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MagicMoonMonkey
19-May-2017, 06:12 PM
George A. Romero & Matt Birman Team Up for ROAD OF THE DEAD


George A. Romero, the Godfather of the Modern Zombie, is stepping back into the realm of the living dead with a new film called George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead, a project that he co-wrote with Matt Birman, who would direct the movie should it move forward.
According to IndieWire,*George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead will seek financing at to the Frontières market this July at the Fantasia International Film Festival in Montreal.
Pitched about ten years ago by Birman, who was a second unit director on Romero's three most recent zombie films—Survival of the Dead, Diary of the Dead, and Land of the Dead—Road of the Dead "is set on an island where zombie prisoners race cars in a modern-day Coliseum for the entertainment of wealthy humans."Birman cites Road Warrior, Rollerball, and Ben-Hur as influences.
Matt Manjourides and Justin Martell are also on board as producers for Road of the Dead, and it's not yet known if the film would be considered canon within Romero's zombie universe. Time will tell if the movie will secure enough financing to come to fruition.

Source: https://dailydead.com/george-a-romero-matt-birman-team-up-for-road-of-the-dead/


This idea sounds shit. Romero reminds me of a football player who is well and truly past it and with each next match just gets worse and worse. I miss you Romero!:(

JDP
19-May-2017, 06:41 PM
George A. Romero & Matt Birman Team Up for ROAD OF THE DEAD


George A. Romero, the Godfather of the Modern Zombie, is stepping back into the realm of the living dead with a new film called George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead, a project that he co-wrote with Matt Birman, who would direct the movie should it move forward.
According to IndieWire,*George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead will seek financing at to the Frontières market this July at the Fantasia International Film Festival in Montreal.
Pitched about ten years ago by Birman, who was a second unit director on Romero's three most recent zombie films—Survival of the Dead, Diary of the Dead, and Land of the Dead—

uh-oh...


Road of the Dead "is set on an island where zombie prisoners race cars in a modern-day Coliseum for the entertainment of wealthy humans."Birman cites Road Warrior, Rollerball, and Ben-Hur as influences.

UH-OH...


Matt Manjourides and Justin Martell are also on board as producers for Road of the Dead, and it's not yet known if the film would be considered canon within Romero's zombie universe. Time will tell if the movie will secure enough financing to come to fruition.

Source: https://dailydead.com/george-a-romero-matt-birman-team-up-for-road-of-the-dead/


This idea sounds shit. Romero reminds me of a football player who is well and truly past it and with each next match just gets worse and worse. I miss you Romero!:(

You can say that again. RIP 1960s-80s Romero.

Neil
19-May-2017, 09:05 PM
^^ "...where zombie prisoners race cars in a modern-day Coliseum for the entertainment of wealthy humans" - Oh dear!!!

shootemindehead
19-May-2017, 09:46 PM
Good.

God.

Almighty.

:(

LivingDeadGuy
20-May-2017, 04:03 AM
Yeah... I hate to say it but this idea sounds like rubbish. I miss the days when his zombie movies were actual horror movies. In fact I miss the days when ALL zombie movies were horror movies and not lame action-packed blockbusters (World War Z), disturbing romance shit (Warm Bodies) or unfunny comedies (Zombieland). :deadhorse:

MinionZombie
20-May-2017, 11:39 AM
Yeah... I hate to say it but this idea sounds like rubbish. I miss the days when his zombie movies were actual horror movies. In fact I miss the days when ALL zombie movies were horror movies and not lame action-packed blockbusters (World War Z), disturbing romance shit (Warm Bodies) or unfunny comedies (Zombieland). :deadhorse:

I would beg to differ on Zombieland. While it is a riotous comedy, there's also some stunningly heartfelt moments in the film (e.g. the reveal of Tallahassee's actual backstory) that really knocked the audience for six in the cinema. It was able to throw those into the mix and then manage to get us laughing again, and then throw in another stunner down the line. Naturally, it's not in the same league as Day of the Dead and the like, but I've always loved Zombieland (despite the runners).

