Another blow to sanity in the UK

[erisi236]

Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770)

Umm, guys, what the Hell is going on over there? :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Eyebiter]

No kidding, isn't it about time to stop scraping and bowing to Islam?

[Tricky]

What the hell???this government sickens me!its rotten to the core,and why are we fighting radical islam abroad and appeasing it over here?holocaust denial is illegal in germany,the place that knows damn well that it happened,so why encourage holocaust denial over here?
One can only hope that children of the future have enough about them to read books or watch documentarys outside of school seen as the important things they should know about are censored.We learned about the holocaust at school,we had to do a study on it and watch the film "escape from sobibor".

[Terran]

That is pretty bizarre

[_liam_]

What the hell???this government sickens me!its rotten to the core,and why are we fighting radical islam abroad and appeasing it over here?holocaust denial is illegal in germany,the place that knows damn well that it happened,so why encourage holocaust denial over here?
One can only hope that children of the future have enough about them to read books or watch documentarys outside of school seen as the important things they should know about are censored.We learned about the holocaust at school,we had to do a study on it and watch the film "escape from sobibor".

mate i know you love to bash the government, but if you read the article;



Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

it's not the government, its the schools themselves who are omitting it.the government is the one who's blown the whistle on this.

holocaust denial is illegal here also i think.

this is pretty ridiculous, the holocaust is an integral part of the history of the 20th century...

[Tricky]

What teachers would fear upsetting muslim pupils by teaching about that though apart from some idiotic 60's hippy throwback?it happened!its not some fairy tale that can be swept away.And as for the muslims who "might get upset" f*ck 'em in the ear,those lot helped hitler murder the jews anyway :mad:
http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/jerusalem/mufti.gif
http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista01/graf/picrev/ha02.jpg
http://www.savekosovo.org/articleimages/nasilje-1.jpg

[coma]

Next thing you' know you have scools teaching Creation as science so all the Bible thumpers will feel included and have warning on book covers that Evolution is just a theory.:rolleyes:

[_liam_]

IBM helped hitler murder the jews too...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40981000/jpg/_40981859_cooking.jpg

wow, this kinda sh!t is easy to stir!

[MinionZombie]

*ug* I heard about this sh*t too, absolutely sickening.

And Liam, while it's the schools doing it seemingly off their own backs, the obsessiveness over political correctness is the result of Labour's insane love of it.

As holocaust denial is illegal, it MUST be taught, because not teaching it, is essentially denying it.


students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

Then they're f*cking retards, because it BLATANTLY HAPPENED. There is STACKS AND STACKS of evidence that it happened, including people who were there who are still alive, it's so intensely documented that denying it is like pointing at the grass and saying it's black and made from Jodie Marsh's nasal hair - ABSOLUTELY RETARDED.

A religious 'belief' (how is being a holocaust denier a properly religious matter? :rockbrow:) should have absolutely no influence over what is taught. Schools in America are/were winning out against the whole Creationism thing, why should this be happening? Slightly different features to both arguments, but essentially the comparison is there.

It's funny, when I was in high school, all we ever did in history was either The Tudors or WW1/WW2 and the intervening years ... oh, and bloody Calvinism :mad:...

Although if I read the original article in the Daily Mail correctly, this is a decision by some, made with absolutely no consulting with the Muslim community whatsoever, i.e. yet more of the chattering nob'eads assuming shiite, well F*CK OFF AND TEACH ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE 20TH CENTURY!!!

I'd really like to hear the opinions of actual Muslims in this matter, rather than the anal-retentive fiddling of a bunch of red-tape-minded Red Voters ... scumbags ... makes me sick to the stomach.

Essentially, with this crowd, it's censorship through taxation, or censorship through 'political correctness'.

Long live political incorrectness I say. I'm all for equal rights for women and gays and black people and all the things that political correctness was originally intended to serve, but all this "down with ba ba black sheep/ooh, the Holocaust might offend Muslims but we didn't ask them at all before we made some sense-raping decision" is to the disservice of the entire country, if not the entire world.

[Danny]

what are the odd's not one muslim guy or woman actually had any say in this, if i was a muslim guy going to school the next day and the techer said that out loud, boy id wanna just hide in a corner or something, i dont see what the big deal is with offending muslims, we are allowed to say what we think, regardless of race, religion or anything else, i aint telling any muslim dudes what to believe so i dont think it should compensate for the other way round either.

next up labour will probably stick there fingers in the ears and hum loudly when someone mentions 9/11:rolleyes:

[MinionZombie]

next up labour will probably stick there fingers in the ears and hum loudly when someone mentions 9/11

You know ... I wouldn't be surprised if they did...a long shot, but nonetheless ... I wouldn't be surprised.

Totally, as far as I know, this decision was made without consulting any Muslims...surely that's the very definition of retarded? There's been other 'sensitive censorship' going on all to do with [silly voice on]not wanting to offend Muslims[silly voice off] ... and I remember on one issue a Muslim group leader or somebody actually said they weren't involved in the decision at all, and wouldn't have demanded whatever it was be banned/censored/whatever - so it's just a bunch of PC-obsessed red-voting white lunatics who've been to one too many sensitivity seminars...:rolleyes:

Such pussy footing will be the death of all of us, I tell thee...

[_liam_]

And Liam, while it's the schools doing it seemingly off their own backs, the obsessiveness over political correctness is the result of Labour's insane love of it.


lol, labour have nothing to do with it, but it's still their fault.
the PC fad kicked off in the late eighties/early nineties, when the tories were in power and new labour didn't even exist.

if labour were for this, they would have kept the results of the study they instigated quiet.

labour may be part of the pc thuggery (although cameron with his "hug a hoodie" nonsense is just as bad), but if you think their policies are brimming with respect for muslims and their ways, i'd think again

[MinionZombie]

Re-read my statement, if Labour breed a culture of PC-obsessiveness, it's only going to filter down into other aspects of society, ergo, they're the source.

Also, like I said, the original intent of political correctness when it was started, was justified and good, and has brought about worthwhile change - such as women being equal to men and so on...it's still being worked out as the old farts who never believed such things die out, and the new breed of people take their places.

Also, "hug a hoody" was the tabloid dumbing down and slogan-poking version of the original intent. The original intent was, basically, "understand your enemy", which is a very mature and worthwhile route to follow. If you don't understand the "problem", how are you ever going to deal with it? "Hug a hoody" was a bunch of tabloid back-chat, therefore, the message of understanding the issue has been lost...typical.

Labour can't keep jack shiite quiet, and even if they did, someone else would find out whatever they're hiding ... but then again, all parties across the entire world are the same, there's always palms to be greased as a thank you for acquiring inside information.

With political correctness, Labour have taken a good idea, as usual, and f*cked it up and taken it so far beyond the original intent that it's become more of a hindrance than a help.

[capncnut]

We should have a new forum called the Blair Bitch Project. Don't make me put him in my avatar now. :elol:

[_liam_]

Re-read my statement, if Labour breed a culture of PC-obsessiveness, it's only going to filter down into other aspects of society, ergo, they're the source.

Also, like I said, the original intent of political correctness when it was started, was justified and good, and has brought about worthwhile change - such as women being equal to men and so on...it's still being worked out as the old farts who never believed such things die out, and the new breed of people take their places.

Also, "hug a hoody" was the tabloid dumbing down and slogan-poking version of the original intent. The original intent was, basically, "understand your enemy", which is a very mature and worthwhile route to follow. If you don't understand the "problem", how are you ever going to deal with it? "Hug a hoody" was a bunch of tabloid back-chat, therefore, the message of understanding the issue has been lost...typical.

Labour can't keep jack shiite quiet, and even if they did, someone else would find out whatever they're hiding ... but then again, all parties across the entire world are the same, there's always palms to be greased as a thank you for acquiring inside information.

With political correctness, Labour have taken a good idea, as usual, and f*cked it up and taken it so far beyond the original intent that it's become more of a hindrance than a help.

indeed, well you think political correctness only spiralled out of control once new labour were in power, but you don't really back it up, it's just rhetoric - labour breed a culture of pc obsessiveness ergo, theyre the source and all that, well, how do they breed it?

i think you'll find the bias of the largely left wing, middle class british media bred it, and despite what you may like to think, the government does not have that much control over the output of the media - indeed, the media has more sway over what the government does in a perverse sort of way.

things such as the black population of britain being given more rights & the waves of immigrants in the 50s and 60s have pushed our society towards a tendency to become more accepting & sensitive to minorities and certain sensitivities.

being tolerant, accepting and sensitive towards those who are not like you has become a desirable trait, and rightly so.

however, as with all social trends, some people take it too far, and the eventual extension of this culture of acceptance is the silly degrees of political correctness you sometimes find in today's society.

while new labour have, since 1997, fostered an environment which often panders to these irrational sensibilities, to lay the blame for PC thuggery solely or largely at their door is unreasonable, as political correctness was spinning out of control long before 1997, with police having ridiculous vocabulary guidelines in the early to mid nineties & the like.

pop bands were writing songs like this in 1994
http://www.absolutelyrics.com/lyrics/view/manic_street_preachers/p.c.p./

here's an article from 1993 showing that PCness had become an issue to the point where there were anti PC movements on both sides of the pond

http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj61/molyneux.htm

i'm not saying labour don't fan the flames, so to speak, but saying they are largely the reason for it's spread is simply not true, it's almost propagandist rhetoric given your pronounced anti labour stance & lack of citational evidence, yknow?

[Danny]

We should have a new forum called the Blair Bitch Project. Don't make me put him in my avatar now. :elol:

ii can think up at least 4 funny deadringers skits from that post, anyone think up more?

[Tricky]

They didnt start it,but its got a hell of a lot worse on their watch,as has the whole country,they certainly havent taken measures to improve life in Britain.

[capncnut]

<stretches arms>

[Danny]

^ someones been hitting the drinky-drinky cus i have no idea what you mean.

[capncnut]

You know me too well Hellz. :sneaky:

[Neil]

This is so rediculous I can't believe it!

[MinionZombie]

And also - wtf are they gonna teach in schools without the holocaust?! It's the backbone of GCSE history!!! :eek:

[_liam_]

indeed.

"ww2 was started by the nazis,who were fascists with extreme racial hygiene policies"

"racial hygiene? that's horrific, how far did they take it?

"er.pretty far"

"how far?"

"...ssh"

[MinionZombie]

"shhh...? wtf you talkin' 'bout teach?!"

"shaddup, I'll get anally raped by the PC brigade and all the Muslims I presume want to tear me a new one!"

"wtf you on about? Muslims?!"

"yeah!"

"we don't have any in this school!"

"so, it's been agreed!"

"by who?"

"a bunch of PC-obsessed lunatics who think "ba ba black sheep" is a racist nursery rhyme, because despite the fact that black-wool sheep blatantly exist, they're only a creation of the racist white-wool sheep as something to hate on"

"are you smoking crack, teach?"

"of course I am, how else could I possibly get through a day of teaching you bunch of shiiteheads with all this bollocks we have to deal with in schools these days?!"

"woteva, is my fave bovvered?!"

"DOWN WITH CATHERINE TATE!!! I BLAME HER FOR EVERYTHING!!!"

"surely the Reds destroying education systematically beyond redemption over the last 10 years has caused a backlash amongst students who are now so jaded and lost in the system that they now resort to reliving what they watched on TV the other day as they have nothing better to do in schools now? Catherine Tate didn't invent the A/S Level, you know! Nor did she get rid of streaming!"

"how the hell did you come up with such an astute comment? you're supposed to be a dribbling moron who re-enacts what you see on tv/movies/videogames ... surely you should be out having sex with prostitutes before killing them to reclaim your cash?!"

"I watch TV and learn everything necessary to progress in life from there!"

"oh bugger it, I'm giving up this teaching lark to write vampiric porn fiction!"

:lol: