Season Nine Trailer

[bassman]

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Andrew Lincoln has also confirmed that this is in fact his final season with the show....


“This will be my last season playing the part of Rick Grimes. I love this show. It means everything to me. I love the people who make this show. I’m particularly fond of the people who watch this show.”

[JDP]

Wow! Major spoiler confirmed!

[beat_truck]

It actually looks better than I expected. They probably showed all the good stuff and the rest will be the filler we are used to.

[Moon Knight]

First eight are going to be very eventful. I’m guessing first few will be dealing with the groups inner conflict from last season which will somehow lead into the exit of two of our main characters, followed by the introduction of a group of newcomers, then concluded with the Whisperers.

[MinionZombie]

There's a shot of boots - seemingly Rick's? - with blood dribbling on the ground.

I'd really hope that Rick doesn't die, but instead heads off into the apocalypse to try and find something bigger - like head to D.C. in search of government bunkers or something.

Has there been any official word on Lauren Cohan and Maggie?

So much behind-the-scenes bullshit has really tainted this show for me, which is inexcuseable on AMC's part. The departure of Lincoln makes killing off Carl an even stupider idea now. Had Rick been still there leading it wouldn't have been too bad, but losing both Grimes boys? Come on.

Anyway, that aside, the trailer does look good and restored some of the fandom in me that had been tainted by AMC's bullshit (penny pinching corporate executives with no creative bone in their body sticking their oar in?). The fallout from All Out War with fragile alliances and old beefs should provide some good drama, but aye, I do hope we don't get a load of filler. Angela Kang hasn't half been handed a wounded franchise, so I wish her the best of luck captaining this creaky ship.

Ideally Gimple would have been replaced at the end of Season 7 and Carl would still be alive ... some other dimension has that version of events, the lucky gits.

The deaf lady - interesting - we've not really seen disabilities in the apocalypse (I'd assume that many would succumb to the walkers - e.g. immobile, or can't move as fast, or needing medicines that are no longer available etc etc etc) ... obviously she's got a buddy to translate who no doubt plays the part of their ears, to put it bluntly, but that'll be interesting to see in the context of the ZA. Unless she's actually mute and just uses sign language to communicate, I'm assuming that the character is deaf as that seems most likely from the clip we saw.

Glimpses at a few set pieces that should be fun - walking on the glass walkway, the piles of logs tumbling down etc.

Anyway, I'm gonna have a few more views of that trailer and catch up on various panels (including TWD).

[Moon Knight]

That deaf character is Connie from the comic and the actress that plays her really is deaf. I personally love how they altered the character.

[MinionZombie]

That deaf character is Connie from the comic and the actress that plays her really is deaf. I personally love how they altered the character.

I've struggled to keep tabs on the new characters that were introduced after All Out War in the comic, or a fair number of them anyway, as so many of them look kinda samey or their names aren't mentioned enough, or whatever, they're maybe not as well defined visually and characteristically as they once were. Of course, if also doesn't help that I'm only reading the trade paperbacks - so that's twice a year - therefore it's so easy to forget who the hell so many of these supporting players are. It's easier to follow such folks on a TV show.

Connie doesn't ring a bell at the moment, was she deaf in the comic or have they added that element? Either way I'm quite intrigued to see what they do with her.

Other things...

Them stealing an old wagon from a museum (as it's now a valuable and practical object/tool for them) looks cool, and what that represents. Seems that Alexandria is still hanging in there and getting rebuilt (I'd wondered if, after the bombardment of the town in Season 8, they might ditch the location altogether to save cash or something and trim down on locations), and Negan is certainly in the cell that was built back in season six IIRC (the door opening is from another location, but was likely chosen as a good intro and feels jail-like).

I noticed a shot of Rick with a wound seemingly on his side, during the shots on that bridge, so I'm assuming that will tie-in with the 'boots walking, blood dripping' shot I mentioned earlier.

The best we can hope for is if Rick heads off on some sort of mission (thus remains alive) and then makes a triumphant return for the final episode(s) of the entire run ... but I doubt we'll be that lucky. :( Losing Rick would be a less bitter pill to swallow if Carl was still around to take over his mantle - it would have made total narrative and thematic sense to see that passage from one leader to the next, from one generation to the next ... but nope ... that all got fucked. :mad:

Annnnnnnywaaaaaaaaay ... it'll be interesting to see some cross-mixing of characters from different groups, seeing new friendships, allegiances, relationships, and clashes brewing between disparate folks. Seems some Saviours are getting along quite well with their former enemies (the lady with the neck tattoo seemed happy in one particular shot).

Even with talk of rebooting and reinvention and such, they need an end game in-mind. Continuing this show for another 8 seasons just isn't gonna happen I don't think, and I wouldn't really want to see it linger that long (because, let's be honest, how many of the early cast will bother hanging around that long?) Gimple kinda irritates with all that twitchy vagueness whenever he answers questions, trying to be all cryptic in his answers - if you can't say anything (as you so often can't, because of spoilers etc, like every other show and movie that turns up at Comic-Con) then just say so, cut the waffle. "Chapter 1", eh? Well let's hope it's a two chapter book, and chapter two is shorter than the first, because I don't want to see TWD driven into the ground as a dried-out husk with no long-running characters left.

I would like to see, towards the end of the run, some more time jumps - for instance, I'd like to see Judith grow up to take the place in the narrative that Carl should have done. You could have episodes that show large passages of time, seeing the world and characters change before our eyes, moving the TWD world forward into the future inside the show (if that makes sense), and then leave it there perhaps.

Also - am I the only one who did NOT hear whispering at the end amidst the walkers passing by? I tried listening closely but didn't hear any damn whispers, but they flat out said there was whispering during the panel discussion.

[facestabber]

The trailer did grab my interest. But being honest with myself Rick is and always has been the show for me. I could have found a way to accept his death if Carl was around. I don't know if I will continue to watch. Sad sad day.

Minion the whisperers are there. I didn't hear it at first but once directed where I could hear it. It's gargles like a zombie as it speaks. Eugene hears it and reacts. Pretty chilling.

[MinionZombie]

Minion the whisperers are there. I didn't hear it at first but once directed where I could hear it. It's gargles like a zombie as it speaks. Eugene hears it and reacts. Pretty chilling.

I'll have to have another listen, then.

Apparently we're gonna get scenes where a lot of the key players are together on screen again, which we've not really had much of for a long time, so that'll be nice before we have our hearts ripped out with Rick's departure (however that takes place).

I've been hearing "it's like a western" getting thrown around a lot from the creators and cast, so that's something to look forward to. With that in mind it'd be cool, maybe, to see - at some point - John Dorie rock up in true cowboy fashion. But that's just a random idea.

[Moon Knight]

I went back gave it another listen and yes in fact they do say “Where are they?” They make themeselves sound like the actual walkers. It did give me goosebumps. The way Eugene reacted and the music cue was also confirmation they heard something.

Connie was not deaf in the comic. Her boyfriend was Kelly but in the show they genderswapped him and is now her sister. I like the change.

I feel you on the characters in the books, MZ. Way too many and hard to follow. I think the show does a way better job on getting you to care about them.

[shootemindehead]

Looks interesting, but I just cannot see myself sticking with the show, once Rick leaves. He's the lynchpin holding everything together and there's nobody there to take his place. Every other character is a secondary, even Carol, who's probably my favourite TWD character.

Can't even see the show lasting longer itself, once Rick is out of the picture. It's possible that it'll limp along until it dies. But, that'll be a poor way for the show to go out.

[MinionZombie]

I went back gave it another listen and yes in fact they do say “Where are they?” They make themeslebee sound like the actual walkers. It did give me goosebumps. The way Eugene reacted and the music cue was also confirmation they heard something.

I feel you on the characters in the books, MZ. Way too many and hard to follow. I think the show does a way better job on getting you to care about them.

1) Ah! Now I hear it, knowing what was said. Yeah, that seems a pretty nifty way of doing it. I do hope they make some solid changes to The Whisperers storyline as I was never that fussed about it in the comics, but of course they will need to make certain big changes what with Carl not being around. :rolleyes: Perhaps Enid could step in to his shoes in that plotline?

2) The show has the immediate benefits of a different format - so we get moving images in colour with sound. The people look a lot different in-person on-screen than they do as 2D images on the page in stark black and white, plus you get the actors' voices etc, plus the benefit of recognising the actor from other things to differentiate them from the cast. Certain supporting players could be name-checked in the scripts a bit more, mind you, as there are several ones whose name I can't recall (e.g. neck tattoo lady).

[facestabber]

Looks interesting, but I just cannot see myself sticking with the show, once Rick leaves. He's the lynchpin holding everything together and there's nobody there to take his place. Every other character is a secondary, even Carol, who's probably my favourite TWD character.

Can't even see the show lasting longer itself, once Rick is out of the picture. It's possible that it'll limp along until it dies. But, that'll be a poor way for the show to go out.

It's truly a crime the Gimple turned out to be a moron. Keep Carl alive, sign everyone through season 9 and close out the Grimes chapter and TWD. Then pump that money into Fear. Rick and Carl deserved so much more respect. I'm just gutted by the way everything has played out.

[Moon Knight]

Not happy Rick is leaving but of course I can surely hope they do change the Whisperer arc for the better. Carl’s Romeo and Juliet storyline that kicked off that arc was very lackluster and I’m sure TV fans would have shitted on that too.

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It's truly a crime the Gimple turned out to be a moron. Keep Carl alive, sign everyone through season 9 and close out the Grimes chapter and TWD. Then pump that money into Fear. Rick and Carl deserved so much more respect. I'm just gutted by the way everything has played out.

I can agree with that.

[JDP]

For those still wondering about where the "whisperers" can be heard in the clip: @5:17 to 5:25

[Moon Knight]

Going by the trailer there is in fact two big time jumps.

[MinionZombie]

Going by the trailer there is in fact two big time jumps.

Oh aye? How so? I know we've had a timejump of around about a year since 8x16, but a second time jump? Where did you spot that? Colour me intrigued!

[Moon Knight]

Oh aye? How so? I know we've had a timejump of around about a year since 8x16, but a second time jump? Where did you spot that? Colour me intrigued!

The last section of the season trailers are always reserved for the last few episodes of the first half. We see Gabriel with a clean shaven face for most of the trailer. In the last few minutes after the date reveal we are introduced to Magna and her group. During this section Gabriel had a full goatee. Also, this was Rick in the source material and with Rick gone they slid Gabriel in this spot; welcoming our new characters to the group via the interview. And when Eugene and Rosita come across the Whisperers in the final moments you can see Eugene using a cane when earlier in the trailer he did not.

So in short, the first six is Rick and Maggie’s arc, the last couple we jump time again and introduce the new survivors and the Whisperers.

As you may recall, Magna and her group introduce us to The New Beginnning arc after the time skip. I believe this is happening after Rick is gone and time has once again passed; giving us a look at how life in Alexandria is after Rick.

[MinionZombie]

The last section of the season trailers are always reserved for the last few episodes of the first half. We see Gabriel with a clean shaven face for most of the trailer. In the last few minutes after the date reveal we are introduced to Magna and her group. During this section Gabriel had a full goatee. Also, this was Rick in the source material and with Rick gone they slid Gabriel in this spot; welcoming our new characters to the group via the interview. And when Eugene and Rosita come across the Whisperers in the final moments you can see Eugene using a cane when earlier in the trailer he did not.

So in short, the first six is Rick and Maggie’s arc, the last couple we jump time again and introduce the new survivors and the Whisperers.

As you may recall, Magna and her group introduce us to The New Beginnning arc after the time skip. I believe this is happening after Rick is gone and time has once again passed; giving us a look at how life in Alexandria is after Rick.

Ahh, good catch on Gabriel's beard situation.

Although I believe that what Eugene tosses down into the mud seems to be a spade rather than a cane (look at the handle, and if you watch very closely you can see the light catch the metal of the spade head).

TWD without Rick still bums me out big time. :(

I wonder how/why Lincoln's departure came about - what was the big push for it? The way that Chandler Riggs was treated? Some corporate exec pinching pennies? A combination? I can't imagine the writers would seek to kill off Rick by choice, but I can easily picture some corporate bozo passing the order down the line and then the writers have to figure out how to handle it as best they can. :(

[beat_truck]

It also really pisses me off that they are letting Andrew Lincoln leave (not to mention Chandler Riggs), but they paid out a butt load of money to keep Norman Reedus on just so he can grunt once in a while and look greasy. Forget the story, gotta keep the moronic Daryl fan boys and girls happy.:rolleyes:

[facestabber]

Ahh, good catch on Gabriel's beard situation.

Although I believe that what Eugene tosses down into the mud seems to be a spade rather than a cane (look at the handle, and if you watch very closely you can see the light catch the metal of the spade head).

TWD without Rick still bums me out big time. :(

I wonder how/why Lincoln's departure came about - what was the big push for it? The way that Chandler Riggs was treated? Some corporate exec pinching pennies? A combination? I can't imagine the writers would seek to kill off Rick by choice, but I can easily picture some corporate bozo passing the order down the line and then the writers have to figure out how to handle it as best they can. :(


Ahh, good catch on Gabriel's beard situation.

Although I believe that what Eugene tosses down into the mud seems to be a spade rather than a cane (look at the handle, and if you watch very closely you can see the light catch the metal of the spade head).

TWD without Rick still bums me out big time. :(

I wonder how/why Lincoln's departure came about - what was the big push for it? The way that Chandler Riggs was treated? Some corporate exec pinching pennies? A combination? I can't imagine the writers would seek to kill off Rick by choice, but I can easily picture some corporate bozo passing the order down the line and then the writers have to figure out how to handle it as best they can. :(

Regarding Lincolns departure. I'm sure there are multiple factors and IMO the way Riggs was told he would be a part of the shows future and then months later Gimple told him Carl's gonna die, was probably the icing on the cake. Lincoln doesn't seem to be the type that will sling mud while his friends are still on a show that I believe he still cares about. After the show finally ends I'm sure there will be a tell all book where the cast fills us in on some shady shit. Let's face it, this show has had controversy from the start. AMC slashing the budget right off the bat going into season 2.

[Moon Knight]

Lincoln already addressed all that. He went to Gimple back in season 4 and addressed his desire on leaving. He said they knew going in he couldn’t play a character on a tv show that basically has a unlimited shelf life in the comic. So there we have it. It’s been in motion for quite some time.

http://https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/amp/2018/07/21/the-walking-dead-andrew-lincoln-deciding-to-leave/ (http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/amp/2018/07/21/the-walking-dead-andrew-lincoln-deciding-to-leave/)

Links never work for me, perhaps one of the fine mods here can hook it up.

[MinionZombie]

After The Walking Dead's panel, ComicBook.com attended a press conference with the show's stars and producers, and Lincoln was asked about his decision to leave the series, particularly when he started thinking about his exit.

"Well nine years I was thinking about it because that's where we live," Lincoln joked. "But I suppose it was a lot to do with the conversation that Scott and I had a few years ago, maybe in Season 4, about the shape and finding a way to complete something that was never going to be completed and not disturbing the mothership. There was a certain sense that the story has been a man waking up and you experience this world through this one man's eyes and then it opens up into the extended family. Now, what's exciting for me is that the narrative is being freed up from the beginning of the season. You'll see in the trailer, it's a different tone. It feels like the show I always thought that we would head toward from the time we wrapped the pilot. So yeah, in short, it was something that I starting to think about as my children got older and less portable."

Lincoln is obviously referring to the finality of the show versus that of the comic book, which will likely continue running long after the TV series comes to a close. With no end in sight, the show had to find some way to bring Rick's story to a close, and it looks like that will finally happen in Season 9.

I was watching the fan Q&A bit of the panel and he addressed this family aspect a bit as well. This is part and parcel of the trouble with a long running show, the actors and everyone else making it have real lives going on, so it should be taken into account from the get-go. The trouble with TWD is that it just keeps going on and on - the likes of Kirkman and Gimple cheerily saying it could go on for hundreds more issues/twenty-plus seasons has always rankled me.

Another interesting bit in that Q&A portion was JDM's response to Carl being killed off - clearly he thought he was going to get to play more of the Negan/Carl stuff, but that didn't happen and, albeit with a cheery tone, labelled Rigg's/Carl's departure as "abrupt" (but you could hear a layer of sarcasm beneath it all, as in he wasn't chuffed with Carl getting dispatched).

As we've already said, if at least Carl was still alive then you'd have a whole expansive arc there to see the son inherit his father's deeds - that would have been fascinating to see, and almost like a King passing his kingdom onto his heir ... ... so much for that! :mad:

Interesting that they have been aware of this notion that Lincoln couldn't keep playing the character forever, but curious that they rarely dared to mention such a thing for all these years, and galling that they didn't think more about it and allowed it to just kind of stumble to this point rather than really writing towards this point - keeping Carl alive to inherit Rick's world.

[Moon Knight]

Thanks, MZ.

I would have liked if Carl stuck around. I guess they weren’t confident with his acting to help carry the show.

Norman also debunked the rumors of his 20 million dollar pay raise and said no one is going to take over after Andy.

[facestabber]

Lincoln already addressed all that. He went to Gimple back in season 4 and addressed his desire on leaving. He said they knew going in he couldn’t play a character on a tv show that basically has a unlimited shelf life in the comic. So there we have it. It’s been in motion for quite some time.

http://https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/amp/2018/07/21/the-walking-dead-andrew-lincoln-deciding-to-leave/ (http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/amp/2018/07/21/the-walking-dead-andrew-lincoln-deciding-to-leave/)

Links never work for me, perhaps one of the fine mods here can hook it up.

Understandable regarding Lincoln. But the question still exists as to why now? I don't think we will get that answer for quite some time. I think there are many variables. Was he bored? Does he see the decline in the story? After Carl's death he stated that he was struggling to find what Rick Grimes motivation was now that Lori and Carl were gone(no disrespect to Judith)haha. Not arguing Moon just very curious what all is involved. Boy do I hope he disappears ala Heath so the capacity to return, even at the very end, exists.

[Moon Knight]

Understandable regarding Lincoln. But the question still exists as to why now? I don't think we will get that answer for quite some time. I think there are many variables. Was he bored? Does he see the decline in the story? After Carl's death he stated that he was struggling to find what Rick Grimes motivation was now that Lori and Carl were gone(no disrespect to Judith)haha. Not arguing Moon just very curious what all is involved. Boy do I hope he disappears ala Heath so the capacity to return, even at the very end, exists.

No, it’s a good question, dude, no worries. I’m assuming “The New Beginning” arc was the best possible time to do it. A big time jump and a fresh start for the show. Also, at this point, it’s closing in to an entire decade of working on the show. You can tell Andy loves his cast and crew and the fans in general. Doubt it was anything malicious behind the scenes.

He also said because he’s going doesn’t necessarily means he dies. Don’t know how much I believe that, but why give the fans such false hope? We’ll see. I’m really intrigued and bummed at the same time. Bitter sweet.

[MinionZombie]

At the very least I want Rick to leave the show alive so he can come back for the end. But then what about poor little Judith?

[JDP]

At the very least I want Rick to leave the show alive so he can come back for the end. But then what about poor little Judith?

Maybe he takes her with him wherever he ends up going. One would suppose that if given a choice, he would not abandon his daughter.

[facestabber]

At the very least I want Rick to leave the show alive so he can come back for the end. But then what about poor little Judith?

I think the fans absolutely deserve this. We started this ride with Rick Grimes. Fans tuned in because they became invested in Rick. If they kill him, it's not necessary or forgiveable.

[Moon Knight]

Maybe Rick, Judith, Maggie, and Maggie’s baby all leave together? Doesn’t make sense but with Rick AND Maggie only appearing in the first six something is up.

[MinionZombie]

Maybe Rick, Judith, Maggie, and Maggie’s baby all leave together? Doesn’t make sense but with Rick AND Maggie only appearing in the first six something is up.

Hmmm ... that's an intriguing idea!

[shootemindehead]

I think a good way to have it, for Rick to leave, maybe to go and look for another group or something.

Killing him off will absolutely kill the show stone dead.

Keeping him alive gives everyone the chance to patch up whatever it is that kicked off this bailing desire from Lincoln. I don't quite believe the smokescreen that's been put out and I'm too long in the tooth to simply buy any damage limitation stories. Something is very wrong behind the scenes here and over the years there has been plenty of evidence that AMC's handling of the people involved with the show has been less than stellar, shall we say.

[Moon Knight]

The way I see it, there are many factors concerning Rick’s character arc for season 9.

I believe Gabriel and Anne will play a part somehow. Lots of promo images show Gabriel and Anne together and so did the trailer. Looks like Anne also goes back to her junkyard for some business. Having Gabriel in comic Rick’s position welcoming in the new characters is also very telling on Gabriel’s new position within Alexandria after the big time jump.

The helicopter. Again, with Anne, we see the helicopter make another appearance. Is that why Anne goes back to the junkyard? The same symbol on the can of food she was eating last season was also on the helicopter in the trailer; as well as that damn letter A. The copter was also on the official season 9 Poster.

Not to mention we first see the Helicopter for the first time last season through Rick’s eyes. Somehow, they will all be connected.

Perhaps somehow something happens to Maggie and Rick is to blame? Rick leaves on the whirley bird soon after? Will Rick’s story continue on the long rumored movie??

Ok, that last one was a bit much.

[bassman]

Ryan Hurst(Sons of Anarchy, Bates Motel) has been cast as Beta. Fans of the comics know that this means The Whisperers arc is coming to the show soon.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sons-of-anarchy-alum-ryan-hurst-to-join-the-walking-dead-for-season-9-113

[MinionZombie]

The Whisperers arc was a bit iffy in the comics, so I really hope Kang & Co strip out the nonsense and inject some reality into it so it makes better sense. I don't want another Heapsters, in other words. :D

I seem to recall recently reading a quote from Lauren Cohan that seemed to suggest that when Maggie leaves TWD it won't be by death ... intriguing.

[MinionZombie]

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A new promo with a bunch of new shots of their new world being built. "Rick Grimes' final episodes" as they say ... they really never should have killed off Carl now. *sigh*

Anyway - the Rick Grimes situation aside (hopefully he doesn't die, but somehow disappears along with Maggie for unknown reasons - that way they can both return when the show wraps up), I am very interested to see what Angela Kang & Co are going to do with the post-AOW & post-time-jump setting.

[Suicycho]

I don't think they had the time jump planned out for this season when they wrote season 8. I suspect one of the main reasons they killed off Carl was because Chandler was aging out of the part.

And then Andrew decides he wants to leave the show so they decide to do a time jump, which pretty much eliminates the need to worry about Chandler aging too quickly.

[MinionZombie]

I don't think they had the time jump planned out for this season when they wrote season 8. I suspect one of the main reasons they killed off Carl was because Chandler was aging out of the part.

And then Andrew decides he wants to leave the show so they decide to do a time jump, which pretty much eliminates the need to worry about Chandler aging too quickly.

The time jump was part of the comics after All Out War, IIRC the length of time was even longer in the comics. So it was always in the pipeline, especially as we need to see a clear difference between the first few post-AOW weeks (glimpsed in TWD 8x16 and FearTWD 4x01) and then how they have rebuilt their little cluster of villages, for lack of a better term, in the long-term wake of AOW.

They could have done more/longer time jumps throughout the previous seven seasons but didn't, so I don't think Riggs' ageing had anything to do with it. They'd written towards his growing as a young man into the scripts, and really leaned into that in seasons 7 and 8.

The death of Carl served one purpose - to cover up a plot logic gap a mile wide in the comics: having Rick convert from wanting to kill Negan to wanting to incarcerate him and find a different and better way forward (unlike in previous battles where it had simply been "just kill 'em". It's all part of a re-evolution of civilisation post-ZA, so they go from savage ways to more civilised ways (hence Negan's imprisonment). However, now that Rick is leaving the death of Carl seems very much like a stupid move (more so with the rumours of behind the scenes troubles, which smacked of some high up corporate exec seeing only numbers on their iPad instead of having any ounce of understanding for the narrative, the audience, or the cast & crew).

Now, they could have found a better way to resolve that logic gap from the comics without killing Carl, but some lucky sods in another dimension have got that version. Indeed, I'm excited to see how the show feels with a new showrunner and I'd argue that Gimple moved aside one season too late.

[bassman]

Honestly, it’s sad just how little I care or anticipate this show now. I want it to be like the old days where I’m clamorong for any bit of news, but it’s all faded because of the poor handling behind the scenes. And from what I’m hearing around town here in Atlanta, these recent big deaths of Carl and Rick are just the beginning. We might as well consider The Walking Dead, at least in this original incarnation, to be over. In the VERY near future it’s going to be nothing but AMC exploiting the title of TWD.

I’d already considered the end of last season to be a good series finale, and everything I’ve heard since has only solidified that opinion...

[facestabber]

Honestly, it’s sad just how little I care or anticipate this show now. I want it to be like the old days where I’m clamorong for any bit of news, but it’s all faded because of the poor handling behind the scenes. And from what I’m hearing around town here in Atlanta, these recent big deaths of Carl and Rick are just the beginning. We might as well consider The Walking Dead, at least in this original incarnation, to be over. In the VERY near future it’s going to be nothing but AMC exploiting the title of TWD.

I’d already considered the end of last season to be a good series finale, and everything I’ve heard since has only solidified that opinion...

Its definitely lost its magic. That is sad because IMO the actors never mailed it in. I believe they have given their best efforts but the story just hasn't matched their efforts. Season 1 was just an amazing jolt of greatness. Though short, I was over the moon with anticipation that Season 2 was green lit. IMO the magic hit stratosphere through season 2 and specifically Beside the Dying Fire, when Michonne was introduced and the final shot was the prison looming in the distance. I was out of my mind excited about what this show had become. Between seasons 3, 4, and 5 I felt that power there. Somewhere during 5 and 6 I feel things start to fade a bit. I will start S9 and hope for the best but they are taking my reason for loving this show even beyond Romero's work, Rick Grimes. I know the date which airs his exit and I(feel embarassed to say) have anxiety about watching it.

[MinionZombie]

Apparently, in addition to Shane coming back for an appearance in flashback form, we're also going to be getting appearances from Hershel and Sasha - so says Angela Kang. Intriguing!

[Moon Knight]

Apparently, in addition to Shane coming back for an appearance in flashback form, we're also going to be getting appearances from Hershel and Sasha - so says Angela Kang. Intriguing!

Where is Tyreese, dammit!

[bassman]

I won’t be tuning in if they don’t bring abuela back!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/f/fb/Abuela_Vatos.png/revision/latest?cb=20131130151353