Ahhh...Battlefield Vietnam...

[MinionZombie]

Decided to go somewhat "old school" (yes, 2004 :rolleyes:) and re-installed an old favourite - BFV. Played the sh*t outta this game back at uni - although never online, I keep my gaming rig (which is also where I do my editing and important stuff) strictly offline - any stuff that's downloaded has already been filtered through my laptop you see.

Anyway, it's a damn fun game, and to be honest I was let down with BF2. The selection of maps in BF2 was definately not as good as BFV (and seemingly less of them?), but one of the main things was the aiming and damage of weapons in BF2 - BFV weapons were much more damaging and accurate - plus you could have the LAW and the M60 together. Tried updating BF2, but the game wouldn't work after attempting the patch install :dead:.

Music wise too - BFV has that classic Vietnam era selection, so you can re-live your favourite 'Nam movies. You've got the M16, oh yes...and I don't know, but the enemies seem a little larger - or maybe just easier to hit (due to better accuracy and damage) in BFV than they do in BF2.

I'll check out BF2142, but I ain't buyin' that sh*t after the letdown that was BF2 (it was still damn good when it was good, but it just wasn't up to BFV-level snuff)...I think I might install BF1942 again, it's been years since I played that, but I remember the weapons being a bit crap - especially the Thompson machine gun (which had the accuracy of throwing air at a needle's eye, and a hideously bad sound effect) - but just for an old school fix.

Okay, bit of a Battlefield in general rant, but *meh*, big whoop, wanna fight about it? :D

[LouCipherr]

Yes! :lol:


Actually, I loooove BF:V almost as much as the original, but the original BF1942 was my favorite - that is until they patched it 100 times and made the planes indestructable (which, of course, was stupid considering the planes were the most devistating piece of armor in the game).

BF:V kicks ass - I still play it on occassion, and love the hell out of it. The simple fact that I can hop in a vehicle and listen to CCR's "Fortunate Son" while running over the enemy makes it all worthwhile. I feel like I'm really in the 'era'

MZ - did you ever check out the BF1942 mod for BF:V? Where they took a few of the BF1942 maps and put them on the BF:V engine? Pretty wicked. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

Nah I never did get around to checking that out, I was rather lazy getting BF mods ... were there any new BFV maps put out? The 'urban' ones (like Quang Tri) are my favourites, shame they are NVA rather than American soldiers, you can only put up with "moochi loochi" and "bay-dhow-cham" or whatever else for so long. :D

Gotta be a Yank jeep though, the "gook" jeeps (jooks? :lol:) are sluggish lil buggers aren't they? Also - helicopters/planes - MUCH easier to control in BFV than in BF2, where it's just impossible for some bizarre reason...

Get into many close spots where you find yourself switching to the pistol when in the midst of reloading your M60 and a clutch of guys come over the hill? Damn I've been in some tight spots on that game. :D Pinned down by stolen tanks, running dry on ammo and no way out, all I was missing was "Adagio For Strings".

Likewise had many close calls in BF2, perhaps moreso as you don't have ammo/health boxes but medics and ammo guys instead, screaming "running dry, NEED ammo" over and over, but never being backed up is quite cool - as are the airstrikes when you're pickin' off enemies from a rooftop.

[LouCipherr]

yeah, BFV can get pretty hairy, but y'know, one good thing about BF2 is that it forces people to 'team play' - not like BFV online, which is filled with spawnkillers and people who will kill their own just to get a chance to fly a helicopter 20 feet then wreck it.

The BFV mod for BF1942 is right on BFV's official website - worth the d/l 'cause it adds some BF1942 maps, but with the BFV engine (which = more lush environment). Pretty nifty.

Oh yeah, i've been caught with my pants down so-to-speak on many a BFV map - never seemed to happen that much in the original BF1942, but in this one, yes.

The gook booby-traps are pretty neat though - punji sticks? OUCH! :lol:

[MinionZombie]

I like shooting out the stick holding up the spiked logs, using them against the enemy who put them there :lol:, I've never really come across the pungi sticks before, but I never venture into ground that might carry them. A couple of times I have ... and I've grazed myself on razorwire sometimes, took me a while to figure that one out. :lol:

Yeah, that's one reason I don't play online (aside from keeping my gaming machine strictly offline like I said), the n00bs and the nob-ends who act like dicks...might go and check out that 1942 mod when I get my laptop down to do some surfing/downloading tomorrow.

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, it's pretty fun that BF1942 mod, and it's an "official" mod done by Dice for BFV. ;)

Did you ever play the original BF1942? I have that and the expansion pack, "The Road to Rome" which is pretty cool, but I never dove in and bought that "Secret Weapons of WWII" expansion pack though. Dunno why, BF is one of my favorite games to this day.

What I dislike the most about Battlefield 2 is that there is no single-player co-op game. I wanna play the game with a friend and the rest of the players are computer players ('cause I get sick of the idiot spawnkillers and schmucks online) but nooooooooooo, BF is stricly Multiplayer (MP) online, or not at all. Kinda irritating. In BF1942, dj and I would hop in a map on the same team with 28 computer players on our team and 30 on the opposing team so it was split evenly, 30/30.. We'd rush Omaha beach probably 3 times a night and just stomp ass.. :elol:

[MinionZombie]

Sounds like you guys were having a blast.

Aye, I've got BF1942 and played it a shedload back in early 2004. BFV refined a lot of issues like weapon strength, accuracy and feel, which I really liked. Like I said, BF2 reversed some of that, which was a shame.

I just play the maps with the computer AI "bots", which can be FRIGGIN' moronic sometimes it drives me to distraction, the number of times I'm half way to an enemy base when the one I JUST liberated is under threat, *argh*!

Will get around to that '42 mod for 'Nam sometime soon...it was weird playing the Desert maps on that game for some reason, even though the likes of COD2 have them, but it was kinda weird cos that's where my Grandad fought in WW2, one of these days I must go through the pics with my Mum (but finding an appropriate time is tricky, and to be honest since my Gran died last year - Grandad died in 1993 - we're not quite "ready" to do so, but I look forward to seeing the photos). I never got a chance to really know my Grandad (the Grandad on the other side died long before I was born), so - although he probably would have been like a lot of veterans with not wanting to relive it all, and with me being young and unaware of WW2 basically - I never got to hear any war stories or see the pics he took out in places like Africa and the Middle East...

Anyway, back to BF games, yeah, it was kinda strange playing the desert levels in #42, cos I suddenly realised - wait a minute - I'm playing a videogame version of the sort of stuff my Grandad was fighting in...hmmm...

[LouCipherr]

Anyway, back to BF games, yeah, it was kinda strange playing the desert levels in #42, cos I suddenly realised - wait a minute - I'm playing a videogame version of the sort of stuff my Grandad was fighting in...hmmm...

Yeah, that is kinda strange, isn't it? We're playing a "war" in video game format. Kinda creepy when you put it in that context. :D

The "AI" bots are fun to play against, but how many times in BF1942 did you run up to an enemy, get right in their face and they just stare off into the distance? :lol: I walk right up to 'em, put a pitsol to their head and >POW< :elol:

MZ, you and Dj and I are due for a BF1942 game dontcha think? :D

[MinionZombie]

Wish I could, but with the geography of the house I can't get the internet in my room (where my gaming computer is), as well as the fact I keep that machine strictly offline.

I'd load '42 onto my laptop, but it can't run it...:(, maybe when my family get a new family desktop (the current one is on it's way out slowly methinks) - then I could go nuts with the online gaming, it sure would be fun to all team up against the baddy AI and whoop arse. :D Same for BFV.

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, that's one I have to get Dj into is BFV. He has 1942, but not Vietnam.

Are you actually able to control the helicopters in BFV? Man, I've never had a good time with those things - I can usually get 'em off the ground and in the general area I want it, but landing... :lol: that's a whole diffetent story. :D I'll usually just bail and parachute to my destination. :D

Well, when you get hooked up, us three have to get jacked up on some HPotD and play an all-nighter. :lol:


:shifty: y'know MZ, I'm starting to think you and I are the only FPS game players on here. :shifty: Damn console addicts! :lol:

LC

[MinionZombie]

Tell me about it, the purity that is WSAD + Mouse is being killed off by all these consolers and their damn young-kid analogue sticks (ever try sniping with those? Forget about it...).

Now, back at Uni we played a shedload of Halo 2 multiplayer (I was awesome at it and was the top player in our house, muahahahaaaaa! I've got m4d 5ki11z boyeeeee).

Yeh the choppers in BFV aren't too bad to control, far far faaaaarrrr better than in BF2, where it's nigh-on-impossible (same for all other aerial craft in BF2). Planes are tricky in BFV, but I find them pointless beyond a means of quick transportation. Choppers I hop in to get somewhere quick (and pretend I'm in Apocalypse Now :D), when I started playing BFV again recently I was piss poor at flying them, but after a couple of accidental crashes I got the hang of it again - and aye, I just bail out near my destination and grin when the chopper plummets to the ground (with or without an AI bot inside who didn't pay attention to my "bail out!" order and decided to try and rescue the chopper from the dive I put it in).

