OJ Simpson to discuss killings

[axlish]

He will be discussing the details of the killings, if he had done them. What a sick puppy this guy is.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/15/simpsoninterview.ap/index.html

[The Alive Man]

He's not sick, he's evil.

A slap in the face of the authorities and the relatives of the victims...

Terrible.

[Bubdotd]

wow.... thats some heavy stuff...

he's going to make alot of money off that book of his.. im sure alot of people will read it.:shifty:

[EvilNed]

"Nordberg?"

[capncnut]

Too late for that now OJ. Still, I loved you in Capricorn One. :D

[Maitreya]

It disgusts me how the legal system works if you have enough money

[Neil]

It disgusts me how the legal system works if you have enough money

I actually think there's a good chance he's innocent. Don't forget some of the evidence was almost certainly tampered with by the police, and to be honest the police investigation of the crime scene was diabolical. Police officers were actually walking through the crime scene and therefore taking blood from one location to another on their feet. If they had done the investigation properly....

If anyone his son did it...

[axlish]

If anyone his son did it...

So you think a six year old is capable of taking his mother's head nearly clean off with a knife, then overpowering a suprised adult male, and then making sure not to track his little footprints all around the gallons of blood that were spilled, and then get back into bed and sleep the night away?

The guy is discussing the killings "if he had done it" because he is protected by double-jeopardy, and he needs the money. This removes all doubt in my mind.

[_liam_]

i freely admit i know next to nothing about this case, but if he didnt do it, why the GTA style car chase? not the actions of an innocent man, methinks.

still, pretty BIZARRE that he's hypothesising on how he would have done it!

[kortick]

this whole project is sick

the very idea of discussing how you would
kill your wife and her friend
is the product of a sociopath


its called dollar diplomacy

talk about the absolute case of bad taste...

[radiokill]

a bit off subject, but I think we should use lenghty public torture coupled with life imprisonment as a deterrent for homocide. The piece of sh*t that killed my sister is in angola, and he gets to work the gate at the rodeo every year. What kinda sh*t is that? he gets to talk and shake hands w/ whoever the hell he wants for a whole week every year???? anyway, I think public, definitively inhumane torture would be a lot more effective deterrent than death. I know i'd never think about pissing on a sidewalk in singapore even if it meant soiling myself.

[Neil]

So you think a six year old is capable of taking his mother's head nearly clean off with a knife, then overpowering a suprised adult male, and then making sure not to track his little footprints all around the gallons of blood that were spilled, and then get back into bed and sleep the night away?

The guy is discussing the killings "if he had done it" because he is protected by double-jeopardy, and he needs the money. This removes all doubt in my mind.


No, but I think a 24yr old man who:-
- was a mentally deficient alcohol and drug user
- who had a history of a rage disorder
- who was on medication for this disorder, but had stopped taking it
- who had attacked people with knives previously
- who lied about his location at the time of the murders to the police
- who worked as a chef and carried his sharp knives with him

might be a likely suspect...

...and GET THIS... He was was suppose to be cooking a meal at his restaurant for Nicole for the FIRST TIME EVER that night, was excited about the prospect, and she stood him up...

[axlish]

No, but I think a 24yr old man who:-
- was a mentally deficient alcohol and drug user
- who had a history of a rage disorder
- who was on medication for this disorder, but had stopped taking it
- who had attacked people with knives previously
- who lied about his location at the time of the murders to the police
- who worked as a chef and carried his sharp knives with him

might be a likely suspect...

...and GET THIS... He was was suppose to be cooking a meal at his restaurant for Nicole for the FIRST TIME EVER that night, was excited about the prospect, and she stood him up...

Does this explain the cut on his hand/his blood at the crime scene? You say that the crime scene was botched, which it was to an extent, but the real reason that he wasn't convicted is because Mark Furman is a liar and a racist.

[coma]

Does this explain the cut on his hand/his blood at the crime scene? You say that the crime scene was botched, which it was to an extent, but the real reason that he wasn't convicted is because Mark Furman is a liar and a racist.

The real reason is Johnny Cochran.
Furman or Not, if most of us were on trial for that we'd be doing double life.

If he's so innocent why did he have his passport and a big stack of cash in that Bronco?
And why is he "writing" this sick book?!?!
If my GF got murdered would I write "well if I did it, I would've,,,,"
No. Cause thats nuts.

[axlish]

BTW Neil, I am checking out your theory :)
http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/rr00554.htm#Chapter%201

[thxleo]

but the real reason that he wasn't convicted is because Mark Furman is a liar and a racist.

