Spectre (film) - Bond 24

[Neil]

This could be interesting - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2833780/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Tarantino-villain-Bond-s-cunning-nemesis.html

[bassman]

Hrmm......with there having been rumors of Mendes bringing back Blofeld, and looking at Skyfall he clearly wants certain staples from the classics to return, I could see Waltz being a good update of the character.

Even if it's an original baddie, Waltz and Bond Villain seem like a match made in heaven...

[Neil]

Hrmm......with there having been rumors of Mendes bringing back Blofeld, and looking at Skyfall he clearly wants certain staples from the classics to return, I could see Waltz being a good update of the character.

Even if it's an original baddie, Waltz and Bond Villain seem like a match made in heaven...

Let's hope the script is worthy! For my Casino Royale is still the best of the three so far... Skyfall was pretty good too, but it felt a little too contrived for my liking.

[Neil]

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[MinionZombie]

Spoodge ... spoodge everywhere!!!

Bring it on!!! :hyper:

[shootemindehead]

I've never liked James Bond, but the new direction is certainly the way to go and Craig has been excellent. Hopefully this will live up to the last three in the reboot.

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BTW I notice that the second video uses the refrain from 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'.

My favorite Bond music.

[wayzim]

I've never liked James Bond, but the new direction is certainly the way to go and Craig has been excellent. Hopefully this will live up to the last three in the reboot.

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BTW I notice that the second video uses the refrain from 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'.

My favorite Bond music.

You beat me in mentioning that, but you do have discerning taste in music so it's all good. ;) I've forever championed OHMSS, and George Lazenby as a decent Bond; in spite of his lack of experience in the role. With Craig's latest venture, I think he finally owns Bond as much as Connery did.

Beats the hell out of Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation, in any case.

[bassman]

I'm not sure what they're called, but did anyone else notice that there's a shot of Waltz wearing one of those suits similar to Blofeld's? hrmm....

Can not wait for this. Always been a big Bond fan and especially love Craig's time as the character.

[wayzim]

So this morning I hustled off to see the latest installment in the 007 franchise: which to some degree mirrored Nolan's Dark Knight series in Sam Mendes dedication to following up the ending of the previous film. Spectre continues with this as James Bond flaunts his license to kill in chasing down the assassin who murdered M(Judi Dench) in Sky Fall. And there is fall out as well from the whole story arc, along with the emergence of the title shadow organization; which leads to the one real disappointment in this movie. It's no spoiler that we've talked a lot about the identity of a certain steadfast Bond villain, and that was practically a give me from the trailers, but the origin story behind it was very much a let down for me. Also, the secondary plot; which served as both the evil scheme for Spectre and a call to arms for the new M(Ralph Fiennes) and his loyal crew, clunked quite a bit. Still, the resolution was not a bad one, in that finally the super spy which Bond was meant to be arrived at long last. And I was happy to find another able Bond girl: Madeleine Swan(Lea Seydoux) who I put up there with Honor Blackman and Diana Riggs; and Eva Green, of course. Also, if this is Daniel Craigs' final go at playing 007, I think he ended his reign on a high note. I was clapping at the conclusion.

[bassman]

Danny Boyle has been announced as the director of the next film, with Craig again returning to the role of Bond. Filming starts later this year.

Excited to see how Boyle handles the character.

[EvilNed]

(2.5 half years later)

This film sucked by the way. It used every trope already parodied in the Austin Powers films.

[bassman]

(2.5 half years later)

This film sucked by the way. It used every trope already parodied in the Austin Powers films.

That thought had crossed my mind as well. I enjoyed Spectre for what it was, but it definitely had its issues and was the least of Mendes’ two films. I do remember being very impressed with the technical achievement of the opening scene during The day of the dead parade. Something like a ten minute tracking shot going from crane, to the street, up the building, then out onto the building tops in one single shot.

Hopefully Danny Boyle can improve and bring something a little better with the 25th film, though.

[MinionZombie]

That thought had crossed my mind as well. I enjoyed Spectre for what it was, but it definitely had its issues and was the least of Mendes’ two films. I do remember being very impressed with the technical achievement of the opening scene during The day of the dead parade. Something like a ten minute tracking shot going from crane, to the street, up the building, then out onto the building tops in one single shot.

Hopefully Danny Boyle can improve and bring something a little better with the 25th film, though.

Yeah, Spectre's opening sequence played a major part in elevating the film. I quite enjoyed it, and it's leagues ahead of some of the franchise's worst entries, but it never betters that opening sequence. Even the song was a bit iffy (I didn't care for the style of the singing, basically).

Skyfall, on the other hand, is one of the all-time greatest Bond movies. That was a great way to celebrate the anniversary and it co-incided with a pretty good vibe in Britain in 2012. You had the Queen's jubilee, the Olympics, and one of the very best Bond movies ... there was a good patriotic (not nationalistic) vibe going around, it was nice.

[bassman]

Craig recently spent a day at the CIA doing some research for the new film: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/06/daniel-craig-cia-visit-bond-007

It’s mostly a fluff piece about the CIA, but there are a few good points that it brings up...

With Craig visiting the American Agency, it gives me hope that fellow American Agent Felix Leiter May return? Played well by Jeffrey Wright in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, the character has been absent in recent films. Several different actors have played him ever since the creation of the series, and I felt Royale did a great job of making him Bond’s “brother” in action for the new direction of the series.

“Shatterhand” is mentioned, which is a Blofeld reference from You Only Live Twice. Christopher Waltz will likely not return as Blofeld, but it would make sense to continue with the Spectre Organization in some way.

They mention that there will be a more equal female component to the film, which is all good and well, but they act like that’s something new for the franchise? Of course the older films take a certain derogatory stance on women in certain ways, they were unfortunate reflections of the times they were made, but women have been given a much more fair approach with the series in recent years. Especially Craig’s films, so it’s surprising they’re acting like Bond is still slapping women around like the old days.

And as usual, it’s already being reported this is Craig’s last mission as 007. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it is indeed his last film, but damn it man.....why do they go through this “last time”, will he/won’t he stuff every single time?? :lol:

[MinionZombie]

While Spectre's female characters weren't that interesting all-said-and-done (although ultimately that film was all about 007 and Blofeld), Skyfall had an excellent pairing of 007 and M, and of course we had Casino Royale with 007 and Vesper Lynd. Even whats'ername from QoS got a solid outing in that movie.

Yeah, I'd imagine this will be Craig's last Bond flick, the man's getting well on for these kinds of films on physical terms (he's had a bunch of surgeries for injuries sustained over the years) - indeed, he turned 50 earlier this year. The exertion of it all, even with stunt performers coming along for the really dangerous stuff, is considerable, so despite all these people banging the drum for Idris Elba - who turns 46 later this year - he's now just too old for the role to put it quite bluntly. If Elba was to become Bond he'd be pushing 50 by the release date of his first Bond movie, if it ever happened. Sure, with diet and training and better lifestyles that we generally have today, 50 now isn't what 50 was back in, say, the 1960s, but still.

The controllers of the Bond franchise will be looking for a younger actor (Craig was 37 when he signed on) so they can get a string of films out of them. Indeed, Craig could have had more under his belt if it wasn't for these 4-year gaps that have crept in, initially by accident (the MGM financial troubles delayed Skyfall) and then seemingly by design (the gap between Skyfall and Spectre).

[bassman]

I don’t quite understand the fascination with Elba playing Bond, Elba is a phenomenal actor, but I just don’t see it. Regardless of the color of his skin, I just don’t see Bond when I look at him. And I agree, the Broccoli’s are going to want someone younger so that they can get as many films as possible out of them.

My main hope is that they go back to dropping a new actor in and continuing the story. Now that Craig has done a fantastic job of reinventing the character while simultaneously bringing in a lot of the series’ classic attributes, they don’t need to start all over. Just keep going like the old days.

[EvilNed]

Elba is black tho. I'm all for promoting black characters, but if they want to push a black secret agent in the Bond universe as they should have Elba play Leiter and push for a solo film. I'd watch it.

But to have Elba play Bond? Why? To placcate a PC audience? To show people that "anything is possible"? We know anything is possible, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[MinionZombie]

Yeah, I've never really seen Elba as a potential Bond, but then again I'm not really seeing anyone as a replacement for Craig at the moment. There's been a few names roaming around, at one point Ewan McGregor was looked at - but, likewise, I just didn't see him in the role. More recently Tom Hiddleston was talked about ... but again, can't quite see it. He'd have to bulk up, for one, but he seems too posh to be Bond (even a bit brittle). You need someone who can straddle the line of being a 'brute in a tuxedo' (which Craig pulls off very well).

Naturally, it should really be a British actor (be they English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish) as it's a British franchise through-and-through. Few Americans can pull off the English accent for one, and the Americans simply have a different sensibility, for two. To get the finer details and vibe of it, you've gotta have a Brit in the role.


We know anything is possible, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Where's that Dr Ian Malcom meme when I need it? :D

There's a contingent out there going on about having a female James Bond ... but I'd imagine those people are either: 1) Not Bond fans, or 2) Virtue Signalling. A female James Bond (i.e. "Jane Bond 007 in Casino Royale") would make as much sense as re-casting Wonder Woman as "Wonder Man" - it's just inherently not the character.

The 'Jane Bond' thing is also a pretty shit idea because it disrespects everyone - create a new spy, who is female, from the ground-up and make it (this new franchise) worthy to stand alongside Bond and be judged on its own merits. It's a hard task, but it's the right path. But a hand-me-down franchise for the sake of virtue signalling Twitter twirps? That's not going to 'improve' anyone's lot. It'd disrespect the source material and it'd disrespect women as a whole (i.e. "you're not worthy of having your own character", not to mention plenty of women already watch the Bond movies because, shock horror, men and women are capable of watching and enjoying movies where the lead is a different gender to them - gasp!).

There was a 'sort of' stab at it with "Salt", which was a solid flick, but it just didn't quite come together. Another 'sort of' came in the form of "Haywire" with Gina Carrano (who was awesome in F&F6 and Deadpool), but that too didn't quite stick the landing for whatever reason IIRC. I'd like to see "Haywire" again, come to think of it. That was probably a better stab at it as Soderberg was building a film from the ground-up around Carrano, playing to her strengths. Yeah, I quite fancy re-watching that some time now that I'm talking about it.

[bassman]

Slightly off topic, but MZ reminded me of a recent documentary while mentioning Bond should be British. “Becoming Bond” is a fantastic watch about George Lazenby going from being an Australian car salesman to tricking his way into the role of Bond. I highly recommend it.

[bassman]

Danny Boyle no longer directing Bond 25


Michael G. Wilson, Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig today announced that due to creative differences Danny Boyle has decided to no longer direct Bond 25.

Shame, I was interested in what Boyle could bring to the franchise. Hopefully they can find a satisfying replacement...

[shootemindehead]

Always thought it was a strange fit meself. They probably tried to place too many constraints on him, and he just nope'd.

[MinionZombie]

Mmm ... I kinda wondered how he'd fit in with a juggernaut like the Bond franchise. It would have been interesting to see what his version would be like, but hopefully we get a solid replacement who can shepherd a really good final Bond for Craig to go out on.

[bassman]

If they’re in a bind to keep the announced production and release dates, my ideal choice would be bringing back Martin Campbell. He’s resuscitated the franchise twice now, including the phenomenal Casino Royale, so it would be a nice bookend for Craig’s string of films.

On a recent episode of Screen Junkies, they pointed out that Craig has now been Bond as long as Roger Moore. There have been much larger gaps between films, so his film count is lower, but in terms of the time frame, Craig will now be the longest (continuously) running Bond....

[EvilNed]

If they’re in a bind to keep the announced production and release dates, my ideal choice would be bringing back Martin Campbell. He’s resuscitated the franchise twice now, including the phenomenal Casino Royale, so it would be a nice bookend for Craig’s string of films.

On a recent episode of Screen Junkies, they pointed out that Craig has now been Bond as long as Roger Moore. There have been much larger gaps between films, so his film count is lower, but in terms of the time frame, Craig will now be the longest (continuously) running Bond....

Moore's films sucked ass.

[bassman]

Moore's films sucked ass.

They’re definitely lighter, goofy, and reflective of their time, but I do enjoy a couple of them. Live and Let Die and The Spy Who Loved Me are among some of the classic Bonds, IMO. The rest of Moore’s run is pretty shakey, at best. It was smart of them to attempt taking it back to it’s roots with Timothy Dalton’s two film run, but unfortunately it just didn’t click with audiences like it later did with Craig.

[MinionZombie]

Moore's films sucked ass.


They’re definitely lighter, goofy, and reflective of their time, but I do enjoy a couple of them. Live and Let Die and The Spy Who Loved Me are among some of the classic Bonds, IMO. The rest of Moore’s run is pretty shakey, at best. It was smart of them to attempt taking it back to it’s roots with Timothy Dalton’s two film run, but unfortunately it just didn’t click with audiences like it later did with Craig.

Moore had three stone cold classics of the franchise in his era: Live & Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, and The Spy Who Loved Me. He also had some really iffy ones, too, like Moonraker and the high camp of the time on occasion.

I'm likewise a fan of Dalton's two flicks and agree on him being a precursor to Craig's era of Bond, what with the harder edge. Moore hung around too long and was looking a bit too old to really be Bond in those last couple of flicks.

I recently went to the "Bond in Motion" exhibit at the London Film Museum, which was proper good. :thumbsup: If it's still on and anyone's in that area it's well worth checking out for Bond fans. :)

[JDP]

Moore had three stone cold classics of the franchise in his era: Live & Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, and The Spy Who Loved Me. He also had some really iffy ones, too, like Moonraker and the high camp of the time on occasion.

I'm likewise a fan of Dalton's two flicks and agree on him being a precursor to Craig's era of Bond, what with the harder edge. Moore hung around too long and was looking a bit too old to really be Bond in those last couple of flicks.

I recently went to the "Bond in Motion" exhibit at the London Film Museum, which was proper good. :thumbsup: If it's still on and anyone's in that area it's well worth checking out for Bond fans. :)

The first few Bond films with Moore were great, only second to those of Connery, and way better than the ones that came after Moore. Some of the later Moore Bond films got a bit too corny, campy and goofy, but they were still great entertainment and well-crafted movies. I enjoy them more than all the ones that came after Moore retired from the franchise. There always was a very obvious element of "campiness", "goofiness" and "corniness" to the Bond character and movies, even Connery's era Bond clearly had it (for example: obvious play-on-words like "Pussy Galore", or the hilarious way Bond kills the two assassins in Diamonds are Forever), so I don't see why some people get so riled up about Moore's Bond. The Bond movies he was in just took it to the next level.

[bassman]

I have the complete Bond Blu Ray collection and I’ll watch Moore’s worst films before watching Brosnan’s last few films. Aside from Goldeneye, which is one of my all time favorites of the series, Brosnan’s films just got progressively worse until Die Another Day is just insulting to the viewer. The over the top cheesiness felt earned with Moore’s run, but by the time they were making Brosnan wind surf a tsunami, it was just gut wrenching.

I suppose I shouldn’t complain too much, because that was one of the factors leading to them reimagine the series, thus leading to the phenomenal Casino Royale. It’s a shame Brosnan didn’t have more than one good film, though. Even before being hired, the Bond series was seemingly bad luck to Brosnan because of his trouble with Remington Steele. He could’ve had a much longer tenure as bond, with more good films.

[MinionZombie]

Goldeneye is excellent. I went to see that with my Dad in the cinema, and it was my first Bond movie. :)

I thought Tomorrow Never Dies was pretty good, although the 'evil Murdoch-alike' villain was a bit on-the-nose. I think it was with The World Is Not Enough when it started to soften up for Brosnan and things edged a bit too campy or plasticky and chintsy with some of the on-screen elements. Die Another Day is an interesting one ... I re-watched it a while ago (but I did see it in the cinema when it first came out) and the first half is pretty good and I was thinking "oh, this isn't as duff as I remember it being", but then the second half came along and it was as silly and campy as I remembered it being.

[bassman]

Goldeneye was also my first Bond movie in the cinema. :) I also remember reserving a VHS copy at my local rental store before the film was released on home video. Then waiting by the phone for the call that it came in. :lol:

It may have been my first Bond film in theaters, but I was first turned onto the series through it being aired on TV. Back in the antenna TV days, there was a local Atlanta network that would run a marathon for one month out of the year. Something like “20 days of Bond”. I was lucky to catch the bulk of the series that way, but I vividly remember that seeing Goldfinger was the moment I was transformed into a life long fan. That film blew my mind and is one of those type of films that I can still watch whenever I choose and never get bored for a second. Probably the perfect Bond film...

[MinionZombie]

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/danny-boyle-quit-bond-25-dispute-russian-villain-daniel-craig-103837191.html


Danny Boyle departed the production of Bond 25 in a dispute with Daniel Craig over the movie’s Russian villain, according to reports.

It came following rumours of disagreements over the plot, which is said to be focussing on escalating tensions with Russia and the notion of a ‘new Cold War’, echoing current events.

But a source has told the Daily Telegraph that the friction actually arose over plans to cast 41-year-old Polish actor Tomasz Kot as the movie’s villain, which was reportedly viewed as a ‘left field’ decision, and may have rankled Craig, who has a say in casting matters.

“I have heard that they wanted to bring that Cold War element in but update it to the modern day.

“Danny Boyle was in for that. That wasn’t the problem. The problem came in when they were making the final decisions about casting pre-production.”

Currently Yann Demange, who directed military thriller ’71 and TV series Top Boy, is the bookie’s favourite to take over.

So the crux of it was the casting of the villain with Craig and Boyle having different opinions, but Craig has a big say in the casting.

[shootemindehead]

Yeh, there's been arguments over a silly modern cold war plot with Russia and I'd say that that's the main bone of contention, despite the press release. I can't imagine a director walking over a single casting disagreement. That doesn't ring true at all. Also, it's not like they're wanting to cast Paulie Shore or anything.

Oh dear. This isn't shaping up well.

[bassman]

I seem to remember hearing rumors that they were looking at Angelina Jolie and Helena Bonham Carter for the villain? After Bardem and Waltz in the last two films, perhaps the producers are wanting to stick to “name” villains? I would be okay with Carter, but I don’t think I want to see someone like Jolie in a Bond film. Gives me flashbacks of Halle Berry and how her casting was more important than the film/role itself. Not that the film was any good, but I don’t want to see something similar happen to Craig’s last film.

But as Shoot pointed out, I also have a hard time seeing Boyle leaving just over the casting of the villain. Surely Boyle and Hodge’s script must have been too much of a departure for the series, then they were probably unwilling to adapt too far with the producers’ notes.

EDIT:

Apparently Eon and MGM still have hopes of making the November 2019 release date, as they have a short list of directors they’re interested in already. The odd choice on the list is Edgar Wright, but I could definitely see him making an interesting Bond.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/420637-bond-25-replacement-director-short-list-revealed#/slide/1

[MinionZombie]

An Edgar Wright Bond movie? Hmmm ... interesting. Although would he want to direct something he didn't write? Then again, it's ruddy Bond, so perhaps he'd be willing to give it a go and try something different. Baby Driver felt different to his previous films, for instance.

A 'second Cold War' plot would be timely in so far as there is trouble brewing and lots of flag waving and all sorts of unhelpful gubbins from dangerous leaders all over the shop...

[MinionZombie]

Hmmm ... there's now talk that a major sticking point for Boyle was an idea that Barbara Broccoli apparently had: to kill of Bond in the finale and then have him regenerate like Doctor Who. Now, I'd imagine that the person saying "regenerate" doesn't literally mean that as that's sci-fi, but the idea of killing off Bond himself seems like a really stupid idea, frankly. I don't want to watch a Bond movie where it's some other person in the position of 007. It's James Bond 007, not Somebody Else 007.

Just do what has worked for the series thus far - you hire a new actor and "James Bond" continues. While Craig's era has somewhat been a reboot as it kicked off with Casino Royale (because they'd finally got the rights to it back), a simple re-casting is all we needed before and it's all we need now. Killing off Bond? Shite idea. :rolleyes: Hopefully saner heads will prevail and that idea is either being misreported (i.e. just an idea that was floated but swiftly shot down a while ago), or another version of the script without snuffing the hero for shock value is used.

[bassman]

I have a hard time believing that. Barbara has literally grown up with this franchise, it IS her life, I don’t see her possibly thinking something so strange is a good idea. But...stranger things have happened, I suppose...

[MinionZombie]

I have a hard time believing that. Barbara has literally grown up with this franchise, it IS her life, I don’t see her possibly thinking something so strange is a good idea. But...stranger things have happened, I suppose...

Yeah, it struck me as a bit curious ... so I'm not convinced of it myself, but anything's possible I suppose ... was still rather surprised to read that though, as it is a pretty out-there idea for someone who is essentially the shepherd and curator of the entire franchise. Then again, why would someone make that up? But perhaps it was a case of a idea floated out there at an early stage, only to be ditched ... but then if that was the case it'd have nothing really to do with Boyle leaving, so I don't know what to think now! :p

[MinionZombie]

New director announced - Cary Joji Fukunaga (director of True Detective season 1) will be taking over. He was going to direct It, but departed from that project, so we'll see how he fits into the Bond machine, eh? The release date has also been pushed back to February 14th 2020 (instead of November 2019).

As long as it's good or great and a fitting departure film for the Craig era, then I'll be happy. No pressure, then! :D

[bassman]

Whaaaa?!? Fukunaga is a very, very interesting choice. I love Boyle, but I may be more interested in this director!

[bassman]

They’ve brought in Scott Z. Burns to make a pass at Pervis and Wade’s script. Burns has a reputation as a “script doctor” in the business, with many of his rewrites getting high praise, so hopefully he can do the same for Craig’s new and likely final film? They’ve also moved the premiere by about two months.

https://www.joblo.com/movie-news/scott-z-burns-to-rewrite-for-cary-fukunaga-bond-25-moves-back-two-months

Burns has worked his magic on lots of scripts, including the Bourne series, Blade Runner 2049, Rogue One, Contagion, and The Ocean’s Series. Hopefully he can take the regular Bond writers’ story and give it a slight bit of a different spin. Very excited to see what he and Fukunaga can bring to the table!

[MinionZombie]

New working title: "SHATTERHAND"


The name comes from an alias used by series supervillain Ernst Stavro Blofeld in Ian Fleming’s 1964 Bond novel You Only Live Twice.

The news comes days after the film’s release date was pushed back to April 2020 amid reports of extensive script rewrites. Bourne Ultimatum writer Scott Z Burns has been hired to rework the screenplay for Daniel Craig’s fifth and final outing as 007. Original director Danny Boyle dropped out in August 2018 after “creative differences” with the producers, and there have since been script drafts by Paul Haggis and the series’ writing team Neal Purvis and Robert Wade.

[bassman]

Interesting. Very coincidental, as I just watched You Only Live Twice a day or two ago when it popped up in my Netflix feed...

Whatever they do, I just hope they give it the attention it deserves and send Craig off properly. Even his lowest points in the franchise aren’t actually bad films, so he has the potential of bowing out with a great little section of the franchise’s history.

[EvilNed]

What a mess. Why is it always this way with Bond films these days?

[bassman]

What a mess. Why is it always this way with Bond films these days?

Too many cooks in the kitchen, is my guess....

[EvilNed]

Too many cooks in the kitchen, is my guess....

Too many cooks!

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[bassman]

:lol:

That’s great. I haven’t watched Adult Swim in a long time, but whatever that’s from, it looks like a funny show.

[MinionZombie]

Troubled waters pre-dated both Casino Royale (the ownership lawsuit finally got settled) and Skyfall (MGM's financial woes delayed the film happening by two years), both of which turned out fantastic.

And despite being weaker films - simply by comparison to Casino Royale and Skyfall, both all-time-great level Bond flicks - Quantum of Solace and Spectre are both really solid flicks. QoS is the weaker of the two, but even still, it has an awful lot going for it and is miles ahead of the 'worst' Bond films. QoS is quite a breezy one (indeed, it's the shortest of the Bond movies, with the credits rolling at like the 99 minute mark). I've been meaning to re-watch Spectre, come to think of it. I've seen it a couple of times now. It, like QoS, just couldn't measure up to the sheer brilliance of their predecessors.

Also - Too Many Cooks - haha! Me and some mates were mulling over that 'never ending credits' idea a while back.

[EvilNed]

I think Spectre is damn stupid. The villain pulls a lot of tricks that were mocked in the Austin Powers movies 20 years ago.

[shootemindehead]

Yeh, it was easily the worst Bond film of the Craig era. Just dumb. All the wrong beats were hit.

Which is a real shame, because the Craig era Bond is a series of continuing films in a long running story, which was never really done before with Bond. So you can't just skip it, as it were.

Honestly though, I couldn't care less if I never see a James Bond film ever again.

[bassman]

There’s no denying that Spectre had more than it’s fair share of issues, but I still enjoyed it. Of Craig’s films, Quantum of Solace is my least favorite. I’d rank them as Casino, Skyfall, Spectre, Quantum. In all though, Craig has had a solid run with the character, IMO. Probably the best set of Bond films for an actor since Connery.

Huge fan of the series, own them all, and watch them regularly, so perhaps I’m a bit lenient, as well...

[EvilNed]

I've only seen each Craig bond film once - when they were released. So I don't have either Casino or Quantum fresh in my memory. However I really liked Skyfall. I thought it was great.