World War Z can go fudge itself, though. :lol:

As for "Road of the Dead" ... ... erm. :shifty::stunned::shifty:

shootemindehead
20-May-2017, 01:03 PM
Yeh, have to admit to being partial to 'Zombieland' myself and after the romcom, the horror comedy is my most hated subgenre.

As for 'Road of the Dead', I still don't even know where to begin with that. Astonishing stuff.

LivingDeadGuy
20-May-2017, 04:15 PM
Yeah... Well I personally didn't find Zombieland to be that funny. There were times I actually wanted to choke Jesse Eisenberg because I hate him so much as an actor. But that's just my opinion. :D

Edit: and for the record the runner zombies didn't bother me at all. What bothered me was the annoying way that "Columbus" mocked the victims who were getting torn apart by zombies or the fact that he was too selfish to help anybody unless they were a hot babe.

Furiousbunny
22-May-2017, 02:42 PM
George A. Romero & Matt Birman Team Up for ROAD OF THE DEAD


George A. Romero, the Godfather of the Modern Zombie, is stepping back into the realm of the living dead with a new film called George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead, a project that he co-wrote with Matt Birman, who would direct the movie should it move forward.
According to IndieWire,*George A. Romero Presents: Road of the Dead will seek financing at to the Frontières market this July at the Fantasia International Film Festival in Montreal.
Pitched about ten years ago by Birman, who was a second unit director on Romero's three most recent zombie films—Survival of the Dead, Diary of the Dead, and Land of the Dead—Road of the Dead "is set on an island where zombie prisoners race cars in a modern-day Coliseum for the entertainment of wealthy humans."Birman cites Road Warrior, Rollerball, and Ben-Hur as influences.
Matt Manjourides and Justin Martell are also on board as producers for Road of the Dead, and it's not yet known if the film would be considered canon within Romero's zombie universe. Time will tell if the movie will secure enough financing to come to fruition.

Source: https://dailydead.com/george-a-romero-matt-birman-team-up-for-road-of-the-dead/


This idea sounds shit. Romero reminds me of a football player who is well and truly past it and with each next match just gets worse and worse. I miss you Romero!:(

Well I’m not going to judge it till I see it, but it does sound silly as all hell. The only way I see this working is if it is rustic and gritty as hell and devoid of cheap CGI effects. Honestly, a zombie gladiator movie sounds better but whatever. Also why do I get the feeling this whole idea stemmed from that scene in day where Fisher and Sarah are outside the room watching Bub and he makes a comment about seeing one of them trying to drive a car.

MagicMoonMonkey
22-May-2017, 11:54 PM
This nonsense is probably born from that crap he wrote for Marvel, Empire of the Dead.

Watch for this zombie version of death race include some vampires in to the mix just to crank up the level of Whatthefuckery.

LivingDeadGuy
23-May-2017, 01:08 AM
Why can't Romero just go back to doing what he used to do? Making movies about human survival in a hypothetical situation (in other words a zombie apocalypse). I mean that was the whole reason why people loved his movies.

But then again given how fucky the zombie genre has become lately I guess that maybe he's just trying to compete with today's "popular" zombie movies.

Thorn
24-May-2017, 08:52 PM
I just read up on the "race car zombie" movie and had to come here to share it, see someone beat me to it. What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea for a film.

LivingDeadGuy
24-May-2017, 09:43 PM
I just read up on the "race car zombie" movie and had to come here to share it, see someone beat me to it. What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea for a film.

At least it's not as terrible as a story about a teenage girl falling in love with a rotten flesh-eating emo zombie boy who devours her boyfriend. :duh:

shootemindehead
25-May-2017, 11:19 AM
I just read up on the "race car zombie" movie and had to come here to share it, see someone beat me to it. What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea for a film.

It's almost shocking isn't it.

Thorn
25-May-2017, 04:16 PM
It's almost shocking isn't it.

