Theory on why people are so mad at non-GAR NOTLD sequels

[Geophyrd]

Gonna get burned for this observation, so I'm ready for it. Just keep in mind that I'm describing myself even if I use the word you. If I'm not describing you, well, that's ok. This is an observation I'm making on a slow day at work...

Recently, I went back on this site and reread all the invective for Land of the Dead, the Dawn of the Dead remake as well as the upcoming (with Ving) Day of the Dead. I've been trying to figure out why people hated them so much.

I mean, Dawn remake was actually really good. If it had a different title, someone might have cried foul ('Its really a lot like Dawn of the Dead!') but we would all have pretty much accepted it and loved it for what it was. Fun and tittilating. Didn't we all wind up digging 28 Weeks Later, even if it wasn't a zombie movie? Isn't that why Stephen King's book Cell is being prepped to be a movie? (probably on ABC, starring Steven Weber acting badly with subpar special effects puncuated with Mick Garris tossing blood around)

Land of the Dead was good, even if it wasn't brilliant. I do want to know where Dead Reckoning is going (and also what good money is in a dead world) and what happens to Riley. Seeing some more Asia Argento would be pretty alright in my book too.

So why do people hate it so much? Why do much bitterness towards both Day (non-GAR) and LOTD2 (with GAR?). I mean, after all, would you rather watch a good (even if not great) Land of the Dead or a couple of Uwe Bowe movies?

The only reason I can imagine for the bitterness is that we watched GAR's movie at a specific time and place and they delighted us. To mess with the memory is to invalidate something cool from back when. Its easier to dis current efforts (by GAR and others) than it is to re-evaluate past memories. Some of those past memories weren't always great even if we remember that they were. I'm not sure if I loved Dawn of the Dead because it was great or because it was great to a twelve year old who was seeing it for the first time.

Given GAR and the others their due. They're making pretty good flicks and no only do you get to keep your memories but you can actually watch the dvds of the actual movies.

If you're not sure what I'm talking about, how many times did you put on a movie you liked years ago and then wonder how in heck you ever liked it? Same thing.

[bassman]

Good post....

You were comparing "Dawn04" to "28 Days Later". The difference is that "28DL" had a good script and characters you care about. "Dawn04"....not at all. You're right...."Dawn04" can be entertaining in the thoughtless running action kinda way. But that's it. It has no meaning or thought put into it at all.

As far as what you said about "Land"....I agree. I've been one of the ones that enjoyed it from the beginning and alot of people automatically claim that we only like it because it's Romero's. I think you put it best....it's good but not great. Definitely better than most these days. It's good in it's own right.


If you're not sure what I'm talking about, how many times did you put on a movie you liked years ago and then wonder how in heck you ever liked it? Same thing.

Generally, this is not the case for me. As a younger lad, I really enjoyed the "Ghostbusters" films(and I mean REALLY), but to this day I still enjoy them and laugh my a** off everytime I watch them. There are other examples too, but this one just popped to mind.

I honestly can't think of a film that I used to enjoy and now don't....

[Danny]

well dawn sucked becuase the writing was bad, there was random character development for no reason, zombies didnt seem to be nothing more than a latent threat.
28 days later is infinitley better than yawn 04 becuase .the writing rocked, the acting rocked, the cinematography rocked, AKA - its better.:rolleyes:

i liked land but compared to the origional trilogy which was done by a small group ,self budgeted it meant romero had freee reign on creativity , but land was pure hollywood, cgi, and producers screweing with rokmeros origional idea "well if we lose zombie rats we can lower the rating for more moolah".

and people dont like day becuase of contagion, and i dont know but if its anothe uwe boll film like i heard then its 100% gonna gobble goat balls, becuase uwe boll CANNOT direct films hes a hack with less talent than a prono director:moon:

[DjfunkmasterG]

I think Geo is very well spoken on this, as is Bassman311.

There are many movies I watched as a youngin that still tickle me pink today. He noted Ghostbusters... For me it is GB along with Weird Science, and Sixteen Candles, not too mention Beverly Hills Cop and Caddyshack.

However, The memories of the GAR movies stem much further than something cool when I first saw them. Even though I had seen DAWN at a very young age and thought zombies were neat/cool. As I got older I started seeing the subtext behind those films, and they became classics and masterpieces of their time... Hell DAWN is still a masterpiece in cinema in my book, not bad for a 20+ year old film.

