone needs to make zombie Derpy fan art. I would if I could, rest assured.

[CoinReturn]

http://i.imgur.com/pvIUr.png

:(

[AcesandEights]

Not a child's question, but a question a child might ask...

[Rancid Carcass]

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/cattletech/halolz-dot-com-counterstrike-counterterroristswin.jpg

:cool:

[MoonSylver]

http://i.imgur.com/09fM7.jpg?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

:lol:

I love it.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkmo8gcsrl1qzql5lo1_500.png

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkm75nTeYe1qzxzwwo1_400.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2500/99osama.jpg

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lklhzg5IUH1qf10tro1_500.jpg

[Legion2213]

Point 1: Great news, great work by ST6 and good riddance to that scumbag Bin Laden

Point 2: I can't help myself looking at OBL's compound through the eyes of a zombie fan. :D

[Neil]

Googlemap - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&q=police+statoin&aq=&sll=34.146174,73.216732&sspn=0.004377,0.006899&ie=UTF8&rq=1&ev=zo&split=1&t=h&radius=0.24&hq=police+statoin&hnear=&ll=34.14653,73.216935&spn=0.004377,0.006899&z=17

[bassman]

Is there something i'm missing there? Because that's not the correct location... :confused:

[kortick]

I have an actual serious question for everyone.
All I have been getting are emails and posts from
ppl who are saying that this is a govt conspiracy
and Osama wasnt killed, it is all a hoax for this
reason or that.
What is the gen consensus here?
Do ppl beleive Osama was killed in this raid
or the theories such as, he wasnt killed its all a lie,
he been dead for years his body has been frozen,
and so many more are the ruling thought?
This site has a wide group of ppl from different
countries and different political backgrounds and
yes while i may not agree with some of them I
do respect the right to have whatever views u hold
no matter how it may appear otherwise.

So what is the gen consensus?
Real or Fake?

[bassman]

I think they probably killed him. Of course with every piece of important history there are always conspiracy theories, but in this case I'm thinking they actually got him. People want to look for more than the truth in any situation involving the government. Could they have known his whereabouts before now? Sure. But I doubt they were just waiting for the correct time to strike based on some hermit's half-baked idea that they're using it to cover up or lead into something else. As for it helping Obama's campaign? I doubt that. In half a year people won't even care about this issue....


Maybe if they release that picture later today it will shut up the conspiracy theorists. On second thought....no it won't.

[LouCipherr]

I think they got him, but I think it's pretty much a distraction for something else - a sort of "don't look over here" moment. Not sure what yet, but am keeping a sharp eye on the news (no, not network or tv news either-you'll find nothing of value there anyway). A lot of the "details" don't make sense yet, so I'm kind of waiting for the dust to settle to see what's really going on.

[AcesandEights]

They killed him, more than likely, and, either way, he is almost certainly dead--no president wants to risk getting that sort of egg on his face.

[Rancid Carcass]

Considering the damage that Bin Laden has had on the American psyche over the last ten years faking something of this magnitude would be certain political suicide for any US president, and would render his political party pretty much unelectable for next hundred years or so if it ever got out.
As for the conspiracy theorists - They want a photo as proof, if you give them a photo they'll tell you it's fake. If they see the video footage they'll tell you it's a Hollywood backlot. They only want this stuff so they can further develop their theories by pointing out any apparent inconsistancies they can find, just look at how they pour over the photos of the moon landings - every little grain or spec in the image is definitive proof of a studio mock-up. Lets face it, they don't want to be proven wrong and they'll never agree with whatever proof you can offer up, and even if you took them along and they where actually there at the time I'm sure they'd claim it was some drug induced hallucination to make them think it was real. Let 'em stew I say!

[MoonSylver]

This...



I think they probably killed him. Of course with every piece of important history there are always conspiracy theories, but in this case I'm thinking they actually got him. People want to look for more than the truth in any situation involving the government. Could they have known his whereabouts before now? Sure. But I doubt they were just waiting for the correct time to strike based on some hermit's half-baked idea that they're using it to cover up or lead into something else. As for it helping Obama's campaign? I doubt that. In half a year people won't even care about this issue....


Maybe if they release that picture later today it will shut up the conspiracy theorists. On second thought....no it won't.

...and this.



They killed him, more than likely, and, either way, he is almost certainly dead--no president wants to risk getting that sort of egg on his face.


And also this.



Considering the damage that Bin Laden has had on the American psyche over the last ten years faking something of this magnitude would be certain political suicide for any US president, and would render his political party pretty much unelectable for next hundred years or so if it ever got out.
As for the conspiracy theorists - They want a photo as proof, if you give them a photo they'll tell you it's fake. If they see the video footage they'll tell you it's a Hollywood backlot. They only want this stuff so they can further develop their theories by pointing out any apparent inconsistancies they can find, just look at how they pour over the photos of the moon landings - every little grain or spec in the image is definitive proof of a studio mock-up. Lets face it, they don't want to be proven wrong and they'll never agree with whatever proof you can offer up, and even if you took them along and they where actually there at the time I'm sure they'd claim it was some drug induced hallucination to make them think it was real. Let 'em stew I say!


I've been thinking of this one a lot in conjunction with all this:


"For the believer no proof is needed for the skeptic no proof is possible."

[shootemindehead]

I have an actual serious question for everyone.
All I have been getting are emails and posts from
ppl who are saying that this is a govt conspiracy
and Osama wasnt killed, it is all a hoax for this
reason or that.
What is the gen consensus here?
Do ppl beleive Osama was killed in this raid
or the theories such as, he wasnt killed its all a lie,
he been dead for years his body has been frozen,
and so many more are the ruling thought?
This site has a wide group of ppl from different
countries and different political backgrounds and
yes while i may not agree with some of them I
do respect the right to have whatever views u hold
no matter how it may appear otherwise.

So what is the gen consensus?
Real or Fake?

Personally speaking, Bin Laden is dead. WHEN and HOW he died is still very much open to debate, as far as I'm concerned. Also, the unbelievably convenient timing of this (upcoming 9/11 nausea and Obama's admin in trouble) forces me to at least raise an eyebrow, if not outright smell a rat of some sort. Not to mention the intentional hiding of any real evidence. Instantaneous DNA test? Then flying a 1000Km's to dumb the body into the sea? And the excuse for that one is simply laughable. Upsetting Muslim principles? WTF. You know what "upset(s) Muslims", bombing their women and children and interfering in their countries affairs.

In addition, the fact that there's been so much bullshit about the raid already has my alarm bells going. First he was armed, then he was using he wife as a "human shield" :rolleyes: ,then she was killed too, then she wasn't and he wasn't armed etc, etc.

Either way, as I said before, Bin Laden was small potatoes and probably always has been (even when he was America's friend). I've never been fully convinced he was the "mastermind" behind Sept. 11, or that he was the leader of "Al Queda" (because Al Queda doesn't exist in that fashion). Perhaps he was a high at one stage, but I'd say he had long since ceased to have had any umph. But, am I just simply going to believe US governments when they tell me things? Am I fuck.

In any case and get this straight, governments (like all large organisations) DO conspire. It's an essential part of running things. They conspire all the time. NOTHING is out in the open and NOTHING is as it first seems. Whether it's rigging election results, gathering dirt on the opposition or a false flag operations as a pretext to war. These thing DO and HAVE happened. Even on the most minimal scale of, say, towing the party line at the expense of your own real opinions on a given matter. THAT right there is a conspiracy. It doesn't always have to be of the magnitude of something like the Gleiwitz incident of 1939.

Of course "automatic conspiracy" is nonsense, but there's only one thing worse than someone who shouts "conspiracy" at every drop of that hat and that's someone dismissing the idea completely and engaging in "automatic belief".

Anyway, the US will probably release something to "prove" something and a lot of people will be happy (as they are already simply because they were told) and perhaps there will be some who aren't entirely convinced. However, there's footage of the ENTIRE operation available. If they are worried about not convincing people (which they aren't) they could show the important parts in that.

Lastly, I couldn't give a toss about Bin Laden or his assassination. He's "news" from the beginning of the decade and his demise won't change my world one iota.

It'll, no doubt, go some way to helping Barrack though ;)

[bassman]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/48/hes_dead.gif

[Mr. Clean]

http://i.imgur.com/pvIUr.png

:(

What kind of rock does someone have to hide under to be that damn sheltered? :duh:

[blind2d]

I know, right? Crazy... Well, anyway, conspiracy or no... *falls asleep*

[Legion2213]

What kind of rock does someone have to hide under to be that damn sheltered? :duh:

The rock of pure ignorance I think.

It's a bit worrying that people really are so bloody dense is it not?

[Tricky]

I know when the towers came down most of the people on that (twitter?) feed were probably about 10, but surely they cant be so dense as to not know who Osama was? I mean his face has been prominent in the news ever since & surely raw recent history like 9/11 cant be forgotten that quickly! I bet nobody in the 1950's was saying "who was Adolf Hitler & why should I care?" :confused:

[Publius]

I have an actual serious question for everyone.
All I have been getting are emails and posts from
ppl who are saying that this is a govt conspiracy
and Osama wasnt killed, it is all a hoax for this
reason or that.
What is the gen consensus here?
Do ppl beleive Osama was killed in this raid
or the theories such as, he wasnt killed its all a lie,
he been dead for years his body has been frozen,
and so many more are the ruling thought?
This site has a wide group of ppl from different
countries and different political backgrounds and
yes while i may not agree with some of them I
do respect the right to have whatever views u hold
no matter how it may appear otherwise.

So what is the gen consensus?
Real or Fake?

I'm no fan of Obama, but yeah, I believe Bin Laden was killed in this raid and you've pretty much gotta be wearing a tin foil hat to think otherwise. Obviously a raid occurred when and where the administration says it did. Bin Laden's daughter acknowledges that he was killed, but alleges that he was captured first and then shot. I wouldn't be shocked if that were true. But still alive? Killed way earlier and kept on ice? Just not plausible.

The administration's real problem is that Obama was too eager to take credit for accomplishing what Bush didn't, get in front of the TV cameras and do his little touchdown dance in the end zone. They should have kept a lid on the news until all the facts were in so they wouldn't have to put out sketchy info and backtrack later. Frankly, they should have waited several days for the more important reason of exploiting intel seized from the compound before Bin Laden's associates knew what happened.

[wayzim]

or it might be an excuse for the guy whos taken his place to rile them up into doing something big for their new martyr.

This is a spontaneous parody of a parody, lifted from a massive tome called The Boomer Bible(1991, R.F.Laird )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boomer_Bible

It will likely offend.

Hint; the original text references 'Pearl Harbor.' and 'The Nips. '
so approach with a sense of humor.

Even God is supposed, by some, to have one.

You've been warned.

Chapt ?

The Yanks were mad about 9/11, of course
2 But maybe not quite as mad as they were surprised,
3 and offended,
4 Because how did The Mesos ever get the idea that a
sneak attack on the US was a good idea?
5 After all, it hadn't been a good idea to make the Yanks
mad,
6 Like with The Alamo,
7 And The Maine,
8 And the Lusitania,
9 And Pearl Harbor,
10 Which should have tipped off The Mesos
that if they did something bad to The Yanks,
11 Something unspeakable like 9/11, for example,
12 The Yanks would remember it,
13 Forever,
14 And find a way to get even,
15 No matter how much it cost,
16 Which was a bundle,

Wayne Z

[bassman]

Al Queda confirmed Bin Laden's death (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/osama-bin-laden-dead-al-qaeda_n_858440.html?icid=main%7Cnetscape%7Cdl1%7Cs ec1_lnk3%7C212364)today. And of course vowed revenge to the US. They say that his body should be turned over to his family, and if it isn't then the revenge will be even worse. Apparently they didn't know about his watery grave. Ru-row Shaggy....

Also, the white house is saying that Bin Laden was working up a plan to attack us on this years 9/11 anniversary. Something about derailing a train. Being that 9/11 was so massive in scale, derailing a train sounds a bit weak for those guys.

[MoonSylver]

Al Queda confirmed Bin Laden's death (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/osama-bin-laden-dead-al-qaeda_n_858440.html?icid=main%7Cnetscape%7Cdl1%7Cs ec1_lnk3%7C212364)today. And of course vowed revenge to the US. They say that his body should be turned over to his family, and if it isn't then the revenge will be even worse. Apparently they didn't know about his watery grave. Ru-row Shaggy....

And they shouldn't have let Lou handle the arrangements:

http://tundratabloids.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/oblburialatsea.jpg

:lol:


Also, the white house is saying that Bin Laden was working up a plan to attack us on this years 9/11 anniversary. Something about derailing a train. Being that 9/11 was so massive in scale, derailing a train sounds a bit weak for those guys.

Depends on how many & what they're carrying...:shifty: :eek:

[Publius]

Being that 9/11 was so massive in scale, derailing a train sounds a bit weak for those guys.

But pretty impressive compared to anything they've pulled off since then. Seems like it's now or never for AQ. If they can't accomplish something in retaliation for Bin Laden's death, their potential supporters will really wonder what use they are.

[SymphonicX]

It still feels like a massive distraction...this whole "mission accomplished" thing and the love of vengeance seems to be clouding people's views...

You have not sunk the mothership.

[blind2d]

Nor the battleship, truly.
But still, it's kinda happy. And hey, now we have a brand new country to be angry at!