the way back machine: Starship and Eddie Money Edition

[acealive1]

Eddie Money and Starship featuring Mickey Thomas.


august 8th 2011


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[rongravy]

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyy?!?!?
Starship: I saw an interview with that Mickey guy. He looks alot less, for lack of a better word, faggy now. I like the WITH part, all the songs I heard sounded like alot of him and not much Grace. I always figured because she was all croaky from the bottle. I also saw her lately, she's a large, white haired lady. The times have not been kind.
Eddeh: Not sure if I shared the story before, but he played the nearby casino awhile back. He came over later and talked to my wife and she had no idea who he was. So funny. The times have not been kind to him lately either.

[SRP76]

Seeing as how they're all around 60 years old, I wouldn't expect them all to look like a million bucks. It's how they sound that matters anyway.

I only like a few songs by either of them in the first place, but I've got nothing against them.

[JDFP]

Really? You couldn't find some better quality videos? Still, some great tunes.

None of it compares to Grace Slick and the original Jefferson Airplane though. Now that was just some magically awesome music!

j.p.

[acealive1]

how would i find better quality videos? should i set up an "i need a new camera" fund?


like it or not, this is the closest we will ever get to jefferson airplane/starship in the form of a reunion. this lineup has been together for quite a long time and paul katner (who has the jefferson airplane name rights) tries to use mickey's voice in concert promos....... for his group and they sound like shit live.

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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyy?!?!?
Starship: I saw an interview with that Mickey guy. He looks alot less, for lack of a better word, faggy now. I like the WITH part, all the songs I heard sounded like alot of him and not much Grace. I always figured because she was all croaky from the bottle. I also saw her lately, she's a large, white haired lady. The times have not been kind.
Eddeh: Not sure if I shared the story before, but he played the nearby casino awhile back. He came over later and talked to my wife and she had no idea who he was. So funny. The times have not been kind to him lately either.








pray you look that good at 71. grace slick is retired and shes probably gonna stay that way.

its either starship or nothing because no one else has mickey's voice. he's been what people identify with jefferson airplane/starship for a long time along with grace slick.


yea.......so you want to know why mickey thomas doesnt look the same? reconstructive surgery after being attacked will do that to you along with being about 61....


dont be so critical.

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Seeing as how they're all around 60 years old, I wouldn't expect them all to look like a million bucks. It's how they sound that matters anyway.

I only like a few songs by either of them in the first place, but I've got nothing against them.

only mickey is near 60 or over. everyone else in that group is no older than 45.

[JDFP]

how would i find better quality videos? should i set up an "i need a new camera" fund?


like it or not, this is the closest we will ever get to jefferson airplane/starship in the form of a reunion. this lineup has been together for quite a long time and paul katner (who has the jefferson airplane name rights) tries to use mickey's voice in concert promos....... for his group and they sound like shit live.

My bad, I didn't realize you had recorded it. I figured they were just some videos pulled from youtube.

I've always really digged Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship though, but the two best vocalists they had (in my opinion) were Grace Slick (who will just never be beat by anyone, she's up there with Patti Smith, Joplin and Carpenter for me as one of the greatest female vocalists) and Diana Mangano who was also very talented.

The "new" Jefferson Starship today is a bit like listening to something "New" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's better than 90% of everything new being released today, but you just can't hold a torch to what was and never shall be able to ever again.

j.p.

[acealive1]

My bad, I didn't realize you had recorded it. I figured they were just some videos pulled from youtube.

I've always really digged Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship though, but the two best vocalists they had (in my opinion) were Grace Slick (who will just never be beat by anyone, she's up there with Patti Smith, Joplin and Carpenter for me as one of the greatest female vocalists) and Diana Mangano who was also very talented.

The "new" Jefferson Starship today is a bit like listening to something "New" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's better than 90% of everything new being released today, but you just can't hold a torch to what was and never shall be able to ever again.

j.p.


ohh no , i wouldnt ever post someone elses shit. this is was shot by me and my shitty nikon camera which is 6 years old.

diana is really hot for being over 40. i'd be her groupie.

the chick with them isnt bad at all, but u could tell they were having serious in ear monitor problems through the whole show.

i cant comment on the jefferson airplane era. i missed it all and was born after starship was already goin strong.


sorry if i came off fucked up. i apologize and im sorry for that.

[rongravy]

pray you look that good at 71. grace slick is retired and shes probably gonna stay that way.

its either starship or nothing because no one else has mickey's voice. he's been what people identify with jefferson airplane/starship for a long time along with grace slick.


yea.......so you want to know why mickey thomas doesnt look the same? reconstructive surgery after being attacked will do that to you along with being about 61....


dont be so critical.

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only mickey is near 60 or over. everyone else in that group is no older than 45.
Dang, chill. I thought he looked better now, he actually gave a really good interview of what he went through. Sorry he was attacked, Frank Zappa lost a year or so due to an idiotic attack. As far as Grace...
Me at 71? No idea, probably not alive, or looking like Yoda, or worse. No attempt at being a jerk. The thing I saw was how much of an alkie she was.
I remember when Starship came out, nevermind the fact that I was never impressed with Airplane. Never fit in with what was going on in music at the time in the 80's. I can respect that maybe you liked them, but I didn't. I just didn't. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
Not denying Mickey had a great voice, I'd be more inclined to say it was wasted on a has been group that was wayyyy past dying. The fat lady was way past singing her last tune...

[acealive1]

Dang, chill. I thought he looked better now, he actually gave a really good interview of what he went through. Sorry he was attacked, Frank Zappa lost a year or so due to an idiotic attack. As far as Grace...
Me at 71? No idea, probably not alive, or looking like Yoda, or worse. No attempt at being a jerk. The thing I saw was how much of an alkie she was.
I remember when Starship came out, nevermind the fact that I was never impressed with Airplane. Never fit in with what was going on in music at the time in the 80's. I can respect that maybe you liked them, but I didn't. I just didn't. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
Not denying Mickey had a great voice, I'd be more inclined to say it was wasted on a has been group that was wayyyy past dying. The fat lady was way past singing her last tune...



im chill,bro. i just dont get the hatred for starship

[clanglee]

i just dont get the hatred for starship

4 words. . . . .We built this City . . . . . :barf:

[rongravy]

im chill,bro. i just dont get the hatred for starship
As I do not get the love for KISS, though they gave me nightmares in the 70's as a child.
I'm a child of the 80's, new wave punk. Trust me, I remember when We Built This City, or Sara, came out. I was not impressed. Nowadays I can respect his voice, even what you said happened to him, but still...
This music made me cringe when it came out. I chalk it up to having some sort of taste. PiL like a mofo. Once you know who Johnny is, you can never go back.Starship/Kiss who?

[clanglee]

As I do not get the love for KISS, though they gave me nightmares in the 70's as a child.
I'm a child of the 80's, new wave punk. Trust me, I remember when We Built This City, or Sara, came out. I was not impressed. Nowadays I can respect his voice, even what you said happened to him, but still...
This music made me cringe when it came out. I chalk it up to having some sort of taste. PiL like a mofo. Once you know who Johnny is, you can never go back.Starship/Kiss who?
I agree with this post. . . .until the Johnny Rotten part. . . . .

[JDFP]

Oh come on, no respectable rock group would ever consider still touring/performing after about 60 or so, that's just disturbing to think about a bunch of old men/grandpas strutting around on stage as if they were still the shit and still 25...

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j.p.

[acealive1]

4 words. . . . .We built this City . . . . . :barf:

far worse 80's songs.....

[JDFP]

far worse 80's songs.....

There's no such thing as a bad song from the 80's if you ask me.

j.p.

[acealive1]

There's no such thing as a bad song from the 80's if you ask me.

j.p.


now thats a true 80's man. i missed alot of it but i had cable,two older brothers and a mom so i was caught up fast

[clanglee]

far worse 80's songs.....

But not many worse songs that were done by a band that, in it previous incarnation, was legendary. No. . .Starship was pretty much a travesty imo.

[SRP76]

But not many worse songs that were done by a band that, in it previous incarnation, was legendary. No. . .Starship was pretty much a travesty imo.

Legendary? More like overrated. There's maybe two Airplane songs I halfassed enjoy. About the same as Starship, so I don't see a problem.

[acealive1]

Legendary? More like overrated. There's maybe two Airplane songs I halfassed enjoy. About the same as Starship, so I don't see a problem.


overrated? nah. here's over rated: duran duran

[rongravy]

overrated? nah. here's over rated: duran duran
Lol, oh nooooooooooooooooooo you didn't.:rolleyes:
You may not like them, which I can understand. Their good looks and sense of fashion often got their true talent overlooked. Those guys defined a decade: at the forefront of New Wave, MTV when it was still the bomb, and pretty much most of the 80's. Everything they put out was instant gold. They even had a few in the 90's as well.
I hear sometimes how they were the pre-New Kids boy band. Big difference in that they played all their own instruments and wrote all their own songs and music.
I had a friend awhile back that used to say a bunch of crap about them until I dared him to go to the '05 Dallas show with me. He was utterly blown away by them.
Maybe someday I can take you to a show. Hell, I'd even be willing to see KISS in exchange. As long as they played Lick It Up.
:p
You should check out As The Lights Go Down, their concert from '84 that was shown on Cinemax. Contrary to popular belief, at least nowadays, those guys could rock the house down, and all the panties contained therein.
I still love them for the fact that they never became just another 80's nostalgia band. They've always put out new music, not just tried to rely on their past to just go in and pantomime a performance and cash that paycheck. I can respect that.
Lol, love them to death. And they've gotten even better with age. Not many can boast the same credentials...

[AcesandEights]

Here's what I have to say about 80s music...

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PS--Moved thread to Media Section.

[acealive1]

Lol, oh nooooooooooooooooooo you didn't.:rolleyes:
You may not like them, which I can understand. Their good looks and sense of fashion often got their true talent overlooked. Those guys defined a decade: at the forefront of New Wave, MTV when it was still the bomb, and pretty much most of the 80's. Everything they put out was instant gold. They even had a few in the 90's as well.
I hear sometimes how they were the pre-New Kids boy band. Big difference in that they played all their own instruments and wrote all their own songs and music.
I had a friend awhile back that used to say a bunch of crap about them until I dared him to go to the '05 Dallas show with me. He was utterly blown away by them.
Maybe someday I can take you to a show. Hell, I'd even be willing to see KISS in exchange. As long as they played Lick It Up.
:p
You should check out As The Lights Go Down, their concert from '84 that was shown on Cinemax. Contrary to popular belief, at least nowadays, those guys could rock the house down, and all the panties contained therein.
I still love them for the fact that they never became just another 80's nostalgia band. They've always put out new music, not just tried to rely on their past to just go in and pantomime a performance and cash that paycheck. I can respect that.
Lol, love them to death. And they've gotten even better with age. Not many can boast the same credentials...




sorry, duran duran stopped being cool when robert palmer sang one of their songs better than them....with two of their members. hahaah long live the power station!!!!!!!

[rongravy]

sorry, duran duran stopped being cool when robert palmer sang one of their songs better than them....with two of their members. hahaah long live the power station!!!!!!!
Ha, says you.:duh:
Besides, Bobby is singing with the angels now.
That, or burning in Heck's eternal fiyahhhhhs of darnation, lol.:evil:
I liked Power Station, too. Almost as much as the other Duran spinoff, Arcadia.
Which song are you talking about?
I have one of Duran singing Bang a Gong, and Simon belted it out rather nicely...
Also, Power Station was the two Taylors' baby. Palmer was only supposed to be one of many revolving singers. Guess they dug him enough to keep him around. I can live with you liking PS better, but Duran overrated?
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[acealive1]

Ha, says you.:duh:
Besides, Bobby is singing with the angels now.
That, or burning in Heck's eternal fiyahhhhhs of darnation, lol.:evil:
I liked Power Station, too. Almost as much as the other Duran spinoff, Arcadia.
Which song are you talking about?
I have one of Duran singing Bang a Gong, and Simon belted it out rather nicely...
Also, Power Station was the two Taylors' baby. Palmer was only supposed to be one of many revolving singers. Guess they dug him enough to keep him around. I can live with you liking PS better, but Duran overrated?
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


murderess.


hell, even michael des barres sang it better than le bon. hahaah.


and NOTHING beats "we fight for love"

[rongravy]

murderess.


hell, even michael des barres sang it better than le bon. hahaah.


and NOTHING beats "we fight for love"
Trolling the troll, eh?
We shall agree to disagree then, lol. And I've never heard a Duran song called Murderess.
Saraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Seh-haraaaaaaaaaa.
:elol:
It's all good, buddeh.

[acealive1]

Trolling the troll, eh?
We shall agree to disagree then, lol. And I've never heard a Duran song called Murderess.
Saraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Seh-haraaaaaaaaaa.
:elol:
It's all good, buddeh.



trolling? how can i troll on my topic?


sara is a great song.


you've never heard of a duran duran song called murderess? what kind of fan are u? :p


kidding. from what i've always heard it was either on or was an out take from a duran duran album which was fleshed out for the power station.

[rongravy]

An "In the closet Duranie" in the making...
I will now apologize on giving you shit over Starship, and KISS.
That's cool you like them, I didn't mean to razz too hard over it. Not my cup of tea, to be honest, but still I'd not begrudge anyone their likes.
In the 80's I was never a heavy metal kinda guy, even the precursors like REO and Journey. There is, however, a memory assigned to any and all songs, even Starship, that will NEVER be unforgotten.
Not to sound gay, but I'm all about brotherly love.
Ok, that was extremely gay, I'll admit.
I just wanted you to know that I wasn't trying to be a dick over all this. Thank you for taking the high road, as you could've not. Sometimes I have opinions on things, hell they even change from time to time. I'm the kind of guy to be taken with a grain of salt. Peace out, amigo.

[acealive1]

An "In the closet Duranie" in the making...
I will now apologize on giving you shit over Starship, and KISS.
That's cool you like them, I didn't mean to razz too hard over it. Not my cup of tea, to be honest, but still I'd not begrudge anyone their likes.
In the 80's I was never a heavy metal kinda guy, even the precursors like REO and Journey. There is, however, a memory assigned to any and all songs, even Starship, that will NEVER be unforgotten.
Not to sound gay, but I'm all about brotherly love.
Ok, that was extremely gay, I'll admit.
I just wanted you to know that I wasn't trying to be a dick over all this. Thank you for taking the high road, as you could've not. Sometimes I have opinions on things, hell they even change from time to time. I'm the kind of guy to be taken with a grain of salt. Peace out, amigo.



no man ur just fine. i was worried i came off like a prick as well. sorry if i did tho. i apologize.