Actually, I was playing the La Drang Valley map the other day and hopped aboard the Chinook, piloted by a bot, and damn ... his skills were terrible. He ended up rocking the chopper back and forth at extreme angles until he damn near flipped it over backwards ... then he crashed into a hill after I'd bailed out. :elol:

Yeah blates, when my folks finally spring for a new pootah I'm gettin' my ass online to play some games. :cool:

[LouCipherr]

Planes I don't find difficult to fly 'cause I have a Logitech Winman 3D flight stick (which stomps ass I might add, esp. because of the 'twist' rudder control) but when it comes to helis, i'm a friggin' horrible pilot! :lol: I kinda do the Apocalypse Now thing too (screaming "IF I SAY IT'S SAFE TO SURF THIS BEACH, IT'S SAFE TO SURF THIS BEACH!" :D) and just fly to where I need to and bail.

Oh, and the AI is HORRIBLE at flyinging in BFV - I've watched the bots fly helis in circles until they crash, fly straight into things, etc. Comical to watch when it's the other team crashing, but heartbreaking and frustrating when it's your teams AI doing the horrible flying. :lol:

...and ditto about playing a FPS on a console. I can't understand why they would even bother with designing a FPS on a console. I watched a friend of mine playing "Hitman: Contracts" the other day trying to snipe people using analog sticks - it was comical to watch!! He couldn't get a bead on anyone to save his life! If I had my mouse and keyboard, he would've been dead inside of 2 seconds.. :D

[MinionZombie]

Ah Hitman: Contracts - LOVE that game, Blood Money was also friggin' awesome - and yep, the perils of analogue stick sniping :lol:, piss poor showing is standard.

Playing Halo 2 on Xbox back at uni I'd stick to rocket launchers and the machine gun - and the sword (mainly) - while the second best player in the house (who is the major Delta Force 2 nut) insisted on sniping as much as possible - handy when he was on your double-team, but annoying when he was on a roll with it. I tried sniping and it was hideously bad, if I'd been on a mouse for that I'd have slain big style, my mouse operated sniping is killer...

3rd person shooters/actioners - another style of game that requires a mouse and keyboard, the prospect of doing Splinter Cell on a console is beyond me, and you get better resolutions on PC ... or at least did, but still can if you've got the muscle to back up 1280x1024 (and beyond) resolutions.

[LouCipherr]

My son plays Splinter Cell on his Xbox, although I have no friggin' idea how it does it. :lol:


Were you ever into any other FPS games like Quake, Doom, Unreal Tournament, etc? Y'know I used to hate FPS games until a friend of mine got me to play BF1942 and from there it was all over. I picked up Quake 4, DOom 3, Unreal Tournament 2k4, and it's been no looking back ever since. :D

[MinionZombie]

Are you kidding me ... I'm an epic fan of FPS gaming. :cool:

Ones that spring to mind that I've played and/or own:

Doom series (have Doom 3 and the Resurrection of Evil add-on)
Painkiller
Half Life 1 and 2 (and Episode One so far)
FarCry (if you ain't played it, get it, soooo pretty)
SWAT 4 (EXCELLENT game, you'll forever want to open your front door with C4 only after this great game)
Quake 1 and 4 (played some of 2, have 3 but never really played it)
Outlaws (old school Lucas Arts western game)
Redneck Rampage and Redneck Rampage: Rides Again
Battlefield: 1942 ... Battlefield: Vietnam ... Battlefield 2

I've got STALKER on pre-order (and have had since late 2004!) and there's a few more that I forget...

OOH!

Medal of Honor: Allied Assault ... and ... Pacific Assault
Call of Duty, Call of Duty: United Offensive, Call of Duty 2
Brothers In Arms: Road To Hill 30
Unreal Tournament 2003
Halo

Yeah, I'm very much into FPS gaming. I play the odd driving game (like Carmageddon or Colin McRae Rally - Project Gotham Racing, when I get the chance - as well as the likes of Need For Speed Underground 1 & 2), also have been known to play Tony Hawk's Underground 2, also "do" 3rd peson action games - Splinter Cell series (sadly I cancelled the pre-order for Double Agent when I saw the requirements :(), Max Payne 1 & 2, the GTA games as well of course.

And a puzzle/adventure game also - Grim Fandango (excellent old school Lucas Arts game).

Yeah FPS shooters are my favourite, then 3rd person actioners.

I re-installed BF1942 last night too, was playing it till past 1am. Trouble with going backwards in a franchise is missing the improvements that have been made, but it's fun to go back and re-live my end of 2003/early 2004 gaming vibe ... I held that damned Windmill as long as I could with litte-to-no backup from anyone, but sadly I was forced to retreat...

[LouCipherr]

Holy sh*t! The memories you're bringing back! :lol:

FarCry, I have that and played it quite a bit - that game looks awesome, very very good graphics. :D

Grim Fandango - dude, I played this when it first came out and haven't even thought about it since then! Now I gotta go find it, dammit... :p


In BF1942, my favorite maps were the close-combat maps like Berlin and Stalingrad, but there was nothing quite like storming Omaha Beach! :D That damn "Battle of the Bulge" is a bitch of a map too, but I like to get at the top of the one hill where that windmill is (I think it was a windmill), grab the tank right behind it, and fire it on the other side of the windmill and keep smashing the AI's advancements. That is, 'till the shell me with one of their tanks. :lol:

One of the best mods for BF1942 was the Desert Combat mod (www.desertcombat.com) - if you install any mods whatsoever, this should be the one. ;)

Ahh, the memories. That's it, I'm gettin' out my BF1942 disc. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

Something you should check out - it's a "machinema" movie (films made using computer games) for Battlefield Vietnam. It's called "The Fallen One" and it's 15 minutes long, and it's really friggin' good, watched it last night. Just Google it up and download it (it is a hefty 330mb-ish, but well worth it).

Indeed, the close range maps are much better, case-in-point that El Alamein map, each position is really far away from the other so you're forever trapesing back and forth capturing the same damn post you just liberated. Although it is fun to go charging around in a jeep though, I was doing that yesterday and no-joke-of-a-lie I was actually thinking of Dj's driving as I was yomping through the dunes. :lol:

Will see about some of these mods, I'll have to get an account with FileShack or whatever it/they are as I keep coming across it...

*Dad comes in with the Total Film magazine he took to read days ago and I forgot about - still only a third into it myself, damn!*

...all these great mods but I keep forgetting my account details for these free download sites, *sigh*, such a nuisance to keep setting up new accounts. :D

[LouCipherr]

That was one of the things that drove me nuts about BF1942. You capture a point, move to the next, then the point you just captured originally gets taken. You go back, capture the point, then the new point you captured is now gone.. back and forth and back and forth - it's enough to drive a shell-shocked vet into hysteria! :D

Y'know, speaking of videos, there were some HILARIOUS videos made by a guy named KoiN that were "stunt" videos of BF1942. Basically, they messed with the gravity settings, and they would lay down some TNT on a hill over water.. then, grab a jeep and get it going full speed and just as it gets to the top of the hill where the tnt is, they would blast the stuff and the jeep would go flying for MILES over the water.. AWESOME stuff to watch! If you google "BATTLEFIELD STUNT VIDEOS KOIN" you'll find 'em - there were two he did. One was the stunt video, the other was one called "Hero" that was a mini-movie (much like you described) of a guy in BF1942 fighting his way through the mass of enemies.. awesome stuff.

[MinionZombie]

I also recently watched a "machinema" video called "Top Gear: The BF2 Parody" - basically, it takes the audio from a feature on Top Gear (where Jeremy Clarkson road tested the new Range Rover on a mock battlefield, by racing it against a Challenger 2 tank, which had to try and lock on to "kill" him) ... but replaces the video with BF2 footage. It's a great little machinema video, check it out if you can...I'm gonna go google the one you said.

[LouCipherr]

you might have to sign up for Fileshack again (free) but here's the Koin video called "Owned" (it's the BF1942 stunts video, with some kickass music to boot)

Koin - BF1942 Stund Video - OWNED! (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/1497/KOiN+BF1942+Stunts+Movie+-+Owned)

I believe it's on YouTube too if you search for "Koin battlefield"

Here's a link to Koin's FAQ, explaining how exactly they do their stunts:

How to do 'stunts' in BF1942 by: Koin (http://www.northernbrigade.com/page.php?id=10&PHPSESSID=1830ad581a9f224dff9a4355a89f77b7)

Good stuff! :)

The "Hero" movie Koin did is also on fileshack:

The Hero - BF1942 video by Koin (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/1586/KOiN+BF1942+Movie+-+TheHero)

:D

I'll check out these machinema videos when I get home - can't view 'em here at work, dammit. :(

[MinionZombie]

Aye, pretty cool vids, the stunt one was pretty darn cool. I love things like that, games such as the GTA games are great for pulling off stunts, so it's impressive to see stunts in games such as BF2...

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, they modify the game a bit to actually create the stunts, but that one called "owned" that Koin did was so kick-ass. I mean, they got what, 30 people on top of a B2 plane and took off and created their own paratrooper unit! :D

The best was the damn jeep jumps though - some of the jeeps go flying for MILES over the water.. awesome stuff! I think they also mod the damage done to your player so you can drop TNT, stand on top, blow it up, fly up 100 ft. in the air (without dying) and parachute to your destination - helpful if you wanna get on top of an unaccessable building rooftop. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

I've now uninstalled BF'42 having been through it again and have re-installed BF2, and it's better than I remember it from my first outing ... mainly helped to the fact I went to FileFront and downloaded a shedload of modder maps, which are really good, there's a lot of city maps, which are great for close quarters infantry fighting...some crashed the game (3 of them from my first sesh of downloads), but there's also remakes of BF'42 maps - like Bocage, pretty cool stuff.

I'm starting to have withdrawal ... I think I'd better go shoot some more goddamned MEC or whatever the other baddies are called in it ... "ali-a-mus-teff!" :lol:

[Tricky]

Maaaaan,ive not played BFV,but i love BF2,its just the perfect war game!at times its frustrating because of certain idiots on the game,such as those who just lurk around the hangers ALL the time,teamkilling anyone who goes near the jets/choppers,and the lag on some servers has me bashing my keyboard,but when its good its good,really good!i love the wake island map when your trying to defend the airfield,ive had so many good moments on that!well placed claymores & AT mines do the job,as well as the mounted machine guns,but watch for snipers ;) ive recently got good at flying on it as well,barrel rolling away from missiles & dive bombing tanks while raking foot soldiers with the cannon :elol: getting on a server with people who are prepared to work as a team is the best way to enjoy it

[LouCipherr]

w00t! Another BF player! I'm glad ya walked in, Tricky, I was beginning to think MZ and myself were the only FPS game players on this forum. :shifty:

The one thing I am decent at in all the games is sniping. I like hanging way back, picking off people one by one with headshots. Nothing better than lining those crosshairs up on someones head, clicking the mouse button and watching them drop to the floor. :elol:

The one thing I don't care for in BF2 is it's really setup for multiplayer action, and not really for someone who just wants to play by themselves with computer players. I love me some online play, but sometimes I don't wanna deal with the idiots online and want to play a game all by myself.

Once I got my flight stick, I became pretty good at flying - but still no good at hitting the targets I need to with bombs & MG fire! :lol: I suck at that, but it's fun to jump in a plane, fly to where you need to then bail and parachute to your destination. I've stolen many an enemies flag by doing that. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

Was on BF2 again last night, this time till 2am, was playing some more new maps I'd downloaded (they're ten times better, heck, even twenty times better than the ones Dice/EA included with the actual game!).

One I was playing last night was called El Alamein: Day 1 - desert map based on the one from BF'42 - quite a big expanse (fudge loads of "tickets" for each side too, geez), but hop in one of those really fast jeeps (either the go-kart-ish American one, or the skittish - but ever so fun - MEC jeep) and just jet around the free flags and it's actually quite easy to get all the available flags, your men position themselves nicely at each point so you're defended and just need to survive.

The MEC stuck to mainly tanks, but then switched to air combat - jets and choppers - and were pummelling the flag I was defending every now and then, I tried taking them out with the AA, but it was a hit & miss affair and I died several times, tilting up just in time to see those bombs falling towards me with that slo-mo "oh sheeeeeiiit" moment, trying to jump out of the way to "ride the blast wave" ... but that never worked. :lol:

The sandbag-covered watch tower was a great place to hang out though, protected me from all bombs whilst some other men (who FINALLY turned up after I was calling them for bloody ages as I Rambo'd it) stayed in the tanks etc. When a chopper pased nearby I'd use my anti-take rocket launcher and chaff a cheeky kill. :elol:

Gonna have to go and play some more after I'm done checking the forum for today, oh wicked fun. :cool:

[LouCipherr]

It's almost as addicting as HPotD, ain't it MZ? :lol:

I'm gonna have to whip out my BF2 disc tonight and get crackin'. I've been stuck on playing this Company of Heroes game (it's a real-time-strategy game) that I seriously need to get back into some FPS action.

I'm tellin' ya, between you, dj, myself and maybe Tricky if he's up for it, we should start a HPotD clan in BF or BF2 and SMASH SOME SKULLS! :lol:

Oh, and while you're on the subject of being bombed by aircraft, ain't it a bitch when you're standing near a flag, you hear the plane coming - then that 'whistle' of the bomb heading your way? That gets my adrenaline up so high 'cause I'm trying to run like hell for cover, but it usually ends up the same way as always: a dead soilder on the field, and me waiting to spawn again. :lol:

[MinionZombie]

lol, oh indeedily-do, that moment of "hey ... what's that noise?" and then "oh sheeeeeiiit" and then "ACH! ... damn..." *respawn*. At least respawning is faster in BF2, playing '42 again, bloody hell, AGES and AGES you have to wait...so many flags were lost because of that clock, damn you old man time!

And yes, addictive is indeed the word to use. Was playing the remake map for Battleaxe, and bloody hell it's difficult, the enemy bombardment from tanks and APCs is constant, that was a tough-ass map. Once you get BF2 installed, go here:

http://browse.files.filefront.com/Battlefield+2+Maps+Levels+Missions+Single+Player/;1503606;/browsefiles.html

I downloaded a bunch of these and they're excellent. A couple don't work, and some I had to move into the correct folder/rename the file to look like the other files in the folder where they're supposed to be (to make them show up on the map select menu), but aye, they're damn fun. I was having such a ruck on a level called "Last Stand" and managed to push the Chinese right back to their hilltop flag, having pwned the whole town, I tell you...there was much panicked side-arm gunning going on after that deadly, empty *click* of the magazine sounds...daaaayyymn.

Man, I've gotta get back on BF2, there's still maps I've haven't played to check out!

One I had a go at (but got my ass handed to me) was on "Dehli River", I tried to do the old scoot to their furthest outpost to take them from behind (ooh err missus) but bailed out and the parachute didn't open in time, so there was a dead marine on some shack's roof...any subsequent attempt to fly over in a chopper (managed to get my skills back :lol:) were scuppered by AA, those damn bastards.

............*jonesing for BF2*.............

[LouCipherr]

lol, oh indeedily-do, that moment of "hey ... what's that noise?" and then "oh sheeeeeiiit" and then "ACH! ... damn..." *respawn*.

Amen, brother. That scenario has played out so many times on my battlefield it's not even funny. :lol: That 'screeeeeeeeeeeeech' of the incoming bombardment just makes me flip the hell out. I usually start gettin' really nervous and try to run like hell, but it's usually for nothing as I end up dead anyway.. :D

I'll check out those add'l maps and all when I get home. Work is stingy about their bandwidth usage, and, well.. I need my job. :lol:

Y'know, there was a setting in BF1942 where you could change the length of the spawn time. I think it defaulted to around 20 seconds, which is WAY too long. I used to play with another friend and we would set the re-spawn timer to like 4 seconds. It was nice, until there was ONE flag left and the enemy keeps spawning right there every 4 seconds while you're trying to capture a point/flag! :D

[MinionZombie]

The additional maps are highly recommended, especially the city maps as they make for some great infantry fighting with the odd bit of transport madness chucked in for good measure.

Oh man it's such a fun game, I'm getting used to the aiming on the game again ... although sometimes it's just retarded - for instance, using the support M60 type gun, firing DIRECTLY at a target and not hitting them at all - and they're pretty close. Ridiculous! :eek:

I usually stick to being the special weapons geezer with the remote control bombs - excellent for the bridge on Last Stand.

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, that's what I didn't like about some of the "desert" maps in BF1942 - sometimes you'd spawn and run around for 20 minutes before even running into anyone to fight! Then if you got picked off quickly, it'd be another 20 minutes 'till you found someone else!

That's why I like those close right-in-your-face maps that force everyone to go one on one with their sidearms or a machine gun - hell, sometimes I even get into a knife fight!

Stalingrad is still one of my favorite maps in the original BF1942. There's one box of ammo right in front of the train tracks that I like to sit next to and spam grenades across the tracks at the flag right across the way. :lol: It also helps when tanks start coming your way and you're not anti-tank.. :D

Speaking of killing people with knives, y'know what's funny? I used to have a friend of mine that was INCREDIBLE at FPS games - I mean, this dude used to play in Quake 3 & 4 national ladder tournaments for money and has actually won a few of 'em! Anyway, he used to be so good at quake that he would sometimes enter a room with the name "flashlightkilla" and would not use a single weapon, only his flashlight to beat the sh*t outta people - and get this, 99% of the time he'd win the matches!! :lol: :lol:

[MinionZombie]

Bloody hell, a beatin' from a flashlight ... now that is the definition of "pwnage".

You'll be pleased to see there is an updated version of the Stalingrad map, I played it last night, a bit different obviously, but 60 years will do that to a region I guess. :D

BF2 city maps get reet chaotic sometimes, I've switched to the knife a few times in close battles after exhausting all other clips. It's rather satisfying to stab an MEC soldier in the head. :elol: Notice how when you stay still your guy will play with the knife and balance the blade by it's tip on his finger? I'd never seen that before, damn cool - also, if sprinting somewhere and you don't need a gun to hand, switch to the knife and you'll run faster for a little bit longer, just a tip if you hadn't already tried it.

There's also an updated version of Hastings, I owned on that one last night, everyone else was flying around each other and I took all the flags single handed and finally reached the last one and managed to capture it (but it too AGES), had to keep crawling behind the flag base to help avoid the gunfire of circling jets and helicopters, all the while looking out for the bad guys spawning...

[LouCipherr]

yup, I noticed that 'run faster with different weapons' stuff in FarCry at first. With the pistol you ran pretty quick, but pick up a heavy machine gun or rocket launcher and you slowed down to a crawl. :D

I've seen the dude in BF fiddle with his knife and weapons if you just sit there. I love that kinda stuff they throw in games - adds to the realism. Ya get bored, and just start messin' with your weapon. It'd be neat if like once out of every 10 times you did that he'd drop the knife and it would stick in his foot! :lol:

Are you playing BF2 online with other live players or with all computer players, MZ?

LC

[MinionZombie]

Ah sadly I just play with myself on BF2 :p, my gaming machine is strictly for "offline use", I never connect it to the internet and anything that has been downloaded goes through the protection fortress that is my laptop.

Also, the internet connection is downstairs at the front of the house, my gaming machine is upstairs at the back of the house, so it's a no-go. When (or if) my folks finally get a new family desktop then I'll be able to play games online again, but until then (at their rate, it could be a while) I'll be stuck fiddling with myself against an onslaught of AI...:(

[LouCipherr]

Well, in that case, you need to explain to me how in BF2 to play a game with just yourself and the rest of the players on your team and the computers team all being AI. For some reason, if I start a BF2 game offline, it's always JUST me on the map. I know BF1942 had a single-player co-op (which filled out all the players on both teams that weren't "real people" with AI players) but I could never figure that out in BF2. I always just played it online - not that I care too much for BF2 online. Too many spawnkillers and too many base campers willing to kill you for that helicopter you were runnin' for. :lol:

LC

[MinionZombie]

What on earth are you doing to it to make it just you in the map?! :lol:

I just click on the single player button at the top of the screen and then it comes up with the list of levels, I then load one up and bosh - me and a bunch of AI chaps.

Man I was kicking ass earlier today, taking names and handing out toe tags. :cool::D Starting to master the Assault man's grenade launcher too...

[LouCipherr]

That's a good question, I have no friggin' idea what I did.. I only tried it once or twice, then got in on the MP thing with a friend and never went back to single player.. but I distinctly remember it being just me on a map with no one else, and I could not for the life of me figure out how to fill up the rest with AI.. :lol:

The assult's grenade launcher is sweet as all hell, but I have a hard time landing them exactly where I want to. I guess I just haven't used it enough. That's it, I need some practice. I'm outta here..

Oh, and the sniper is still my favorite. :elol:

[MinionZombie]

Must be an option you've not got set right, a number at 0 instead of 16 or 32 or something like that, it seems very strange that you don't have any AI when playing single player, maybe Google holds the answer?

Was rocking the house last night again, I'm gonna have a full afternoon though - I've got South Park, Lost and three Two & A Half Men's to watch, so it's gonna be crowded, but I simply must have a razzle dazzle on the streets of Torkre (a mod map I downloaded), gotta love that city combat.

Was on Last Stand after dinner yesterday and man alive, it was a toughy this time around, I never quite managed to get all flags to myself, there was always one. I almost managed it, but a flag down a backstreet proved a step too far and I was killed by a baddy and they damn well got their asses back in the game - SOOOOOO close.

Another map I got called The River was great, you cross a river and there's basically a hill you have to take. A winding road leads you past all the flags and you take one at a time, an infantry based map, the last flag was a toughy and I died a few times trying to get there but I damn well got there when we all made a last push to take them out - glory to the victors, my arms were in the air like Rocky Balboa, haha!

As for the map where I was killed just as I tried to keep that last flag to us before the enemy got back in the game ... I screamed out "ach! you f*cking bastard!!!" a bit too loudly. :lol: Other strings of obscenities were littered throughout, often circling around the likes of "you f*cking wanker, f*ck off ya bastard!" and so on...when I had a one-on-one knife battle earlier in the game (at the same flag) and I finally stabbed the git in the head I jumped in my chair for joy and stabbed the corpse a few times to show him who was boss ... needless to say "wrapped up" is a mild description.

[LouCipherr]

Turns out, I must've been doing something wrong, 'cause last night I fired up the single player and was immersed into combat not seen by these eyes in a few months... :elol:

I hadn't loaded up any of the newly downloaded maps, but I played a few of the BF2 staples, and OMG was it fun.

I started off as assult and played the first map BF2 defaulted to (can't remember the name) and decided to have some fun.

There's one thing I miss about BF1942 that BF2 doesn't do. Do you remember in BF1942 where you could jump into a tank, and if the AI was already driving you would hop up on top to the machine gun position? Then you could repeatedly press '1' and eventually the AI would jump out of the tank and you'd gain control as the driver? Well, in BF2 it wouldn't let me do that (damn them for fixing that bug - out of all the bugs in BF!) so I said "screw this" and decided to venture out on my own.

Four flags total on the map, and I managed to capture 3 (with no help from my bozo AI bretheren in the game!!) before they started a hard push back. We ended up back down to 1 flag, then I managed to make it 2 and 2. Then it became a battle of wits, and I'll be golly damned if I didn't have more wits than the computer players! :lol:

It's been a while, and man it took some getting used to. I have been so immersed in this Company of Heroes game (Real time strategy, not a FPS game) that jumping back into BF was a bit of an adjustment, but nothing I couldn't handle. :D

Did ya never noticed there's never a medic around when you need one in BF2? :lol:

One of the nice things about playing with a friend is something we used to do when I played with my friend Steve. One of us would be an assult or sniper, the other would be a medic and we'd stick close together. Worked pretty well most of the time, but it would be even better if you could get 3-4 people on one team. A medic, sniper, assult, and engineer - that would be the ultimate 4-player team. :)

There's one thing I looooooove in BF2 that isn't an option in BF1942 - when you're part of a squad and have a commander, if you die, you can spawn near your commander instead of picking a flag/spawn point to spawn at. Now THAT was a nice feature.

LC

[MinionZombie]

Add a heavy weapons guy to that "support" I believe it's called - cos he has the bag of ammo for refills, which is rather necessary these days as they don't do health or ammo boxes, not even at a base...hmmm.

As for changing positions in vehicles, you can still do that, you just use the F keys (F1, F2 etc) to change position. More often that not you'll hop in and take over as pilot/driver, but sometimes not, kinda 50/50 I guess, depends where you are around the vehicle.

Those fast jeeps (both sides) are awesome, I love them, put some good old MZ style driving into effect, skidding around corners and going all Carmageddon on the MEC.

Tried being a commander once, but didn't really "get" it, my men just stuck to their spawn points - ordering in ammo drops and airstrikes were good though. Also, the way you do commands is better in BF2, occasionally fiddly, but easier than before with more options.

Maybe you were click "multiplayer" instead of "singleplayer" or something? Hmmm...I was looking at the options today and couldn't find anything that said about how many bots to set your configuration to...so I'm baffled...hmmm...anyway, good game good game ... to quote a gameshow host from the UK, that you won't understand...:lol::D

[LouCipherr]

Meh, it was probably the HPotD i've been on.. no wonder my mind was cloudy and i couldn't select the right options. :lol:

ok, so that heavy assult dude is the one with the extra ammo? that would be perfect. That just means it's up to 5 players now. Does that mean you're gonna volunteer soldier?! :lol:

Hmm I'll have to see if I can get to switch positions in the tanks again. For some reason (and probably the same reason I couldn't get a singleplayer game goin') I couldn't force the computer AI dude out of the drivers seat of the tank and put me in there.. in BF1942 it was simple.. apparently they switched that in BF2.

And speaking of there being no ammo & health boxes, I think that is the single biggest drawback to BF2 for me. I cannot stand having to rely on AI to drop ammo for me when I'm out. I'd almost rather commit suicide and respawn fully loaded with ammo & health. :D

[Tricky]

Im up for some games yeah!i tend to try playing it as a military tactical game when online,playing the soldier,rather than running around trying to knife everyone for points.Its suprising how employing tactics works,even when playing against cheating "l337" geeks who have racked up like 1000 hours on the game :lol:
They are the ones who complain the most if you take them out with tactics,always setting off kick votes cos they cant take been fragged by a well placed claymore or grenade :lol:

[MinionZombie]

Once my folks finally get a new damn family desktop then hells yeah I'd be up for joining a HPOTD L337 army :D ... for now I'll just have to imagine the awesomeness alone though...:(

Yeah, relying on AI ammo drops is a pain in the ass, especially when not one single person has chosen to be the support guy ... as for medics, they're always never in the right place at the right time. Sometimes they get there and you're under a pile of bodies and they're trying to revive dead ones instead of you...other times when you're dying, and are out of ammo, they decide to come and help you! Ack!

One of these days though ... I'll be up for BF2 HPOTD :D

[LouCipherr]

Tricky - yeah, your'e right. A well placed claymore can REALLY piss off some people, can't it? :lol: I usually don't mess with them, but when I do there have been times i've really ticked people off because I'll put them where they least expect it.. :elol:

Oh, and that friend I was talking about that played the Quake4 ladder tournaments? Well, when him and I used to play Quake or BF online, it NEVER failed at around 1/2 way through the 2nd or so map, someone would want to vote him off the map 'cause they thought he was "cheating" - he wasn't, he just stomped ass and took names. :D

MZ - yeah man, you better push the parental units to get a new PC. We can't do this alone y'know.. :lol:

...and I think this is a good idea - we could create the "HPotD 'leet Squad" then REALLY show these people how to play these FPS games. I only see one problem: You two and myself are the only ones on here that play FPS games! There's 3 pages of replies in this thread, and they're all MZ, Tricky or myself! :lol: :lol: Damn console kiddies - get a real machine to play on!! (just kiddin' ;))

I know once the Deadlands media push is over, Dj would probably be game to play BF too. I know he has BF1942 and I believe he has a BF2 also in his posession.. if we could just get him to stop playing the press whore and get him in some fatigues, we'd be good to go.

Two more players to round out the sqaud and we could break some skulls! :elol:

[MinionZombie]

Just thought of something, my copy of BF2 is "off the back of a digital lorry" so-to-speak, so I duno how that would work out with online capabilities ... although by the time the 'rents eventually get around to getting a new PC BF2 should be at a decent price (although it was sat at £30 for freakin' ages ... £15 now, not too bad)...

lol, yeah, it's always the way, as soon as you stomp ass and lend out some pwnage (:lol:) then people think you're cheating. One of my housemates from uni spent an extraordinary amount of time playing Delta Force 2 online (he never played the single played game for some reason) and he was just absolutely nuts at it, he was so good, and he'd often come on MSN complaining about being voted out for being too good! ha!

I remember playing DF2 online with him and when we were on the same team it was great, but when he was against me it sucked cos I just kept dying...but then again, I wasn't the greatest ... the sh*t graphics didn't help much, ha!

[LouCipherr]

That's why when I played with my friend Steve (The Quake4 guy) I would NEVER EVER under ANY circumstances be on the opposite team as him, 'cause I knew the first thing he would do would be to hunt down my ass and plant a bullet in my head, then stalk me for the rest of the game.. it would get frustrating as hell!!!


MZ - y'know, if you have BF1942 we could always play that too when your units get a new computer. Even with a non-legit copy of BF1942, you can still do a direct-connect to an IP addy (like mine for example) and play single-player co-op, which is nothing more than multiplayer, but the rest of the players on each team are filled up with AI players. I don't think that's possible with BF2, although I'm not 100% sure about that. Then again, even if you could, i'm the jackass that couldn't figure out how to play a SP game in BF with computer players!! :lol: What can I say.. :o

[MinionZombie]

Ah now there's an idea, that co-op hosty thingymajig ... I'll keep that in mind once the "units" (:lol:) get a new rig...

[LouCipherr]

heh-heh-heh... he said "unit" :p :D

[Tricky]

When playing as a sniper,climb one of the cranes you find on certain maps,& plant a couple of claymores on the ladders as you climb,you can snipe away more or less unhindered til another sniper spots you (then just lay flat & hide) & you'll let out a sneaky laugh when you hear a bang & the message "you have killed (insert name)" comes up,you just know he tripped one of your 'mores while coming after you :lol:

[MinionZombie]

Lou - you said it first. :D

Tricky - that's absolute genius, duno why I didn't think of claymoring the ladders (never really bothered claymoring anything actually). I did do the old climb a crane 'n' snipe trick though, good stuff. It was hilarious when the baddies kept trying to airstrike me on the crane, but everything just got bombed out around me, they ended up killing anyone/anything that wasn't me and was unlucky enough to be hanging out below me. :lol:

[LouCipherr]

That is an AWESOME idea Tricky!

That's it, when it happens, he's on our team MZ.. :elol:

[MinionZombie]

I might start trying out these claymore things ... they sound like fun...

Was trying out some of the alternate weapons today, some cool ones in there, but also some sh*t ones. :D

[LouCipherr]

unfortunately, I think there's more sh*t ones than useful ones.. :lol: but the useful ones really make up for it, 'specially when someone like Tricky comes along with a tip like that!


**edited to say: yeah, I did say "units" first didn't I? What's funnier is, I meant to say "parental units" but I goofed.. oops. :lol:

[Tricky]

Another trick i use quite often,go to one of your flags as special forces & plant loads of C4 around it,then leg it to a good hiding place & wait,usually someone will come along & try taking the flag,thats when you hit the switch....:lol:
Sneaking into their airbase & planting C4 on the best vehicles is good as well,especially the attack chopper & jets which everyone wants.Hide somewhere & wait til they get airborne,then boom! :lol: guaranteed to wind someone up big time!:sneaky:

[MinionZombie]

It's a shame you can't control your old C4 when you die and come back as another Special Forces guy...

[LouCipherr]

oooooh man, I was playing as a sniper last night and did exactly as Tricky said - climb up a crane (which takes FOREVER! If someone spots you like they did me the first time, you're toast! :lol:) plant the claymores, and hide up top with the sniper rifle. :D Worked like a charm.. 'till I ran out of ammo.. :lol:

I'm not sure what the name of the map was, but I played the first map in BF2.. wow, that was fantastic! I ended up with around 35 kills when it was all said and done! :elol:

I noticed you need quite a bit of lead-time with those sniper shots though to land them right in their head. You're REALLY high up on those cranes!

[MinionZombie]

I believe the first map is called "Dalian Plant" - I've got it loaded up and ready to go upstairs, gonna try the old sniperoo from the crane on there and try being a commander too, then I'll order in some ammo for myself. :D ... and airstrike the crap out of everybody. Of course, no doubt, we'll lose because my awesomeness isn't down on the ground in the mud with the other troops. :p

[LouCipherr]

MZ - do what I did when you run out of ammo atop one of the cranes: just leap off the end, parachute down, and run like a motherf*cker.. :lol:

Remember to give some decent lead time to those sniper shots - it's a long distance down from those cranes. ;)

[MinionZombie]

Well I went off and commanded my troops from atop said crane and parachuted an ammo crate on the top where I was snipesing from ... of course, airstrikes have a 50/50 chance of killing you on there, so it's probably best to get the ammo dropped on top, go one level down and command from there.

I was doing quite well, and did win the battle ... got the hang of that commanding thing, but it's something you can really only do from such a position, you can't effectively command on the streets with bullets whizzing over your head ... so from that crane, ho-yeah baby. I love calling in an airstrike and watching the chaos ensue from my crane-top hideaway...kinda weird how AI soldiers NEVER climb ladders though...:eek:

[Tricky]

When im commander i usually find a nice building you can go inside,preferably in your uncappable base if the map has one,plant the old faithful claymores at any entrances & command from in there :D
Rather than just randomly dropping supplies & arty i try to support groups of soldiers who are advancing,dropping supplies & vehicles for them & dropping arty on the flag they are heading towards,you can quite quickly sweep a map doing that!

[MinionZombie]

That's a good plan there actually, with the uncappable base thingymajig ... didn't know you could drop vehicles, hmmm. Might give that a go today...

[LouCipherr]

*pokes MZ and whispers 'hey, this tricky guy is gooood'* :D

Yeah, I wonder if you could drop a jeep on top of a crane while you're up there? Might give that a go today.. :lol:

[MinionZombie]

Now, prepare to sit down in shock, but not once today have I had time to play BF2! :eek: Been too busy today! :eek:

[LouCipherr]

Ok, that's just not right. :lol:


I played the 'oil fields' maps last night and HOLY bajeezus was it insane! There's only 3 flags (each base and a 'center' flag in the middle of the map) - well, I managed to get the center flag and pushed the troops 'twards the enemies last flag.. that's when it got interesting.. I got blown out of my tank twice, and the third time I came back it was on foot and with a really pissed off attitude (:lol:) I managed to get to the flag, and I was so bombarded by enemies that I emptied my MG, then my pistol, and then I had t whip out the knife 'cause I had NO time to reload - enemies kept coming and coming! Eventually, I got wasted and had to come back and do it again, but man talk about intense! When you have 5 guys running at you and you only have one clip left in your pistol, you really start getting tense as they close in.. :elol:

I still haven't had a chance to fire up the BF2142 demo, but I will soon.. I can't wait to see what kind of futuristic weapons there are in that bad boy.. :D

[MinionZombie]

Played Dalian Plant again today, started out as commander, but my men were completely ignoring all my orders and were doing whatever they wanted despite my constant calls :mad:, so I went back to being one of the guys and stomped some ass.

[Tricky]

Played Dalian Plant again today, started out as commander, but my men were completely ignoring all my orders and were doing whatever they wanted despite my constant calls :mad:, so I went back to being one of the guys and stomped some ass.

That maps class online,the chinese have that airfield right at the top & you can sneak round as sniper & pick off all the wannabe pilots from the far end of the runway :evil: some servers dont like it & accuse you of "baserape" but i think its a good way of keeping the enemy from having air superiority :p

[MinionZombie]

Hmmm ... I think one of us has the wrong map name as I certainly don't recall an airbase on Dalian Plant (or what I at least believe to be Dalian Plant - the first of the official BF2 maps). The one I'm on about has a big crane in the middle as well as one (or two?) cooling towers nearby. Four bases in all, all are cappable.

[Tricky]

Hmmm ... I think one of us has the wrong map name as I certainly don't recall an airbase on Dalian Plant (or what I at least believe to be Dalian Plant - the first of the official BF2 maps). The one I'm on about has a big crane in the middle as well as one (or two?) cooling towers nearby. Four bases in all, all are cappable.

Aah yes your right there,my mistake!the one i was thinking about is the qatar oilfields one!although when playing dalian plant on a 32 or 64 player online map,it has an uncappable airfield for the chinese at the top,behind the mountains,& an uncappable aircraft carrier for the USMC out at sea :)

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, the more players, the more the map is opened up. He's right there, MZ. ;)

Y'know what's funny? After I capped that last flag (oil fields map), I had to hunt down the remaining enemies and kill 'em off before they capped another flag and allowed more to spawn. Well, there was only ONE person left on the enemies team - and I spent what felt like 5 or so minutes scouring the map to find him....

...only to find out the bastard was flying a helicopter! :lol:

So I blew him outta the sky with a tank's machine gun. :elol:

[MinionZombie]

Ah yes, I'd forgotten you can extend the size ... not sure how to do it with the official maps, but a lot of the ones I downloaded are bigger ones or you can choose the size (16, 32, 64).

Will have to try some of these maps out on the bigger version, give another new layer to sniff around on BF2.

Lou - indeed, tracking down those odd pesky bastards after you've got the final flag can be a tricky thing, as well as tense, it's like an episode of 24 - you've simply GOT to get the job done NOW! So it's best to get one of those fast jeeps and tear-arse around.

Actually, I did that once on that oil field level (official level #2), finally managed to chip away at the bad guy's base and had to hunt down the last couple of gits ... but running them over at speed - oh the fun. :cool:

[LouCipherr]

Yeah, running over your opponent at full speed in a jeep (or hell, even in a tank) is good fun! Sometimes they jump out of the way those buggers... :elol:

Oh, and MZ, you'll be happy to know now that i have the controls down right now - forcing the driver of a tank out so I can take over works good now. w00t! :D

I dunno, I must've been trying to use the keys for BF1942 or Q4 or one of the other 100 games I play. :lol:

Off to the battlefield!

[MinionZombie]

Here's a question - how do you change the size (16, 32, 64) of the maps in the game? I was trying to play either 32 or 64 on Dalian Plant - or heck, ANY of the official levels - but I couldn't figure out how to change the number...any help? Tricky? Lou? :eek:

[LouCipherr]

Sheeit, i'm the dumbass who couldn't figure out how to push the AI outta the drivers position in tanks and couldn't figure out the single player game for a while, and you're asking ME?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

tricky may know the answer to this one, but I don't. I usually just stick to the defaults and pray I don't get my ass handed to me in the game. :D

There's not an option in the setup for # of players? There was in BF1942, but I haven't noticed it in BF2 - but of course I haven't really dove head-first into all the options ('cept to turn off that annoying music and remap all the keys. :D)

Speaking of remapping the keys - I'm not sure if this is something I do out of habit or not, but my Quake4 friend once taught me that W, S, A & D are nice for controls, but get this: if you shift the keys over one key and use E, D, S & F, then you can remap the W, A, & Z buttons for weapons. See, in Quake, you don't have time to 'scroll' through your weapons, and to instantly choose a weapon it's like BF - you press 1, 2, 3, or 4. The problem is, those keys are kind of a distance away - and in Quake4 tournaments, even 1/10th of a second could mean the difference between life and being fragged, so I remap W, A, Z, R, T, & G as weapons I want to whip out in a seconds notice. It's much quicker to hit a single key to pull out a new weapon than it is to try and scroll through your weapons while the enemy is bearing down on your position - and when the keys you need to press are right next to your movement keys, it makes you extremely dangerous. :elol:

it requires you to remap some other keys too in BF2, but in my opinion it's well worth it. Those few tenths of a second you save sometimes mean the difference between victory and defeat.

[MinionZombie]

lol, that's some crazy key mapping I tell thee, I think I'll stick with trusty old WSAD (I used to use the arrow keys until a friend in high school entrusted me with the WSAD knowledge when I was playing the original Counter Strike back in the day).

I just stick to using the number keys to select weapons, never bother scrolling - the scroll button on my infra-red mouse is such a 'tard, half the time it'll scroll in the opposite direction to what you are actually doing - no idea why, wearing out? It's a pain in the ass for scrolling through word documents I tell you...

Dang, will have to wait till Tricky gets online to tell me how to change the map sizes (16, 32, 64)...

[LouCipherr]

yeah, it's not something that's easy to get used to when you re-map the entire keyboard, but it comes in handy. Not so much in BF2, but in Quake4 it's a necessity if you want the 'edge' over your opponent. tenths of seconds count in Q4, so you better be prepared - and even then you'll get your ass handed to you. :lol: I know I do, and I consider myself decent at Q4! :lol:

[Tricky]

Im not sure how you change the size actually,i dont think you can on the single player one,just the online one if your the server admin :(
You lads need to get online & we'll form a squad ;)
Heres my online stats BTW,ive got a shedload of medals,but as i play for the game rather than racking up the points,my ranks still fairly low!
http://bf2s.com/player/68177457/

[LouCipherr]

Tricky - I'm game, but we gotta work on that MinionZombie guy - he's got this thing about hookinig up his gaming rig to the net.. :lol: we'll eventually jack him up on so much HPotD he won't care.. :elol: I know, I know MZ, when you guys get a new 'puter.. I know. :p :D

I'm all for it though.. ;)

Something you mentioned made me laugh - when you said medals, I laughed 'cause I was playing with my Quake friend Steve one day online when we first got the game.. I had just got killed and suddenly a purple heart medal came up and I was like "wow, I got a medal? cool!" until my friend told me "uhhh, that's one of the medals you DON'T want" - then I realized what the purple heart medal was for.. d'oh!! :lol:

I've since become quite a bit better at the game - thank goodness. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

lol, tell me about it ... but my parents are traditional Scots - get the most use out of anything - now, I'm Scottish (deep down at least), but I'm a bit more modern and dispose-happy, ha! If I had my way ... and money ... I'd get a new one swiftly and get busy stomping balls...

Funny you should mention not connecting to the internet with my gaming/editing/viewing/writing rig - not long after you said that I did actually put it online ... no, not for gaming ... spent 8 freakin' hours updating it all. Got some anti-spyware stuff put on there as well as doing all the various Windows updates (of which there was many ... many), also updated Steam for HL2 (and downloaded "Lost Coast" for it - very cool). But damn, it just took FOREVER to update. So now I feel safer about transferring downloaded content over to it (despite taking many precautions on my laptop when I download, hehe).

Was playing some more BF2 today - been heavily into the Bocage 2005 map, lovin' it - also been playing as the enemy to try out some new weapons (the AK-47 is rather nice as it's powerful and more accurate than the allied equivalent - especially in automatic mode).

Been stomping some AI balls ... starting to feel itchy, must go do some more methinks...

But mark my words, one of these days I'll get online and when I get online I'll stomp some balls ... well, until I start dying over and over and over again before cryin' like a li'l bitch and storming offline in a huff. :lol:

[LouCipherr]

:lol:

Well, in case you don't know, lemme tell ya - online play changes the game drastically! It's a whoooole different world playing against real players than it is against the AI. Believe me, I found this out playing Unreal Tournament 2004 & Quake4 with my friend - just us and some bots so I could get used to the MP function. Once we got online, I got my ass handed to me for weeks until I got my skills up to match those other players. I'm not saying BF2 will be this way all the time, but expect the first few game to leave you saying "WTF?! I STOMPED THE AI'S BALLS LAST WEEK!!" :lol:

Y'know MZ, the only issue I see with you playing with some of us over here across the pond is the time differental. How many hours are you off from Eastern Standard Time? In other words, say I live in Washington, DC and it's 12pm (noon) here - what time is it where you're at? That could pose a issue, but could be workable, depending on the time difference.....

LC

[MinionZombie]

Well right now the time is just about 9pm :lol:, so there's probably quite a time difference - that was something I'd forgotten. Cross that bridge, and the ass-handing one, when my folks untie those purse strings and get a new pootah...I feel kinda wrong for saying that whilst typing on the one it'd be replacing ... it's like saying you're getting a new puppy in front of your old faithful labrador or something (not that we ever had a dog of course)...

[LouCipherr]

:lol:

Do you feel like you'll be cheating on your old computer when you get the new one?




Man, that's kinda creepy... :lol:

[MinionZombie]

I always feel guilty about replacing bits of equipment, I felt the same way when I got the snazzy new DVX100B and felt sorry for my Canon MV700i, hehe, I'm just weird that way. I seem to attach a smidge of humanism to my inanimate objects - I guess it's because I take very good care of my things and really appreciate having them as I'm not exactly flush with cash ... heck, I'm not exactly with cash fullstop. :lol:

How crazy am I now? :elol::p

[LouCipherr]

Let's just say you're a few sandwiches short of a picnic! :lol:

[MinionZombie]

lol, perhaps ... perhaps...

Damn, the AK-47 rocks balls in BF2, so much more accurate, was able to kill several people in two shots from a decent length without going prone - now that's more like the aim system of BF:V.

Tried to install a BF2 weapon mod, but didn't work at all...

[LouCipherr]

A weapon mod, eh? If you ever get it to work, let me know.. that could get interesting. :D

Yeah, the AK is pretty kickass - and being able to down someone in 2 shots without going prone is pretty impressive! I do kinda miss the old days of BF1942 and the one-shot-to-the-head kills. I rarely ever get them on BF2. :(

[Tricky]

Once you progress through the ranks online you get weapon unlocks,the upgrade from the AK/M16 is the British SA80,thats a decent weapon,makes playing as a medic a bit easier :D i wouldnt use weapon mods if playing online,punkbuster will ban yo ass from all servers,its quite picky but it does stop a lot of cheaters!

[MinionZombie]

Oh yeah totally, when I play online I don't cheat in any way.

Also, aye, I got a weapons unlock when I first was playing BF2 - initially I didn't even notice the second class of weapons for everyone, then unlocked them with a simple change of the code in unlocks.py (or however it's written) and got them all. The alternate medic gun is much better than the M16-ish thing you get normally. The scope makes for much more accurate shooting - also, gotta love going on a defibrilator rampage. :elol:

Gave up on the weapon mod, the retard who made it gave the word instructions in the world, he kept replacing the words "directory" and "folder" with "map" so it made no sense at all. Even when I changed it, it still made fudge all sense ... so sticking true to my generation's cause, I gave up to go and procrastinate over something else. :lol:

[LouCipherr]

also, gotta love going on a defibrilator rampage. :elol:

OMFG, you're as bad as my friend playing Q4 and killing everyone with the flashlight! :lol: :lol: You should rename yourself in BF2 to "DefribKiller" :lol:

Y'know, I've noticed the AI doing that exact same thing when you get into close-quarters battles with them - they'll pull out those defrib paddles and chase you around everywhere! Bastards! Although i've been lucky and never taken down with the defrib paddles.......yet! :D

[MinionZombie]

Dang, I've been electrocuted a few times. Shame you can't get your own paddles and shock yourself back to life. :lol:

The ddzzziiiitttt!!! noise when you blast someone is great, it's also cool to go saving your own men's lives in the nick of time "thanks buddy" "roger that", hehe.

I wonder which level I'll play today...? Hmmm...

[LouCipherr]

y'know what I do to avoid the defrib bastards? Ever hear of "circle-strafing"?

Well, you use your "A" or "D" key, and hold it down - but at the same time, you move your mouse in the opposite direction so you "circle" around your opponent instead of heading right for 'em or running straight away. In other words - if you're holding down "D", move your mouse to the left at a constant speed keeping your target in the middle of your screen while 'circling' them. Does that make sense?

Circle-strafing is one of the many skillz (:lol:) that you need when playing those high-action-no-time-to-think-'cause-sh*t's-moving-too-fast-to-comprehend games like Quake4. It really is a life-saving technique that can be applied to any FPS game, and in this case, it's the perfect "confusion" weapon to use against the AI and their death-by-defrib attempts. :D


have I mentioned today that UAV strikes kick ass? :elol:

[MinionZombie]

Haven't really bothered with UAV, I thought they just told you where enemies were instead of peeping yourself.

Aye I do the old circle strafe now and then, I usually just go nuts and start jumping in and out, shakin' it all about, proning and then standing, jumping some more, running back and forth, around and around in both directions and it's just the luck of the draw sometimes ... I tell you, seeing that you'd think my character was controlled by someone having a fit. :lol:

[LouCipherr]

:lol:

It sounds like your soldier is having a seizure instead of fighting like a man! :D circle-strafe those suckers and give 'em the smackdown! They'll die with a defribilator in their hand.. what a way to go.. :elol:

As far as the UAV, well, it can tell you where they are, but you can also bomb HUGE areas and take out lots of enemies if placed right in the right spot. Check it out sometime, it's worth the time to figure it out. ;)

[MinionZombie]

Will give the UAV thing a go then ... it's funny you should mention the man having a seizure - I have an infra-red mouse, so from time to time it wigs out and he ends up looking upright and spinning around really fast. :lol:

[Tricky]

If im playing as commander,i use the UAV to guide my jet pilots in on bombing runs,if they pay attention to their radar instead of chasing their own glory then they can rack up some points & help the advancing ground troops out :D sometimes some will request a UAV overflight as well,those ones know how to play the game ;)

[MinionZombie]

Was flying a jet in the game today on the ultra-laggy map that is Operation Hastings (for BF2), but couldn't get any missles to lock on, was handling the flight alright, just killing anything was impossible.

[Tricky]

Ive got quite good at flying jets since i sorted my wireless broadband lag problems out!ive even flown upside down under one of the bridges on wake island,& flown through the hole in the middle of the kubra dam!still nowhere near as good as some of the other flyboys on there though.....
I prefer to be fighting on the ground though,theres always too many people willing to teamkill you for stepping near one of the jets when they want it :( or they initiate a kick vote cos you got the jet they wanted,even though you'd been waiting ten minutes for it!

[LouCipherr]

WOW! Tricky, you could do some of those BF stunt videos flying upside-down under bridges like that! awesome! :D I can fly pretty good, but that's only 'cause I have a Logitech Windman Extreme 3D flight stick. Without that, I'd NEVER get in a plane.. trying to control one with the keyboard and mouse is way too much for my brain to handle.

MZ - y'know, the UAV, when I use it, I do it like this: I join a squad then assume the commanders position. Once I do that, I pull up the commands and request a UAV strike right where i'm at. Once it's confirmed, I boogie my little ass right the hell outta town, and in about 20-30 seconds, it starts raining bombs EVERYWHERE.. :elol: A great way to take out masses of players if they're not paying attention. muhahahahahaha


I prefer to be fighting on the ground though,theres always too many people willing to teamkill you for stepping near one of the jets when they want it :( or they initiate a kick vote cos you got the jet they wanted,even though you'd been waiting ten minutes for it!


and that, my friends, is exacly why I don't like playing BF2 online most of the time. The TK's piss me off, and to vote someone off a map just 'cause they took "their" plane is assinie. :mad:

[LouCipherr]

MZ - I expect a full debriefing on your current BF2 assignment. I know you just got that computer back - how's BF2 running on it now? I'm sure, like Ed would say, "it's like buttahhhhhhh" :lol:

[MinionZombie]

lol, haven't fired it up again on my computer yet. :D

I've been transferring nothing but files from my laptop that I'd downloaded this past week onto it (about 10 gigs, via a USB connector, so it's not the fastest way to move files ... perhaps I can link them with a serial cable, or like in a LAN way, or something like that - I forget the proper term).

Installed the demo of NFS: Carbon though, will give that a go, otherwise I'd been hankering for a 4th play through of Call of Duty 2 to be honest...:eek:

I'm so transient...:shameful head hanging smiley:

[LouCipherr]

BLASPHEMY! :lol:

It's all good...recently I've been playing Jaws Unleashed on my computer (as well as my son, who's only 10 and is better at the damn game than me!) and it's a load of shark-munchin' fun. There are some bugs in the game (some camera and movement issues), but there's nothing like being able to play the shark itself and rip swimmers on the beach apart.. or dragging them through the water in your jaws at a high rate of speed while blood trails behind. :elol:

[MinionZombie]

lol, maniac.

I was taken aback when I saw they'd made a game of the movie, sorta.

I was playing the demo of NFS: Carbon last night, doesn't handle as well as NFS: Underground 2 did unfortunately, looks pretty though, but NFSU2 was better.

Call of Duty 2 here I come, whack that volume up loud and get that M1 Garand pointing at some soon-to-be-dead Nazi bastards! :elol:

[LouCipherr]

Jaws is pretty fun though, especially if you're into games with blood and guts, which of course is exactly my cup of tea. :elol: You can literally eat anything in the game - people, seals, walrus', boats, whales - you name it, it's edible...and the amount of blood in the game makes it all the more fun. You can grab people by the legs, rip them off, then circle around for more chompin' - either on their arm, head, etc - or just grab them and fly through the water with their body in your jaws and watch body parts fall off as your cruise through the ocean. fun!!

Call of Duty - now that's a game I never really got into. I know it's a FPS of sorts, but doesn't CoD have kind of a linear gameplay - meaning it's not a 'free-roaming' game like BF1942 where you can go and do whatever you want, whenever you want?

[MinionZombie]

Well, indeed, Call of Duty isn't as 'free-roaming' as the BF games, and when you pay attention there's a vague path as to where you go, but there are some levels in COD2 where you can take a village, for example, however you want. The action and sheer involvement you feel from the game though, makes up for any possible linear feel - however, Medal of Honour - those games were much more linear, sometimes in Pacific Assault you're going through the jungle but you can see it's a distinct corridor. However, being an FPS nut I didn't mind and was more into it for all the guns and shooting and whatnot.

Call of Duty (and especially COD2) brought real drama and scale to the WW2 FPS genre though, rather than the lone soldier winning it alone, you're just one of many, many men.

You should check out Call of Duty 2, it's great to crank up the volume and feel the bombs going off and get immersed in the drama. I'd wind my housemates up my cranking the volume and blasting away on it. I remember in the first year in campus res, I was playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault and cranked the volume up so loud my room was shaking. No wonder the chinese/japanese/i-don't-know-ese girl next door left her room, haha! BOOM! BOOM! BANG! CRASH! BOOOOOOOOM!!!!

[LouCipherr]

:lol: that is SO not right! That poor girl.. probably having flashbacks. :D

I'll have to check out CoD2. Sounds interesting. Reminds me of a FPS version of Company of Heroes (which is a RTS game, but is one hell of a lot of fun, and when the sh*t starts hitting the fan - bombing runs and such - it really does sound like you're right there on the battlefield. awesome. :D)

[MinionZombie]

Oh if you want virtual battlefield immersion (or what you'd equate being on a battlefield to kinda be like anyway), then go for COD2. Some of the levels really are a barrage of bullets and exploding shells all around you. Mud flying through the air, bullets zipping by your ears and thudding into the scenery around you. Men screaming, grenades flying through the air and exploding all over the place, barrels of fuel bursting into flames, buildings exploding, planes flying overhead, infantry boats exploding to your left and right, bodies flying into the air as a blast knocks them for six, MG-42 gunfire chomping up the surroundings, tanks rolling in, rain/snow coming down, smoke grenades being lobbed forth as you and your men charge screaming into battle ...

Oh man ... I've gotta go play it again, damnit!!!

[LouCipherr]

Now THIS sounds like my kinda game! must......have.....COD2!

*wanders off in search of the holy grail of WWII games* :D

[MinionZombie]

I started playing it again last night, had lost my knack a bit, wasn't bothering to go for cover - which is something you really need to do in COD2. Run from one point to another staying under cover, covering your men and them covering you, gradually advancing towards the retreating enemy. So good.

(Check out filmmaker's forum for that gag reel I was jibber jabbing about a while ago, in case you hadn't seen it yet.)

[LouCipherr]

That almost sounds a bit like farcry - you really need to learn how to 'sneak' around in that game to do good in it. Standing up and running full-force at the enemy will reward you with nothing but bullet holes in your head & chest. :D

[MinionZombie]

It's a good thing I cheat in single player then ain't it? :lol:

It's like a safety net for me, I try to not get shot, but if I do, no big deal and it also means I don't die and get into a hissy fit like a whiny little bitch stomping my feet around because I have to go and re-do a bit I'd just done. :lol:

And this coming from a guy who battled through The Terminator on Sega Mega Drive with no cheats on many occasions...

When I play FarCry I just barge it most of the time, except when I'm snipesing bastards. :elol:

[Tricky]

It's a good thing I cheat in single player then ain't it? :lol:

It's like a safety net for me, I try to not get shot, but if I do, no big deal and it also means I don't die and get into a hissy fit like a whiny little bitch stomping my feet around because I have to go and re-do a bit I'd just done. :lol:

And this coming from a guy who battled through The Terminator on Sega Mega Drive with no cheats on many occasions...

When I play FarCry I just barge it most of the time, except when I'm snipesing bastards. :elol:


Just reminded me of when i first got my PS1 back at xmas '97.I had no memory card & couldnt afford one,so when i played resident evil i had to start from scratch everytime i died,the first time i got right to the end it took me 6 hours,a whole saturday afternoon!only for that knobjockey tyrant to kill me in one swoop :mad: was not happy!

I love far cry,the environments were awesome,& you could snipe someone from 2 miles away & still see all the little details on them!might have to start playing it again,ive been at the old half life 2 again the last week or so :)

[MinionZombie]

lol, as soon as I've gone through Call of Duty 2 again I think I might have to have another razz on FarCry as well, been thinking about it for a little while. It's a beautiful game though. I prefer when you're outdoors, as the indoor segments can get a tad dull ... lol ... I remember when I originally played it I missed the setting to change how the water looked so it wasn't see-through when looking into it from land/above!

I know, retard alert, I eventually remembered that the water should look a damn sight better than what it did (it was reminiscent of Quake, ha!) and changed the setting up a notch and wooooooooooooooooooooooooow, took me by surprise at how good it looked and how cool it was to go swimming around while looking at the scenery above.

The outdoor, sandy beach-involving, day time levels are my favourites. I've played those over and over again because it's just so much fun, and so pretty to look at.

I just wish I had loadsa money so I could get a MONSTER BEAST of a gaming machine that could kick the ass of Crysis when it comes out, it looks sooooooooooooooooooooooo good. I saw some screenshots where it compared real-life photographs to in-game scenes and while I could see the difference, it was minimal. It really looked that good! :eek:

[Tricky]

http://img.pro-g.co.uk/images/pc/crysis/screens/crysis_19.jpg

Ive had this PC almost 2 years now,time for me to upgrade to a monster gaming machine for this :D

[MinionZombie]

nyyyyaaaahhhhhh ... *sigh*

I think I need a change of underwear...

*sigh*

Oh so pretty.

[Tricky]

nyyyyaaaahhhhhh ... *sigh*

I think I need a change of underwear...

*sigh*

Oh so pretty.

Imagine the bullets fizzing through those trees,snapping individual branches off *drool*
Thing is,just as im looking at a dual core,dual sli PC,im now seeing quad core beasts with 1 gig directX 10 graphics cards that only work with windows vista coming over the hill.Technology moves too fast for my wallet to keep up :(

[MinionZombie]

*sigh* Ain't it a bitch ...

I guess go as far as you possibly can on your wallet and make sure you have a decent amount of upgrade-ability. For instance, I can't really upgrade much more beyond getting a larger hard-drive, as my motherboard doesn't have anymore room for RAM and can't support a graphics card higher than the one I have now. In fact, I had to turn off the AGP function because my motherboard (I think anyway) didn't wanna handle it properly. :(

Man ... here I am with a single core and now people are talking about QUAD core... :lol:

[Tricky]

Im looking at this one at the moment,credit card is at meltdown in my pocket

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/uk_ultrasli.asp?v=d

With the money i have at the moment,i could buy that on my credit card,& immedietly pay half of it off,but im not sure......

[MinionZombie]

*drools*

Oh baby, Xmas 2003 I spent about that much on my desktop which had:

512mb RAM - (upgraded to 1gig)
AMD Athlon 2.2ghz
ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 (not sure, 128mb ... I think, could have been 64mb!) - (upgraded to ATI Radeon 9600 256mb)
17 inch CRT - (upgraded to 19 inch TFT)
4x DVD Writer (and another disc drive that only "reads") - (upgraded to 8x ... or is it 16? ... DVD writer)
2 80gig hard-drives

Can't go any further on my current motherboard, if I got a win on the lottery or something (you know, a few thousand), I'd upgrade the whole thing - new motherboard, new graphics, change one of the hard-drives or add a third (is that possible?).

When you change motherboard, does that mean you can change the processer power? Could you conceivably upgrade to a dual core? (I guess that would require Windows Fistula though...)

OR...I'd just get a flat out NEW computer exclusively for gaming and then upgrade my current one with a new hard-drive only to keep it just for editing ... yeah, that'd be a sh*tload easier. :lol: Then of course that would mean there'd be three computers on my desk...:p

[LouCipherr]

All this talk about new rigs.. I dunno if I told you, but I'm taking Dj's current rig off his hands in January (he's giving me an incredible deal on it too) - and for one reason and one reason only: that bastard has a GeForce 7900 in it.

*drool*

the rest of the **** I'm not so worried about as this AMD64 3000+ still does everything I need it to do, but man, I NEED THAT FREAKIN' VIDEO CARD. :lol:

[MinionZombie]

I take it that's a good one then? :p

I've no idea what the nVidia range means, I've always been ATI so if someone says they've got an X1900 then I'm like "you bastard", cos I've got the rather out-dated Radeon 9600...but then again, there are still the odd games coming out which support it, so it's not all bad, and it's stood me in good steed since I got it in 2004.

Man, those were the days, I remember getting that bitch plugged in having had it sent to my term-time address, then fired up FarCry which I got specifically for it and then I got Doom 3 and marvelled at the graphics (whilst sh*tting my pants with fright) ... lol, with Doom 3 I actually talked to myself throughout to keep the scares from scaring me too much.

My housemates kept hearing "oh yeah, come on then ya bastards, ooh yeah, ya think ya hard? come on, F*CK YOU!!! yeeaaaaah, have some of that ya wanker" etc through the walls. :lol: It worked though, I was still sh*t scared, but it helped...

[Tricky]

Yeah Doom 3 & farcry were the benchmark titles back then,to me it was "if i can run doom 3 & farcry on high settings then my PC is **** hot"
My current rig first started struggling when call of duty 2 came out last year,it runs it,but the resolution has to be low (still looks mighty fine) & at certain parts of the game it blips along unless i look at the ground (pointe du hoc,crossing the rhine)
At the moment i have an AMD athlon 64 3400,radeon 9600XT 256mb card & a gig of RAM.It winced & creaked when i played the demo of medieval 2 the other week,had to run it on medium settings for a decent frame rate,same with company of heroes.I wouldnt even dare try it with crysis :lol: such a shame its gone out of date so quick,when i upgrade it will be my third PC in 3 & a half years!

[MinionZombie]

Hmmm, I run Call of Duty 2 rather well, it's on 800x600 yes, but when it was at 1024x768 it was nothing more than a lower than normal frame-rate, so it wasn't that smooth, downgrade to 800x600 and it's smooth as a greased up pig. :D

Very rarely the frame rate drops a few, but only very rarely.

Indeed, same here, I judged it by "well, I can run Half Life 2 perfectly fine" (on 1280x1024 no less ;)) so this must run fine. But of course, I don't take into account that sometimes a game's engine can run like ass. Like that of GTA San Andreas, flying through cloud the frame rate drops to complete ass, but my computer is very much capable of easily running San Andreas, it's just that games engine being stretched too far.

Now, FEAR, that game was beyond me. :( I had to have the settings down so low it was pointless to play it, if it can't look snazzy, there's no point. Plus it would crash to desktop or freeze up, so again, no point.

FarCry occasionally does that, but again it's down to the engine. It's not the most efficient engine, certainly not in comparison to HL2 and Doom3, which run on a wider variety of set ups, FarCry is much more fussy - it refused to run on my All-in-Wonder 9000, yet Doom 3 and HL2 would both run on it (okay, not exactly looking sh*t hot, but they ran nonetheless). So FarCry required me to have that new card...

Oh man, gotta go razzle dazzle on COD2, I'm on the second Brit mission now, the game gets better and better as it goes along, the Americans having the best missions I feel.

[Tricky]

Yeah my PC didnt like FEAR either,it would only run if i made the graphics look like starwing :lol:

http://dorando.emuverse.com/images/starwing.e_02.png

[MinionZombie]

lol, goddamn that's oldschool!

Reminds me of VR Racing or whatever it was called, a F1 style racer on the Mega Drive, had an absolute blast playing it back in the day I remember, was really fun in 2 player mode. Even bought it off a friend in high school a few years after the initial love of the game for a tenner ... played it very briefly and shelved it, just wasn't as fun in comparison to PC gaming and not as fun when playing alone.

I should have taken my Mega Drive to uni to play such games, but didn't want my beloved (and only) console to get stepped on or broken...