How can people be so disconnected?

[erisi236]

http://dailyuploads.com/americansgetquizzedonworldaffairs/

Now, I'm sure they edited out anyone that answered correctly to make a point/be funny, but still how can these people be so totally clueless about the World around them? None of those "questions" even gave me pause but these folks are like the living dead, very very sad. :dead:

[MikePizzoff]

"I call it a diaper head, really."

Ohhh man, I'd love to smack her.

[darth los]

Now we know how george bush got re-elected.:eek:

[erisi236]

I'm doubting that those innercity folks were Bush voters :D

[darth los]

i doubt that they were voters at all. The point that i was trying to make is that republican or democrat those people are indicative of 60% of our country. People need to put down their ipods, pick their heads up from the computer and get with the program. These are the same people who in the wake of a disaster will be crying for someone to help them. Americans have become way too fat and dumb. what's worse is that they think it's o.k. You ever ask someone who the speaker of the house is? They can't tell you, but what really inscenses:mad: me is that they don't even want to know, like it's not important. That's why the pols in this country do whatever they please. People are pacified by American idol and their my space page. Truly sad.

[Danny]

bloody hell, never did i think i would see the day americans are the but of more sterotype jokes than the germans.:rolleyes:

[HLS]

hmmmmm

[MikePizzoff]

bloody hell, never did i think i would see the day americans are the but of more sterotype jokes than the germans.:rolleyes:

Bloody hell! I never thought I'd see the day that American's would be the butt of more stereotypical jokes than the Germans. :rolleyes:

hehehe - just trying to prove a point (joke) I was making in the chat earlier.

[Neil]

OMFG!

Guess though if you interview enough people you'd find people like this!

ps: Reminds me I heard a story that Michael Caine removed his kids from US education when they were taught WWII started in 1941.

[p2501]

wow, editing + a large volume of interviews = instaganda.

this is like the "jay walking" crap leno does. they go out and interview as many people as they can in a 4 hour window. then edit the footage down to 2.5 minutes of the stupidest answers they recorded.

this is about as credible as Foxnews.

[DeadJonas190]

wow, editing + a large volume of interviews = instaganda.

this is like the "jay walking" crap leno does. they go out and interview as many people as they can in a 4 hour window. then edit the footage down to 2.5 minutes of the stupidest answers they recorded.

this is about as credible as Foxnews.


LOL thats pretty much what I was going to add, but you beat me too it... that Fox News part is hillarious!

[Eyebiter]

With all the BS going on since 9/11, many Americans are starting to wonder WHY we should bother to help out folks in foreign countries who hate our guts. Why send money to earthquake victims in Iran and Pakistan if they turn around and commit terrorist attacks against the United States? Why pay for vaccines for their children through the UN? If these people truely hate the US then let em rot.

Many ordinary Americans could care less about the rest of the world. Best part about Europe is imported beer, wine, cheese, and cars. Taiwan and Japan make great electronics and cars. China and the third world provide cheap stuff for Walmart and Pier One shoppers. Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Iran, Venezuela are all important only because they have significant oil reserves.

[Danny]

OMFG!

Guess though if you interview enough people you'd find people like this!

ps: Reminds me I heard a story that Michael Caine removed his kids from US education when they were taught WWII started in 1941.


oh man you think thats bad i was watching a documentary a while back about education and in a "recent poll" though this was like 2003 or something 60% of americans said there favourite patriot was jesus.

make of that waht you will, though i doubt any of that 60% posts on this forum.

[MinionZombie]

Perhaps it's things like this that make the world so mad at America, the utter retardation that seems to be sweeping the nation everytime an educational poll comes out ... and Neil, that 1941 thing ... words cannot describe my disgrace/shock/confusion/anger ... it's worse than when someone comes along and says "we saved your ass in dubya-dubya-tooh", such ignoramis' should be swept from our earth swiftly...:|

[AcesandEights]

Perhaps it's things like this that make the world so mad at America, the utter retardation that seems to be sweeping the nation everytime an educational poll comes out ...

Meh.

People find the things they want to look for when these polls are created and their results edited together. Numbers and polls are a great way to skew the hell out of the reality of a situation that has many shades of gray.

[Exatreides]

well thats nice

but i'm drunk off some skoal vodka, hows that for ya?

[MinionZombie]

Edited or not, somebody still said those retarded answers to easy questions ... that's why America can be damned scary, it's not the guns or the size ... it's some of the people living there. :eek:

[AcesandEights]

Riiiight, I'm sure we corner the market on stupidity. :confused:

[MinionZombie]

The answers of dimwits who live in the vote-swinging middle bit of America saying things like WW2 started in 1941 and Jesus is their favourite patriot is a lot scarier than, say, a Canadian, or a Frenchman, or a Spaniard saying the same things - because for the fact that America is the #1 world power (China doesn't really count, they're too secretive and un-involved to be included really).

That's what I meant, and the whole world is filled with friggin' idiots ... just look at the UK, we've got a whole gubment full of them! :D

[TheWalkingDude]

Its just sad how dumb people seem to be getting. But we can only blame ourselves for letting things like this happen. I mean really how many out there really care what the school systems are teaching kids these days. And even if there are caring people its one in Washington Both parties that just sit back and throw bandaids or do nothing at all to solve the problem. But they sure are quick to make sure they get as much money as they can get and say the hell with the rest of us. Sometimes i wonder if it isnt time for a second civil war to kick out all these dumba$$ politicians that only concern themselves with themselves and there friends. :(

[MinionZombie]

Perhaps "V For Vendetta" should be made required viewing/reading in schools, teach people that the gubment should be there to work for us and we're the boss in the end of the day, not them.

Education here in the UK is completely worthless now, the results mean absolutely nothing. Every year it's "record results, better than last year!" - so you've got this ridiculous situation where at my local comprehensive (which certainly isn't a haven) producing kids doing ... wait for it ... FIFTEEN GCSE's and getting all A* or A grades ... now I don't care what the gubment says, that is freakin' impossible.

It's the same as kids doing FIVE A-Levels ... three was tough enough in my day, now it's a goddamned joke. Ever since A/S Levels were introduced (I was the guinea pig year doing them first, once again the tested on year! :mad:) education has plummetted and the results have just gotten completely daft, they really have.

Papers marked by people who aren't even an expert in the subject (so your physics paper could be getting marked by say, a cleaner, or a PE teacher!), and the results just get fudged as the mark boundaries are magically shifted after the marks are in ... it's disgusting, it actually makes me feel sick, because my A-Level year (2002) everybody got f*cked over with dramatically and completely uncharacteristically low results - nation wide. I was one of the lucky ones who managed to get into their first place University, but I know several people in my year (there was about 50 of us in my Sixth Form year) who had to go to their second or even third choice or even try again next year, because their results were completely fiddled. Apparently the first ever round of A/S levels were too easy (pfft, we all found them hard enough, the teachers too had f*ck all idea what they were doing too!), so the following year, when we're aiming for our first choice universities (in 2002), the gubment goes a raises the bar so high everybody crashes and burns ... ever since that fiasco/scandal (like I call it, because it damn well IS) the results have only been going up by ridiculous degrees.

Quite frankly, the only education that actually MEANS anything anymore is university, because that system is still hanging in there, marking wise at the very least (despite lecturers threatening strike, which almost meant finals not getting marked this year, same happened last year, but both times they were made to mark the damn papers like they damn well should ... it's not even as if half the people whinging were doing any teaching anyway, they're all too busy researching for their next book - that's my personal experience of half of my lecturers anyway).

*sigh*

Rant over...the UK education system is officially retarded, hurry up Conservatives, win the election in 2009 and fix our children's futures! It's bad enough I went through education not being taught to retain knowledge for life, instead we were taught how to cram and swot for an exam in three months time and then forget all that knowledge to go and swot for the next round of exams...utterly disgraceful.

Kids today don't even get taught importantly general knowledge, or get broad overviews of subjects - heck, I didn't even get that.

For example - A-Level history, we did WW2 (for about the 6th time since starting high school), then did that same Henry VIII-ish period of history (The Tudors) yet again and then we did a whole module with exam on Calvinism - JUST Calvinism - in fact, we had a whole weekly class dedicated to that one, narrow subject. We could tell you his style of underpants, but could we tell you who Brunel was? Nope.

Could we tell you a broad overview of history? Nope.

It's shameful, it's unbelievable this gubment, the term "from their ivory tower" has never been more accurate. Politicians are usually completely disconnected from what is actually happening in the real world, but Labour take the freakin' biscuit, it's hideous, I'm actually ashamed for Britain! :eek:

[erisi236]

The answers of dimwits who live in the vote-swinging middle bit of America saying things like WW2 started in 1941

techincally speaking, for America WW2 did start in 1941 :D

[MinionZombie]

Well if we're getting technical, America joined WW2 at the ass-end of 1941, WW2 still started in 1939...

[Danny]

Perhaps "V For Vendetta" should be made required viewing/reading in schools, teach people that the gubment should be there to work for us and we're the boss in the end of the day, not them.

Education here in the UK is completely worthless now, the results mean absolutely nothing. Every year it's "record results, better than last year!" - so you've got this ridiculous situation where at my local comprehensive (which certainly isn't a haven) producing kids doing ... wait for it ... FIFTEEN GCSE's and getting all A* or A grades ... now I don't care what the gubment says, that is freakin' impossible.

gcse's dont mean **** anyway, school leavers can never find a full time job anyware other than maccy-d's anyway, i myself quit my paper route two years ago and with my gcse's havent got a job since, fortunatly ive got two a/s levels to put on my cv but unless you do work experience your screwed, and its not just that its the fear that gets to kids nowadays, cus believe me, all kids are scared of leaveing high school, i was you were we all were, i read my school report from my last year saying i wanted to stay on and go into the schools 6th form like my brothers made the mistake of doing, purely becuase the world outside was different and college was a new place away from the freinds in my classes there, but i made the choice to go to college and have never regretted it for a second, but now my brothers decided to stay in a subpar school with wooden blackboards and stools in rooms from the 40's to learn college level education, why?

"because all my mates are going there"

well all my freinds did ...they got **** marks/ dropped out and now work in shoe stores and ****....the education at high schools doesnt mean anything its a comfort blanket of the real world that turns kids into gobby big headed little ****s that use the phrase "BLING-BLING" to describe and expensive lifestyle....*sigh*......if i was an aussie id say 'struth' right about now but all ive got is ,"gordon bennet!":rolleyes:





Quite frankly, the only education that actually MEANS anything anymore is university, because that system is still hanging in there, marking wise at the very least (despite lecturers threatening strike, which almost meant finals not getting marked this year, same happened last year, but both times they were made to mark the damn papers like they damn well should ... it's not even as if half the people whinging were doing any teaching anyway, they're all too busy researching for their next book - that's my personal experience of half of my lecturers anyway).

...and that wouldnt have owt to do with film and tv studies beeing all coursework with no exams would it?:sneaky:




Kids today don't even get taught importantly general knowledge, or get broad overviews of subjects - heck, I didn't even get that.

For example - A-Level history, we did WW2 (for about the 6th time since starting high school), then did that same Henry VIII-ish period of history (The Tudors) yet again and then we did a whole module with exam on Calvinism - JUST Calvinism - in fact, we had a whole weekly class dedicated to that one, narrow subject. We could tell you his style of underpants, but could we tell you who Brunel was? Nope.

Could we tell you a broad overview of history? Nope.



i hear that, see when i was a little kid i wanted ,believe it or not, to be an archieologist so i loved historyic shows, and watched more history channel than a guy in his late 30's who owns a lounger:lol: ...or the discovery channel, anyhoo i couldnt wait til we got to doing it in primary school and we did the blitz and WWII ....for 10 years!?!?!?!!!!!

no.

really.

thats all us brits learn in history, nazis and the cold war.....thats.it.

no vikings, romans, greeks, normans, no saxons ....why? pray tell?, i actually asked my head teacher at high school and he said "oh because the times of henry the 8th is recognised by schools as PRE-HISTORY"........*everyone who reads this goes "wtf?"*:dead:

kids dont get educated properly all we learn about now is negative aspects and racial awareness.......you want equallity in schools then dont point out people saying "oh your race is different to ours isnt it?" becuase then your singling people out...just a tip for any techers there.


and being "politically correct", **** that if im pissed and i say "thats so ****ing gay, it is darogatory use of the word but im pissed off so i dont care im not thinking of offending gays nor do i care, if i did id point out the word gay is a type of feeling not minority anyway.
people are too scared to be different nowadays in schools so if you dont smoke (AND I NEVER ****ING SMOKE!:mad: ), call people "goffs, geggers," and "wear those frikkin studded belts thats scary cus your not fitting in....(which for the record i didnt *raises fist in the air fighting the man:lol: *) then you "one of them"...which im quite happy to have been, partially cus im a bit of a chunky little ****er so i naturally had comedy to fall back on, but if you dont fit in most kids get eaten alive nowadays...which is ironic considering im posting this in a dead forum :lol:



and of course its that dern rap music:elol:

hey george theres your diary of the dead social commentary right thar' :lol:

...damn turned into a foamy rant there didnt it?:p

[erisi236]

Well if we're getting technical, America joined WW2 at the ass-end of 1941, WW2 still started in 1939...

Russia also sat it out till '41 :D

You could also say WW2 started in '37 when Japan invaded China, or even '31 when Japan invaded Manchuria :)

[MinionZombie]

Nice rant there Hellsing ...


...and that wouldnt have owt to do with film and tv studies beeing all coursework with no exams would it?

Actually, no. My course (one of the very top film courses in the country, top three last time I checked, in fact it's considered the best film course in Britain by quite a few), but here was the layout of that course:

Autumn Semester - 3 courses, all coursework, usually spread over two essays (the second termed as a "project" usually, which means around 3500 words).

Summer Semester - 3 courses, 40% coursework and 60% exam (occasionally it was 50/50).

Of course, there were exceptions, like final year dissertation - three months writing a 6000 (up to 8000 maybe) paper with all the trimmings, and you're assigned to a tutor to bounce your ideas off. Mine was Mark Jancovich - well known in writing about horror film theory.

Also, practical units, each course would again be a semester's length (I'm just saying three months as that's roughly the timescale), resulting in the whole course being judged thusly (for me personally):

Television Studio Production - (if memory serves) 20% write up on the final project (a 15 minute "live" magazine style show in the 11th of 12 weeks) and 80% for the project itself.

Documentary Video Production - 50/50, two five minute documentaries.

And yep, you're damn right about kids being scared to leave education. I was terrified, but I'd always thought anyway that "after primary it's high school, after that it's sixth form and then after that it's university", that's what always appeared to be natural to me and what suited me, so I stuck with it. But yep, I was terrified about moving on up.

I remember I tried going to the nearest specialist Sixth Form college, but people from my school weren't made at all welcome (my school was considered by all Herefordians - kids from Hereford high schools, who all went to Hereford Sixth Form anyway - to be the sort of place you could only survive by carrying a knife...we thought the same of them! :D). Anyway, folk from my school weren't made welcome, being in the vast minority, and they said that usually around 60% of people from the Kyrle leave Hereford Sixth Form. No bloody wonder, it was freakin' horrible there. I did a U-turn, went back to my high school, back to my friends and had a great time and came out with an A/B/B - of course, I damn well worked for it.

Then the end of the sixth form meant something really new, leaving my friends behind and leaving home. Now, at my school everybody either went to Cardiff, Bath (Spa or Uni) or York - that's it. I went to East Anglia, the ONLY person to do so (perhaps up to that point, or at least first in a very long time, not sure if anyone followed in my trailblazing footsteps though). For me that was going five hours to the other side of the damn country, everybody else stuck around an hour from home, or those going to York all went together.

I went to UEA on my own, because it was all about the course and the university itself (which I loved and still love), not about which mate(s) from high school/sixth form I was going with...I guess I was one of the rare ones to do that. I didn't even get a visit from any of my high school mates during term time (like they all did with each other - I guess I was too far away for them!)

But yeah, going to uni was completely terrifying. I got moved in and was sat in my new room, hours and hours from home, surrounded by boxed up possessions and just didn't know what to do with myself. After the first week I was fine and after two weeks I was lovin' it and never looked back and had a complete and utter blast, best thing I've done with my life thus far. I loved uni and it went too damn quick...which brings me to the end of uni.

Now that is freakin' terrifying, because that's going out into the real world. It's probably best for folk who aren't going to do uni, and not going to benefit from A Levels, to just get the hell out into the world. Because being 16 and going out into the real world carries the ignorance or youth. Get to 21/22 and leave uni to enter the real world for the first time and you're got the awareness of young adulthood, which makes it even scarier, and you don't have the luxury of "ach, I'm 16, I can doss about doing crap for a while with no direction", with uni, you need to get out there and find that direction quick - which means wait for months and months before one of your worms bites, then wait for many more months before anything moves further. Especially in the media industry, after being graduated for over a year, I'm only just starting up my own videography business with a guy I met around 7 months after graduating (7 months of sitting doing literally nothing but blindly sending out begging letters and CVs, scattergun approach you know, which all came to nothing bar ONE, which has done me well thus far and has led to all the stuff I've been doing since the beginning of 2006).

*sigh*

Okay, I'm gonna end this rant now. :p

WW2 was officially announced in 1939 when the Allies got involved, up to that point it was just the Axis going around being assholes, doing stuff until the Allies had had enough and called them out for 6 years of fisticuffs ... ass end of 1941 and America is "fashionably late". :sneaky: