Mad Max: Fury Road (film)

[Neil]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52110

There's talk of a Mad Max video game too!

[Legion2213]

Hmm, I'll have to see a bit more info before I go splooging in my pants over this, I really enjoyed the originals (even 3 to a certain extent).

[AcesandEights]

I really enjoyed the originals (even 3 to a certain extent).

I think Thunderdome gets a bad rap. It's got some great post-apocalyptic action, set design, costuming and balls-out characters. There's some roll-your-eyes aspects and some boring plot direction at times, but it's got some great component pieces to it.

As far as a new trilogy...we'll see. But Tom Hardy is a damned good start, I'd think.

[bassman]

Hell....Thunderdome is my favorite of the three. It's just a fun ride.

As for the new trilogy? Ehh...I'll check it out. Hopefully it can bring something fresh to the table.

[krisvds]

I think Thunderdome gets a bad rap. It's got some great post-apocalyptic action, set design, costuming and balls-out characters. There's some roll-your-eyes aspects and some boring plot direction at times, but it's got some great component pieces to it.

As far as a new trilogy...we'll see. But Tom Hardy is a damned good start, I'd think.

Very much this.
Let's hope one out of three george's can live up to his legacy.

[JDFP]

Love the Mad Max films, but I'll make it pretty simple:

If Mel Gibson is Mad Max I'd love to see it and will look forward to it.

Anyone else playing Mad Max? No thanks, won't watch even for free.

If it's not Mel Gibson it's not Mad Max.

j.p.

[AcesandEights]

Mel Gibson is out to pasture, JP, and good riddance as far as I'm concerned. I just hope he stays there.

I'd love to see a new Mad Max and if done well it could be as good as the originals...but it'd take a lot of love and care to pull that off. Hell, if they want to go with a character of the Road Warrior more in line with Mel's age--cast someone like Kurt Russel or something. I'd still rather see them try that than go back to trotting out Mel :barf:

[krisvds]

I can see where you are coming from JP. I truelly love the original films, especially the second one. But let's give Miller the benefit of the doubt. Mel IS getting old. Still, of all the classic action heroes (if you can call Max a 'hero') the road warrior could still kick some ass as a sixty year old Unlike, say, Indy.
Hardy might pull it of though. As long as they go for an R rating, and try to outdo the 'death proof' chase sequence we'll be fine. I hope.

[EvilNed]

While I don't mind Tom Hardy being the protagonist, I don't like somebody else playing the actual "Mad" Max Rockatansky! Have him play his son or something. But unless this a reboot, I'm not buying it.

Having that said, I had no idea Fury Road had finally been green-lit. Awesome! I hope they spend as much time on stunts as they did in the originals.

[JDFP]

Mel Gibson is out to pasture, JP, and good riddance as far as I'm concerned. I just hope he stays there.

I'd love to see a new Mad Max and if done well it could be as good as the originals...but it'd take a lot of love and care to pull that off. Hell, if they want to go with a character of the Road Warrior more in line with Mel's age--cast someone like Kurt Russel or something. I'd still rather see them try that than go back to trotting out Mel :barf:

I think Mel Gibson's a fine actor and I enjoy most of his work. I wish he'd shut his damn fool mouth up when he's drunk and start drinking in the privacy of one of his homes though. I try not to associate actors/directors with their "personal lives" no matter how awful some of these folks are. For example, Roman Polanski isn't exactly the best human being in the world but I'll be damned if I don't look forward to enjoying each and every one of his films as I think he's a masterful director and I absolutely love his films.

I'll second the opinion if they use someone else other than Mel they need to either come up with a story of it being Max's son in the series as I'm just not interested in a re-boot of the series. It's just fine (and great the way it is).

j.p.

[shootemindehead]

I'm agreeing with JD here. It has to be Mel of GTFO.

Mind you, I can't stand the first Mad Max film. I thought it was rubbish. II and III were good though. But, I think on the whole the series is highly overrated.

If it's a reboot, then I don't care. If it's a continuation, then Mel.

[MikePizzoff]

If it's being done by a major production company, then you can say "bye" to your hopes of it being any good.

[AcesandEights]

Was Thunder Road originally supposed to be a direct sequel or an interlude falling between one of the preexisting films (i.e. between 1 and 2 or between 2 and 3)?

[rongravy]

Tom Hardy looks ok but I thought I heard way back Jeremy Renner was da man. Que pasa?

[krisvds]

It has been done before in the past; classic characters portrayed by different actors actually pulling it of. Take for instance James Bond. While Sean Connery was perfect, many also like Moore, Dalton, Lazenby, .... Same with Dracula; both Lugosi and Lee brought different interpretations and so forth. Mad Max is a bit of a mythical figure in his own B-Movie way. Mel was great back in the day, but let's reserve judgment 'till we see some actual footage? Hardy might work. A bigger danger than Mel's absence would be them using CGI instead of actual stunts in the inevitable chase sequences.

[blind2d]

I'm just excited for more Post-Apoc shenanigans, honestly. Yeah, I don't care who plays him. I just want a good character, good script, good action... Y'know, the basics. That's all I ask. Please, Hollywood?

[bassman]

After so many years, i'm actually kinda surprised to see it's really happening (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/take-a-look-at-badass-mad-max-fury-road-vehicles-on-the-way-to-africa). These production vehicles for the fourth film were spotted on their way to South Africa.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/MadMaxFuryvehicles.jpg

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/MadMaxFuryvehicles2.jpg

[MikePizzoff]

Those are really cool looking. Fingers crossed.

[AcesandEights]

Badass :thumbsup:

[Neil]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Tom-Hardy-Charlize-Theron-Look-Badass-Mad-Max-Fury-Road-First-Look-43612.html

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/43612/mad_max_fury_road_43612.jpg

[EvilNed]

Bad ass!

