The Devils Rejects...

[Neil]

...not particularly impressed with it :(

Just seemed an excuse for cheep pointless graphic violence. Shame...

Couple of interesting ideas and scenes, but too much mindless unecessary stuff going on IMHO.

[jscott]

Really? That's how I felt about Zombie's first film, but I was captivated by Rejects from beginning to end.

[MinionZombie]

Hmmm ... strange. I thought it was an excellent piece of work. Now, I was really into House of 1000 Corpses, but it had many-a-flaw ... TDR came along and knocked it right out of the park, Zombie really reigned everything in and made a polished product of rather gritty proportions.

Zombie's take on violence was to make it grotesque, in the DVD making of "30 Days In Hell" he talks about his take on the violence in the film and his intentions with it. He wanted it to be tough to watch, because that's what violence is, he was sick of violence and killing being something to enjoy and entertain in other horror films. I have to say I think he did a good job with the violence, there's a time and a place for the style he used, and I think he employed it correctly...

Something else that really impressed me was Zombie's ability to make the audience sympathise and actually end up on the side of the bad guys every now and then, despite the fact they're evil, sadistic maniacs ... now to me, that's some badass writing.

Just my tuppence...

[axlish]

Neil, stick to the corny SciFi :) You should have been impressed with DR, at least from a technical standpoint. It was shot on super16 and it looks amazing. I love both films, but I always found it strange how DR gets a pass from critics and 1000 corpses was pretty much universally bashed. Part 1 I can understand, because it is a grindhouse homage that isn't for everyone. Part 2 though, if you read the reviews you'd think this flick is for everyone. I find it twice as disturbing as the original, but for some reason the reviews are twice as good.

[MinionZombie]

I think Neil's getting softer in his movie tastes these days? :p Maybe it's the family man in him that's coming out?

Anyway, TDR really amped everything up and was a great piece of filmmaking. Zombie clearly studied H1KC very closely (it was shot in 2000 after all) and sought to fix everything he wasn't liking. And who couldn't dig the "Free Bird" ending, it's pure genius. :cool:

[Debbieangel]

Sorry guys I am a horror movie lover from a way back and those movies of Rob Zombies in my opinion suck snot!! ewwwww
I almost went out and bout the movie House of a 1,000 Zombies purely becauese it was a zombie movie but thankfully it came on HBO and viewed it first..wowww saved some money there!!!
Hey that movie reminds me of another movie I saw years ago maybe you have seen it..its called "American Gothic" ya it sucked too! Just as out there but not a zombe movie!
BTW..I have posted many times a zombie move is a zombie movie and I will watch any and all but that House of a 1,000 Zombies is the exception! lol opps had to go back and edit left a word out lol

[Neil]

Zombie's take on violence was to make it grotesque, in the DVD making of "30 Days In Hell" he talks about his take on the violence in the film and his intentions with it. He wanted it to be tough to watch, because that's what violence is, he was sick of violence and killing being something to enjoy and entertain in other horror films. I have to say I think he did a good job with the violence, there's a time and a place for the style he used, and I think he employed it correctly...

Something else that really impressed me was Zombie's ability to make the audience sympathise and actually end up on the side of the bad guys every now and then, despite the fact they're evil, sadistic maniacs ... now to me, that's some badass writing.

Yes, the violence was hard to watch, but it was there just for the sake of it IMHO.

Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy some of it, but these tended to be the more character orientated parts. I would have enjoyed more of that!

As for sympathising with them? I was all up for the cop to torture them and possibly finished them off, and was disappointed with the uber predictable "tiny" moment.



It sort of reminded me of "Wolf Creek" which is very hard to watch at times, BUT, there was far more of a story and characterisation in that so the violence was carried better if you see what I mean.






Neil, stick to the corny SciFi :) You should have been impressed with DR, at least from a technical standpoint. It was shot on super16 and it looks amazing. I love both films, but I always found it strange how DR gets a pass from critics and 1000 corpses was pretty much universally bashed. Part 1 I can understand, because it is a grindhouse homage that isn't for everyone. Part 2 though, if you read the reviews you'd think this flick is for everyone. I find it twice as disturbing as the original, but for some reason the reviews are twice as good.


It did look very good... I found it very disturbing... But there was nothing else really for me...

[DjfunkmasterG]

House of a Thousand Corpses wasn't a Zombie film. unless you meant Rob Zombie?

it is more like a different take on the Texas Chainsaw series.

[axlish]

it is more like a different take on the Texas Chainsaw series.

It is like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Funhouse mixed with Natural Born Killers. Obviously, this isn't intelectually stimulating material, but I love the visuals and I am a fool for some ol' redneck horror.

[MinionZombie]

Axlish - aye, I too was very into the visual stylings of House of 1000 Corpses ;), all very stylish but not a lot of substance, TDR on the other hand had a lot more substance with a refined style.

Neil - I too dug Wolf Creek, quite a few here didn't, but I was into it. I see what you mean, I think the characterisation in the film though was more separated from the violence - like character story first, then pure violence/running around second ... whereas TDR mixed the characterisation throughout with the violence, similarly, throughout the flick. I preferred TDR though, there was some parts after the camp fire with the Aussie in Wolf Creek that just pissed me off to no end as they were incredibly cliched ... a little while later most of it was sorted out, but it was the fact the uber-cliched moments were in there in the first place that annoyed me...but that was the biggest annoyance. Otherwise I thought it was a good flick.

[Debbieangel]

House of a Thousand Corpses wasn't a Zombie film. unless you meant Rob Zombie?

it is more like a different take on the Texas Chainsaw series.

I agree with you 100% thats what sucked me into watching it in the first place! Then I thought Where are the zombies? But, did you like it?

[Exatreides]

I'm just glad they let the Doctor Satan thing die.

[dmbfanintn]

I personally didn't care for Corpse's, but TDR, oh boy!!!

That film knocked me socks off!!!

It threw me back to the Hills Have Eyes or Chainsaw massacre.

Very gritty and tough to watch, but that was what the sadistic twisted people the fireflys were!

[MinionZombie]

Have you checked out the deleted scenes? The one bit with Dr Satan is in there, features the rather tasty Rosario Dawson as a nurse who gets, to say the least, rather damn bloody. Zombie put it in for the fans initially, but took it out as it wasn't tying in with the original movie, there was no need to have even seen 1000 Corpses to see TDR ... good decision.

[Chakobsa]

Neil, if you found the film disturbing and hard to watch in places then didn't it do it's job, partly at least? After all, any piece of art, be it film, painting or whatever demands a response from it's audience.
I enjoyed the way the film got me to like the Firefly family despite them being a bunch of psychos capable of and actually inflicting all kinds of hideous atrocities on their hapless victims.
Wolf Creek rocked BTW, the bad guy was totally credible, remember Hannah Arendt's famous comment on the "Banality of evil"?

[Neil]

Neil, if you found the film disturbing and hard to watch in places then didn't it do it's job, partly at least? After all, any piece of art, be it film, painting or whatever demands a response from it's audience.
I enjoyed the way the film got me to like the Firefly family despite them being a bunch of psychos capable of and actually inflicting all kinds of hideous atrocities on their hapless victims.
Wolf Creek rocked BTW, the bad guy was totally credible, remember Hannah Arendt's famous comment on the "Banality of evil"?


As I said, I just found the majority of TDA, gore for the sake of gore... A couple of favourite bits was the rapor between Clowny and Ken Foree though, they really held their scenes well.

But again, the violence seems to be there just to shock, and as such sort of didn't really. I think this was because there was little reason for it, and the story didn't really carry any character building in it. At times the relentless swearing also got a little on my nerves.

I think the only "oh" I exclaimed during the film was when (not to dish out a spoiler) tiny met the sherif. I was annoyed it rampage of the familiy didn't continue as they soooo deserved it!

[Chakobsa]

As I said, I just found the majority of TDA, gore for the sake of gore... A couple of favourite bits was the rapor between Clowny and Ken Foree though, they really held their scenes well.

But again, the violence seems to be there just to shock, and as such sort of didn't really. I think this was because there was little reason for it, and the story didn't really carry any character building in it. At times the relentless swearing also got a little on my nerves.

I think the only "oh" I exclaimed during the film was when (not to dish out a spoiler) tiny met the sherif. I was annoyed it rampage of the familiy didn't continue as they soooo deserved it!
Neil, re your last paragraph, have you just got back from the pub?:D

[HLS]

Sorry guys I am a horror movie lover from a way back and those movies of Rob Zombies in my opinion suck snot!! ewwwww
I almost went out and bout the movie House of a 1,000 Zombies purely becauese it was a zombie movie but thankfully it came on HBO and viewed it first..wowww saved some money there!!!
Hey that movie reminds me of another movie I saw years ago maybe you have seen it..its called "American Gothic" ya it sucked too! Just as out there but not a zombe movie!
BTW..I have posted many times a zombie move is a zombie movie and I will watch any and all but that House of a 1,000 Zombies is the exception! lol opps had to go back and edit left a word out lol

house of 1000 corpses did not have zombies. but ya i did not like the devils rejects. it was not a bad movie but it did not do anything for me. but i am still a rob zombie fan:D

[Debbieangel]

ok I worded that wrong..when I heard about the movie it had the word zombies in it thats why I was going to buy it! So, that is why I was soooo very glad it came on HBO so I could not make the mistake of buying the DVD. LOL Finally got what ya all were saying....another blonde moment!

[DjfunkmasterG]

When LouCipherr get back from Ocean City he will fill this thread with how much he loves this flick. I think this is a well done film personally and proves RZ can handle Pyschological stuff along with a horror element.

Plus the whole scene with SID HAIG and the little kid was AWESOME.

[Fulcifan91]

When LouCipherr get back from Ocean City he will fill this thread with how much he loves this flick.

I was about to say the same thing... so i'll second that! :)

[dmbfanintn]

ok I worded that wrong..when I heard about the movie it had the word zombies in it thats why I was going to buy it! So, that is why I was soooo very glad it came on HBO so I could not make the mistake of buying the DVD. LOL Finally got what ya all were saying....another blonde moment!

Debbie,

First, I love ya!!!

It is call House of 1000 Corpses. Not 1000 Zombies. The movies title does not have "zombies" in it anywhere. The only reference to zombies with this movie is the fact that the director's last name is (Rob) Zombie. And it's a stage name at that!

Lucky you didn't drop your money on it thinking it was a zombie movie!

[LouCipherr]

When LouCipherr get back from Ocean City he will fill this thread with how much he loves this flick. I think this is a well done film personally and proves RZ can handle Pyschological stuff along with a horror element.

Plus the whole scene with SID HAIG and the little kid was AWESOME.

Ok, I may be in the minority, but I'd like to go on record and say that personally, for me, this was one of the best films I have seen in the past 5-8 years. Seriously.

Fantastic cinematography? check
Memorable characters? check
Lots o' violence? check
Lots o' psyological playing-with-your-mind elements? check
One of my favorite actors ever in the cast (Bill Moseley)? check
Directed by one of my favorite musicians? check
A sequel that is 100 times better than the first one? check
Scenes that will make you squirm (hotel scene)? check
A cast of known characters from other great horror films? check
Sherri Moon Zombie and her hot friggin' body? check
Sid Haig terrorizing children (Dontcha like clowns? Aren't we f*ckin' funny?!) check
A fantastic storyline about a sheriff trying to walk the line and becoming more evil than the people he's hunting? check

...and last but not least, one of the most psychologically sadistic characters ever put on film (one mean motherf*cker named Otis)? check!


Ok, there's so much more I can say about the film, but I think you can probably tell how much I enjoyed it. For me, it was one of the most entertaining films I've watched in years. Based on what i've seen by RZ so far, I don't think we have anything to worry about when it comes to the Halloween remake - if anyone has a grip on the "70's look" on film, it's RZ. One peek at TDR would show anyone that. ;)


"We came all the way out here so this prick could pull a gun on us? Nice f*ckin' plan, Daisy!" -Otis

[Khardis]

I am sorry, but Rob Zombie is a hack and his HTC and DR were dreadful awful pitiful excuses for films. I rate them up there in terms of suck with Ghoulies 4 and Troll 2.

[LouCipherr]

Really? Who do you consider to be non-hack filmmakers that are new to the scene in this day and age? Wow, how anyone can watch TDR and think it was made by a 'hack' is beyond me.

For his first 2 films, I think RZ did a damn good job. I didn't like HOTC (too campy for my taste, and too much of a TCM ripoff) but TDR was LIGHT YEARS from HOTC as far as acting, production, and story.

To each his own I guess.

[dmbfanintn]

I am sorry, but Rob Zombie is a hack and his HTC and DR were dreadful awful pitiful excuses for films. I rate them up there in terms of suck with Ghoulies 4 and Troll 2.

Now there's a constructive post, backed up with solid facts as to why your OPINION of Rob's films suck!

Thank you for that, I feel so enlightened!

[DjfunkmasterG]

I am sorry, but Rob Zombie is a hack and his HTC and DR were dreadful awful pitiful excuses for films. I rate them up there in terms of suck with Ghoulies 4 and Troll 2.

You want to talk Hack... Uwe Boll, John Russo, and the once great Tobe Hooper... all just plain hacks, with Uwe topping the list.


www.uweboll.com

[Khardis]

Really? Who do you consider to be non-hack filmmakers that are new to the scene in this day and age? Wow, how anyone can watch TDR and think it was made by a 'hack' is beyond me.

For his first 2 films, I think RZ did a damn good job. I didn't like HOTC (too campy for my taste, and too much of a TCM ripoff) but TDR was LIGHT YEARS from HOTC as far as acting, production, and story.

To each his own I guess.
Does someone have to be new to the scene for Zombie to suck? I personally think he does, I think he is a total hack and his films lack cohesion and plot to link the scattered scenes together. He is IMO the epitome of the rich bastard who lives like a sterotype and is trying to bring his MTV horror sillyness to the screen. I get mad when I see his films somewhere because in order for it to be made the producers would have passed up 100s if not 1000s of possible projects from young directors with real talent, to go with a named commodity for $$$ reasons.

Zombies films lack (again IMO) taste, style, intelligence, cohesion, acting, quality, proper air quality...just everything.

He rips off other horror icons and TRIES hard to incorporate them into his work, but it has the semblance of a 2 year old banging a round peg through a square hole with his toy hammer. Hack city.

[bassman]

You want to talk Hack... Uwe Boll, John Russo, and the once great Tobe Hooper... all just plain hacks, with Uwe topping the list.


www.uweboll.com


Agreed. when HOTC was released, I thought Zombie would be a hack. I immediately took that back after seeing TDR. Great film. Rob is definitely not a hack.

Speaking of Boll.....you heard about his boxing matches with critics that make fun of him and his films?:lol:

[Khardis]

You want to talk Hack... Uwe Boll, John Russo, and the once great Tobe Hooper... all just plain hacks, with Uwe topping the list.


www.uweboll.com

I will give you those, but my list would also include Zombie, M Night Shamalamadingdong and probably several others not coming to mind right this second too.


Now there's a constructive post, backed up with solid facts as to why your OPINION of Rob's films suck!

Thank you for that, I feel so enlightened!

Dude I am sorry if my opinion hurts you, I didnt realize that your self esteem was so low that it could be shattered by me not liking something you like.:rolleyes:

[dmbfanintn]

Dude I am sorry if my opinion hurts you, I didnt realize that your self esteem was so low that it could be shattered by me not liking something you like.:rolleyes:

Gimme a freakin break! It has nothing to do with wether you like what I like, I could give a sheet less what you like! Do you feel as though you have said something here?

READ THE DAMN POST!!!!

You didn't say ANYTHING! You just laid down a b1tch session, all I did was call you on it! Self esteem issue are non-existent on a message board.

How long have you been here??? You can expect plenty more responses like that from many more members than just me, if that is the way you choose to form your posts.

And BTW, You DON"T want to start a flame war around here! That is just a friendly piece of advise. I personally will not participate in a flame war, but if you want one, there are plenty of folks who will accomodate you!

[Khardis]

Gimme a freakin break! It has nothing to do with wether you like what I like, I could give a sheet less what you like! Do you feel as though you have said something here?

READ THE DAMN POST!!!!

You didn't say ANYTHING! You just laid down a b1tch session, all I did was call you on it! Self esteem issue are non-existent on a message board.

How long have you been here??? You can expect plenty more responses like that from many more members than just me, if that is the way you choose to form your posts.

And BTW, You DON"T want to start a flame war around here! That is just a friendly piece of advise. I personally will not participate in a flame war, but if you want one, there are plenty of folks who will accomodate you!

Hmm, so because I laid out an unfavorable opinion (to the hack rob zombie lovers) I am inciting a flame war? Maybe you should monitor yourself sweetheart, Noone was flaming until you showed up and had a little fit over as you capitalized my "OPINION" thanks by the way for capitalizing it, I might have forgotten otherwise that I was speaking about myself for a minute.

I am a seasoned veteran of forum going. Thanks for the advice, I think I will manage. Heres some advice for you:

The next time someone doesnt like something you like and they make a point of it, and you feel all your blood boiling at thier audacity, take a few deep breaths and try to relax. Then post to them that you disagree, you dont have to bludgeon them and insult them like you have done here. OK Tiger?

[Adrenochrome]

Hmm, so because I laid out an unfavorable opinion (to the hack rob zombie lovers) I am inciting a flame war? Maybe you should monitor yourself sweetheart, Noone was flaming until you showed up and had a little fit over as you capitalized my "OPINION" thanks by the way for capitalizing it, I might have forgotten otherwise that I was speaking about myself for a minute.

I am a seasoned veteran of forum going. Thanks for the advice, I think I will manage. Heres some advice for you:

The next time someone doesnt like something you like and they make a point of it, and you feel all your blood boiling at thier audacity, take a few deep breaths and try to relax. Then post to them that you disagree, you dont have to bludgeon them and insult them like you have done here. OK Tiger?

oh look! I see flowers and waterfalls of peace flowing from your post! Gosh, how grand!:D

[Khardis]

oh look! I see flowers and waterfalls of peace flowing from your post! Gosh, how grand!:D

Thanks, you just asploded my Sarcasm meter :(

[LouCipherr]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/LouCipherr/Forum%20Pics/doIgiveadamnanimation.gif

[Adrenochrome]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/LouCipherr/Forum%20Pics/doIgiveadamnanimation.gif

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DjfunkmasterG]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/LouCipherr/Forum%20Pics/doIgiveadamnanimation.gif



So, how about them REDSKINS? :lol: :moon:

[LouCipherr]

REDSKINS?! Don't make me break out my "Give-a-f*ck" meter! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dmbfanintn]

Hmm, so because I laid out an unfavorable opinion (to the hack rob zombie lovers) I am inciting a flame war? Maybe you should monitor yourself sweetheart, Noone was flaming until you showed up and had a little fit over as you capitalized my "OPINION" thanks by the way for capitalizing it, I might have forgotten otherwise that I was speaking about myself for a minute.

I am a seasoned veteran of forum going. Thanks for the advice, I think I will manage. Heres some advice for you:

The next time someone doesnt like something you like and they make a point of it, and you feel all your blood boiling at thier audacity, take a few deep breaths and try to relax. Then post to them that you disagree, you dont have to bludgeon them and insult them like you have done here. OK Tiger?

:eek: :eek: :eek: Sweetheart???:lol: :lol: :lol:

Once again, you are missing the point. All I was saying in my original post was that you offered NOTHING constructive. You popped into the discussion about TDR, made the following remark:

I am sorry, but Rob Zombie is a hack and his HTC and DR were dreadful awful pitiful excuses for films. I rate them up there in terms of suck with Ghoulies 4 and Troll 2.

A lot of folks here think Zombie is a good film maker. In that, we disagree. All I am trying to say is that posts like that generally garner a response similar to mine.

AND, if you'll go back and re-read the thread, you will see that it was you, not I, that got all up in arms about the whole situation.

But of course that is typical and we see it so often, where noobs will come up in here and make some 2 year old remark with nothing substantial to add to the arguement, then get all p1ssed off when someone call sthem on it, THEN try and turn it around when the person responds. Typical,

Now in the infamous words of our very own Adrenochrome:

Shoo little one, go play! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thanks, you just asploded my Sarcasm meter :(

Would someone please define "asploded" for me??? :D :D

I am so confused:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[LouCipherr]

I could post pictures of what 'asploded' means, but I have a feeling i'd end up hiking down the road with Svengoolie. :lol:

[dmbfanintn]

Khardis,

Just wanted to let you know that I responded to your giving me negative rep by adding you to my friends list. I hope you accept, that's just how I am.

Thanks buddy, I look forward to years of constructive discussion with you, if you hang around that long!

One thing I will humbly ask of you, please stop using your little pet names for me like "sweetheart" and "sunny", it's kinda creeping me out! :-)

[bassman]

I have a suggestion to solve this little problem....

THUNDERDOME!
http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/Thunderdome.jpg

"Two men enter.....one man leaves"



:p

And just to sling it back around into topic......after one leaves, you and I will go get some "tooty f*ckin fruity!". Sort of a bonus prize, if you will.

[LouCipherr]

Ok, now THAT just made my day, thanks bassman. :D


...and as Otis would say, "There is no f*ckin' ice cream in your f*ckin' future!"

[axlish]

http://www.jimbo.info/weblog/archives/auntieentity.jpg
"Welcome... to ANOTHER EDITION OF THUNDERDOME!"

[dmbfanintn]

Thanks bassman, I think I will pass on the Thunderdome offer, not really my thang!

I could certainly go for some tooty fvckin fruity though!

What's the matter, don't you like fvcking clowns? Aren't we fvcking funny?

[MinionZombie]

lol, Lou, you summed the film up perfectly ... and Otis is one hell of a "loveable", sadistic maniac ... some of the crap that comes out of his mouth is wickedly hilarious, for instance, the whole Willy Wonka bit. :D

Add another to the list:

Kick ass, incredibly suited soundtrack? check
End the movie with "Free Bird" and that sequence? check

[bassman]

lol, Lou, you summed the film up perfectly ... and Otis is one hell of a "loveable", sadistic maniac ... some of the crap that comes out of his mouth is wickedly hilarious, for instance, the whole Willy Wonka bit. :D

Add another to the list:

Kick ass, incredibly suited soundtrack? check
End the movie with "Free Bird" and that sequence? check

You forgot:
Open the movie with The Allman Bros' "Midnight Rider"? Check.

I loved that opening just as much as the end.....

[MinionZombie]

Oh snap, me too! Such a great choice of music, not that I'm saying I really heard of any of it before (bar Free Bird), but it suited the film so well. While I'm a fan of Rob Zombie's music, his stuff didn't suit the 70s setting of the first movie ... mind you, the visual style didn't really suit the 70s setting that much - but it did suit the music.

[LouCipherr]

"I'm gonna come back, and if you don't have a reason as to why you hate clowns, i'm going to kill you and your whole f*ckin' family"

:elol:


mind you, the visual style didn't really suit the 70s setting that much - but it did suit the music.


You don't think the film had that 70's look 'cause of the cinematography? I did, but maybe that's just me. :D


...and I agree 100% about the soundtrack - Dj and I always comment that it was one of the best sountracks every put to a film.

[dmbfanintn]

The end sequence in the car with freebird playing and the firefly's headed for thier ultimate doom. That was one of the best scenes in the film for me!

I actually felt a bit sorry for them, just for a moment!

[bassman]

uhhh....lou. Little bit of spoilerage there, ya think?:p

[Fulcifan91]

You want to talk Hack... Uwe Boll, John Russo



No, not John Russo! :confused:

I've loved everything i've seen by him. Again, "to each his own.." is the only saying to express this thread.

[LouCipherr]

uhhh....lou. Little bit of spoilerage there, ya think?:p


I didn't spoil anything, I was just talkin' 'bout the soundtrack - oh, wait, are you talking about dmbfanintn's post? :D

LC

[dmbfanintn]

I didn't spoil anything, I was just talkin' 'bout the soundtrack - oh, wait, are you talking about dmbfanintn's post? :D

LC

Sorry, I didn't think about it as a spoiler, but I guess it is!

[bassman]

I didn't spoil anything, I was just talkin' 'bout the soundtrack - oh, wait, are you talking about dmbfanintn's post? :D

LC

My bad.....used the wrong name...

[LouCipherr]

No prob, man - I started to panic after I read that 'cause I certaindly didn't wanna give away too many details. Sometimes I get a bit carried away.... :D


"I keep my standards low so I'm never disappointed" -Otis Driftwood


I still think Bill Moseley stole the spotlight in this movie. I mean, was there really any other character as engaging as Otis? I love Sid, and Sheri did a good job, but Moseley was the man in TDR.

...and the incredible amount of movie quotes he's supplied me is just pricess.



"We regret to inform you that the Banjo & Sullivan will not be performing tonight..." :elol:

[bassman]

I really like Ken Foree's character, as well. And his sidekick.

Heck.....I even liked the Sheriff for alittle while....

[DjfunkmasterG]

No, not John Russo! :confused:

I've loved everything i've seen by him. Again, "to each his own.." is the only saying to express this thread.


So you like the NOTLD 30th anniversary cut? Hmmm, I may have re-evaluate you. I thought you knew your horror. :p


Sorry Fulci, the guy is a hack. He completely destroyed George's NOTLD with his bastard version. The man shouldn't be allowed near anything with movie parts and film stock.

[bassman]

The man shouldn't be allowed near anything with movie parts and film stock.

He should hook up with James Gunn and Hack Snyder.:p :lol:

[DjfunkmasterG]

He should hook up with James Gunn and Hack Snyder.:p :lol:

Hey hey hey, Leave hack... err I mean Zack out of this. 300 looks totally BADASS! :D

[dmbfanintn]

No prob, man - I started to panic after I read that 'cause I certaindly didn't wanna give away too many details. Sometimes I get a bit carried away.... :D


"I keep my standards low so I'm never disappointed" -Otis Driftwood


I still think Bill Moseley stole the spotlight in this movie. I mean, was there really any other character as engaging as Otis? I love Sid, and Sheri did a good job, but Moseley was the man in TDR.

...and the incredible amount of movie quotes he's supplied me is just pricess.



"We regret to inform you that the Banjo & Sullivan will not be performing tonight..." :elol:

I totally agree Lou!

He is the man! I am amazed erverytime I watch TDR that Otis is the our very own Johnny from night 90.

"They're horny Barbara, they've been dead a long time!"

[Dommm]

I liked both movies, HOTC and Devils rejects. I found the first more of a squirm in your seat kind of movie, especially the barn and the father (trying to NOT throw in any spoilers). But have to say there are much better movies out there, Wolf creek is a prime example, I think this built up tension more and I felt more connected to the victims. With HOTC I almost saw the victims as fodder for the psychos, I almost think that these were made purley to shock rather then having anything deeper to say. But hey thats just my own opinion, I think that Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Wolf Creek are better examples of this kind of Genra and more beleivable.

[GoreGirl]

...not particularly impressed with it :(

Just seemed an excuse for cheep pointless graphic violence. Shame...

Couple of interesting ideas and scenes, but too much mindless unecessary stuff going on IMHO.

I'm new to the board and really should have read the rest of this thread but I just had to reply with that I can see where you're coming from but I disagree completely. To me one of the real draws to horror movies is the fact that a lot of them have 'cheap pointless graphic violence'...it's what sells. Wasn't that what Zombie was going for anyway? Sort of a Texas Chainsaw masacre of sorts? I definately preferred Rejects to House of 1000. Just my two cents!:)

[Adrenochrome]

I'm new to the board and really should have read the rest of this thread but I just had to reply with that I can see where you're coming from but I disagree completely. To me one of the real draws to horror movies is the fact that a lot of them have 'cheap pointless graphic violence'...it's what sells. Wasn't that what Zombie was going for anyway? Sort of a Texas Chainsaw masacre of sorts? I definately preferred Rejects to House of 1000. Just my two cents!:)

I'll see your 2 cents and raise you 5!
I agree, Rejects was MUCH better than THOTC! Mr. Zombie did what every other horror director did: He started off with a "practice movie" and moved on..(gosh, like all directors)...TDR is a perfect example of an artist giving the "thumbs up" to the guys that inspired him,....instead of raping the name of his predecessors (you know the type, the re-makers that insist on ripping off the artists that gave them their spunk!) [*cough cough* name a remake...*cough cough* as one of my own...Zack "Hack" Snyder or any of the others that steal].....makes me think.....I can't rip something from the net; music, movies apps....etc....BUT...these "artists" can rip an idea and make money from it? Not an idea of their own????????
bitches!

[LouCipherr]

I think what is really impressive about RZ is that HOaTC was decent, if you consider that it was his first movie, but... the growth between HOaTC and TDR was just leaps and bounds. Not just in cinematography, not just story line, but also the shift in characters (look at the shift of Otis from 'nutty albino' to 'sadistic killing-machine-prick'). If I saw both movies back to back without knowing a thing about them, I would think TDR was directed by someone else. Even his shooting style changed from one to the other.

Of course, I always have to give my man Moseley props for the wicked-ass Otis character. He really took it and ran with it in TDR. The sadistic sh*t that comes out of his mouth during the movie is sometimes worse than anything he would do physically to someone in a movie. I like that. The psychological mindf*ck that Otis would unleash on people was unparalleled.

Sure, there was some violence for the sake of violence, but isn't that with any horror movie on the market? They just do it because... well... because they 'can'. :D

I also have to admit that TDR is one of the few movies that made me squirm in my seat. Not because of gore, but the hotel scene.... I can't think of any other movie that made me as uncomfortable as TDR - that scene especially.

Is it me, or does Otis look like Zakk Wylde? :lol:

LC

"You brought us all the way out here so this prick could pull a gun on us? Nice f*ckin' plan, daisy!" -Otis

:D

[triste realtà]

I side with Neil and Khardis. Also, I had an unintentional Ken Foree back to back as I am in the middle of TCMIII, which also has Tom from Night90 and Nicotero effects. I saw it in the theater when it came out but I don't think I knew about Ken in Dawn then. That was the last time I watched it, till now.

Actually, I saw Inconvenient Truth in between. The CO2 graph is still freaking me out, along with the 6 feet jellyfish.

[Cody]

I love the Devils Rejects great movie.

[Tricky]

I wasnt a fan of devils rejects,it was just sick for the sake of it,i was glad when they all met their end as they were all a bunch of complete arses!

[capncnut]

I love the Devils Rejects great movie.
You knows it Codester. TDR kicked ass, best horror movie of that year without a shadow of a doubt. Halloween will be even better. :cool:

[LouCipherr]

You knows it Codester. TDR kicked ass, best horror movie of that year without a shadow of a doubt. Halloween will be even better. :cool:

*nods in agreement*

:D

[capncnut]

Yeah f**k the haters, I'm hearing all sorts of things. Like a real fairytale childhood gone wrong <music box playing out of tune> and a real reason for the hatred inside Myers. It's hard what to believe but I bet your bottom dollar that Zombie has got all the bases covered. Allegedly the first half of the movie is about Myers childhood alone. That excites me. And the supporting cast looks meaty, bring it on.

Oh and I bet Zombie sneaks in, "And his eyes... the blackest eyes... the Devil's eyes." :lol:

[MinionZombie]

I'll certainly be looking forward to seeing Zombie's vision of Halloween, like I've said before, if anyone was cut out for it, it's that dude...and TDR rocked my cock three ways from Sunday, the DVD was awesome too.

[capncnut]

Here's the new trailer if you haven't seen it.

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[MinionZombie]

Looking cock-flickingly-good there Capn.

I'll be honest, I like the original's idea where it's a seemingly normal kid who just suddenly breaks and turns into a never-talking lunatic ... so I guess it makes sense to have this one as a kid who's a bit of a weirdo having the evil overtake him, whereas normal folk can deal with any violent urges and suppress them...

Interesting trailer ... Malcolm McDowell as Loomis...he'll always be Alex DeLarge to me ... but hmmm ... I still trust RZ implicitly with this. TDR was just epicly finessed.

[capncnut]

Yeah, I though McDowell looked nicely in place as Loomis there. And some of that incest-play with Myers (when he was touching his sister's/aunt's thigh) looked well disturbing. Maybe this time, well get to know why he's such a psychotic bastard, why he doesn't say anything, and hopefully why he doesn't run after his victims.

I bet the other classmates never picked him on Sports Day. :D