LAND although not as horrible as House of the Dead still is subpar on many levels, one being the story. Nothing will ever change my mind on that... it doesn't feel like a GAR film, doesn't look like a GAR film, although it is a GAR film. Will it turn me off from future zombie movies he does... NOPE. I still think the man has one Masterpiece of zombie mayhem left inside of him and I do hope I get to see it very very soon. I believe everyone deserves a second chance and he has brought me 3 great zombie films in the past, so one flubbed film doesn't turn me off completely.

28 Days Later is just awesome because it grasped onto and held the type of filmmaking GAR used to do. If you watch 28 Days Later you feel like you're watching a Romero zombie film, but it isn't Romero. Dawn of the Dead 2004 is nothing Romero and it never intended to be... As I have stated many times, like Zack Snyder said "it is just another chapter in a book called DAWN of the DEAD" and I agree with this. It doesn't tread on the original, or degrade it in anyway... plus it is extremely entertaining.

A lot of the loathing for DAWN 04 stems from the name and name only. I wish people would just see it for what it really is, a kick arse zombie flick.

[coma]

A lot of the loathing for DAWN 04 stems from the name and name only. I wish people would just see it for what it really is, a kick arse zombie flick.

I thought I was swimming in a plot hole when I saw it. It was entertaing, but as it progressed I felt like I was watching a movie, rather than "in the movie".
The name raised expectations, but the makers of Scooby Doo didn't have me in much anticipation of quality, so it was better than I expected.. I don't like bad writing and bad characters. Call it some thing different and I would still feel the same way. Its "OK'. And that's all. Action alone doesn't make a film kick ass to me. There's gotta be more. That scene with the shootout over the dead baby was dopey as hell with a sterotype character.It;s like they wrote a script and realized there were no characters, so they went back and pasted some archetypical cliches over them. This was a big budget movie, not some 20 grand video backyard epic. Expectations should be higher.
My accesement. Missed the point of the source material. Many of the action setups made no sense. Writer doesn't know squat about writing. But it was fun, if you can ignore the crap. and I'm never gonna change my mind!!!:D

It didn't suckas bad as the Planet Of the Apes remake, though. Whatta stinker.

It's like 28 days later is Art. It expects alot from you and treats you like you are worth talking up to. while DOTD04 is commerce. Talks down because you won't/can't notice and besides, they already got your 10 bucks.

[bassman]

It didn't suckas bad as the Planet Of the Apes remake, though. Whatta stinker.


I liked the "Planet of the Apes" remake. It was nothing compared to the original(obviously), but I still felt like Burton did a decent job. I would have liked a different lead man rather than Mark E. Mark....but....it was okay.

Burton needs to lay off the remakes and get back to his roots, though. I'm still praying for a "Beetlejuice 2".:D

[DjfunkmasterG]

The POTA remake isn't that bad. It has Tim Roth, and Helena Bonham Carter, both talented actors. It is just very different from what people expected.

[coma]

The POTA remake was more like the book "Mokney Planet"m but I was really dissapointed and hated the end. I don't think MarkyMark was the problem. It's Burton. He's made a feww of my most loved movies, and my most hated. And I will never forgive him for his gay ass BAtman

And no matter how I gripe about DOTD04, I will still see A Day remake. I can't help it. Probably 1st day too.
what I'm really into seeing in NOTLD 3D, but I can't see out of 1 eye too good, so it may be a headache fest and have to wait for DVD. ARRG.
I think the NOTLD3D loks really good.Even if it sucks , I'll see it at least twice.:rolleyes:

[bassman]

And I will never forgive him for his gay ass BAtman


And after that comment.....your opinions now mean nothing:p





Just a joke.....don't take it personally. No really, "Batman" was great.....

[coma]

And after that comment.....your opinions now mean nothing:p





Just a joke.....don't take it personally. No really, "Batman" was great.....
No it wasn't. You suck dude. You're wrong and I'm right because I am awesome.
Awesome!


:p


I like Burtons original work almost every time (maybe every time) and I love Ed Wood. But when he remakes something I get ill.
P.S. Batman sucked :)

[zombievsshark]

Here's what makes me want to violently hate NOTLD3D

in the trailer...zombie Johnny TEXT MESSAGES Barbara the infamous line.

I...I just don't need such drek in my zombie film...god.

he even uses numbers instead of words like '2' instead of 'to'

[OddDNA]

Here's what makes me want to violently hate NOTLD3D

in the trailer...zombie Johnny TEXT MESSAGES Barbara the infamous line.

I...I just don't need such drek in my zombie film...god.

he even uses numbers instead of words like '2' instead of 'to'


What manner of "yes-man" agreed that this was a clever idea.

[Danny]

I like Burtons original work almost every time (maybe every time) and I love Ed Wood. But when he remakes something I get ill.
P.S. Batman sucked :)

dude no, just no. jack nickleson rocked as the joker!:cool:

[bassman]

dude no, just no. jack nickleson rocked as the joker!:cool:

He's got a point. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it "sucked", but after buying the new special edition DVD and watching it for the first time in a long time.....it's not quite as good as I remember it.

You're right....Nicholson kicked a** as the Joker(Keaton did a great job as Wayne/Batman, as well) but the film as a whole.....should've been handled a little differently.

I have lost alot of respect for Tim Burton over the years, but "Batman" is still a decent film that just needed a little bit more. "Batman Begins" has definitely taken the taco for the title of "Best Batman Flick", in my opinion.

[coma]

dude no, just no. jack nickleson rocked as the joker!:cool:
No dude, YOU"RE wrong. I am right. Right. Right .Right.
You will bow to my superior taste
Kneel Before ZOD
:D
I thought "jack in joker makeup with a dumass smile"
Plus I saw it when I was 22, so it wasn't some movie I saw when I was 6 so I have no childhood memories of it. I grew up on Neil Adams/Denny O'NEil Batman and Love Dark Knight Returns. The Hype was the dark Batman come
to life, and it was like a celebrity lovefest with campy elements. It looked so cool on the TV commercial and the reality was different. I'm glad Batman Begins was made so I can watch am excellent adaptation. When I saw Burtons BAtman I was kinda bored and a bit angry through it. I expected something on a par with Superman 1,2 and got something just OK. My feelings are similar to those that dislike Dawn 04 (though it was a million times better than Dawn04)


He's got a point. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it "sucked", but after buying the new special edition DVD and watching it for the first time in a long time.....it's not quite as good as I remember it.

You're right....Nicholson kicked a** as the Joker(Keaton did a great job as Wayne/Batman, as well) but the film as a whole.....should've been handled a little differently.

I have lost alot of respect for Tim Burton over the years, but "Batman" is still a decent film that just needed a little bit more. "Batman Begins" has definitely taken the taco for the title of "Best Batman Flick", in my opinion.

Pretty much how I feel (except for Jack)
Batman Begins is the geek gift I waited like 35 years for.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Here's what makes me want to violently hate NOTLD3D

in the trailer...zombie Johnny TEXT MESSAGES Barbara the infamous line.

I...I just don't need such drek in my zombie film...god.

he even uses numbers instead of words like '2' instead of 'to'


Well some cell phones are limited to the # of text you can put into TEXT messages... so them using "Coming 4 U Barb" is no big deal to me. I know the technology and I can see around that... Also, if that is your only complaint... it is a very weak one.

had you said it looks hokey and deviates way too much from NOTLD I would have said... yes I agree, and the re-casting of Ben as a young White teenager is Blasphemous.

[LS]

dawn o4 was pretty damn good. only thing that got to me was the running thing. ZOMBIES CAN RUN? LOL

land of the dead..myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy god was a terrible movie... this coming from some who's such a die hard zombie movie fan that i only move to places i can easily defense or escape from in case of zombie attack...i gotta tell you that movie WAS TOTAL CRAP i own every zombie movie most can think of..but i won't buy that one even if its at target for 9 bucks (and thats saying a lot!)

i've debate this with so many people..but

ZOMBIES CAN THINK? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


god damn what a terrible movie...i still can't get over the end...looooooooooooooooooooooool...that's pretty much my response..because what insulted me as a lover of these movies is that romero just thought that..hey in the middle of it all i'll just give zombies a brain and some thoughts to! totally remake the whole idea of zombies..well because i can.

i was told that he remade land of the dead because someone else had started to make it or was gonna make it and good old georgey thought..it was crap and choose to do one himself.....my my my....his age sure is showing.

again.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ool

let me get this straight for you who don't know this or haven't read the zombie survival guide.

ZOMBIES DON'T HAVE BRAINS THEY CAN'T THINK AND THEY SURE IN THE HELL DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

as for 28 days later.

something tells me you all have to be brits because even thou that movie was so so-it sure in the hell wasn't close to being as good as dawn 04...not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close matter of factly it lacked so much -STARTING WITH REAL ZOMBIE ACTION AND REAL ACTION PERIOD. oh i loved how they managed to out smart a bunch of trained soliders by simply laying down on the dead bodies (yes thats sarcasm)...i loved when a drop of blood easily falls from a dead body into some dudes eye...lol....seriously i can't stop laughing.

hell the orignal dawn of the dead in all its cheesyness EATS UP 28 DAYS.

the brits always try to use logical thinking and crap like that in these kinds of movies..its almost as if they are trying to make out like some how they are more logical and will think straight in these kinds of situations.

again

looooooooooooooooooool.

i won't even comment on saun of the dead. but i will say this the best part of that movie was the joke about them walking down the street pretending to be zombies. but that movie should have went straight to dvd.

dawn 04 was brilliant. character development? yes we'll see lots of that in A MOVIE WHO'S UNDERLINE THEME (IN CASE YOU ALL MISSED IT) WAS THAT THE END OF THE WORLD IS HAPPENING AND NO ONES GONNA SURVIVE. the whole point of these movies is - how will society break down-and you want character development

i dont mean to insult anyone but COOOOOOOOOOME ON

stop trying to be snobs. because thats what i feel SOME OF YOU are doing.
i dont care if you make movies i don't care if you are into movies i don't care if you are an aspiring director...but what i do care about is some of you fools going into these fields THINKING YOU CAN REWRITE THE OBVIOUS. some of you think you know better but i get a strange feeling that you hardly know what the zombie movies are all about. when i see crappy movies...i guess i know who i should blame eh?

but those are my two thoughts and i'd glady talk more on them

again

zombies can think

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i have no response to that..i'm still dazed at that...i really have no response...

and no dead decomposing flesh CAN'T EVOLVE. especially when THEY HAVE NO BRAINS.

[coma]

There are so many wierd things on that post I couldn't know where to start
But I guess your entitled to your opinion
My opion is There is nothing Cheesy about Dawn of the Dead
But your post.....
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oolloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo oolloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo oolloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo ool
?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[bassman]

dawn o4 was pretty damn good. only thing that got to me was the running thing. ZOMBIES CAN RUN? LOL

land of the dead..myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy god was a terrible movie... this coming from some who's such a die hard zombie movie fan that i only move to places i can easily defense or escape from in case of zombie attack...i gotta tell you that movie WAS TOTAL CRAP i own every zombie movie most can think of..but i won't buy that one even if its at target for 9 bucks (and thats saying a lot!)

i've debate this with so many people..but

ZOMBIES CAN THINK? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


god damn what a terrible movie...i still can't get over the end...looooooooooooooooooooooool...that's pretty much my response..because what insulted me as a lover of these movies is that romero just thought that..hey in the middle of it all i'll just give zombies a brain and some thoughts to! totally remake the whole idea of zombies..well because i can.

i was told that he remade land of the dead because someone else had started to make it or was gonna make it and good old georgey thought..it was crap and choose to do one himself.....my my my....his age sure is showing.

again.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ool

let me get this straight for you who don't know this or haven't read the zombie survival guide.

ZOMBIES DON'T HAVE BRAINS THEY CAN'T THINK AND THEY SURE IN THE HELL DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

as for 28 days later.

something tells me you all have to be brits because even thou that movie was so so-it sure in the hell wasn't close to being as good as dawn 04...not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close matter of factly it lacked so much -STARTING WITH REAL ZOMBIE ACTION AND REAL ACTION PERIOD. oh i loved how they managed to out smart a bunch of trained soliders by simply laying down on the dead bodies (yes thats sarcasm)...i loved when a drop of blood easily falls from a dead body into some dudes eye...lol....seriously i can't stop laughing.

hell the orignal dawn of the dead in all its cheesyness EATS UP 28 DAYS.

the brits always try to use logical thinking and crap like that in these kinds of movies..its almost as if they are trying to make out like some how they are more logical and will think straight in these kinds of situations.

again

looooooooooooooooooool.

i won't even comment on saun of the dead. but i will say this the best part of that movie was the joke about them walking down the street pretending to be zombies. but that movie should have went straight to dvd.

dawn 04 was brilliant. character development? yes we'll see lots of that in A MOVIE WHO'S UNDERLINE THEME (IN CASE YOU ALL MISSED IT) WAS THAT THE END OF THE WORLD IS HAPPENING AND NO ONES GONNA SURVIVE. the whole point of these movies is - how will society break down-and you want character development

i dont mean to insult anyone but COOOOOOOOOOME ON

stop trying to be snobs. because thats what i feel SOME OF YOU are doing.
i dont care if you make movies i don't care if you are into movies i don't care if you are an aspiring director...but what i do care about is some of you fools going into these fields THINKING YOU CAN REWRITE THE OBVIOUS. some of you think you know better but i get a strange feeling that you hardly know what the zombie movies are all about. when i see crappy movies...i guess i know who i should blame eh?

but those are my two thoughts and i'd glady talk more on them

again

zombies can think

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i have no response to that..i'm still dazed at that...i really have no response...

and no dead decomposing flesh CAN'T EVOLVE. especially when THEY HAVE NO BRAINS.