The real reason Simpson was not convicted was because the jury was dominated with 9 black jurors who were ignorant of DNA, they admitted that they did not understand the DNA evidence at all. One of the jurors appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show not long after the verdict and was asked about the Robert Shapiro quote regarding Johnny Cochran delivering the "race card from the bottom of the deck". You know what her reply was? "What is the race card?" One, they were stupid. Two, they were not going to convict their famous "brother" of killing a white woman. They were going to find him not guilty no matter what.
And about Mark Furman...he was a superior investigator. He lied about using the word nigger because he knew what kind of **** storm it would stir up. So what? Like people don't use derogatory remarks all the time. It doesn't change the fact that Simpson was OBVIOUSLY guilty. Anyone that thinks that Simpson was framed for this by the "racist" L.A. police department are as ingnorant as the jury. People should read Furman's book "Murder in Brentwood" about the Simpson case. It is a brilliant and fascinating book.
If you wanna know the truth about Simpson, just look at his actions after the murders. He tried to flee the country with a passport, a disguise, and alot of cash. He then threatened to kill himself. If you were innocent of this, would you have done any of those things? I know I would not have.

[Neil]

Does this explain the cut on his hand/his blood at the crime scene? You say that the crime scene was botched, which it was to an extent, but the real reason that he wasn't convicted is because Mark Furman is a liar and a racist.

Again, not as cut and dry as it sounds, the police say he was wearing gloves, yet the gloves were not cut, and his hand was?

Also some of the blood presented at evidence, when later analysed showed it had already been analysed. ie: It appears blood had been taken away from a lab and then placed at a scene.

Maybe some police realised what a mess they had made of the investigation, and were tempted to try and fix the situation :rolleyes:


It may well be OJ is guilty, but it's not as black & white as it looks and as the media made out IMHO.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the son though!


If you wanna know the truth about Simpson, just look at his actions after the murders. He tried to flee the country with a passport, a disguise, and alot of cash. He then threatened to kill himself. If you were innocent of this, would you have done any of those things? I know I would not have.

Yes, that is odd behaviour... I must admit...

[MinionZombie]

For me, the whole "glove" thing sells it - all that "if the glove don't fit, you must aquit" garbage - there's court video of OJ trying the "small" gloves on, but actually wiggling his fingers around in them. They may be a tight fit, but if you can still move your hands around it proves absolutely fudge all.

As well as the fact he was acting so incredibly weirdly around the whole thing. The 'scared of police racism' angle is also pretty weak in my eyes, OJ isn't some average punk off the streets, he's a celebrity, a sports and movie star. The police would be idiotic to try anything out on him directly.

Piss poor investigation on their part seems to make sense, it will have happened many times before all over the world, but this case just ended up involving a celebrity.

[coma]

Yes, that is odd behaviour... I must admit...

Not if your guilty.:p

[Neil]

Not if your guilty.:p

Or even if you're guilt...


Mind you so is lying as to your location when the murders occured - OJ's son... The evidence against the son is quite high for me... The fact he actually carries knives around in his car, and the fact forensic experts have agreed some of the wounds could be attributed to the knives used in a kitchen, and/or the hunting he carried as well...

[axlish]

Lee, I'm more or less saying that Furman should have not lied under oath because it made him lose credibility. Mix in the fact that most black people in the LA area assume that the police is racist and not to be trusted anyway. I don't normally call folks who say the word Nigger a racist, that would be rediculous, but the manner in which he was using the word in the tape they used proved him to be a biggot. I'm not saying it is a good reason to dispute a murder conviction, but I do think that it played a major role.


Mind you so is lying as to your location when the murders occured - OJ's son... The evidence against the son is quite high for me... The fact he actually carries knives around in his car, and the fact forensic experts have agreed some of the wounds could be attributed to the knives used in a kitchen, and/or the hunting he carried as well...

And the knife that OJ purchased mere weeks before the murders, that matches the stab wounds?

[coma]

As well as the fact he was acting so incredibly weirdly around the whole thing. The 'scared of police racism' angle is also pretty weak in my eyes, OJ isn't some average punk off the streets, he's a celebrity, a sports and movie star. The police would be idiotic to try anything out on him directly.

He wasn't just a star. He was a cuddly guy loved by almost everyone. Never without a smile, nice to fans.
Turns out thats just PR stuff.

and I agree that jury and the Jacko jury should get together and have a stupid party

[radiokill]

and I agree that jury and the Jacko jury should get together and have a stupid party

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Neil]

And the knife that OJ purchased mere weeks before the murders, that matches the stab wounds?

It does... But I'm playing devils-advocate here.

I'm not suggesting there isn't evidence against OJ... I'm just pointing out there's evidence to the contrary, and evidence pointing to others as well...

[Tied2thetracks]

I actually think there's a good chance he's innocent. Don't forget some of the evidence was almost certainly tampered with by the police, and to be honest the police investigation of the crime scene was diabolical. Police officers were actually walking through the crime scene and therefore taking blood from one location to another on their feet. If they had done the investigation properly....