It really I, I will always view George as a legend and a hero but this is just too much for me to deal with.

JDP
25-May-2017, 06:43 PM
It really I, I will always view George as a legend and a hero but this is just too much for me to deal with.

I think that just by taking a look at Survival of the Dead was enough to know that Romero is a goner, cinematically speaking. So this new train wreck of a movie waiting to happen comes as no surprise.

RIP 1960s-1980s Romero.

PS: the only redeeming sequence in Survival was the grumpy old-timer handing a bundle of lit dynamite to a zombie (a la Wile E. Coyote vs the Road Runner) and the aftermath of such an action, but it was only as a comedic moment. The rest of the movie, specially those cheesier than a block of gruyère CGI "special effects", was rather forgettable. I think I have seen better "effects" in those low-budget SyFy channel movies! Lordy I miss the good ol' days when CGI was mostly restricted to movies like Tron (where they truly worked well) and most other movies used "conventional" special effects.

LivingDeadGuy
25-May-2017, 07:29 PM
I agree. I hate the way that all new movies are drowned in obvious computer effects nowadays. I miss the old days when people used make-up and mechanical puppets.

MinionZombie
26-May-2017, 10:22 AM
I agree. I hate the way that all new movies are drowned in obvious computer effects nowadays. I miss the old days when people used make-up and mechanical puppets.

Have you seen "The Void"? 80s style horror, but modern day and using practical effects. Exceedingly spare use of 'CGI' (really more compositing and duplication of figures in a frame), which is imperceptible.

I also agree, though, CGI needs to be used sparingly and in clever ways that don't draw attention to themselves. Practical is the best way to go in horror as the effects are so front-and-centre and drawing attention to themselves. CGI, no matter how good it is, is just pixels from a computer. We know it doesn't exist and we also know it wasn't present on the set. Practical effects, on the other hand, we still know they're not real events - but we do know that they physically existed on set with the actors to directly interact with.

CGI isn't bad outright, and there's some types of movies where you simply couldn't achieve them without it. The key thing is making sure the effects blend in with the overall look of the film in a way that is acceptable to the human eye.

LivingDeadGuy
26-May-2017, 04:09 PM
Have you seen "The Void"? 80s style horror, but modern day and using practical effects. Exceedingly spare use of 'CGI' (really more compositing and duplication of figures in a frame), which is imperceptible.

I also agree, though, CGI needs to be used sparingly and in clever ways that don't draw attention to themselves. Practical is the best way to go in horror as the effects are so front-and-centre and drawing attention to themselves. CGI, no matter how good it is, is just pixels from a computer. We know it doesn't exist and we also know it wasn't present on the set. Practical effects, on the other hand, we still know they're not real events - but we do know that they physically existed on set with the actors to directly interact with.

CGI isn't bad outright, and there's some types of movies where you simply couldn't achieve them without it. The key thing is making sure the effects blend in with the overall look of the film in a way that is acceptable to the human eye.

Nope have not seen it. I'll have to check it out someday. :)

And I think CGI can be good when used the right way but most movies now use nothing but CGI effects and it shows. Like you said there needs to be a kind of balance with special effects.

ProfessorChaos
27-May-2017, 06:26 AM
yeah, i almost feel bad for mr. romero these days. he was a very nice guy when i met him but seemed a bit sensitive to the fact that his newer films have been met with lukewarm reception at best.

given how ridiculous this concept sounds, i doubt it will even see the light of day.

dude made three legendary films that are among my all time favorites of any genre, but wow.....why would he even think this is something worth putting his name on?

Moon Knight
27-May-2017, 04:18 PM
Will always love George but no thanks on this.

What kills me is he slams The Walking Dead yet comes up with silliness like this. Smh.

shootemindehead
27-May-2017, 05:32 PM
He slammed 'The Walking Dead'?

JDP
27-May-2017, 06:20 PM
He slammed 'The Walking Dead'?

Yes, he did, in some interviews, he referred to it disparagingly as "a soap opera with zombies". Not only it's surprising considering that this TV show is much better in every respect (including plot, make-up and special effects) than all his post-80s zombie movie efforts, but a few years ago Romero was even actually a guest host for an AMC Halloween Special heavily promoting TWD!!!

LivingDeadGuy
27-May-2017, 10:48 PM
I have to agree with Romero on that one. I pretty much think of the show as a "soap opera about zombies" too and I lost interest after the first few episodes. Plus I'm getting sick of these shows and movies that call zombies everything but zombies. Things like walkers, stenches, and other sily labels. Like seriously you mean to tell me none of these characters have ever seen a zombie movie before? Even calling them ghouls would work but there's just this silly rule about not calling zombies "zombies". I don't get why. :rockbrow:

JDP
28-May-2017, 06:25 AM
I have to agree with Romero on that one. I pretty much think of the show as a "soap opera about zombies" too and I lost interest after the first few episodes. Plus I'm getting sick of these shows and movies that call zombies everything but zombies. Things like walkers, stenches, and other sily labels. Like seriously you mean to tell me none of these characters have ever seen a zombie movie before? Even calling them ghouls would work but there's just this silly rule about not calling zombies "zombies". I don't get why. :rockbrow:

But Romero himself started that trend. He avoided the word "zombie" in his movies, but he slipped up in Dawn where the word does appear.

LivingDeadGuy
28-May-2017, 06:56 AM
But Romero himself started that trend. He avoided the word "zombie" in his movies, but he slipped up in Dawn where the word does appear.

In Night and Day he came up with better terms than Land or any other zombie movie. In Night they were called "ghouls" or not really called anything at all and in Day they were called "specimens" because they were being studied by scientists.

But words like stenches and walkers just sound silly. They should just be referred to as zombies since everybody watching these movies and shows or playing these games knows that is what they are.

MinionZombie
28-May-2017, 10:43 AM
The idea is that in the TWD universe the entire concept of a "zombie" doesn't exist whatsoever in their world and culture.

If zombies happened in a world which knew a lot about zombies from their culture, the threat wouldn't be as severe.

Personally, while not all alternative names work, it's nice to not have to hear the word "zombie" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. :D I quite liked "stenches" from Land of the Dead, and "walkers" is the TWD exclusive term, so I'm quite happy with that.

It's like in any combat scenario where one side nicknames the other.

I've always felt labelling TWD as a "soap opera with zombies" is pretty darn lazy, to be quite frank. Soap operas involve convoluted plots about someone's half-twin brother coming back from the dead to marry an enemy from a rival family to enact some intricate financial revenge before bumping off their newlywed with their mistress, who turns out to be an undercover cop hired by the father of the recently dispatched newlywed ... and then it all turns out to be a dream and the newlywed's actually taking a shower. That's soap opera, and TWD ain't soap opera.

If you didn't give the characters in TWD something to live for, they'd be blank automatons and it'd just be hours of shooting walkers in the face over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. If the characters didn't make mistakes or wrong moves from time to time, or act selfishly (like we humans do in real life on a day-to-day basis), then various exciting events wouldn't unfold (this isn't excusing certain actions that haven't been well written in the show, some of which took place in the bumpy seventh season). Real life doesn't unfold in a perfect and convenient manner, and nor should TV drama.

JDP
28-May-2017, 02:38 PM
In Night and Day he came up with better terms than Land or any other zombie movie. In Night they were called "ghouls" or not really called anything at all and in Day they were called "specimens" because they were being studied by scientists.

But words like stenches and walkers just sound silly. They should just be referred to as zombies since everybody watching these movies and shows or playing these games knows that is what they are.

Before Land (where the word "zombies" is also used, BTW) Romero had already used many terms to avoid the word "zombie": "ghouls", "things", "creatures", "the dead", "monkey(s)", "pile(s) of walking pus", "rotten piles of garbage", "dumb-fucks", "bags of shit"... but then again in Dawn he had also used the very word he was trying to avoid in the first place.

LivingDeadGuy
28-May-2017, 04:04 PM
Edit: messed up this post. :(

JDP
28-May-2017, 04:30 PM
Yep he technically used the word in Land of the Dead too where in the zombie paintball shooting gallery in the entertainment area of Fiddler's Green had a sign that said "Shoot a Real Zombie" or something to that effect.

Kaufman also says the line "Zombies, man... they creep me out!"


And I wouldn't exactly call terms like "dumb-fucks" and "brainless monkeys" zombie labels because that was just soldiers insulting their enemy (the zombies). They could very well be calling their human foes those things.

Be that as it may, they refer to the zombies as such, never as "zombies". It's as if the characters in Day had never heard that word before. But we know for a fact that that word must exist in Romero's universe since Peter had already referred to them as such in Dawn.

LivingDeadGuy
28-May-2017, 05:43 PM
Kaufman also says the line "Zombies, man... they creep me out!"

Oh yeah, I forgot about that line. :D

nectarsis
30-May-2017, 04:57 AM
Where oh where has our beloved George gone *sigh*

LivingDeadGuy
30-May-2017, 05:41 PM
Where oh where has our beloved George gone *sigh*

Maybe he got bitten by one of his own zombies? :(

Thorn
01-Jun-2017, 06:34 PM
Anything is possible at this point, something happened and I am less than thrilled with most of his offerings after Day.

JDP
01-Jun-2017, 08:36 PM
Anything is possible at this point, something happened and I am less than thrilled with most of his offerings after Day.

Creepshow 2 (1987) was good, but he did not direct it (he wrote it, though.) His horror anthology TV show Tales from the Darkside (ran until 1988) also had cool episodes (some of them even feature music by the same people who composed the characteristic synthesizer score for Day of the Dead.) This shows that by the end of the 80s he was still not burned out. It is in the 90s that his decline started to increasingly show with each new effort.

Thorn
02-Jun-2017, 06:39 PM
Creepshow 2 (1987) was good, but he did not direct it (he wrote it, though.) His horror anthology TV show Tales from the Darkside (ran until 1988) also had cool episodes (some of them even feature music by the same people who composed the characteristic synthesizer score for Day of the Dead.) This shows that by the end of the 80s he was still not burned out. It is in the 90s that his decline started to increasingly show with each new effort.

Excellent points all

LivingDeadGuy
02-Jun-2017, 07:28 PM
He also directed the Japanese commercial for the game Resident Evil 2 back in the 1990's. It was prettt good.

MinionZombie
02-Jun-2017, 07:36 PM
I think the 1990s were a fairly torrid time for Romero career wise (from what I've gathered from various Romero interviews I've read/watched over the years) - lots of stalled projects, scripts that never made it to the screen, and so on. He was working on The Mummy for a while, but then the studio went in an entirely different direction and went for a big action spectacle rather than the (IIRC) more Karloff vibe Romero was going for.

Certain smaller projects were more successful - the aforementioned Resi 2 commercial, and he also directed the music video for "Scream" by the Misfits (which is what got me into that band) - but the bigger projects were more elusive. "The Dark Half" has some interesting bits in it (and I remember being quite creeped out by the trailer and promo images at the video rental shop back in the day), but it's not one of his better works. "Bruiser" (okay, that came out in 2000, but still) was decent ... again, there's room for improvement on that film and there's bits that don't really work at all, but there's various bits that do work really well (and the appearance by the Misfits in the third act as the band on stage at the party wins it a few points in my eyes :cool: ).

Moon Knight
03-Jun-2017, 05:08 PM
Once Romero left his original gorilla filming crew and hooked up with is mortal enemy- the corporate Hollywood production machine, it was all downhill from there.

LivingDeadGuy
03-Jun-2017, 05:21 PM
I agree, stupid Hollywood with their big budgets and botox and Beverly Hills mansions! :annoyed: