RIAA gets bitch-slapped by Oaklahoma mother

[LouCipherr]

God, I just loooove reading stories like these:


SOURCE (http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/RIAA-must-turn-over-billing-records-to-Oklahoma-mother.html)

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We all love the RIAA and their never ending attack on illegal music downloads. Of course when they make a mistake, they should have to pay too, right? It seems that they did it again when they persisted in their efforts to sue an Oklahoma mother and her daughter in 2004. We have reported on this case before and now the events have taken an interesting turn.

Most people just settle for a couple thousand dollars and call it a day, but Debbie Foster took the RIAA to court and insisted that they provide evidence of her downloads. Surprise....they couldn't find any proof of her piracy and being the nice guys that we all know they are, they offered to withdraw the case.

Debbie said they should pay her reasonable court costs and when she submitted her bills, the RIAA said her costs were too high. Ms. Foster responded with a request for the RIAA costs spent on the case, and the judge said, "Well if you think her fees are too much, show me yours."

This is where it gets interesting; if they are forced to comply then their costs to research a case will be public record. If they are high, Foster should win. If they are low, then it would indicate that they are not doing thorough discovery before they prosecute. Don't you just love it when these things turn out to be win-win?

:elol: Go get 'em, Deb!!

[MinionZombie]

hahahahaaaa! LOVE IT! :evil::elol:

The RIAA, like any other such organisation, need a good bitch slapping every now and then, they think they're a law unto themselves, well wakey wakey rise and shine, folks! :)

[DjfunkmasterG]

Just to clarify... The Judge did state they had to show their Legal fees. They have until March 26th to comply.

The original Article has a link to the judges decision on the matter including a scanned copy of his decision.

[LouCipherr]

Just to clarify... The Judge did state they had to show their Legal fees. They have until March 26th to comply.

Ahh, the proverbial icing on the cake. :D

[bassman]

The drummer for Metallica(Lars Ulrich, I think) should've been slapped back during that Napster B.S. Then again....all that ruckus just made it even easier to get stuff on the net.:cool:

[DjfunkmasterG]

Pirating hasn't died... People just aren't as vocal about it now. :shifty:

[bassman]

Pirating hasn't died... People just aren't as vocal about it now. :shifty:

I didn't say it had died. I know it's not dead:shifty: . I meant that it became more popular and quite easier after that Metallica jerk off whined like the little bitch that he is......

[capncnut]

Go get 'em, Deb!!
Good stuff. Lower the prices and we'll stop the downloadin'. :D

[MinionZombie]

I still buy CDs, not very often, only the stuff I know I will most definitely like/love, and I get them somewhere I can get them for a good price. Play.com is a great place, you can often get a brand new CD for like £8 or £9, which is pretty decent. Beats the piss out of £15 to £20 in the stores/specialist shops.

[LouCipherr]

I try and go see the bands I like live instead of buying the CD. It's sad, but it's all about ticket and merchandise sales for bands. They don't make jack off CD sales. Most of their income is from ticket sales and sold merchandise.

Sad but true. :(

Still, this is great. It's good to see someone finally stand up to the RIAA with their middle finger extended and say "PROVE IT" - and lo and behold, they couldn't.

Folks, you can't pay to see entertainment like this. :lol:


As far a pirating - the analogy I used most is "it's like trying to put a band-aid on cancer" ;) :D

[Danny]

once more ill say it again

"YARG!":elol:

[_liam_]

beautiful. this is the 2nd case of the RIAA getting pwned by someone they tried to sue for mp3s i've heard of this year...

[coma]

beautiful. this is the 2nd case of the RIAA getting pwned by someone they tried to sue for mp3s i've heard of this year...
Bootiful!
When the RIAA gets owned all thier lawyers on retainer should have to line up and touch your bag:p

[Danny]

^...woah, takes all sorts i 'spose:lol:


- hey cool, one year on the forum this month and my 5000th post, a do believe a mini woots in order *polish fake monacle whislt smoking a bubble pipe* :D

[MikePizzoff]

This is great news. Somebody needs to put an end to the spree these bastards are on.

[MinionZombie]

Same with the MPAA, they've no idea to the downloading culture whatsoever, a huge part of it, no doubt, will be the convenience and ease of it all. So try and harness that, move your product placement into the 21st century - just look at iTunes, that's insanely popular and people are BUYING music through that, the generally-download-dimwit masses are paying for choons on iChoons, and it's really only the dedicated nerdy downloaders who are still not hopping on board - and even then, those are the sort of folk who consume a lot of media, so they'll no doubt have a load of purchased items, it's just that they can't afford to buy everything - especially here in the UK where everything is too expensive and/or taxed out the ass by that complete and utter scumbag Darth Brown, who's no doubt gonna rape everyone's pockets again today...:mad:

[LouCipherr]

Agreed MZ. One thing I always point out though: iTunes is no better than buying a CD at the store - and actually, if you think about it, it's worse and it costs just as much!

Example: a cd with 15 songs on it, each song is .99 cents USD. The entire CD would cost $15 - no better in the store. PLUS, you don't get the shiny plastic CD, the cover art (well, you do in digitial format - the size of a postage stamp), and the files are in a lossy mp3 format. So the way I see it, even thought iTunes is doing on HELL of a business, they're no better than the damn record companies and stores. Not to mention, the RIAA is still looking to shut down iTunes, they just haven't figured out a way to do it yet 'cause iTunes is actually paying the artists, so they have no room to bitch.

When they can offer stuff online at the SAME QUALITY as that in the stores (including all the cover art, lyrics, etc that would be available from the store-bought CD) - even if it's the same price or only slightly less, that is when the 'boom' of online consumerism as far as movies & music will REALLY pick up. Until then, they're still trying to figure out the 'format' - and as of right now, iTunes is the only one that comes close - but still misses the mark slightly.

LC

[LouCipherr]

Woohoo - smacked in the face yet AGAIN!

SOURCE (http://techdirt.com/articles/20070320/171228.shtml)

RIAA University Campaign Sputters: Group Asked To Pay Up For Wasting School's Time

Lately, the RIAA has been on a high-profile campaign to get college students that the RIAA believes have been involved in illegal file trading to settle lawsuits against them at a "discount". As part of this strategy, the company has tried to enlist universities to help them identify and turn over the names of offending students. But it's heartening to see that some universities aren't spinelessly acquiescing to the RIAA's demands. The University of Wisconsin has told the RIAA that it has no obligation to rat its students out unless it's compelled to do so by a subpoena. Meanwhile, the University of Nebraska has told the RIAA that it can't help them identify many of the students accused of file trading. The school's system changes a computer's IP address each time its turned on, and it only keeps this information for month. After that month, the school has no way of associating an IP address with a computer or its user. The RIAA is angry about this, and a spokesman for the group criticized the university for not understanding "the need to retain these records". This is a ridiculous complaint. The university doesn't have a need to retain these records, and there's no reason it should do so out of some obligation to the RIAA. If there were any doubt that the university is really irritated by the RIAA's requests, it has requested that the RIAA pay the university to reimburse its expenses from dealing with this (good luck with that). If all of this back and forth sounds familiar, it's because it very closely resembles what happened a few years ago when the RIAA tried getting ISPs to share data on their users. Fortunately, the ISPs stood up for their users and told the RIAA to get lost. It's too bad the group didn't seem to learn its lesson.


:D

[MinionZombie]

:lol:

ROFLPWNED!!! LUSH! :cool:

Isn't it great when a self-important group takes a pounding? :)