Man, I got all excited now!

[shootemindehead]

It looks kinda stupid.

First of all what's Theron doing in it and second, she has a robot arm?

[Neil]

It looks kinda stupid.

First of all what's Theron doing in it and second, she has a robot arm?

I'm confused too! The world's gone to pot, so maintaining a robotic arm surely would be nigh on impossible!?

[EvilNed]

Yeah, not too crazy about the robot arm either, to be honest...

[shootemindehead]

That picture is just screaming "wrong" at me, every time I look at it.

It's like the producers have completely missed the point.

[MinionZombie]

I didn't even notice the robot arm until you guys pointed it out. I was too busy looking at the cars and explosions in the preview pics to notice.

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

[bassman]

Comic Con Trailer:

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I'm liking what I'm seeing. I'm not a massive fan of the original three, but this being released gives me reason to purchase the trilogy and have a marathon beforehand...

[EvilNed]

Woah. That looks awesome.

[Neil]

^^ Just as long as the action isn't too ridiculous!

Looking promising though!

[AcesandEights]

That looked badass, to me :)

[MinionZombie]

That looks friggin' awesome to me!

Still don't really know what the story is, but it certainly looks set to deliver on the action and visuals front - wowee! :thumbsup:

[shootemindehead]

There's no water

There's no oil

There's not much of anything.

But women still have the time to pluck their eyebrows.

F*ck sake.

[AcesandEights]

There's no water

There's no oil

There's not much of anything.

But women still have the time to pluck their eyebrows.

F*ck sake.

You're going to feel foolish when it is revealed through an opening montage that the world was in fact brought to its knees, not by peak oil, the catastrophic result of runaway global warming nor MZ becoming a published author, rather it is the results of the depilating virus Baldy-818.

[shootemindehead]

You're correct Aces.

And when that happens I'll shut up.

BUT UNTIL THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MinionZombie]

You're going to feel foolish when it is revealed through an opening montage that the world was in fact brought to its knees, not by peak oil, the catastrophic result of runaway global warming nor MZ becoming a published author, rather it is the results of the depilating virus Baldy-818.


You're correct Aces.

And when that happens I'll shut up.

BUT UNTIL THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol::lol::lol:

...

Of course, if you really want to get technical, that far into an apocalypse all the fuel would have become useless anyway ... it's essentially got an expiry date as sooner of later it gets all buggered up.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/04/09/aa.bad.gas/

But where would the fun be in that?

[AcesandEights]

Of course, if you really want to get technical, that far into an apocalypse all the fuel would have become useless anyway ... it's essentially got an expiry date as sooner of later it gets all buggered up.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/04/09/aa.bad.gas/

But where would the fun be in that?


Just got to find a small pocket that hadn't been tapped and sink a well. Easy-peasy, writer fiatsy (it almost rhymed).

Pumping it they are. Refining it. Kachunk... kachunk... kachunk...

[krisvds]

Well. It does look batshit insane and a lot of the vehicular action seems to be practical. Bad guys look like they came straight out af a George Miller Mad Max film so ... who knows?
Looking forward to it.

[Legion2213]

Looks visually stunning, but also a bit ADHD.

I read that the director commented that he just wanted a giant chase movie...which is worrying. It also seems to be a huge mash up of the 3 originals...I suppose time will tell.

[bassman]

Well. It does look batshit insane and a lot of the vehicular action seems to be practical. Bad guys look like they came straight out af a George Miller Mad Max film so ... who knows?
Looking forward to it.


Looks visually stunning, but also a bit ADHD.

I read that the director commented that he just wanted a giant chase movie...which is worrying. It also seems to be a huge mash up of the 3 originals...I suppose time will tell.

Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you guys are saying, but it seems like you may be suggesting this film is being helmed by someone other than George Miller?...

[krisvds]

Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you guys are saying, but it seems like you may be suggesting this film is being helmed by someone other than George Miller?...

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Hehe. The biggest surprise that trailer held for me is that it felt like a proper Mad Max film. We have had enough Georges (Romero and Lucas that is) revisiting past glories only to turn up with subpar products.
I love the original three Mad Max films. Even the third one. I am really hoping Miller can recapture some of the energy those films had with this new one. I was very sceptical about it until I saw the trailer. Maybe, just maybe this will end up a whole lot better than, for instance, Escape From LA, Diary of The Dead or The Phantom Menace to name but three films that managed to tarnish the reputation of a once great genre director.

[Legion2213]

Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you guys are saying, but it seems like you may be suggesting this film is being helmed by someone other than George Miller?...

Just saying the trailer looks a bit OTT...I'll watch the film regardless because it's Mad Fucking Max...and I hope it kicks my ass when I do watch it. :)

[savethelastone]

I will gladly watch, I love the whole EOTW genre, next to the living dead genre that is! Any one play Rage, the vehicles, characters and land scape look like the game, grate game also. So is it settled that it is a continuation from 3?

[krisvds]

I believe it will be more of a reboot of the series than a direct sequel to Thunderdome.
In the trailer we can clearly see the 'interceptor'. By the time Beyond Thunderdome came around that vehicule was lost to Max I believe.
Anyways: I always felt the previous films werent really a 'series', more standalone tales featuring the road warrior. Much like 'the man with no name' in Leone's westerns.

[MinionZombie]

I will gladly watch, I love the whole EOTW genre, next to the living dead genre that is! Any one play Rage, the vehicles, characters and land scape look like the game, grate game also. So is it settled that it is a continuation from 3?

Yeah I've played "Rage" and I see what you mean with the desert landscape and the vehicles and such. It does have that kind of vibe to it, I wonder if the folks at id Software used the Max trilogy as inspiration.

Welcome to the boards, by the way, savethelastone. :)


I believe it will be more of a reboot of the series than a direct sequel to Thunderdome.
In the trailer we can clearly see the 'interceptor'. By the time Beyond Thunderdome came around that vehicule was lost to Max I believe.
Anyways: I always felt the previous films werent really a 'series', more standalone tales featuring the road warrior. Much like 'the man with no name' in Leone's westerns.

Aye, I don't generally consider them 'linked' movies in the strictest - or even somewhat vaguest - sense. The same character in different scenarios in a post-apoc Australia. Max 1 is a very different film to Max 2 which is a very different film to Max 3, although 2 and 3 are closer linked visually and stylistically than they are to the first movie. Wasn't a fan of #3 though, it had some good points but generally it felt like a weird tangent after the thoroughly iconic second film which is instantly the sort of imagery that comes to mind whenever you think "Mad Max" ... and "Fury Road" looks like it's akin to the second flick. :cool:

[Neil]

Looks bonkers :)

Look at the lady's metal "outfit" at 1m31s - LOL!

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http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/68603/_1418239681.jpg

[MoonSylver]

:lol: Awesome. Little bigger & CGI heavy than I would have liked...low tech & grungy is how I will always think of MAd MAx/The Road Warrior, but the vehicle & costume design is perfect & the vibe seems spot on. :)

[krisvds]

If that trailer is anything to go by we might end up with a totally insane action film that belongs to a different time. It's the eighties all over again.
Wonder how today's kids will react to this after years and years of heroes in spandex and Transformers nonsense.

[MinionZombie]

Neil - you mean the very brief shot with the metal 'teeth' bikini bottoms? :lol:

This movie looks super cool! The action looks insane! Hopefully the framework upon which all that car-nage ( ;) ) hangs is as robust as the fuel-guzzling monsters yomping through that desert.

[Neil]

Neil - you mean the very brief shot with the metal 'teeth' bikini bottoms? :lol:
It's clearly a chastity belt as in the scene there's some massive bolt cutters being used to chop it off :)

[Neil]

This film certainly looks mad :)

http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2014/merrick/8knsnij_large.jpg

[EvilNed]

I always figured the fourth Mad Max film would turn out to be shit. So far it looks amazing, tho.

[Neil]

Boo-f***ing-ya!

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Now tell me you didn't feel like doing this?
http://img.pandawhale.com/106848-gladiator-joaquin-phoenix-gif-yqoa.gif

[MinionZombie]

Damn I really hope this flick lives up to the trailers and hype ... it looks "awesome ... totally awesome!"

And yes, I do feel like "going full Joaquin". :D

[shootemindehead]

Sorry lads, this just looks like it completely lacks all of the charm that made the original Mad Max great. 'Mad Max 2' now, not the awful first one.

[MoonSylver]

Boo-f***ing-ya!

:lol: Haven't seen Neil this excited in a while. Oh dear...:sneaky:



Now tell me you didn't feel like doing this?
http://img.pandawhale.com/106848-gladiator-joaquin-phoenix-gif-yqoa.gif

I always feel like doing that. All the time, every day. :lol:


Sorry lads, this just looks like it completely lacks all of the charm that made the original Mad Max great. 'Mad Max 2' now, not the awful first one.

Shootem doesn't like something. I'm surprised.:bored::|:lol:

[Neil]

Booooom!

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[EvilNed]

looks great.

i just rewatched Mad Max 2 and 3 on the big screen.

2 is awesome. 3 is meh. great sets, music, costumes but they really toned down the violence in favor of much more... slapstick.

[MinionZombie]

2 is awesome. 3 is meh. great sets, music, costumes but they really toned down the violence in favor of much more... slapstick.

Apparently #3 didn't even start out as a Mad Max movie, which explains a lot ... yeah, visually strong, but story and action (and violence) wise it's naff.

Apparently Fury Road is akin to Mad Max 2/Road Warrior ... which is music to my ears. :)

[EvilNed]

What's weird about part 3 is that the world itself is rather grim. It features gladiatorial fights, tales of the apocalypse and the underworld set. I wonder - who did they think was gonna both appreciate the grittiness of the world AND the constant slapstick action sequences?

[Neil]

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[Neil]

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[Neil]

Final trailer...

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[Neil]

Reviews seem very +ve - http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Mad-Max-Fury-Road-66583.html


Mad Max: Fury Road is a special film. It’s bombastically entertaining and action packed, but it doesn’t disregard emotion and story; and it’s a fitting follow-up that will make lovers of the Road Warrior giddy. But it’s also entirely accessible to those who have never even heard of the Mel Gibson-starring films. It’s a tremendous cinematic experience courtesy of George Miller, and a must-see.

[MinionZombie]

IGN gave it a 9.2 ... sure, they're not really a film reviewing outfit at all, but they dug it nonetheless.

I'm trying to organise a cinema trip with some mates to see it, but it's like pulling teeth to get any bugger to do anything these days. We'll see...

[EvilNed]

Woah. Saw it Saturday. What a ride. Definetly worth a trip to the cinema.
It's all very practical, with stunts, extensive car chases and beautiful shots. There's little CGI, I counted only very few instances.

Unlike the original films, the movie is very colorful tho. It works, but it doesn't look at all as trashy as the originals - for better or worse.
Apparently, the guy playing the villain is the Toecutter from Mad Max 1.

[Kaos]

I saw it Saturday, and thought it was awesome.

What I found interesting was the the actor that played the main bad guy from Mad Max, Toecutter:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/3/39/Toecutter.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120120151250

played the main bad guy in Fury Road, Immortan Joe:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/8/81/Immortanjoe.png/revision/latest?cb=20141213150228

[Neil]

I saw it Saturday, and thought it was awesome.

What I found interesting was the the actor that played the main bad guy from Mad Max, Toecutter:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/3/39/Toecutter.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120120151250

played the main bad guy in Fury Road, Immortan Joe:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/8/81/Immortanjoe.png/revision/latest?cb=20141213150228

He's aged well!

[krisvds]

What a film. It felt like it belongs to a different era of filmmaking despite the big budget and fast editing (zillions of shots).
The world building, costumes, attention to detail and the will to not use CGI to defy the laws of physics in an action film like this are so unlike anything in the cinema nowadays ...
Never thought I'd write this but the script and they way the characters were portrayed never made me miss Mel, not even for a second.
And then there's the pacing: the film is so relentless, the only thing that comes close as far as I can remember are the first 40 minutes of the second Evil Dead. It's not a rollercoaster ride, it's sitting in a damn rocket being shot into space as far as 'speed' is concerned. That Miller not only managed to smuggle in a lot of subtext (like many great westerns it's also a political allegory) but also kept his focus in the editing room with such long and complicated action scenes is nothing but a triumph. The film uses 'space' so well you'll always know what is going on and who is where doing what in the midst of all the mayhem.

A sequel to beloved genre films, decades after the release of the last one (Phantom Menace, Land of the dead, ...) shouldn't be this good. This one shatters your expectations.
Go see it.

[Neil]

Came out with slightly mixed feelings, most likely because I went in expecting too much on a wave of +ve hype.

First of all, I loved the film. It's bold, different and doesn't give a f*** about beinbg un-PC. Where else have you seen fat ladies being milked?

The action in some sections is practically artwork, and the fact it's being done in the flesh/in the metal, rather than simply using CGI, adds to it.

The only things I had a problem with were:-
1) It didn't seem to illude to an apocalypse as much as it could (should?) have? I would have expected just a few more nods in some fashion to how messed up the world was now. But this is minor.
2) Some plot/emotional elements seemed a little lost. It's almost as if the film has been edited down and some explanations/sections have not reached the screen. The most obvious example of this is Furiosa reaching her old clan/group? (a) They were seemingly only 2-3 days drive away and it took her 20 years to bother to go back? (b) The film tried to evoke some huge emotional dump on the audience when she found out the group/clan were all but gone, but we were given so little information about it, it all felt very very flat (IMHO). A little more back story of what the group was about, and her connection to them, could have meant some emotional connection for the audience...

Any, clunky at times, but ultimately a great visual and action spectical. Here's hoping the next can bring more of the same, and also bring in a little more story/emotional elements too!

8/10!

ps: Some the props/cars were beautiful!



EDIT:-

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/71559/_1432151985.jpg

Have any of you seen the suggestion that we aren't watching Max in this flick but in fact the ferile kid from Mad Max 2 with the boomerang?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mad-Max-Fury-Road-Fan-Theory-Really-Clever-71559.html

Thing is it actually has some legs! I'll swear I saw "Max" holding a boomerang in the movie? And of course that would account for his lack of dialog and unwillingness to say his name?


That said, he does start the film by saying he was a police office and his name is Max?

[krisvds]

2) Some plot/emotional elements seemed a little lost. It's almost as if the film has been edited down and some explanations/sections have not reached the screen. The most obvious example of this is Furiosa reaching her old clan/group? (a) They were seemingly only 2-3 days drive away and it took her 20 years to bother to go back? (b) The film tried to evoke some huge emotional dump on the audience when she found out the group/clan were all but gone, but we were given so little information about it, it all felt very very flat (IMHO). A little more back story of what the group was about, and her connection to them, could have meant some emotional connection for the audience...


while I see what you mean with your 'furiosa's clan was only a 2-3 days drive away ...' argument let's not forget it was a pretty lethal 2-3 days drive away through very hostile terrain. We find out she was abducted by the immortan's tribe when she was a very young child (7000 days ago!) so he could have told her anything about her past when she was growing up. Maybe she only found out recently about her past and this triggered her road to redemption? Also: if I were to drive two to three days straight I'd end up in the south of spain. Not exactly a trip you undertake lightly? Now in a world where I'd be in the employ of an insane and violent dictator and precious little gasoline to go round ... You get what I mean.

Anyways the fact that so little was explained and virtually no one was given a backstory felt very refreshing to me.
Still a bit blown away by it to be honest.

On the Max as the Feral Kid theory? I feel it's a bit pointless to put the Mad Max films on a timeline; to me they are closer to what Sergio Leone did with his 'Dollars' trilogy: there's the recurring mythic figure of a 'man with no name' but storywise there's little to no continuity. It could even be a different 'Max' every film. In the end it doesn't really matter.

[EvilNed]

On the Max as the Feral Kid theory? I feel it's a bit pointless to put the Mad Max films on a timeline; to me they are closer to what Sergio Leone did with his 'Dollars' trilogy: there's the recurring mythic figure of a 'man with no name' but storywise there's little to no continuity. It could even be a different 'Max' every film. In the end it doesn't really matter.

Agreed with this. Especially considering he undergoes the exact same inner journey in the latter three films. He starts out caring only about himself, doing whatever needs to be done to scrape by. Looking out for number one and nobody else. Then he gets beaten, broken or forced into cooperating and in the end he sacrifices himself to let others live.

[Neil]

while I see what you mean with your 'furiosa's clan was only a 2-3 days drive away ...' argument let's not forget it was a pretty lethal 2-3 days drive away through very hostile terrain. We find out she was abducted by the immortan's tribe when she was a very young child (7000 days ago!) so he could have told her anything about her past when she was growing up. Maybe she only found out recently about her past and this triggered her road to redemption? Also: if I were to drive two to three days straight I'd end up in the south of spain. Not exactly a trip you undertake lightly? Now in a world where I'd be in the employ of an insane and violent dictator and precious little gasoline to go round ... You get what I mean.

Anyways the fact that so little was explained and virtually no one was given a backstory felt very refreshing to me.
Still a bit blown away by it to be honest.I'd be very interested to find out there was more explanation there in the script which was cut. ie: There was this big (supposed) emotional moment and because we knew nothing it all felt a little lost IMHO. I actually sort of cringed as the music swelled, and tears flowed, and I sat there thinking, what are we actually supposed to be upset about on her behalf?


the Max as the Feral Kid theory? I feel it's a bit pointless to put the Mad Max films on a timeline; to me they are closer to what Sergio Leone did with his 'Dollars' trilogy: there's the recurring mythic figure of a 'man with no name' but storywise there's little to no continuity. It could even be a different 'Max' every film. In the end it doesn't really matter.I don't think the theory is right, BUT I'll swear Max was holding a boomerang in a scene? If so, a homage (like the music box)? Or a "hint"? :)

Personally I think it just "Max" :)

[rongravy]

What's up with the guitar playing feakazoid?
That was just silly. The rest of the movie was pretty good. Very visually pleasing, though I'm sure it was the bomb at the theater.
I will say I really don't get the hype, though, like it was the best thing since... titties?
I'm down for more, though, don't get me wrong. I thought it was a remake, but I was wrong. I read Hardy is down for a bunch more...

[Neil]

What's up with the guitar playing feakazoid?
That was just silly. The rest of the movie was pretty good. Very visually pleasing, though I'm sure it was the bomb at the theater.
I will say I really don't get the hype, though, like it was the best thing since... titties?
I'm down for more, though, don't get me wrong. I thought it was a remake, but I was wrong. I read Hardy is down for a bunch more...

Yeh, that grated with me too! Especially when (if I recall correctly) for some reason that vehicle was towards the front of the chase? Why?

[shootemindehead]

I presume it was a play on drummer boys and pipers in armies of old. I actually liked the guitar and drummer freaks. It suited the film.

All in all while I thought the film was much better than I reckoned it was going to be, I still prefer 'Mad Max II' and 'Mad Max III'. They feel more post apocalypse. 'Mad Max: Fury Road' looks like it's happening on another planet TBH.

[JDP]

LOL @ all those swallowing the ridiculous claim that this movie uses little CGI. The majority of frames in this movie have in fact been fucked wit..., err, I mean "enhanced with" CGI, thus why its outlandish, unrealistic, surreal and cartoonish look, completely different than the realistic feel and look of the original trilogy, which was 100% shot the old fashioned way, using the real landscapes of Australia and great (and often dangerous) believable stunts perfectly possible by the laws of physics. You can believe in the world of the first three movies. You sure as fuck CAN'T believe the world of Fury Road. The only way this movie could ever have passed muster with critical audiences was if it was the very first movie in the franchise. Then you could accept that in this world the weird and impossible things we see are in fact possible. But with THREE previous movies solidly establishing that the world of Mad Max is just our world, only that things have gone awfully wrong for civilized society and insane violent motorized gangs have been increasingly taking over the land, but everything else remains the same, including how physics works, then there is no way any critical and reasonable viewer can possibly accept this travesty of a film.

And yes, the flame-thrower guitar creep was plain ridiculous, on all levels. This is Miller & company just trying to appeal to the infantile and unrealistic tastes of the "kwel" teens.

This movie was an utter exaggerated and puerile pile of nonsense, a film made with outrageous extravagant impossibilities thrill-seeking younger audiences primarily in mind, nothing to do with the more well-balanced and primarily adult-oriented realistic and believable feel and look of the 3 original movies. Miller is a total sell-out for trying to pass this thing as a "Mad Max" film. He totally threw out the window the more realistic and believable world he built in the first three movies and gave us this ill-conceived and contradictory "bastard child" instead.

[EvilNed]

Apparently George Miller is suing WB for what he thinks is a breach of contract. It's doubtful we'll ever see another one (with Miller at the helm), which is a shame.

[bassman]

As I’ve said before, everyone is of course entitled to their opinion of the film and it’s perfectly fine that you didn’t enjoy it, but some of your claims seem a bit baseless. Others’ comments about the limited use of CGI for stunts are perfectly founded, as not only was the majority of CGI used to change the landscape, but also because there are before and after behind the scenes videos that show EXACTLY what was practical and what was CGI. It’s all laid out perfectly for the viewer to see what changed between principal photography and release.

“The only way this movie could ever have passed muster with critical audiences...” - are you suggesting the film wasn’t well reviewed and received? Fury Road has a 97% critics score on Rotten Tomatoes, an 85% audience score on RT, and a B+ Cinemascore. As with ANY film, there are people that didn’t like it, but the majority of audiences were quite satisfied with the film.

While there’s no real aggregate system for the “made for teens” claim, I personally don’t agree with that assumption. Critics and audiences of all ages, including those that have seen all Max films on the silver screen, have enjoyed the film. With it’s darker apocalyptic tone and restricted rating amongst other things, it doesn’t feel at all directed solely at younger audiences, IMO.

Ned - that would help explain why we haven’t heard news of the sequels in quite a while. Damn shame, indeed.

[JDP]

As I’ve said before, everyone is of course entitled to their opinion of the film and it’s perfectly fine that you didn’t enjoy it, but some of your claims seem a bit baseless. Others’ comments about the limited use of CGI for stunts are perfectly founded, as not only was the majority of CGI used to change the landscape, but also because there are before and after behind the scenes videos that show EXACTLY what was practical and what was CGI. It’s all laid out perfectly for the viewer to see what changed between principal photography and release.

And the difference is easily seen between the before and after. Like I said, the majority of the movie has been altered in one way or another by CGI. That's why it doesn't look like the original trilogy, where no CGI tampering occurred.


“The only way this movie could ever have passed muster with critical audiences...” - are you suggesting the film wasn’t well reviewed and received? Fury Road has a 97% critics score on Rotten Tomatoes, an 85% audience score on RT, and a B+ Cinemascore. As with ANY film, there are people that didn’t like it, but the majority of audiences were quite satisfied with the film.

These days all sorts of crap is given "thumbs up" by these so-called critics, so it doesn't surprise me.


While there’s no real aggregate system for the “made for teens” claim, I personally don’t agree with that assumption. Critics and audiences of all ages, including those that have seen all Max films on the silver screen, have enjoyed the film.

Speak for yourself. Others who have also seen the original trilogy have blasted Fury Road, and rightly so.


With it’s darker apocalyptic tone and restricted rating amongst other things, it doesn’t feel at all directed solely at younger audiences, IMO.

Not solely, but certainly primarily. That's why this film is childish and overtly exaggerated, unlike the other ones (specially the first two.) Younger audiences tend to go for this kind of over-the-top outrageous action. More mature audiences enjoy the more realistic feel of the original movies. I can easily believe a scenario like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBCpa_CiWsI

It looks real, it feels real... shit, could it maybe, just maybe, be because IT IS FUCKING REAL??? Yes, yes, I think so!

But I sure as fuck CANNOT believe this pile of PURE UTTER UNREALISTIC BULLSHIT:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bZYdfvmBk


that would help explain why we haven’t heard news of the sequels in quite a while.

And if they are in the same vein as Fury Road, good riddance, I say!

[bassman]

And the difference is easily seen between the before and after. Like I said, the majority of the movie has been altered in one way or another by CGI. That's why it doesn't look like the original trilogy, where no CGI tampering occurred.

Fair enough regarding your thoughts on the overall look of the film. My point was more that the stunts were performed practically, for the most part.



These days all sorts of crap is given "thumbs up" by these so-called critics, so it doesn't surprise me.

True, but two of those three statistics are aggregated audience reactions rather than critics.



Speak for yourself. Others who have also seen the original trilogy have blasted Fury Road, and rightly so.

I was indeed speaking for myself at the portion where I used “personally”, but the fact that a majority of audiences, including older viewers, enjoyed the film was taken from those same aggregated audience member reviews/reactions that are available online, not my own opinion.

[JDP]

↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ "aggregated audience reactions" includes the millions of "kwel!" tweens/teens/twenteens which this movie was primarily designed for. My point exactly.

[bassman]

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[EvilNed]

I'm a huge fan of the Mad Max trilogy. I grew up on it. I hold it higher than Star Wars, for instance. I love this new installment. Is it something else? Yeah, it's much more action packed, intense and stressful for one. There's not much in the ways of plot. But it's a perfect update.

I rewatched the original three fairly recently, in the cinema no less. I think number 3 is the weakest one. Compare it to two. Roadwarrior is rather uncompromising and violent. Several bit parts get killed during the final showdown in rather inglorious ways. Shot in the back, skull crushed or whatever. As for Thunderdome... Apart from Blaster, can you recollect any single person getting killed in that film? There's a good here and there who get's thrown off a car, but that's about it. It's very americanized.

Fury Road on the other hand is back to the rather unforgiving violence of Mad Max 1 and 2.

[MinionZombie]

On appealing to teenies...

Mad Max 1 & 2 - Rated R.
Mad Max 3 ... PG-13. :rockbrow:
Fury Road - Rated R.

One of these things is not like the other.

On popularity...

Even the ruddy Oscars loved it, and we all know how stuffy they are. Six Oscar wins from ten nominations. Then in terms of box office Fury Road is by far the most successful of the series (and that's with figures adjusted for inflation). The gap to second place is $71m.

[bassman]

Hey now....I can’t abide all this slacking-off of the cinematic classic known as...

”THUNDADOME!!!!!”
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/6/6d/Master_Blaster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150715152956

:p

It’s without a doubt the weakest of the series, but damn if I don’t love it...

[blind2d]

And the difference is easily seen between the before and after. Like I said, the majority of the movie has been altered in one way or another by CGI. That's why it doesn't look like the original trilogy, where no CGI tampering occurred.



These days all sorts of crap is given "thumbs up" by these so-called critics, so it doesn't surprise me.



Speak for yourself. Others who have also seen the original trilogy have blasted Fury Road, and rightly so.



Not solely, but certainly primarily. That's why this film is childish and overtly exaggerated, unlike the other ones (specially the first two.) Younger audiences tend to go for this kind of over-the-top outrageous action. More mature audiences enjoy the more realistic feel of the original movies. I can easily believe a scenario like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBCpa_CiWsI

It looks real, it feels real... shit, could it maybe, just maybe, be because IT IS FUCKING REAL??? Yes, yes, I think so!

But I sure as fuck CANNOT believe this pile of PURE UTTER UNREALISTIC BULLSHIT:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bZYdfvmBk



And if they are in the same vein as Fury Road, good riddance, I say!

So I watched those two links you put up for the videos (embeds, they're embeds!) and... Okay? The first one was more "realistic", but you know what? It's a movie. It doesn't have to be realistic to make sense, or to be entertaining, or to have a good message. Or to tell a good story! Not sure why you're so invested in limiting creative expression. If I'm going to watch a movie about vehicular manslaughter and dystopian outlaw hijinks, I'd rather the people behind it had some fun. Which they clearly did with Fury Road. (Oh, my apologies, 'Puny Road'... You actually called it that. Wow) Now of course you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't expect to change your mind, but... I'll always give the film a 9.5/10, and you can't change that, so stay mad? I'm sure you'll attribute it to just me being "young" or whatever, and maybe there's some truth to that. But I hope I retain more of my imagination than you seem to have when I reach your age, is all I can say.

[bassman]

After all this talk of Fury Road, I decided to revisit the film for the first time in a few years. I still thoroughly enjoyed it! It’s probably one of the greatest action films of the last ten to fifteen years, up there with the John Wick films. Miller’s frenetic shooting and editing goes a long way to ratcheting up the edge-of-your-seat tension throughout. All while generally avoiding the trends of shakey-cam. It’s easy to see why the actors were concerned during filming, but then later apologized to Miller when they saw the finished product.

I feel like this film does a great job of referencing and catching up the audience on the story of Max from the previous films. It’s reminiscent of what Romero tried to do at the beginning of Land, only it’s executed in a more satisfying way here.

After viewing I looked up the facts and trivia, something I often do with films, and was surprised to see that the film features a couple daughters of music royalty in Zoe Kravitz(Lenny Kravitz) and Riley Keough(Lisa Marie Prestley - Elvis). It means nothing to the film, just a piece of trivia I found interesting.

I love it, so count me in as a “kwel teen” in his thirties! :rolleyes::duh:

[MinionZombie]

One of the interesting things I remember Miller talking about in regards to Fury Road was how he looked at silent cinema, so the visual language of the film is actually inspired by the oldest era of cinema!

Further to that, there was an interesting mash-up of that most-heard piece of music from Fury Road and a scene from Buster Keaton's "The General".

Fm0e_BZQpsE

In terms of the look of the films, the first flick is the one that looks the most odd considering they're all supposed to be "post-apocalyptic". The original film, naturally, was a low budget genre flick so there's only so much you can actually achieve (and back in the days of having to get it all 'in camera'). Miller just had to find deserted/empty/open locations in Australia - but with special effects being limited at the time (not to mention budgetary limitations), the sense of 'apocalypse' is very limited in the original movie. Sure, perhaps it's the beginning of something, but it wasn't until we got to The Road Warrior that it felt like what Miller was always going for visually (#2 is visually quite different from #1).

Naturally, with Fury Road being made a long time after the third movie, how cinema is made had moved on an awful lot - CGI being the big contributor - but also in terms of the tools of filmmaking (stunt techniques, camera rigs etc). We've already established that the stunts in Fury Road were done practical with CGI marrying different plates so you can pull off a stunt safely that would otherwise be too dangerous by breaking it down into pieces and stitching it together later. The bulk of the CGI in the movie is rendering the world around them (with, it should be noted, a lot of colour correction going on to boot, e.g. the very deep blue night scenes) and yeah, I get that it looks different, but the whole franchise looks different from one movie to the next. There's not an awful lot of consistency. The third movie feels more like a Hollywood music video when compared to the gritty Australian toughess of The Road Warrior, which in-turn looked much different from the clean roads and green pastures of the first movie. In some ways the first Mad Max feels more like A Clockwork Orange (our world but with an ultra violent criminal twist), whereas The Road Warrior is another world entirely.

[JDP]

On appealing to teenies...

Mad Max 1 & 2 - Rated R.
Mad Max 3 ... PG-13. :rockbrow:
Fury Road - Rated R.

One of these things is not like the other.

I already said that Thunderdome was in fact the first one to try to also appeal to younger audiences. That is obvious from the movie itself. But still, totally shot the old-fashioned way, and nowhere nearly as exaggerated and outlandish as Fury Road. This movie in fact took that appeal to the younger crowds to the next level. But you can still believe the world of Thunderdome. Not so with Fury Road.


On popularity...

Even the ruddy Oscars loved it, and we all know how stuffy they are. Six Oscar wins from ten nominations. Then in terms of box office Fury Road is by far the most successful of the series (and that's with figures adjusted for inflation). The gap to second place is $71m.

That's not any "badge of honor" in this case, but in fact a tell-tale sign of how much of a sell-out Miller has become. He is catering to the Hollywood crowd, which in turn just loves to cater to the tweens/teens/twenteens. They mean big bucks to these people. So my point exactly... again!

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So I watched those two links you put up for the videos (embeds, they're embeds!) and... Okay? The first one was more "realistic", but you know what? It's a movie. It doesn't have to be realistic to make sense, or to be entertaining, or to have a good message. Or to tell a good story! Not sure why you're so invested in limiting creative expression. If I'm going to watch a movie about vehicular manslaughter and dystopian outlaw hijinks, I'd rather the people behind it had some fun. Which they clearly did with Fury Road. (Oh, my apologies, 'Puny Road'... You actually called it that. Wow) Now of course you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't expect to change your mind, but... I'll always give the film a 9.5/10, and you can't change that, so stay mad? I'm sure you'll attribute it to just me being "young" or whatever, and maybe there's some truth to that. But I hope I retain more of my imagination than you seem to have when I reach your age, is all I can say.

Like I implied many times before, I wouldn't have had much of an issue with Fury Road if it was not a Mad Max film, or if it had been the first installment in the series. But it is not. There's no less than THREE previous Mad Max movies that established certain things that set it apart from the strange world of Fury Road. As such, then, Fury Road is simply unacceptable.

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After all this talk of Fury Road, I decided to revisit the film for the first time in a few years. I still thoroughly enjoyed it! It’s probably one of the greatest action films of the last ten to fifteen years, up there with the John Wick films. Miller’s frenetic shooting and editing goes a long way to ratcheting up the edge-of-your-seat tension throughout. All while generally avoiding the trends of shakey-cam. It’s easy to see why the actors were concerned during filming, but then later apologized to Miller when they saw the finished product.

I feel like this film does a great job of referencing and catching up the audience on the story of Max from the previous films. It’s reminiscent of what Romero tried to do at the beginning of Land, only it’s executed in a more satisfying way here.

After viewing I looked up the facts and trivia, something I often do with films, and was surprised to see that the film features a couple daughters of music royalty in Zoe Kravitz(Lenny Kravitz) and Riley Keough(Lisa Marie Prestley - Elvis). It means nothing to the film, just a piece of trivia I found interesting.

I love it, so count me in as a “kwel teen” in his thirties! :rolleyes::duh:

If you still don't get the point of how utterly different and disconnected from the previous Mad Max films this unrealistic travesty known as "Fury Road" is, I really can't help you. Nobody can. Consider yourself in fact what you just said: a "thirtween" :elol:

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One of the interesting things I remember Miller talking about in regards to Fury Road was how he looked at silent cinema, so the visual language of the film is actually inspired by the oldest era of cinema!

Further to that, there was an interesting mash-up of that most-heard piece of music from Fury Road and a scene from Buster Keaton's "The General".

Fm0e_BZQpsE

In terms of the look of the films, the first flick is the one that looks the most odd considering they're all supposed to be "post-apocalyptic". The original film, naturally, was a low budget genre flick so there's only so much you can actually achieve (and back in the days of having to get it all 'in camera'). Miller just had to find deserted/empty/open locations in Australia - but with special effects being limited at the time (not to mention budgetary limitations), the sense of 'apocalypse' is very limited in the original movie. Sure, perhaps it's the beginning of something, but it wasn't until we got to The Road Warrior that it felt like what Miller was always going for visually (#2 is visually quite different from #1).

Naturally, with Fury Road being made a long time after the third movie, how cinema is made had moved on an awful lot - CGI being the big contributor - but also in terms of the tools of filmmaking (stunt techniques, camera rigs etc). We've already established that the stunts in Fury Road were done practical with CGI marrying different plates so you can pull off a stunt safely that would otherwise be too dangerous by breaking it down into pieces and stitching it together later. The bulk of the CGI in the movie is rendering the world around them (with, it should be noted, a lot of colour correction going on to boot, e.g. the very deep blue night scenes) and yeah, I get that it looks different, but the whole franchise looks different from one movie to the next. There's not an awful lot of consistency. The third movie feels more like a Hollywood music video when compared to the gritty Australian toughess of The Road Warrior, which in-turn looked much different from the clean roads and green pastures of the first movie. In some ways the first Mad Max feels more like A Clockwork Orange (our world but with an ultra violent criminal twist), whereas The Road Warrior is another world entirely.

There is nothing in the first movie that says there's been any "apocalypse". This theme was introduced in the second movie. What we witness in the first film is a world where organized civilized society is still around, but is having a heck of a difficult time trying to control gangs who go around plundering, terrorizing the population and murdering people, including law officers (The Nightrider himself is a cop-killer on the run, for example, and who obviously has connections with Toecutter's gang.) Civilized society gradually losing it to these armies of motorized bandits. We see how this situation ends up affecting and totally changing the life of one particular cop: Max Rockatansky. This is the subject of the first film.

So, there is a perfectly good reason why the first film looks different in that sense than the other two, which are post-apocalypse. But aside from that, they are the exact same world, and the movies are all shot in the old-fashioned way, with great believable stunts and the real landscapes of Australia, thus why they look realistic and believable. Fury Road, on the other hand... looks like something straight out of a video game or comic book. This is NOT our world but some other planet or universe.

[bassman]

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[EvilNed]

In terms of the look of the films, the first flick is the one that looks the most odd considering they're all supposed to be "post-apocalyptic". The original film, naturally, was a low budget genre flick so there's only so much you can actually achieve (and back in the days of having to get it all 'in camera'). Miller just had to find deserted/empty/open locations in Australia - but with special effects being limited at the time (not to mention budgetary limitations), the sense of 'apocalypse' is very limited in the original movie. Sure, perhaps it's the beginning of something, but it wasn't until we got to The Road Warrior that it felt like what Miller was always going for visually (#2 is visually quite different from #1).


It is a misconception that the first film is set in a post-apocalyptic world. It's not. It's set in a world where laws and society are beginning to crumble. Thus it's not really supposed to look deserted, and that's not the story it's trying to tell. In many ways that's why I find it the bleakest of the four. It's not set after a nuclear holocaust, it's just set in a society which is slowly starting to break down.

[bassman]

After giving Fury Road a spin earlier, I decided to also revisit Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome. As I was reading up on the third film, I came across the info that the producer of the film was Miller’s close friend and after he died in a helicopter accident working on the film, Miller basically “checked out” and lost interest in it. I guess that goes a long way in helping to explain why it’s the weakest of the series and why Miller only directed portions of it. He mostly handled the action and handed everything else to another director. I never even realized there were two directors on the film until today...

[Neil]

^ Interesting!

[bassman]

It looks like there’s a chance that Warner Brothers has settled, or will soon settle, with George Miller, as the head of WB recently dropped this tidbit in an interview:


“We have incredible franchises on the features side such as The Matrix. We’d love to work with George Miller on furthering the Mad Max franchise.”

So perhaps Miller can squeeze in Mad Max: The Wasteland before fully retiring and handing the reigns to someone else?

[JDP]

↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ Hopefully not. Enough damage to the "cred" of Mad Max has already been done with Miller's last "effort"

[bassman]

Glad that’s been cleared up. The dissenting opinion hadn’t yet been properly expressed.

[blind2d]

Glad that’s been cleared up. The dissenting opinion hadn’t yet been properly expressed.

LOL!! I love you, bass! :D :lol: :thumbsup: :deadhorse: