I hate my neighbors. Film Making related!

[Dawg]

I was downstairs in my front living room, trying to do some lines for a scene on a Sunday afternoon in a city.

That is several mistakes in one because you have kids, loudmouths, traffic, dogs, etc, etc.

My windows were closed, but unfortuately my house is like 130 years old, so it really doesn't have any insulation and the windows are single pane.

So, I had to take the time and pause between mindless babble before I could resume filming. Now don't get me wrong, I understand it is nice out now and it is Sunday, so kids will be out playing, but why do adults have to talk really f**king loud as well?!

Then you got the idiots that have nothing better to do than to drive up and down the street, back and forth. It is f**king stupid, especially the @$$holes who squeal their tires, which fortuately didn't happen today. Then there is the f**king scruff of a mutt across the street. The little hyper-@$$ furball is going to have a heart attack one of these days if it doesn't calm down.

Anywho, I managed to get the dialogue, thank God.

This may sound crazy, but I need to finish filming this damn movie in my house soon, because I want to sell it and move out of town. (I hate cities, give me the country anyday.)

:dead: Dawg

[Danny]

man i get that, im currently working on about 5 things at once, and i thought it would be cool to do a little documentary bit for all 5 then add it together as one big one, and i wanted to do a little intro to each and my house is practially the msot unsoundproof it could be and it doesnt help you waiting for a time when the familys out for the day that when you try to film some "allright so what happened next was we.." it gets intterrupted by nmy neighbours yelling "AMY GET THE **** BACK IN BED!":lol:

[MinionZombie]

Agreed, the country is better than the city, it's more relaxed and it's quieter, SO MUCH QUIETER ... and you don't get that orange glow (I really noticed that when at uni living in the city, the orange glow was insane, I really missed the silence and natural light of the countryside).

Anyway, yep, there's always some noise getting in the way. I was recently filming an interview, and we were half way done and some bastard outside starts using some loud ass machine to remove gum from the pavement, we asked for a 5 minute respite and quickly wrapped it up.

I remember recording dialogue for the first IAZM, and being the summer I had my window open, and being the summer and in the country, you've got some muppet out loud driving around in their ridiculously loud car with a bored-out exhaust, so I had to sit there for like 3 minutes until the noise went away (seriously, it hung around for ages).

The little frustrations of filmmaking I guess, but yeah, sometimes your neighbours can be really loud. We don't get loud talking around here, but one of my neighbours has like 80 million cars in his driveway and there's always some f*cking engine revving on a Sunday morning when you're trying to get some lie-in time ... or - a f*cking yappy dog yapping away. We've not heard much lately, but for quite a while every morning and then again in the afternoon everytime another neighbour put their stupid little dog outside it'd just bark incessantly, it was INTENSELY ANNOYING. I wanted to run over there and punch the living sh*t out of the owners - TRAIN YOUR F*CKING DOG AND HAVE THE RESPECT TO ACTUALLY BE AROUND TO LOOK AFTER IT YOU F*CKING TWATS!

*sigh*

Yep, I'm in a grumpy mood tonight...anyway, I feel what you're saying...

[Danny]

i think the worst is when your out "doon tha' toon" with your camera filming theres those frikkin' teenybopper mopagans that rev there hairdryers like there real choppers.


****s.:lol:

[bub21]

i love on a 30-acre farm in maine, so i cant say i feel your pain, but oh well, **** em!!

[MinionZombie]

Damn, I wish I lived on a massive load of land like that, I'd never be short of somewhere to film! :)

[Dawg]

Definitely, a lot of land would be nice. You can make good use of it, especially in a zombie flick.

As for yapping dogs, that is the worst kind of security if they constantly bark. But if they only bark when someone is near or fooling around, then they are good.

Most of the time it is some little $hit dog that won't shut the f**k up for the life of it. Those little b@$tards are the worse, because they tend to compresate for their lack of statue.

Hate everyone of those yappy b@$tards! :mad: (I actually had a min-pin for a minute, didn't last. About a week after, gave that damn thing away to someone who wanted to put up with its hyperactive @$$.)

:dead: Dawg

[MinionZombie]

Urgh, yep, the dog nearby me was/is one of those incessant yappers ... I think maybe they've either got rid of it or they've trained it, because I haven't heard a lot of yapping lately, but for a good few months there it was nothing but that f*cking yapping between 7 and 8am, then again in the afternoon ... occasionally in the middle of the f*cking night. One of our neighbours moved because of it, the final nail in the coffin so-to-speak.

[capncnut]

Then you got the idiots that have nothing better to do than to drive up and down the street, back and forth. It is f**king stupid, especially the @$$holes who squeal their tires, which fortuately didn't happen today. Then there is the f**king scruff of a mutt across the street. The little hyper-@$$ furball is going to have a heart attack one of these days if it doesn't calm down.
I used to mess around doing audio skits with my pals and the noise outside my house used to be atrocious. All the neighbours driving in/out, doors slamming (sometimes at 2am!), dogs barking, foxes calling/fighting ensured there were many re-takes. I just wanted to stick my head out the window, tell the world to shut the f**k up and give me thirty minutes silence. Jeez, who am I kidding? Even dead people only get one minute. :D

[Minerva_Zombi]

Yeah I just finished a film recently called "Dolor & Delirium" and while we were shooting, there was this dog that WOULD NOT SHUT UP!!! So, i said **** it, lets add the dog to the film. So, i just added shots of the dog barking at the camera to establish that the man had a loud ass dog. lol

[capncnut]

So, i said **** it, lets add the dog to the film. So, i just added shots of the dog barking at the camera to establish that the man had a loud ass dog.
Nice switch. :sneaky:

[MinionZombie]

Working within your constraints, well played, Clerk ... :sneaky:

That's always the best way, incorporate things you can't get rid of, if you can't find a way around the problem that would work well.

I've been lucky thus far, only occasionally has filming been a little bit interupted by a dog walker, or a passing car, it's quite quiet around where I live and there's plenty of places to go film and be left totally alone ... I could film woodland pornos! :lol:

[capncnut]

I hate pornos that are filmed outside. They either shag uncomfortably up a tree or on a beach where all the sand gets in her wossitsname and that :dead:. The jizz never lands where it should 'cos the wind blows it in the wrong direction and they're always looking over their shoulder to see who's cumming ;). Give me a good old fashioned dungeon anytime.

[MinionZombie]

*hellsing, NO gheay little quips or one liners*

Back on topic, as I'm sure Dawg would prefer the topic to remain at least a little bit on track...

As for filming in public, it can be a right pain in the ass, because people keep looking at the damn camera and ruining your shot, or they keep coming up asking what you're up to - I'm painting a picture of the Queen, wazzit look like?! I have a deadline to meet thank you very much ... although I'm actually polite and wrap it up as quick as possible in real life as I'm not a total dickhead.

As for having a load of land at your disposal, I had a good run in Llangarron for a while, but Knox's family are moving out of that place to somewhere else, so that's a whole chunk of countryside now cut off! :eek:

That's where I filmed "my NIGHTMARE", "Trapped" and both IAZMs.

[LouCipherr]

Dawg - I think we all feel your pain. ;)

After reading your inital post, it reminded me of filming at my house for Deadlands. I distinctly remember one night we were filming on the front lawn. There were probably 15 of us total out front (Dj, our DP, myself, my wife, and a few zombie extras). As we went to film one scene, a white Ford Tarus (or something along those lines) drives by just as Dj says "ACTION!" - which was quickly followed up by "FU*K! CUT!!!!"

So, we waited a few seconds, the road was clear, so it was "ACTION!" again.

Not a MINUTE later, the same jackass circles around the block and drives by AGAIN! It's pretty obvious we are filming, but the idiot apparently wasn't smart enough to realize that his car is getting in the way.

This happens about 2 more times, at which point Dj is getting really pissed off at this person.

We went for another take - and this time, the idiot didn't just circle around and drive by, he pulls over right across the street from my house - lights are on, the engine is running, and his was window down - not to mention he was talking so goddamn loud to the other person in the car that his voice was echoing through the neighborhood.

Dj finally had enough and walked over to car and said "y'know, i don't care if you want to sit here and watch but TURN YOUR GODDAMN CAR ENGINE & LIGHTS OFF AND SHUT UP!" (or something close to that) and stomed away from the car back to the set. :lol:

Needless to say, the guy left about a minute later. :lol:

That was one of many, many, many interruptions we had to deal with - and that was the one I thought for sure would cause Dj to pull the guy outta the car window and kick his ass. :lol: I don't remember why the night was a tense one, but I do remember it was getting pretty tense on the set - then this sh*t went down. I wish we would've got that on tape. :D

There is one thing we have audio of, but no video. Again, filming at my house. My neighborhood is pretty busy, and we were filming on the weekends, so there's always cars zipping up and down my street. This made Dj none-too-happy. :D I distictly remember watching one of the playbacks and hearing "action" from Dj - followed 3 seconds later by a car diving by and Dj shouting "MOTHERF*CKER!" at the top of his lungs while throwing down his water bottle - which sounded like a gunshot when it hit the ground!! :lol:

Nobody ever said we were patient. :D

It's always somethin'..

[MinionZombie]

:lol:

I'd f*cking pay to go back in time and across the pond to see that sh*t, alright. :D

Directorial swearing fits are great, aren't they?

[LouCipherr]

:lol:

I'd f*cking pay to go back in time and across the pond to see that sh*t, alright. :D

Directorial swearing fits are great, aren't they?


Hell yes! and Dj can spazz-out with the best of 'em if you get under his skin enough!! :lol: :lol:

I'm actually surprised he hasn't popped in and said "damn right I flip out!" :D

LC

[DjfunkmasterG]

:lol:

I'd f*cking pay to go back in time and across the pond to see that sh*t, alright. :D

Directorial swearing fits are great, aren't they?

There would be a $10,000 cover charge.


Hell yes! and Dj can spazz-out with the best of 'em if you get under his skin enough!!

I'm actually surprised he hasn't popped in and said "damn right I flip out!"

I cannot lie, I do freak out easily. Of course in retrospect I shouldn't have as it was Lou's Neighborhood and I lived 50 miles away. So his neighbors would be more pissed at him.

However, yes that night I did flip out something awful. I think the night with the Taurus was when we started refilming in March of 2006. The MUTHERF*CKER night was in November of 2005. However, dumbass with the car (Taurus) just kept circling the block and just when we thought it was safe to start filming he would come zooming by and then park and let his car run. I did want to yank him out of the car, but I remember Lou's wife telling me I had to be on my best behavior. :D

[LouCipherr]

It's all good Dj. We didn't piss anyone in the neighborhood off. Besides, the neighbors I do like (to the left, when facing my house) could've cared less if we filmed 'till 4am. They're good people, and very understanding - not to mention, they were into what we were doing. They'd come over during the week and ask about it. :)

The people across the street, however, I could've given a good goddamn less if they got pissed. Long story, but we've never got along with those idiots, so I would've been happy to take your mustang and do donuts in their front yard at 3am on a monday morning. :elol:

As to the rest of the neighborhood - on the weekends, there are people making noise at all hours of the night around us. As far as I'm concerned, we were filming on the weekends and weren't disturbing anyone, so they can all bite me. :D

My wife was the worried one - her and my mother in law. "please be quiet, we don't wanna piss off the neighbors" - heh, then we'd run right outside and scream "ACTION!!" and next thing you know, 30 people on the front lawn are going "BRAAAAAAAAAINS!!!" :lol: :lol:

LC

[coma]

:lol:

Directorial swearing fits are great, aren't they?
Not if they are directed at you!

[LouCipherr]

Not if they are directed at you!

He has a point! :lol:

[coma]

He has a point! :lol:
Been on both sides. I tend to only yell at malfunctioning gear. Totally useless, but I cant help it!

A director said to me without a good reason
"One of these days Im going to punch you in the face"
I laughed in his mug and said
"If your going to do it, do it now so we can get back to work"
He Pretty much got owned by my misdirection laden joke.

btw, MY neighbors are the loudest and the stupidest. I guarantee it!

[MinionZombie]

Coma - definitely. Being on the receiving end ain't funny at all, I've no time for wankers who shout at their crew, f*ck that.

But shout at the barking dog, malfunctioning gear and annoying chavs as much as possible I say, it's entertainment for a crew. :)

[coma]

Coma - definitely. Being on the receiving end ain't funny at all, I've no time for wankers who shout at their crew, f*ck that.

But shout at the barking dog, malfunctioning gear and annoying chavs as much as possible I say, it's entertainment for a crew. :)
There is filming all over NY all the time. Form Julia Roberts tripe to LAw and Order. They blew up the bus in Denzel Washingtons Siege right down my old block.
The DP's are self important dicks.
"you cant walk down here" (In an authoritarian tone with their hand out)
to which I respond
"F**K YOU!"

Some people wont move unless you pay them because the reality is
The permit gives them the right to shoot
AND THAT"S ALL.

I'm not impressed by film crews> this Is NY not the friggin sticks. I see that stuff almost weekly.

[Dawg]

It's all good Dj. We didn't piss anyone in the neighborhood off. Besides, the neighbors I do like (to the left, when facing my house) could've cared less if we filmed 'till 4am. They're good people, and very understanding - not to mention, they were into what we were doing. They'd come over during the week and ask about it. :)

The people across the street, however, I could've given a good goddamn less if they got pissed. Long story, but we've never got along with those idiots, so I would've been happy to take your mustang and do donuts in their front yard at 3am on a monday morning. :elol:

As to the rest of the neighborhood - on the weekends, there are people making noise at all hours of the night around us. As far as I'm concerned, we were filming on the weekends and weren't disturbing anyone, so they can all bite me. :D

My wife was the worried one - her and my mother in law. "please be quiet, we don't wanna piss off the neighbors" - heh, then we'd run right outside and scream "ACTION!!" and next thing you know, 30 people on the front lawn are going "BRAAAAAAAAAINS!!!" :lol: :lol:

LC

You didn't just say, 'Brains', did you?!!

You aren't making a 'Return of the Living Dead' sequel are you?! Real zombies eat flesh damnit, not brains!! :eek:

Hehe! :D

:dead: Dawg

[DjfunkmasterG]

we were actually goofing off a little that night. I wanted to do a take of the zombies running from around from the side to the front of the house yelling brains. I have just one take of that.


Otherwise Deadlands is a full flesh eating zombie film. :D

[LouCipherr]

You didn't just say, 'Brains', did you?!!


:lol:

that was just a joke - actually, we did that take of zombies saying 'brains' as a funny outtake, but that was about it.

No 'talking' zombies in Deadlands, I can assure you of that. :D

LC

[MinionZombie]

:lol:

that was just a joke - actually, we did that take of zombies saying 'brains' as a funny outtake, but that was about it.

No 'talking' zombies in Deadlands, I can assure you of that. :D

LC
And no drug-drowned, hooker-obsessed zombies either ... otherwise we'd have to have words. :elol::p:D

[DjfunkmasterG]

And definitely no wannabe singers turned gas station attendant zombies in Deadlands. Our zombies are the real deal and don't display emotion. :D

[Mike]

There is nothing worse than having "Rubber Neckers" around while you are trying to film a scene.

The worst I have experienced was; when we were filming a road safety comercial. The shooting was taking place in a car park which we had closed to the public and we were filming scenes involving actors driving vehicles.

Unfortunately we just happened to be filming across the street from a school and at 3pm all of the parents were coming to collect their kids.

The problems arose when the parents took more interest in what we were doing then keeping their eyes on the road while picking up their kids. The amount of near misses that occured that afternoon were to many to count, so for safety's sake we shut down the set for an hour just in case.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Maryland is known for it's Rubber Necking. I think this state invented Rubber Necking. I can honestly say we never had anyone wreck because of us, but we did have a lot of people drive by and check things out.

[Mike]

Thats why I sometimes prefer shooting in a studio than on location, to avoid the distractions and anoyances that shooting in public gives.

But at the same time that takes away the magic from shooting in a real location and as long as the rubber neckers don't cause to many distractions and are quiet while shooting is taking place, it isn't a problem.

[LouCipherr]

Maryland is known for it's Rubber Necking. I think this state invented Rubber Necking. I can honestly say we never had anyone wreck because of us, but we did have a lot of people drive by and check things out.

yeah, and some of them parked right on the f*cking set and thought leaving their lights on and engine running was a good idea. :lol:

Some people just have no common sense.

[DjfunkmasterG]

I should do a ZACK SNYDER and Rent a sound stage and Blue SCreen the whole ****ing thing and shoot Deadlands 2 via Chromakey. :D

[Mike]

I should do a ZACK SNYDER and Rent a sound stage and Blue SCreen the whole ****ing thing and shoot Deadlands 2 via Chromakey. :D

hey why not! If you have the budget use what is available :D

In all seriousness though, In my film we shot a scene in a studio and had a set constructed. it offered us so much flexibility in what shots we could take; if we wanted a certain shot we could just move a wall out of the way :) plus we had to rig a green screen for a special fx sequence so a studio was the most practical option for us.

But that experience didn't compare to shooting in a real house and on a real street with gawking residents asking when the film will be cinemas :)

Gawking residents can be extremly annoying if they continually disrupt a shot or become safety hazzards but they are also a lot fun to have around as it allows everyone to enjoy the experience of film making.

[Mutineer]

Most of the issues in this thread could be avoided with Scouting the locations in advance. Maybe consider ADR in the future (adapt).

Must be nice to have entire city block locked off like the big boys.

[Danny]

what does scouting a location have to do with people?, if you scout a place out and theres no people how is that supposed to mean the place wont have lots of people when you go filming?:rockbrow:

[MinionZombie]

In terms of knowing what 'you're in for', scouting a location is a good idea. You can't always do it, or there isn't time (which I've found), however I did do location scouting/shot blocking prior to shooting "my NIGHTMARE", and as a result, I knew exactly what I was in for (and where to shoot) for "Trapped" and both IAZM films. :p

[Mutineer]

It's tougher at our level (lo/no guerilla) but we can still scout, get permits, plan in advance. ADR as much as possible was once suggested to me; within reason of course :D

[MinionZombie]

Permits?! F*ck those! :lol:

Well, depends on where I'm filming, I like to stay out of people's way and just go it guerilla, or if I'm elsewhere I ask nicely if I can "just get a few shots, we won't get in your way" and they're generally perfectly happy.

In fact, the other week, I was working on this documentary I've talked about before, and we were getting an interview with this bloke and we were meeting at a pub and were looking for a good place to film, and one of the girls who worked there said they had a kind of 'hospitality room' type thing and said we could use it and that she'd put a sign on the door telling people to be quiet, so that was really nice. Nice room too.

Obviously when I get around to working on larger scale stuff (and fictional-based stuff) then I'll seek out the permissions, but hopefully I'd have somebody to specifically do that so I can stay 'in the zone'. :p

[LouCipherr]

Did he just say "get permits"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dj tried DESPERATELY to get filming permits for Baltimore City, Baltimore County, Anne Arundel County, and a few others i'm sure. You know what response we rc'vd from the Maryland Film Commission (who you would think would be willing to help low budget independent filmmakers!)?

"Sorry, we only cater to films with at least a 10 million dollar budget"

That was the bottom line of the conversation (correct me if i'm wrong Dj). So what did we do? That's right, we stole the shots we needed of the city. F*ck them. You're the state film commission and you won't even help the little guy? I guess you need to be Barry Levinson or John Waters to get a permit around here.

*extends middle finger 'twards the film commission*

Not to mention, the demands they had if you did get a permit were unreal. We would've needed a 10 mil budget to be able to pay the fire department, police, and structural engineers (we wanted to film in an abandoned firehouse/warehouse) that were REQUIRED to be on site by the film commission! How the f*ck do they expect a low budget operation like ours ($15,000) to be able to afford that? Oh yeah, they don't - and I think that was their whole point. :mad:

Basically, when we filmed Deadlands, we were on our own. NO ONE would help, and the idea of 'scouting' a location was pretty much not possible. I mean, consider we used my house, my uncles house, a hall we rented, and the one street in Gaithersburg - which, I must admit, the people who run the city of Gaithersburg DID give us a permit and were VERY cool to us.... but that was one town out of the thousands in maryland - and NONE of which were cooperative no matter how much we tried to cater to them or how much we were willing to go out of our way to make it happen.

Permits, on our level of filmmaking, you might as well consider them non-existent.

At least around here where Dj and I live.

LC

[Danny]

my idea of scouting is just spotting somewere whilst driving round, two good examples i discovered yesterday.
a proper like 1000+ year old church from god knows what era built on the edge of a 10 foot high cliff over looking a village green, plus its near a moor and has floowlights, so looking up you see a cemetry full of old gothic gravestones with mist flowing around them and the floodlights from the other side of the church piecre the night and give the fog more visible form and that shines through a massive oak tree, totally impressive at night and you'd have to build all that in a studio if you were in hollywood but i jsut stumbled on a great set location to film, should i ever need to, and less than 2 miles from my house.
the second one is 2 miles in the other direction (but only accesible by car:dead: ) an old abandoned farm route over an old rusty as fook metal bridge that looks like a little version of the golden ate bridge but without the big support towers, and surrounding it is 3 farms, 1 is abandoned but to be honest they all look dialpidated and 2 have shotgun wielding farmers in, now THAT requires scouting:lol:

seriously i may get out to film soon now its finally getting sunny over here now and that area is great it used to be a town but it was just slowly abandoned, theres even like a bulletin board from the 60's thats all covered in moss and grime, that could be used ina zombie short as a way to show how "people havent been around for a long time", y'know give it that look of nature creeping back in.

once again though those were jsut random findings, no scouting , no permits needed to my knowledge and better locations than in some flicks you'd see and all you gotta do is goes there with a camera and start filming.:cool:

[MinionZombie]

Ah geez, no-one under 10 mil? What a bunch of dil-lickers, you'd have thought they'd have some kind of help for indie productions, especially as it might inspire more filmmaking in the area, which could end up being a really good idea for the city, geez.

Yeah, f*ck permits at this level, either nigh-on-impossible, or completely pointless ... you're best off putting on a friendly smile, a handshake and a very nice demeanour followed up with a side salad of greatfulness.

[LouCipherr]

That's what we tried to tell them, MZ - "This will do nothing but promote Baltimore, and as a result, you could get more business from other filmmakers if they like what they see in the shots" but nooooooooooooooo, that wasn't good enough for these pricks.


...you're best off putting on a friendly smile, a handshake and a very nice demeanour followed up with a side salad of greatfulness.

Which is exactly what we did. Good advice. :) We had some trouble with the community association where we rented the hall for the shelter scenes. They rented the place to us, and we told them we were filming a movie, but not what KIND of movie. Well, they got wind of what the movie was about and almost cancelled our reservations. We assured the lady that we wouldn't be making noise after 11pm (we did, but no one cared - we were inside filming attack scenes, which wasn't too loud from the outside) and that we wouldn't have people dressed up in bloody rags walking the neighborhood. After days of reassurance to this lady by Dj, she finally gave in and let us film there. Once she saw how we worked that first weekend, she was really into the project, and people from the neighborhood got into it and even came down to watch us work. It turned out pretty to be a pretty damn cool situation all around. She even let us rent the place again like 2 or 3 times for pickup shots. :D

As far as my neighborhood - none of our neighbors cared (most were really into it), and the one that might've cared, well.. we could've cared less if they complained. They never did, but it didn't matter to us one way or another. We weren't getting permits no matter what - the maryland film commission saw to that - and since we were filming on my property and only filming my house, they had no right to complain to begin with.

Besides, we always cut off filming before midnight when we were in a residental neighborhood anyway, out of respect for neighbors. That seemed to be acceptable to them as we never had any issues.

[coma]

In NYC if you dont have a tripod and a small cast you can claim "Ametur film" and avoid a permit. Whip out the tripod and you might have a problem.
As long as you dont have guns you can Guerilla away.
But NYC is really friendly to all kinds and levels of filmmakers and they will work with you.

[Dawg]

Did he just say "get permits"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dj tried DESPERATELY to get filming permits for Baltimore City, Baltimore County, Anne Arundel County, and a few others i'm sure. You know what response we rc'vd from the Maryland Film Commission (who you would think would be willing to help low budget independent filmmakers!)?

"Sorry, we only cater to films with at least a 10 million dollar budget"

That was the bottom line of the conversation (correct me if i'm wrong Dj). So what did we do? That's right, we stole the shots we needed of the city. F*ck them. You're the state film commission and you won't even help the little guy? I guess you need to be Barry Levinson or John Waters to get a permit around here.

*extends middle finger 'twards the film commission*

Not to mention, the demands they had if you did get a permit were unreal. We would've needed a 10 mil budget to be able to pay the fire department, police, and structural engineers (we wanted to film in an abandoned firehouse/warehouse) that were REQUIRED to be on site by the film commission! How the f*ck do they expect a low budget operation like ours ($15,000) to be able to afford that? Oh yeah, they don't - and I think that was their whole point. :mad:

Basically, when we filmed Deadlands, we were on our own. NO ONE would help, and the idea of 'scouting' a location was pretty much not possible. I mean, consider we used my house, my uncles house, a hall we rented, and the one street in Gaithersburg - which, I must admit, the people who run the city of Gaithersburg DID give us a permit and were VERY cool to us.... but that was one town out of the thousands in maryland - and NONE of which were cooperative no matter how much we tried to cater to them or how much we were willing to go out of our way to make it happen.

Permits, on our level of filmmaking, you might as well consider them non-existent.

At least around here where Dj and I live.

LC

That type of $hit is what really pisses me off. But you know, editing programs are the same, really. It is kind of hard for a low to no film budget to afford a $1000 edit software program, so why the f**k charge that much? Especially for a turd of a program that crashes every f**king time you try and use it.

The program I am referring to? Adobe Premiere Pro. And once those f**kwads decided to fix the bugs in it (referring to the first release of Pro), they charged $150 for an upgrade! WTF?!! :mad:

How did I afford it and why did I use it? I can't say and it was the only thing next to iMovie that I had at the time. iMovie pissed me off and lost a year's worth of timeline on my last movie and that resulted in me abandoning Apple and buying a Sony Viao instead.

I hope to use Vegas soon, a new prog to learn, but it has been a year or so from using Adobe Pro and I can't remember much upon using it anyway.

As for the permits? Stupid. F**k them, I'd film guerilla as well or film out in the country.

I wanted to film Columbus Ohio's skyscaper skyline from this really old two-lane road that was closed years ago due to them making the freeway I guess, but someone has been using it to park their damn semi trailer(s).

Oh well, maybe someday it will go and I can sneak it or film beside it like it is an abandoned semi sitting there?

:dead: Dawg

[MinionZombie]

That tripod rule sounds proper gheay (lol, as in stupid, snarf!) ... an amateur can use a tripod as well, ha!

What an odd rule...:rockbrow:

[Danny]

yeah, so if it hold my camcorder im auamtuer, but if i put it on a tripod that cost me a quid off ebay im suddenly what?, independant filmmaker instead?:rolleyes:

-LAME.:dead:

[DjfunkmasterG]

Lou's right I went through hell dealing with Baltimore City. I wanted to use an abandon fire house for the film, it was a sequence in the original script when Deadlands was a year after the outbreak, anyway, in order to se that fire house for 8 hours I would have needed 5 police officers at a cost of $120 per hour per officer. 2 paramedics at $55 per hour, A fire truck at a rental cost of $6500 per day, plus a minimum of 3 fire fighters at $100 per hour per fire fighter.

F*CK that. When I found out I called Lou and gave him the bad news and from there we just stole some shots in the city. The original intention was to get people in zombie make-up and take another trip around the city but we couldn't get that coordinated.

[coma]

That tripod rule sounds proper gheay (lol, as in stupid, snarf!) ... an amateur can use a tripod as well, ha!

What an odd rule...:rockbrow:
Better that you have to get a permit for everything? A tripod means you are there all day and a handheld means "moving on quickly". Comsidering you have to get a permit 100% of the time in most places I think its OK.
Not that I get permits anyway. F**k the police:D


yeah, so if it hold my camcorder im auamtuer, but if i put it on a tripod that cost me a quid off ebay im suddenly what?, independant filmmaker instead?:rolleyes:

-LAME.:dead:
Also, this is not some little burg. There are tons of people. If you block a sidewalk all day with a big ass set up you have to accomadate the pedestrians. I dont know whats the big deal.

[MinionZombie]

But not all tripods are massive deeleys, and if you're just getting a quick shot with a tripod, it's still a quick shot.

Mind you, I was filming in the city t'other day and I just went handheld and used the landscape/my leg/the ground (with the tripod quick release place attached to the bottom of the camera) to steady my shots and it worked quite well just to get some quick shots. Didn't get in anyone's way ... yeah a tripod would take up more space, but not necessarily that much, if it's just a normal and fairly simple tripod like...

Just depends ... although aren't the pavements in America pretty darn wide? I think ours here in the UK are like half the width ... but then again, our roads are half the width too! :eek:

Ach, anyway...