If anyone his son did it...

I don't see how police steal one of his gloves, cover it in blood and place it at the crime sceen, or place blood on his vehicle. It would be alot of work and what would their motive be?

[coma]

I don't see how police steal one of his gloves, cover it in blood and place it at the crime sceen, or place blood on his vehicle. It would be alot of work and what would their motive be?
I agree. What is the motivation? And He wasn't even considered black. Back in the day there were "good" blacks who "trancended" being black. Sounds nuts now, but thats how it was into the 80s.
Also Ecspecially since they were probably mostly Big OJ fans.
Some of you are forgetting Special treatment for Celebreties. They always seem to slide on that alone.
His reputation is what made that so shocking, In the 70s the guy was a sports god.

[Neil]

I don't see how police steal one of his gloves, cover it in blood and place it at the crime sceen, or place blood on his vehicle. It would be alot of work and what would their motive be?

Don't pretend to know... But all we can say is that some of the blood collected seemingly came back out of a lab.


On a side note, wasn't there some evidence about his Bronco? ie: It was seen speeding away near the crime scene?

[Tied2thetracks]

I agree. What is the motivation? And He wasn't even considered black. Back in the day there were "good" blacks who "trancended" being black. Sounds nuts now, but thats how it was into the 80s.
Also Ecspecially since they were probably mostly Big OJ fans.
Some of you are forgetting Special treatment for Celebreties. They always seem to slide on that alone.
His reputation is what made that so shocking, In the 70s the guy was a sports god.

He had a rep for beating his wife.

[Neil]

He had a rep for beating his wife.

And his son had a rep for attacking people (with knives), had a rage disorder, and was seriously let down by Nicole on the night in question :)

ps: And just happens to carry around knives with him in his car...

[_liam_]

here's the list of evidence (sorry if this is a bit spamtastic);

DNA analysis of the blood found in, on, and near Simpson's Bronco revealed traces of Simpson's, Nicole's, and Ronald Goldman's blood.

DNA analysis of bloody socks found in Simpson's bedroom were proven to be Nicole's blood.

Simpson's hair was found on Goldman's shirt even though Simpson claimed not to have been at the home and never to have met Goldman.

DNA analysis of blood on the gloves was proven to be a mixture of Simpson's, Nicole's, and Ronald Goldman's. The gloves also contained particles of Goldman's hair and carpet fibers from Simpson's Bronco.

Arrest records indicate that Simpson had been charged with the beating of his wife Nicole. Photos of Nicole's bruised and battered face emerged. Simpson was sentenced to 3 years of community service for the crime.

Police discovered that the dome light in the Bronco had been removed. A search of the vehicle revealed the light was carefully placed under the passenger seat and was in good working condition. Puzzling blood smears on the passenger floorboard indicated that Simpson may have purposely removed the light and placed it under the seat before the murders (assuming he had indeed murdered Brown Simpson and Goldman). Then after the murders he may have unsuccessfully tried to find it to put it back in the socket. Police on stakeouts routinely remove the dome lights from their vehicles to avoid detection when the car doors are opened.

It was discovered that one set of keys to Nicole Brown Simpson's home were missing. She had indicated to several family members and friends that she feared Simpson had stolen them to gain entry into her home. The keys were later found in Simpson's home.

Paula Barbieri indicated that she had broken up with Simpson the day of the murders. She indicated he seemed very disturbed at the news. Phone records proved that Simpson attempted to contact her shortly before the murders from his Bronco's cellular phone.

The left-hand glove found at Nicole's home and the right-hand glove found at OJ's home proved to be a match. They were also proven to be Simpson's size. Even though Simpson claimed under oath that he did not own a pair of Aris Isotoner gloves, several media pictures emerged showing Simpson wearing these exact gloves.

Bloody footprints in Nicole's home were identified as being made from a pair of Bruno Magli shoes. These shoes are expensive and rare. The size 12 prints match Simpson's shoe size. Simpson claims under oath that he does not own such shoes and in fact indicates that he thinks they "are ugly". A photograph was introduced showing Simpson wearing the exact shoes at an NFL football game. Simpson claimed under oath that the photo is a forgery and is backed up by an expert witness. Later, another photo taken by a different source, also showed Simpson wearing the same shoes at another NFL football game.
Friends and family indicated that Nicole claimed that Simpson had been stalking her. She said that everywhere she went she saw Simpson there watching her. She was afraid because Simpson had already told her he would kill her if he ever found her with another man.

Ross Cutlery provided store receipts indicating Simpson had purchased a 12-inch Stiletto knife six weeks before the murders. A replica of the knife was purchased by the police and provided an exact match to the wounds on Nicole and Ronald Goldman.



er...i dunno...if he didn't do it, he is an unfortunate victim of an almost unprecedented collection of bizarre and extreme coincidences...but then anyone who shared his home with him would also be a likely suspect.

[axlish]

On a side note, wasn't there some evidence about his Bronco? ie: It was seen speeding away near the crime scene?

I want to say it was tossed out, but I think a lady saw the Bronco speeding near the crime scene.

[_liam_]

on a lighter note...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKfEtYYqSl4

he admitted it! :lol:

[Neil]

here's the list of evidence (sorry if this is a bit spamtastic);

DNA analysis of the blood found in, on, and near Simpson's Bronco revealed traces of Simpson's, Nicole's, and Ronald Goldman's blood.

DNA analysis of bloody socks found in Simpson's bedroom were proven to be Nicole's blood.

Simpson's hair was found on Goldman's shirt even though Simpson claimed not to have been at the home and never to have met Goldman.

DNA analysis of blood on the gloves was proven to be a mixture of Simpson's, Nicole's, and Ronald Goldman's. The gloves also contained particles of Goldman's hair and carpet fibers from Simpson's Bronco.

Arrest records indicate that Simpson had been charged with the beating of his wife Nicole. Photos of Nicole's bruised and battered face emerged. Simpson was sentenced to 3 years of community service for the crime.

Police discovered that the dome light in the Bronco had been removed. A search of the vehicle revealed the light was carefully placed under the passenger seat and was in good working condition. Puzzling blood smears on the passenger floorboard indicated that Simpson may have purposely removed the light and placed it under the seat before the murders (assuming he had indeed murdered Brown Simpson and Goldman). Then after the murders he may have unsuccessfully tried to find it to put it back in the socket. Police on stakeouts routinely remove the dome lights from their vehicles to avoid detection when the car doors are opened.

It was discovered that one set of keys to Nicole Brown Simpson's home were missing. She had indicated to several family members and friends that she feared Simpson had stolen them to gain entry into her home. The keys were later found in Simpson's home.

Paula Barbieri indicated that she had broken up with Simpson the day of the murders. She indicated he seemed very disturbed at the news. Phone records proved that Simpson attempted to contact her shortly before the murders from his Bronco's cellular phone.

The left-hand glove found at Nicole's home and the right-hand glove found at OJ's home proved to be a match. They were also proven to be Simpson's size. Even though Simpson claimed under oath that he did not own a pair of Aris Isotoner gloves, several media pictures emerged showing Simpson wearing these exact gloves.

Bloody footprints in Nicole's home were identified as being made from a pair of Bruno Magli shoes. These shoes are expensive and rare. The size 12 prints match Simpson's shoe size. Simpson claims under oath that he does not own such shoes and in fact indicates that he thinks they "are ugly". A photograph was introduced showing Simpson wearing the exact shoes at an NFL football game. Simpson claimed under oath that the photo is a forgery and is backed up by an expert witness. Later, another photo taken by a different source, also showed Simpson wearing the same shoes at another NFL football game.
Friends and family indicated that Nicole claimed that Simpson had been stalking her. She said that everywhere she went she saw Simpson there watching her. She was afraid because Simpson had already told her he would kill her if he ever found her with another man.

Ross Cutlery provided store receipts indicating Simpson had purchased a 12-inch Stiletto knife six weeks before the murders. A replica of the knife was purchased by the police and provided an exact match to the wounds on Nicole and Ronald Goldman.



er...i dunno...if he didn't do it, he is an unfortunate victim of an almost unprecedented collection of bizarre and extreme coincidences...but then anyone who shared his home with him would also be a likely suspect.


Ummmm... What some of your evidence implies is incredible forethought going into the murder, yet other bits imply spur of the moment?

If there was any forethought at ALL why take a knife and not a gun?

Again - Some of the evidence was seemingly tampered with. Blood was seemingly introduced to some locations from samples taken from a lab. Also, weren't there photos showing some items found by police weren't there originally? eg: Socks on the floor?

Why not a single mark on OJ? If he was in a brawl, why no bruises or scratches? His hand had a cut, but if he was wearing gloves why were they intact?


But yes, some of the evidence is very convincing! But some of it is very odd!

EDIT
I've just read some stuff that raises question marks about my question marks! The suggestion blood was introduced to some of the evidence, isn't that conclusive. So I guess more weight to him being guilt!

[radiokill]

If there was any forethought at ALL why take a knife and not a gun?


guns are registered and more difficult to get rid of.

[Neil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhwwTkPYq38&

[coma]

Maybe the gloves were in his pocket and one fell out. That would explain no cut on the glove.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhwwTkPYq38&

"Low point in American Culture" how ironic
"Fox network has nothing to do with Fox news" How interesting that they are owned by the same man, same parnet compnay and have the same name.
God, I hate Bill O'Reilly. A man with a mouthful of crap.