I usually try to be polite to most around here....especially the new guys. But I just can't hold back on this one. You are definitely a childish moron....

[Adrenochrome]

I usually try to be polite to most around here....especially the new guys. But I just can't hold back on this one. You are definitely a childish moron....
ditto

[zombievsshark]

Well some cell phones are limited to the # of text you can put into TEXT messages... so them using "Coming 4 U Barb" is no big deal to me. I know the technology and I can see around that... Also, if that is your only complaint... it is a very weak one.

had you said it looks hokey and deviates way too much from NOTLD I would have said... yes I agree, and the re-casting of Ben as a young White teenager is Blasphemous.
I think the whole idea of a zombie knowing textspeak is just as hokey as a zombie that can use a cell phone in the first place


dawn o4 was pretty damn good. only thing that got to me was the running thing. ZOMBIES CAN RUN? LOL

land of the dead..myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy god was a terrible movie... this coming from some who's such a die hard zombie movie fan that i only move to places i can easily defense or escape from in case of zombie attack...i gotta tell you that movie WAS TOTAL CRAP i own every zombie movie most can think of..but i won't buy that one even if its at target for 9 bucks (and thats saying a lot!)

i've debate this with so many people..but

ZOMBIES CAN THINK? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


god damn what a terrible movie...i still can't get over the end...looooooooooooooooooooooool...that's pretty much my response..because what insulted me as a lover of these movies is that romero just thought that..hey in the middle of it all i'll just give zombies a brain and some thoughts to! totally remake the whole idea of zombies..well because i can.

i was told that he remade land of the dead because someone else had started to make it or was gonna make it and good old georgey thought..it was crap and choose to do one himself.....my my my....his age sure is showing.

again.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ool

let me get this straight for you who don't know this or haven't read the zombie survival guide.

ZOMBIES DON'T HAVE BRAINS THEY CAN'T THINK AND THEY SURE IN THE HELL DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

as for 28 days later.

something tells me you all have to be brits because even thou that movie was so so-it sure in the hell wasn't close to being as good as dawn 04...not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close matter of factly it lacked so much -STARTING WITH REAL ZOMBIE ACTION AND REAL ACTION PERIOD. oh i loved how they managed to out smart a bunch of trained soliders by simply laying down on the dead bodies (yes thats sarcasm)...i loved when a drop of blood easily falls from a dead body into some dudes eye...lol....seriously i can't stop laughing.

hell the orignal dawn of the dead in all its cheesyness EATS UP 28 DAYS.

the brits always try to use logical thinking and crap like that in these kinds of movies..its almost as if they are trying to make out like some how they are more logical and will think straight in these kinds of situations.

again

looooooooooooooooooool.

i won't even comment on saun of the dead. but i will say this the best part of that movie was the joke about them walking down the street pretending to be zombies. but that movie should have went straight to dvd.

dawn 04 was brilliant. character development? yes we'll see lots of that in A MOVIE WHO'S UNDERLINE THEME (IN CASE YOU ALL MISSED IT) WAS THAT THE END OF THE WORLD IS HAPPENING AND NO ONES GONNA SURVIVE. the whole point of these movies is - how will society break down-and you want character development

i dont mean to insult anyone but COOOOOOOOOOME ON

stop trying to be snobs. because thats what i feel SOME OF YOU are doing.
i dont care if you make movies i don't care if you are into movies i don't care if you are an aspiring director...but what i do care about is some of you fools going into these fields THINKING YOU CAN REWRITE THE OBVIOUS. some of you think you know better but i get a strange feeling that you hardly know what the zombie movies are all about. when i see crappy movies...i guess i know who i should blame eh?

but those are my two thoughts and i'd glady talk more on them

again

zombies can think

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i have no response to that..i'm still dazed at that...i really have no response...

and no dead decomposing flesh CAN'T EVOLVE. especially when THEY HAVE NO BRAINS.
someone please take this guy's keyboard away until he can learn to clean it so the keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyysssssss don't stick.

[bassman]

I think the whole idea of a zombie knowing textspeak is just as hokey as a zombie that can use a cell phone in the first place


:lol: How many times has this been said, now? Who said it's a damn zombie that's text messaging that quote??? I suppose the living human characters in the film can't phone text and the zombies have to do it? It's not like that line came from a ghoul in the original film anyway....it was Johnny.

It's amazing how people keep making this VERY strange assumption....

[AcesandEights]

And after that comment.....your opinions now mean nothing:p


This from the guy who admitted the following:

I liked the "Planet of the Apes" remake.

Just kidding, too, Bassman, but that film was wretched, aside from the visual aspects (acting was okay), but the script and plot were atrocious. You still have kudos, in my book, for liking the Ghostbusters though (except for the sequel ;) ).

[bassman]

This from the guy who admitted the following:


Just kidding, too, Bassman, but that film was wretched, aside from the visual aspects (acting was okay), but the script and plot were atrocious.


I don't think it was THAT bad. I didn't say it was great....it definitely wasn't. But it was entertaining for the one or two times I saw it. Probably on the same level as "Dawn04". Except I would definitely choose "POTA Remake" over "Dawn04" any day...

It freaked me out, though. I kept expecting Marky Mark to whip it out and say "You're a big star". I can't watch movies with him in them after seeing that. I still can't believe they put that in a film....:eek:

[AcesandEights]

dawn o4 was pretty damn good. only thing that got to me was the running thing. ZOMBIES CAN RUN? LOL

land of the dead..myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy god was a terrible movie... this coming from some who's such a die hard zombie movie fan that i only move to places i can easily defense or escape from in case of zombie attack...i gotta tell you that movie WAS TOTAL CRAP i own every zombie movie most can think of..but i won't buy that one even if its at target for 9 bucks (and thats saying a lot!)

i've debate this with so many people..but

ZOMBIES CAN THINK? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


god damn what a terrible movie...i still can't get over the end...looooooooooooooooooooooool...that's pretty much my response..because what insulted me as a lover of these movies is that romero just thought that..hey in the middle of it all i'll just give zombies a brain and some thoughts to! totally remake the whole idea of zombies..well because i can.

i was told that he remade land of the dead because someone else had started to make it or was gonna make it and good old georgey thought..it was crap and choose to do one himself.....my my my....his age sure is showing.

again.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ool

let me get this straight for you who don't know this or haven't read the zombie survival guide.

ZOMBIES DON'T HAVE BRAINS THEY CAN'T THINK AND THEY SURE IN THE HELL DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

as for 28 days later.

something tells me you all have to be brits because even thou that movie was so so-it sure in the hell wasn't close to being as good as dawn 04...not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close matter of factly it lacked so much -STARTING WITH REAL ZOMBIE ACTION AND REAL ACTION PERIOD. oh i loved how they managed to out smart a bunch of trained soliders by simply laying down on the dead bodies (yes thats sarcasm)...i loved when a drop of blood easily falls from a dead body into some dudes eye...lol....seriously i can't stop laughing.

hell the orignal dawn of the dead in all its cheesyness EATS UP 28 DAYS.

the brits always try to use logical thinking and crap like that in these kinds of movies..its almost as if they are trying to make out like some how they are more logical and will think straight in these kinds of situations.

again

looooooooooooooooooool.

i won't even comment on saun of the dead. but i will say this the best part of that movie was the joke about them walking down the street pretending to be zombies. but that movie should have went straight to dvd.

dawn 04 was brilliant. character development? yes we'll see lots of that in A MOVIE WHO'S UNDERLINE THEME (IN CASE YOU ALL MISSED IT) WAS THAT THE END OF THE WORLD IS HAPPENING AND NO ONES GONNA SURVIVE. the whole point of these movies is - how will society break down-and you want character development

i dont mean to insult anyone but COOOOOOOOOOME ON

stop trying to be snobs. because thats what i feel SOME OF YOU are doing.
i dont care if you make movies i don't care if you are into movies i don't care if you are an aspiring director...but what i do care about is some of you fools going into these fields THINKING YOU CAN REWRITE THE OBVIOUS. some of you think you know better but i get a strange feeling that you hardly know what the zombie movies are all about. when i see crappy movies...i guess i know who i should blame eh?

but those are my two thoughts and i'd glady talk more on them

again

zombies can think

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i have no response to that..i'm still dazed at that...i really have no response...

and no dead decomposing flesh CAN'T EVOLVE. especially when THEY HAVE NO BRAINS.


Wow. Try throwing a ****ing comma at your sentences some time. No, seriously.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[radiokill]

Wow. Try throwing a ****ing comma at your sentences some time. No, seriously.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I quit reading that post for two reasons....it sucked and it was hard to read

[zombievsshark]

:lol: How many times has this been said, now? Who said it's a damn zombie that's text messaging that quote??? I suppose the living human characters in the film can't phone text and the zombies have to do it? It's not like that line came from a ghoul in the original film anyway....it was Johnny.

It's amazing how people keep making this VERY strange assumption....
who else would be coming to get barbara?

Johnny.

But johnny dies in the first 10 minutes of the film. So he's a zombie...just like he was at the end of the original film.

[Griff]

I suspect they made NOTLD3D different enough from the original in case they were unable to promote it as a remake. As I understand it, it was shot under the title UNDEAD3D or something similar and when they were sure they could get away with it legally, they went ahead and stole NIGHT's name. I wouldn't be surprised to discover they've ADR'd over all the original character names with NOTLD ones.

F*ckin' bums.

[bassman]

who else would be coming to get barbara?

Johnny.

But johnny dies in the first 10 minutes of the film. So he's a zombie...just like he was at the end of the original film.

Yes....he does die. But he also says that line at the beginning of the film in the cemetary to pick on Barbara. It's not a zombie that's leaving the text message.:rolleyes:

[rikimaru]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I quit reading that post for two reasons....it sucked and it was hard to read



dont worry radio you didnt miss anything worth reading.... he only said he thinks dawn 04 is better then dawn 78 and that brits are all arrogant jerks...chances are hes already been tarred and feathered.

[zombievsshark]

Yes....he does die. But he also says that line at the beginning of the film in the cemetary to pick on Barbara. It's not a zombie that's leaving the text message.:rolleyes:
he does say that at the beginning of the film yes.

but in that scene its night already and Johnny has been dead quite a while.

[bassman]

he does say that at the beginning of the film yes.

but in that scene its night already and Johnny has been dead quite a while.

Yes, I'm sure this film is very different from the original....so maybe Johnny makes it until after it's dark. Hell, they could have him survive the entire night if they wish. All I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to assume that a zombie is leaving a text message.

You're right....the movie MIGHT be that absurd(after seein Dawn04, anything is possible:p )....but I seriously doubt it.

[Maitreya]

Ok, I almost don't want to dignify this with a response... But I feel the need to do it. And I'll kick myself if I don't lllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllll l.


dawn o4 was pretty damn good. only thing that got to me was the running thing. ZOMBIES CAN RUN? LOL

land of the dead..myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy god was a terrible movie... this coming from some who's such a die hard zombie movie fan that i only move to places i can easily defense or escape from in case of zombie attack...i gotta tell you that movie WAS TOTAL CRAP i own every zombie movie most can think of..but i won't buy that one even if its at target for 9 bucks (and thats saying a lot!)

Ok... You think it's the worst? Watch House of the Dead or Contagium and be unpleasantly surprised


i've debate this with so many people..but

ZOMBIES CAN THINK? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


god damn what a terrible movie...i still can't get over the end...looooooooooooooooooooooool...that's pretty much my response..because what insulted me as a lover of these movies is that romero just thought that..hey in the middle of it all i'll just give zombies a brain and some thoughts to! totally remake the whole idea of zombies..well because i can.

Well, considering Romero INVENTED zombies as we know them, yes, I'd say he can do this. Plus he'd already introduced the idea in Day of the Dead. Bub ring a bell at all?

Dude, if you really think about it they HAVE to have brains... Did you ever sit back and ask yourself WHY shooting them in the head kills them?

There's your answer.


i was told that he remade land of the dead because someone else had started to make it or was gonna make it and good old georgey thought..it was crap and choose to do one himself.....my my my....his age sure is showing.

again.

You do realize Land is NOT a remake and is in fact Romero's new, original work, correct? He'd had it in the works for a while, and if I recall the commercial success of movies such as 28 Days Later greenlit the making of Dawn '04 which in turn greenlit Land.


looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ool
Please go suckstart a 9mm.


let me get this straight for you who don't know this or haven't read the zombie survival guide.

ZOMBIES DON'T HAVE BRAINS THEY CAN'T THINK AND THEY SURE IN THE HELL DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

Max Brooks did NOT invent the zombie genre, he simply wrote a book because he enjoys zombies. According to him people can only turn into zombies by being bitten. (And just in case it slipped your mind) George Romero INVENTED zombies, and anyone who dies becomes one.

Also refer to my above statement about Bub. Oh yes, and in case it confuses you, by Day of the Dead I mean the 1985 movie, not Contagium.


as for 28 days later.

something tells me you all have to be brits because even thou that movie was so so-it sure in the hell wasn't close to being as good as dawn 04...not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close matter of factly it lacked so much -STARTING WITH REAL ZOMBIE ACTION AND REAL ACTION PERIOD. oh i loved how they managed to out smart a bunch of trained soliders by simply laying down on the dead bodies (yes thats sarcasm)...i loved when a drop of blood easily falls from a dead body into some dudes eye...lol....seriously i can't stop laughing.
.... Wow I... I don't quite know how to react to this, that paragraph just took like a week or two off the end of my life.


hell the orignal dawn of the dead in all its cheesyness EATS UP 28 DAYS.
Ok, the original Dawn of the Dead is also one of the greatest and most definitive zombie movies ever made


the brits always try to use logical thinking and crap like that in these kinds of movies..its almost as if they are trying to make out like some how they are more logical and will think straight in these kinds of situations.

again

looooooooooooooooooool.
Please take a bath with a toaster

ok, wow... I can't bring myself to respond to this anymore.

I mean, seriously, who died and made you king of the zombies?

gg, kthxbai

[LS]

that's it? that's all you idiots have? is to try and insult my writing about an incredibly terrible movie? no one can help your tastes if you feel land of the dead is a fine movie.

but then again i'm sure many of you are into being goth kids and like morresy or the cure. probably in to trance as well (all i gotta say about trance is it needs to take its ass back to europe and stay there)


but i'll give it to that one guy who actually responded.

ya know i thought about bob-yes he can think to some degree but even that was far fetched-we was recently dead and so it stands to make sense that he'd have some sort of risdual memory-but i'm not buying it. i'll give you the memory part-even tho they have no brains even the mad dr shows us that-but then george must go back and rewrite a lot from the past-becaue again as i so clearly posted-I'M INSULTED THAT HE JUST REWROTE THE WHOLE IDEA OF IT-don't get mad at me because insulted the man who's nuts you cling to so dearly. but i want to go on record as saying that day of the dead is probably even worse than land of the dead-probably a tie. now that's a movie worth remaking because again-there's so much potential in that idea-what did happen to the gov? who's now running the show? mad soliders losing? good ideas on how humans will just ruin things-all that needed to be explored more.

i stand by what i said about 28 days and shaun of the dead

land of the dead....god damn..i cant get past that. i walked out of the movies..and til this day...can only shake my head and ...really can't get a comment out other than...ZOMBIES CAN THINK? THEY CAN EVOLVE? WOW ROTTING FLESH SURE EVOLVES FASTER THAN HUMANS!...still laugh at the last scene where the brotha zombie looks at the other humans and almost looks at them with respect....dude...

perhaps i love these movies to much so there fore think to much about this. BUT AT LEAST I THINK ABOUT IT UNLIKE MOST OF YOU. you ****s will just take what someone gives you and say...that's just the way it is i guess

how many of you are republicans?

as for shoting them in the head. its common sense. remove the head and rest will follow. THAT'S WHAT GAR WAS PLAYING WITH. he'll sit there and tell you other wise...but i don't believe him for one second-and no they don't have brains they have mush up there-they act upon the basic of most basic instincts-to eat.

and no dont feed me-you don't get the movie..oh i got it. AGAIN there was so much potential there-but then he had to add cgi zombies to make it cool (his first mistake in my opinion) then ...well just watch the movie. no way around it its crap.

if they make another one-i hope they get away from the crap about zombies "just trying to live their lives" or how they are the true opressed ones, and back to the "what can we expect in world which seems to have no hope". okay so you say-well if they did that then it means no more zombie movies or that they'll just become redundant. NO **** REALLY? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THEY AREN'T REDUNDANT NOW? WHAT DO YOU WANT AWARD WINNING MOVIES? WITH A ZOMBIE PRESIDENT AND ZOMBIES GIVING SPEECHS ON PHYSICS? these movies in all reality are a limited idea-so stop making them and leave the classics like dawn of the dead 78 (a great great great great great movie) to be the only memory we have.

NO MORE SHAUN OF THE DEADS,28 DAYS OR LAND OF THE DEADS.

[coma]

perhaps i love these movies to much so there fore think to much about this. BUT AT LEAST I THINK ABOUT IT UNLIKE MOST OF YOU. you ****s will just take what someone gives you and say...that's just the way it is i guess
It's not what you are saying, it's the obnoxious style.
If someone Screamed the theory of relativity in my ear, I wouldn't say
"My, what a revelation!"
I would probably say;
"Don't be a weenie, bro. I can't even listen to this"

If you peruse the threads and posts, you would see many of us do WAAAY too much picking over the minutia.
I'm sure you could be welcomed with interesting responses if you chose to speak in a reasonable manner.

Goth kids?
Sheesh:rolleyes:

[darth los]

Things just seem more magical when you're a kid. It's like christmas was this special time and now it's just another day. It's nothing like it was when i was a boy.

[mista_mo]

talk about old thread batman


I wish this guy would post more....

I was laughing so hard at this....
oh yea just to fit in...


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOFMG DAT MOVEE WAS SO ****E THATE I ALMSOT SWEER IO HAD TOOO CUT OFF MY EERS AFFER I WATCH IT LOOL OMGFG ROFL!!!!11

[darth los]

Just think of it as rediscovering the classics.