Night of the Living Dead 1968 "Rescore"

[beat_truck]

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I ran across this version of NOTLD '68 with a "new and improved":confused: soundtrack and thought I'd share. It doesn't seem badly done, but it's totally unnecessary and sticks out like a sore weiner after seeing the movie properly so many times. The opening sequence definitely seems to be Italian / Fabio Frizzi inspired.:stunned:

Why do people feel the need to mess with perfection?:annoyed:

It's like years ago when I bought a VHS copy of the 1931 version of Dracula, and found it had a ~65 year newer soundtrack tacked on.:mad:

[EvilNed]

Didn't they try this in the 30th anniversary edition too? But they only rescored the scenes without dialogue because they didn't have access to the original sound tapes?

Also this soundtrack sounds way 80's.
But I can sorta dig why you'd want to rescore it. I'm not a fan of library music - ever.

[Neil]

Immediately... Music score audio too loud!

It's, look what we did mum volume levels!

[Monrozombi]

i just had flashbacks to 1998 due to the title of this thread alone

[MinionZombie]

Ugh.

First version of Night that I got on DVD had a 'new' score slapped on it. Sounded shite.

This sounds totally askew tonally. As has been said, that opening track is heavily inspired by the themetunes to Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead (the latter of which was just a re-jigging of the Zombi 2 theme itself, for the most part).

I do recall there being a Giorgio Moroder re-score of Metropolis, although I've not seen it. I don't really see the point in re-scoring, personally, much like my disliking of audio tracks that get 'remastered' for surround sound (e.g. The Terminator, or Jaws, where in the former the gunshots are all messed up - the shotgun battle in the underpass is particularly shat all over - or in the case of Jaws you have "Smile you son of a BANG" instead of the actual word being heard. All those remasters have really loud, obnoxious-sounding 'glass breaking' effects, too. Anyone know what I'm talking about?). I always go for the original audio track - and likewise, it's the O.G. score or I'm not interested.

As for Night's library score, I think it sounds really good. Romero picked an excellent selection of tracks and used some unusual pieces in not-so-obvious contexts and really made it work. There's a groovy extra feature on the new Criterion Blu-Ray about the score.

[beat_truck]

Flashbacks to 1998 because of the 30th Anniversary Edition are completely understandable. I still get pissed when I think about buying that piece of shit, thinking it was going to be something great (or at least hopefully good), and seeing what a hideous abomination it really was.:mad: I'm pretty sure I threw my copy in the trash where it belonged.

I know exactly what Minion is talking about with the crappy "remastered" soundtracks and messed up effects.:rolleyes: The gunshots always stick out as big and boomy with an ultra wide stereo effect. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly comes immediately to mind. I think even my DVD of Zombie has some of this nonsence. I hate it, and would rather hear the original soundtrack and effects even if they were low-fi.

One of the worst things I ever had the displeasure of seeing was a VHS box set of the John Wayne short films from the '30s that I made the mistake of buying. They actually changed the titles and credit sequences, did a gawdy looking colorizing job, and added new tacky soundtracks and sound effects.:barf: Another total WTF were they thinking moment. I guess those were also in Public Domain like NOTLD, so anyone could fuck them up any way they see fit and sell them for a profit.:(

[JonOfTheShred]

I thought this was cool. I actually did an interview with these guys about it on The Blood Shed.

[EvilNed]

I thought this was cool. I actually did an interview with these guys about it on The Blood Shed.

The movie that really needs a rescore, though, is Survival of the Dead. I've said it numerous times, one of the things really dragging that film down is the soundtrack. It's all Danny Elfman sounding, making the tone of the film all wrong. If that movie had a proper 80's synth sound it'd be far more effective and creepy, I guarantee it.

I remember the leadup to Survival when there was a lot of hype surrounding John Harrisons statements that he'd score the film. In the end he didn't, but it'd be interesting to see what he'd do with it.
The thing is film scores these days aren't used the same as back in the day. These days you just hire a composer to compose a few cues that you then attach to the film on your own. There's little synchrocity between image and music.
This mostly applies to low budget films of course, big budget hollywood films still score the film the old fashioned way.

[JonOfTheShred]

Wow, that would have been amazing! John Harrison's score for Day of the Dead was just phenomenal. Probably my favorite OST for any zombie movie. I think it worked even better than Goblin's music for Dawn. (Probably because John used steel drums in his score, so it made it feel tropical.) NOTLD 1990 had an amazing score as well.

[EvilNed]

Hmm, I thought Night 1990 had a horrible score...
In fact the main reason I never watch it anymore is because of the score.

Interesting to hear that you're a musician tho. Did not know that.

[beat_truck]

I thought NOTLD '90 had a decent score. Not great, but it seemed to fit the movie well.

Ever see the work print version? It had a score that was bits and pieces lifted from other movies like The Evil Dead and Halloween II.

[MinionZombie]

Yeah, I'm kinda iffy about the Night90 score, as well. Some of it works really well (like the end credits theme), but other parts sound a bit ... ... eh ... ... such as the opening credits. It feels too light and delicate, a 'bit TV', and doesn't really command anything. The opening theme in the original 68 version really takes charge of the opening sequence (while never entirely drowning it out), but in the remake it feels flimsy, if that makes sense? It's kinda hard to describe.

Like I said, some of the Night90 score work, but other bits don't at all so it's a very mixed bag.

[EvilNed]

Yeah, I'm kinda iffy about the Night90 score, as well. Some of it works really well (like the end credits theme), but other parts sound a bit ... ... eh ... ... such as the opening credits. It feels too light and delicate, a 'bit TV', and doesn't really command anything. The opening theme in the original 68 version really takes charge of the opening sequence (while never entirely drowning it out), but in the remake it feels flimsy, if that makes sense? It's kinda hard to describe.

Like I said, some of the Night90 score work, but other bits don't at all so it's a very mixed bag.

Now that I think about it, yeah some bits work. But overall it relies too much on extremely cheap sounding synth effects that rival something I'd expect from something like an early SeaQuest episode or something like that.

Never seen the Workprint. I guess I'd like too, but I'd rather just they revisited it and released an unrated version with the gore inserted back in and a new music score. That'd make it a top-tier zombieflick.

[JonOfTheShred]

I love the NOTLD 1990 soundtrack. The synth gurgles and groans are very unsettling in a very cheesy way.

[beat_truck]

Never seen the Workprint. I guess I'd like too, but I'd rather just they revisited it and released an unrated version with the gore inserted back in and a new music score. That'd make it a top-tier zombieflick.
There really isn't much of any extra gore to see, to be honest. A handful of extended gunshot to the head/crow bar to the head shots is about it, equaling all of about 10 seconds. The work print has some different/extended dialog and a slightly different opening, but nothing impressive.

Edit: Here is the added gore. Although I think the scene towards the beginning where Ben puts the crowbar through the zombie's head and it breaks the door glass is a half a second longer, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58GF4Ekov0

[EvilNed]

There really isn't much of any extra gore to see, to be honest. A handful of extended gunshot to the head/crow bar to the head shots is about it, equaling all of about 10 seconds. The work print has some different/extended dialog and a slightly different opening, but nothing impressive.

Edit: Here is the added gore. Although I think the scene towards the beginning where Ben puts the crowbar through the zombie's head and it breaks the door glass is a half a second longer, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58GF4Ekov0

They cut THAT stuff to get an R?
Except for the head explosion, that's hardly anything excessive.

[Monrozombi]

i was really hoping for a 20th anniversary release of the 30th anniversary edition of NOTLD...esp w/ the soundtrack on vinyl

[beat_truck]

They cut THAT stuff to get an R?
Except for the head explosion, that's hardly anything excessive.

Yep. Completely ridiculous. The movie was fairly tame even compared to TWD, except for using the F word a few times.

The MPAA obviously had their panties in a major knot at the time.:rolleyes:

[MinionZombie]

They cut THAT stuff to get an R?
Except for the head explosion, that's hardly anything excessive.

I know! A couple of juicy headshots, but not much more than that. The MPAA are weird.


i was really hoping for a 20th anniversary release of the 30th anniversary edition of NOTLD...esp w/ the soundtrack on vinyl

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Yep. Completely ridiculous. The movie was fairly tame even compared to TWD, except for using the F word a few times.

The MPAA obviously had their panties in a major knot at the time.:rolleyes:

The MPAA had just come off a decade of slasher movies, to which they regularly whipped out their censorious scissors to hack and slash at the gory bits. Even though Night is a very different type of film, they had it in for horror movies, but considering some of the stuff that did make it through the 80s untouched - e.g. Maniac - it's really surprising that these few snippets had to be hacked out. Perhaps the MPAA's panties were in such a bunch that all the blood had got cut off to their brains? :rolleyes:

[Moon Knight]

"Cooper!, open this door you motherfucker or I'll blow it to shit!"

I think NotLD's score is perfect.

[Neil]

I thought NOTLD '90 had a decent score. Not great, but it seemed to fit the movie well.

Ever see the work print version? It had a score that was bits and pieces lifted from other movies like The Evil Dead and Halloween II.

Yeh, it was OK... Good moments and some less so...

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[bassman]

If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. I love it the way it is and hearing anything else in its place just doesn’t work, IMO.

[MinionZombie]

If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. I love it the way it is and hearing anything else in its place just doesn’t work, IMO.

Aye. What would I rather have - the music that Romero himself specifically chose and placed within the movie, or something done by folks not connected to the movie that is more than 10 years askew in terms of tone? No contest. I don't 'get' re-scores at all, personally.

[JDP]

Aye. What would I rather have - the music that Romero himself specifically chose and placed within the movie, or something done by folks not connected to the movie that is more than 10 years askew in terms of tone? No contest. I don't 'get' re-scores at all, personally.

There's also the issue that some of the music that Romero chose for Night was from another movie that must have had an influence on some of his ideas for Night: The Killer Shrews. I think the music Romero chose is as integral a part of Night as any other feature of the film, so it should not be tampered with.

[beat_truck]

The music used in Night was used in a number of movies. I even remember hearing it in some late '50s western that I watched with my dad years ago. Speaking of The Killer Shrews, I just watched that a few months ago. Pure cinematic cheese, but WAY more enjoyable to me than nearly all the new multi million dollar CGI crap fests.

[JDP]

The music used in Night was used in a number of movies. I even remember hearing it in some late '50s western that I watched with my dad years ago. Speaking of The Killer Shrews, I just watched that a few months ago. Pure cinematic cheese, but WAY more enjoyable to me than nearly all the new multi million dollar CGI crap fests.

So far I can only remember hearing some of those tracks in The Killer Shrews. It would be interesting to know what other movies used it before Romero. I think he likely got the idea of using those tracks from that movie, though, since some things in Night seem inspired by that movie as well.

[beat_truck]

Form what I just read on one site, some of the soundtrack is supposed to be used in Teenagers From Outer Space and The Hideous Sun Demon. If one had the time and inclination, they could probably use this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063350/soundtrack to track down a few other movies it was used in.