Star Trek Strange New Worlds (TV Series)

[Neil]

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[shootemindehead]

I'm so sick of Star Trek.

[paranoid101]

Best Star Trek series on at the moment is Lower Decks on Amazon Prime.

[JDP]

I'm so sick of Star Trek.

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[shootemindehead]

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[EvilNed]

Discovery was really lackluster and never really settled on what it's focus was. Season 2 was the only coherent one, in my mind. All that Mirror Universe-stuff was superfluous and most of the characters are so poorly written and acted. Like the protagonist who consistently goes against Starfleet but is always right and always redeemed by her actions. Or the evil emperor Georgiou who interacts with everyone as if she's a villain in a daytime soap opera. Yikes.

Picard was alright.

But this I have high hopes for.

[Neil]

Reviews seem to be +ve so can but hope...

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OK... Watched the 1st episode.

Did a pretty good job, and seems to have a lot of potential. Clearly difficult to be set before Star Trek, yet have tech more impressive than glowing gems on a control panel for todays modern audience, but they seem to have found a happy middle ground.


Note: Why is it these folks feel compelled to push their agendas into anything and everything they can. In a section discussing a third world war that happened back on Earth, do they show footage of conflict, tanks, planes, huge explosions? Wouldn't that set the scene? They use images of people with anti-Biden placards etc? Because I assume nothing says apocalypse more than those damn 'MAGA folks!' Rediculous! Hopefully no more political nonsense in this series now...

[EvilNed]

Star Trek has always had a very, very topical agenda. I see no incongruence between this and old Trek. I like it, but the Pilot wasn't amazing. Feels very TOS though, and if that continues it's going to be a very good thing.

[Neil]

Star Trek has always had a very, very topical agenda. I see no incongruence between this and old Trek. I like it, but the Pilot wasn't amazing. Feels very TOS though, and if that continues it's going to be a very good thing.

It did have a real vibe of the original series. So bit of a shame it felt the need to pi$$ over so much of the original series canon. eg: From the outset we now have Vulcans engaged in romance and sex? That was never a thing in the original series, where if they even touched fingers that was a big thing :) And let alone have sex other than during Pon Farr...

But I can overlook all that if a solid story driven series comes out of this at least paying some homage to the Star Trek we all know.

[EvilNed]

Regarding Vulcans and sex; Haha, I didn't even think about that. But that's a big mistake, yes.

[Neil]

Regarding Vulcans and sex; Haha, I didn't even think about that. But that's a big mistake, yes.

I'm no Trekkie, but even I did a Spock eyebrow raise at what they showed in the episode as regards Vulcan romance and sex etc.

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[Neil]

Second episode was OK, some reasonable character stuff, but the premise of music note communication and precognition? I'm afraid that's another...

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If they can teleport people with a shed loads of hardware and equipment, why couldn't they teleport the ion engines they wanted to put on the comet?

[Kaos]

Eh, Vulcans must have sex during Pon Farr. However, restriction from having sex outside of Pon Farr is not really canon. I remember an official Star Trek novel written by Dorothy Fontana (original writer on TOS) where Spock had a romantic relationship with a Vulcan during the Pike era (not his betrothed). Over time, Vulcan relationships have been shown to be a bit more complex than the simplistic idea of a 7 year wait for mating season. It is implied that much like the Victorian era, chaste was for show.

As far as the show is concerned:
Visual Design - I am in love with this Enterprise as well as the design of communicators, phasers, and tricorders.
Stories - I liked the 3 episodes I saw thus far. With regard to the January 6th footage, Pike refers that as the beginning of the 2nd Civil War. One doesn't have to either be pro or anti Trump to extrapolate how political polarization could lead to violence and a divided nation that eventually fails. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

[Neil]

Visual Design - I am in love with this Enterprise as well as the design of communicators, phasers, and tricorders.Yeh, they've done a good job so far.


Stories - I liked the 3 episodes I saw thus far.Not seen the third, but the 2nd was OK, if a tad too handwavium for me (singy communications ;)).


With regard to the January 6th footage, Pike refers that as the beginning of the 2nd Civil War. One doesn't have to either be pro or anti Trump to extrapolate how political polarization could lead to violence and a divided nation that eventually fails.Nah... The notion that showing some anti-biden placards is horrific/alarming enough to form part of a montage for an apocalypse? I'm calling lefty partisan studio TDS BS wokery on that! :)

Why have 2-3s of footage to basically express what is all too clearly just a political statement? Why make that effort? Why do it? Other than to make a partisan political statement. Heck, to even think to use that footage rather than just show 2-3s of a city on fire or something? Unnecessary entitled nonsense.



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OK - Episode 3 is heading in the right direction. If they can keep building on this we could be in for a really good series :)

[EvilNed]

Nah... The notion that showing some anti-biden placards is horrific/alarming enough to form part of a montage for an apocalypse? I'm calling lefty partisan studio TDS BS wokery on that! :)


Dude, I'm beginning to worry about you. You see some supposed "wokeness" everywhere. And in Star Trek? Have you even seen TOS? First interracial kiss? Commie-economics? Obvious marxist fables? Geez, man. This is getting out of hand.

[shootemindehead]

It's funny. If the original Star Trek appeared out of nowhere today, the "anti woke" crusaders would be melting down into the ground harder than Chernobyl. :lol:

[Neil]

Dude, I'm beginning to worry about you. You see some supposed "wokeness" everywhere. And in Star Trek? Have you even seen TOS? First interracial kiss? Commie-economics? Obvious marxist fables? Geez, man. This is getting out of hand.

Considerable thought and effort went into putting that footage into that episode... So again... (1) People actually decided anti-Biden protests is symbolic of an apocalypse, (2) People decided this was a good thing to put in the pilot episode of a new TV show, and decided that footage of atomic bombs or cities on fire wasn't more befitting for an apocalypse montage.

So, if you believe when showing a montage representing an apocalypse on earth, that choosing to use footage of people basically holding anti-biden flags is a sensible, fair and productive representation of that horror, fair enough. But for me it's just representative of some of the questionable agendas at play at the moment.

Yep, it's only 2-3 seconds of footage... But yet more needless frog boiling... :)

[EvilNed]

Considerable thought and effort went into putting that footage into that episode... So again... (1) People actually decided anti-Biden protests is symbolic of an apocalypse, (2) People decided this was a good thing to put in the pilot episode of a new TV show, and decided that footage of atomic bombs or cities on fire wasn't more befitting for an apocalypse montage.

So, if you believe when showing a montage representing an apocalypse on earth, that choosing to use footage of people basically holding anti-biden flags is a sensible, fair and productive representation of that horror, fair enough. But for me it's just representative of some of the questionable agendas at play at the moment.

Yep, it's only 2-3 seconds of footage... But yet more needless frog boiling... :)

Uhm, no. You're just reading way too much into this. In fact, the footage itself is completely in line with Star Trek, and specifically how modern Star Trek interprets modern events. But this Woke-boogie-man you keep seeing everywhere... If you think this feels "out of character" for Star Trek, then you must not have been very aware of what Star Trek was to begin with.

[Neil]

Uhm, no. You're just reading way too much into this. In fact, the footage itself is completely in line with Star Trek, and specifically how modern Star Trek interprets modern events. But this Woke-boogie-man you keep seeing everywhere... If you think this feels "out of character" for Star Trek, then you must not have been very aware of what Star Trek was to begin with.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. ie: You're suggesting people waving anti-Biden placards is a good choice to represent the horror/cause of an apocalypse. I'd suggest that's a very niche and specific choice (for ulterior motives) because there's obviously a plethora of more appropriate and clearly less partisan footage such as cities on fire or mass riots and looting that clearly would have been more befitting.

But... Horses... Courses... ;)

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[EvilNed]

We'll have to agree to disagree then. ie: You're suggesting people waving anti-Biden placards is a good choice to represent the horror/cause of an apocalypse. I'd suggest that's a very niche and specific choice (for ulterior motives) because there's obviously a plethora of more appropriate and clearly less partisan footage such as cities on fire or mass riots and looting that clearly would have been more befitting.


It did not represent horror or cause of an apocalypse to me. It was clearly trying to display a society torn in half by civil unrest... But whatever, I can tell somebody called Woke-busters.

[Neil]

OK... Ep4, easily the best so far for me.

Going to be interesting to see what the Gorn look like :) Hopefully just a smidge better than Kirk's version :)

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[JDP]

OK... Ep4, easily the best so far for me.

Going to be interesting to see what the Gorn look like :) Hopefully just a smidge better than Kirk's version :)

I hear that they are gay and black now.

[Neil]

Clearly one thing we can deduce is the Gorn have a far longer lifespan than humans...

I mean look at this. The Gorn hasn't aged a bit!!!

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[EvilNed]

I liked Episode 4.
However, I've started to get a bit annoyed by the continuous banter of Ortega, Uhura and Chapel. Ortega in particular is snappy, unprofessional and speaks out in snarky remarks in a way that no bridge officer should ever do... These are people who went to the most prestigious military academy on earth and qualified to serve of the Flagship of the federation. Act like it.

[Neil]

I liked Episode 4.
However, I've started to get a bit annoyed by the continuous banter of Ortega, Uhura and Chapel. Ortega in particular is snappy, unprofessional and speaks out in snarky remarks in a way that no bridge officer should ever do... These are people who went to the most prestigious military academy on earth and qualified to serve of the Flagship of the federation. Act like it.

True... But I guess if they all acted like cookie cutter robots, it could get a bit bland?

[EvilNed]

True... But I guess if they all acted like cookie cutter robots, it could get a bit bland?

A series set on a vulcan science vessel would probably not feature very interesting relationships, No.

[Neil]

A series set on a vulcan science vessel would probably not feature very interesting relationships, No.

The tension peak of that episode being four characters all eyebrow raising at the same moment? WOW! :)

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[JDP]

The tension peak of that episode being four characters all eyebrow raising at the same moment? WOW! :)

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[EvilNed]

Episode 5! Best one yet. Loved that it dared to focus on relationships and light hearted humor rather than the action adventure heavy episodes that preceded it