The Duke case was fake, this isn't

[Arcades057]

http://workingclassconservative.blogspot.com/2007/02/whys-duke-hoax-national-news-story-but.html

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why this didn't make the national news? :mad:

[coma]

ugh. Totally depraved and repugnant.
As far as the news, I know what your getting at, but one of the comments pointed out that some of the particulars of the crime might have more to do with it going under the radar.
I cant believe the allegedly female one is 18. She looks like crap. I guess beilng evil will do that to a person.
Hate crimes often have to be directly related to language. I dont think the victims can attest to what words were spoken and to their reasons why other than mayhem. The Duke case supposedly they called her raciallly based epithets.

Was it racist? Probably. Can that be proven? Inly if the perpetartors admit it as such.
If every white guy who grew up in a non white rough area reported, and it was reported truthfully, every bias crime against them the numbers would skyrocket.
I have probably had in the neigborhood of 50 incidents that were racially motivated in my life. I am rounding off, it could be more. Actual violence? Maybe 20 times, as recently as a year ago. people who deny the existence of it have never experienced it. And if they have it was, to them, an abberation. A law should be fairly applied. If its not, dont have it at all. In the end its just language police.

[_liam_]

looks like im not the only sicko who goes on the ogrish forum then

ahem, what? yep. nasty stuff for sure

[slickwilly13]

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. This was a big topic on the boxing forum I belong to. These pieces of sh!t don't deserve to live. Inexcusable! I don't mean to turn this into a gun topic, but this is one of the main reasons I carry a handgun. My friends usually mess with me, because i look everywhere before entering my car. And I keep my car doors locked even when driving. Because you never know when someone might jump into your car and hijack it. No, I didn't learn this from GTA games, either. My dad was a retired cop for the city of Houston.

[coma]

=And I keep my car doors locked even when driving. Because you never know when someone might jump into your car and hijack it..
Thats just good sense. another tip. If you see suspicious types eyeballing you and you want to lock your door, be very discreet when you lock it, like use your forearm.


Please god, not another gun thread:p

[_liam_]

Thats just good sense. another tip. If you see suspicious types eyeballing you and you want to lock your door, be very discreet when you lock it, like use your forearm.


Please god, not another gun thread:p

there's no need to a keep a gun in your car though...:lol: *SOUND OF THUNDER*:confused:

only joking...

[MinionZombie]

Geeeeeeez, what a hideous way to go! :eek::(

Despite the underlying racism to that column, I do agree with the basic principle - racism only works one way, and that's wrong.

Damn straight, and on one hand you can understand quite easily why amongst the black criminal element you might find more race-based violence than vice versa. Revenge for the slave trade and all the other things? Maybe.

These acts committed were clearly the work of intensely disturbed individuals who should be sentenced to nothing less than immediate death, I don't care whether that's "getting off easy", it's better to use to the money that would have been spent incarcerating them on rape crisis centers, the police force and urban redevelopment and so forth. Also, it just purges our world of this hideous scum.

Racism works both ways, but the politically correct brigade simply can't have it, even though it's blatantly there.

Of course, amongst it there are also crimes that aren't based on race, whether the victim is white or black or whether the perp is white or black, it's just "a person" involved in a crime.

[Tricky]

F*cking savages :mad:

[Marie]

Damn straight, and on one hand you can understand quite easily why amongst the black criminal element you might find more race-based violence than vice versa. Revenge for the slave trade and all the other things? Maybe.

It could be, or possibly (and more likely) most black on white crime could be simply because there are LOTS more white people around and they either aren't as careful as they should be or are afraid they'll be thought of as racist IF they are obviously aware of their surroundings, not to mention being thought of as gun nuts if they go about armed.

M_

[coma]

=they either aren't as careful as they should be or are afraid they'll be thought of as racist IF they are obviously aware of their surroundings,..
There is a lot of that going around. Back in college My friend and his girlfriend were tripping and said they were going to walk down at the Lower East Side waterfront late at night. It was really ill back then,Kinda still is. I said I thought that was a horrible idea. His girlfriend started litterally screeching at me that I was an Archie Bunker ignorant racist asshole. I pointed out that,unlike her, I spent my whole life in bad neighborhoods and while you may be ultra (faux) accepting, other people ARE NOT and you are very, very likely to get f*cked up. She called me an asshole for a while longer, then stomped out the door.
3Am they are putzing around in the park after dark, get surrounded my 6 black gangster dudes. They are pawing at her and pretty much telling her they are going to beat my freind senseless and run a train on her. As they proceed a big ass White B Boy rools up with a snarling pit bull and a huge ass Magnum and runs them off. He tells them they are damn lucky and Mad Stupid for screwing around.

They told me later I was right. I told them reality trumps ideals 100 percent of the time and not to preach her BS at me ever again.

I would tell my freinds, when they argued with Ghetto kids to be careful becasue to them its an argument, but to the other people its a white asshole pushing his whiteboy nonsence on them and that it can be extremely dangerous and explode into something they dont expect. I would get a bunch of rich bleeding hearts all preaching and accusing me of being a bigot. Total crap. Just because you want something to be a certain way, doesnt mean it actually IS that way.

I started second guessing myself. I asked some of my Old friends (who arent white) if what I said was rascist. they said
"Nah, dude, they just soft"

[capncnut]

F**king sickening, disgusting and generally disturbing. I'm hoping the screws give all those responsible a good daily kicking in. I know I would.

[Eyebiter]

Um, do people really need to be reminded of the evils of the inner city? Think about it most people avoid these urban areas like the plague already. If the true nature was revealed on the 6pm news no one would ever want to go downtown. So rather than label these areas forbidden zones occupied by enemy forces we choose to live in abject ignorance instead.

Unfortunately every now and then a few law abiding citizens are sacrificed on the altar of race relations. Welcome to America 2007 folks. It's ugly but by god it's politically correct.

[rightwing401]

Man, that whole incident was absolutely sickening. And the only thing that comes close to matching it is the media's disintrest with what happened. Marie and coma are both right. People really need to get it through their thick heads that the world is not a magical fairyland where everyone gets along in blissful harmony.
Down here around New Orleans, we take reality for what it is. There are certain areas that you do not go, and if you don't pay attention to that, you are putting yourself at risk. I truly hope these slim suffer a hundred fold what they dealt out.

[Khardis]

Geeeeeeez, what a hideous way to go! :eek::(

Despite the underlying racism to that column, I do agree with the basic principle - racism only works one way, and that's wrong.

Damn straight, and on one hand you can understand quite easily why amongst the black criminal element you might find more race-based violence than vice versa. Revenge for the slave trade and all the other things? Maybe.

These acts committed were clearly the work of intensely disturbed individuals who should be sentenced to nothing less than immediate death, I don't care whether that's "getting off easy", it's better to use to the money that would have been spent incarcerating them on rape crisis centers, the police force and urban redevelopment and so forth. Also, it just purges our world of this hideous scum.

Racism works both ways, but the politically correct brigade simply can't have it, even though it's blatantly there.

Of course, amongst it there are also crimes that aren't based on race, whether the victim is white or black or whether the perp is white or black, it's just "a person" involved in a crime.

If blacks want revenge for slavery they should attack other blacks. Didnt you know that blacks were some of the biggest slave owners in the USA? Also the majority of blacks sold into slavery to Europeans were sold by other blacks.


It could be, or possibly (and more likely) most black on white crime could be simply because there are LOTS more white people around and they either aren't as careful as they should be or are afraid they'll be thought of as racist IF they are obviously aware of their surroundings, not to mention being thought of as gun nuts if they go about armed.

M_

Or blacks simply are more racist. They are simply mroe race obsessed in the united states thats for sure. Would make sense I suppose.


There is a lot of that going around. Back in college My friend and his girlfriend were tripping and said they were going to walk down at the Lower East Side waterfront late at night. It was really ill back then,Kinda still is. I said I thought that was a horrible idea. His girlfriend started litterally screeching at me that I was an Archie Bunker ignorant racist asshole. I pointed out that,unlike her, I spent my whole life in bad neighborhoods and while you may be ultra (faux) accepting, other people ARE NOT and you are very, very likely to get f*cked up. She called me an asshole for a while longer, then stomped out the door.
3Am they are putzing around in the park after dark, get surrounded my 6 black gangster dudes. They are pawing at her and pretty much telling her they are going to beat my freind senseless and run a train on her. As they proceed a big ass White B Boy rools up with a snarling pit bull and a huge ass Magnum and runs them off. He tells them they are damn lucky and Mad Stupid for screwing around.

They told me later I was right. I told them reality trumps ideals 100 percent of the time and not to preach her BS at me ever again.

I would tell my freinds, when they argued with Ghetto kids to be careful becasue to them its an argument, but to the other people its a white asshole pushing his whiteboy nonsence on them and that it can be extremely dangerous and explode into something they dont expect. I would get a bunch of rich bleeding hearts all preaching and accusing me of being a bigot. Total crap. Just because you want something to be a certain way, doesnt mean it actually IS that way.

I started second guessing myself. I asked some of my Old friends (who arent white) if what I said was rascist. they said
"Nah, dude, they just soft"

Clearly your friends fault and not the black gangster thugs.

[Danny]

holy **** that is vile, repugnant, obscene, vicouse and all around ****ing evil.

now its people like THAT that are a good case for evolution, since they clearly aint got up to the point the rest of our species has yet, freakin' whatjobs.

gotta say though if you look at the way that article is written, there aint much respect for the dea dhuh?, he writes it like its a movie review.

[DeadJonas190]

Disgusting crime, they deserve nothing less than the death penalty. It was a hate crime, no doubt about it.

On the issue of race. I caught a black guy trying to short change another employee by pulling the old "I gave you a $50 now give me change for this..." routine. I was ordering food on the phone right next to her at the time and realized what was going on so I hung up the phone and shut her register drawer and took the money right out of her hand and said "No, he is trying to short change you, this isn't going to happen." He immediatly started to scream racism and a coworker of mine, who happens to be black, went off on him about trying to pull the race card out and how it gives blacks a bad name. At the same time, my manager took the drawer and immediatly counted it down and guess what, it was $50 short, apparently he had taken some of her change and put it in his pocket and I didn't see it. The black guy I work with then told him to give us our money and this guy offered to give him $20 to keep it quite because "Us blacks gotta watch each othas back" so the guy I work with told him "I hate theives, give me the money now" and the dude backed down, gave him the money and then called him "racist against his own people" and took off. The best part is, he gave us too much back so we short changed the short change artist.

Anyway, I just find it disgusting that because I am white and I catch a thief, that I am accused of being a racist. It has happened a copule times at work and every time it' kind of makes me laugh. I guess I stop theives because I am a racist, not because it's part of my job. Ya learn something new every day...

[capncnut]

gotta say though if you look at the way that article is written, there aint much respect for the dea dhuh?, he writes it like its a movie review.
What do you expect? It's from Ogrish. :D

[jdog]

thats just nasty and hardcore. some peaple are animals.

[coma]

On the issue of race. I caught a black guy trying to short change another employee by pulling the old "I gave you a $50 now give me change for this..." routine. I was ordering food on the phone right next to her at the time and realized what was going on so I hung up the phone and shut her register drawer and took the money right out of her hand and said "No, he is trying to short change you, this isn't going to happen." He immediatly started to scream racism and a coworker of mine, who happens to be black, went off on him about trying to pull the race card out and how it gives blacks a bad name. At the same time, my manager took the drawer and immediatly counted it down and guess what, it was $50 short, apparently he had taken some of her change and put it in his pocket and I didn't see it. The black guy I work with then told him to give us our money and this guy offered to give him $20 to keep it quite because "Us blacks gotta watch each othas back" so the guy I work with told him "I hate theives, give me the money now" and the dude backed down, gave him the money and then called him "racist against his own people" and took off. The best part is, he gave us too much back so we short changed the short change artist.

Anyway, I just find it disgusting that because I am white and I catch a thief, that I am accused of being a racist. It has happened a copule times at work and every time it' kind of makes me laugh. I guess I stop theives because I am a racist, not because it's part of my job. Ya learn something new every day...
There is also a "quick Change" con. Its a thing that you encounter when you work any kind of register.
They talk fast, change their mind and confuse you. Basically its the confusion that makes you a mark. Thats why people dont put bills in the slots until the transaction is done.
I was bartending and some one tried to do that to me. It was a punk bar and this old black man in a pimp suit walks in and tries to pull a game on me. I told him to stop and he was full of s**t. He accused me of taking a 50 and I was a rascist. I was waiting on my change from the boss cause I just opened. I showed him the drawer and It had ONLY A FIVE DOLLAR BILL in it. He walked out yelling racist. I told him to eat me.
I had variations of that happen and Im not having it. It is really easy to get caught up in one

The problem with articles like that is they are claiming justice, but trying to foster fear and bigotry. And all that detail was just pornographic

[triste realtà]

This story is one of the scariest I've ever read.