bassman
03-May-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm pretty sure that EVERYONE here has seen "Batman Begins", but if you live under a rock and haven't seen it, it would probably be in your best interest to stop reading now.
The main villian of the movie is Ra's Al Ghul, right? Well, after reading some arguing on the IMDB boards and asking some buddies about it......there must be some confusion about the character. I feel that I'm right, but when there's a lot of people saying differently I start to second guess myself. I figured maybe some of you guys could help clear it up.
Okay, so Bruce Wayne was found in jail by Henry Ducard(Liam Neeson) and taken to Ra's Al Ghul's(Ken Watanabe) temple to be trained and eventually become a member of the League of Shadows. When asked to decapitate a man, Wayne refuses, starts a fire, Ra's Al Ghul dies from falling timbers, and Ducard is saved.
Then at Bruce Wayne's birthday party, a lady introduces him to a man named Ra's Al Ghul. When the man turns around, it isn't the same man. Wayne says something about "I watched Ra's Al Ghul die". Then from behind, Ducard says "But is Ra's Al Ghul immortal?".
This is where the real question lies. People think that Ra's is some immortal spirit that lives on in different bodies and they will argue this to the death. The clincher is that right after Ducard's "immortal" line.....Bruce Wayne clearly says something along the lines of "So you use cheap parlor tricks to conceil your identity, Ra's"(looking at Ducard).
Meaning that Ducard was always Ra's Al Ghul and just used someone else to double for him, right? I've had many different people argue with me that Ra's is some spirit that can't be killed and all this ridiculous sh*t. Ducard(Liam Neeson) IS Ra's Al Ghul, RIGHT???
The main villian of the movie is Ra's Al Ghul, right? Well, after reading some arguing on the IMDB boards and asking some buddies about it......there must be some confusion about the character. I feel that I'm right, but when there's a lot of people saying differently I start to second guess myself. I figured maybe some of you guys could help clear it up.
Okay, so Bruce Wayne was found in jail by Henry Ducard(Liam Neeson) and taken to Ra's Al Ghul's(Ken Watanabe) temple to be trained and eventually become a member of the League of Shadows. When asked to decapitate a man, Wayne refuses, starts a fire, Ra's Al Ghul dies from falling timbers, and Ducard is saved.
Then at Bruce Wayne's birthday party, a lady introduces him to a man named Ra's Al Ghul. When the man turns around, it isn't the same man. Wayne says something about "I watched Ra's Al Ghul die". Then from behind, Ducard says "But is Ra's Al Ghul immortal?".
This is where the real question lies. People think that Ra's is some immortal spirit that lives on in different bodies and they will argue this to the death. The clincher is that right after Ducard's "immortal" line.....Bruce Wayne clearly says something along the lines of "So you use cheap parlor tricks to conceil your identity, Ra's"(looking at Ducard).
Meaning that Ducard was always Ra's Al Ghul and just used someone else to double for him, right? I've had many different people argue with me that Ra's is some spirit that can't be killed and all this ridiculous sh*t. Ducard(Liam Neeson) IS Ra's Al Ghul, RIGHT???