What is the general Opinion of Americans in the UK?

[DVW5150]

I have had several friends who were British.My former band , "Interval" was produced my Youth Martin, who was the founding bassist in Killing Joke, back in 1987.I have gotten along fairly well with members of this site who are British .
The war based on lies, seems to have painted that Americans are neurotic, fascist idiots, and are willing to destroy, indescriminately , anyone we disagree with.
In England you have had your share of terrorist attacks too.
I know that America would not be what it is today if we didnt have British blood, I have traced my family back to an area of Hull England, in the early 1600s.
I had a great friend from London down in Florida, who ended up introducing me to most of the friends I had in Florida.
I know that British soldiers, are spot on great people.
I am interested in a no holds barred opinion of us here in the US, by all members in the UK; what do you think of Americans, not our bloody stupid administration, but the people ?

[fartpants]

i have never met one personally, but our media paints a picture of fat , gun-obssessed, racist bigots ( totally NOT my opinion but one put forward by the press) also our prime minister trying to crawl up Bush ass at the slightest chance also tends to make most british people resent you rather than the spineless **** in power over here. BUT all the yanks that are on this forum are pretty cool..

[Tricky]

I work in hull bud,where they in fishing or dockworkers?plenty of both in that area!
some people have a very negative view of Americans over here,while others only have a negative view of certain types of americans & plenty still think your mostly sound!Theres plenty to dislike about English people as well so dont be disheartened by what some peoples opinions are.We're not all stupid enough to stereotype you all :) But i will say that the days when everything that came out of america were thought of as cool are gone,when i was a kid it seemed like the US had the best of everything from Music & TV shows to cars etc,but it doesnt seem the case now,unless thats just my opionion because im older

[Cody]

I kinda figured alot of english disliked americans.

hey what do you guys think about red necks?

[Debbieangel]

I have made alot very good British friends here on HpotD and USA friends as well!
As I am one of the older people on here in my time I have seen alot of British influence here in America. Just look at our music, especially the 60's through 80's...Big influence alot of good bands came over from Britain. I am talking from my era when I was younger kids ;)....I can't talk too much now because I don't listen to music from now a days to much..sorry I dont get into rap and the like...not knocking it but not my cup of tea.
Actually, I dont look as the people here as Brits and USA I look as us all people that have a common love for the zombie genre.
We are just friends getting together talking about zombies!!;)

[acealive1]

i have friends in the UK,and some of the ideas against us is for one,they all think we voted for bush and they think we're very rude..... i didnt vote for bush and im not a rude person. i hope that helps.

[MissJacksonCA]

When my boyfriend was stationed in London he said the attitudes towards Americans were like we were the scum of the Earth and that we shouldn't be in their country. He actually said he couldn't wear his uniform or any American emblems to work because some people would spit on him. The only place he felt 'safe' was at the Texas Embassy which was some kind of restaurant I figure. From people i've been friends with from Britain the overall opinion seems to be that we're ignorant, gun crazy, and generally obese people. I dont think they're wrong but i'd like to know how they are over the pond.

[MinionZombie]

The sort of Brits who spit on Americans and think of them as scum, are themselves - SCUM, or students trying to look good in front of the hippy chicks to try and get into their hemp undies...:rolleyes:

It's a bit rich, because Britain is as despised as America these days, just look at the tactical voting in Eurovision - but everybody's all too pleased to accept out money, services and help - just like when it comes from America - but then they poke us in the eye afterwards, so really America and Britain are in the same boat these days.

Likewise, Britain and America both have morons in charge, there's also plenty of nobheads in the UK and the USA, but there's also a lot of really nice people in both countries and all the in-betweens.

I personally like America in general, but I don't like many things about the country/gubment (but then again I despise many things to do with Britsh government, as we all know by now, haha!)

Anyway, it's all about the individual, I've met some downright wankerish Americans online, but also some really cool Americans, really friendly and normal folk, same on both ends for Brits and other folk. It's all about the individual, rather than the representative nation, people who judge so stereotypically and closed-mindedly deserve nothing short of neutering.

[Chic Freak]

The only difference I've noticed that I can generalise from the (few) American people I've met (as in in the real world, not online) is that they seem much friendlier and WAY more polite than the average Brit!

I don't know if maybe it's because I've only met Americans outside of America, and maybe you're always on your best behaviour when you're not on home ground, but the stereotype of Americans as being rude seems completely unfounded to me. Either that, or British people are just so unbelievably rude that they make everyone else look good by comparison :lol: I could believe that. I think the stereotype of british people as being uber-reserved and obsessed with good manners and etiquette is about as far from the truth as you can get (in GENERAL of course); either that or it's just very outdated and I'm too young to remember a time when people weren't rude bastards.

Do you think Americans might be the new old-school Brits in terms of etiquette, Christianity and shyness regarding sex?? I seem to remember one American guy I was talking to saying that sex seemed more of an embarassing/ intimate subject among his mates (and gf) in the US, or at least that it wasn't talked about and treated as casually as it is over here. I have no idea if this is generally the case or whether he just hung out with prudes back home.

What a long post! Any thoughts? :)

[MinionZombie]

So I guess we're kind of switching social roles these days eh?

I will agree that sex is generally treated quite frankly here in the UK, well not necessarily by parents who are still very shy about it all (although my mum was very involved in helping me with biology homework/revision in Year 7 when we did the sex unit - which I scored a perfect 25/25 on - haha, see what captures my attention, eh? :lol:)

Anyway, I switched on the TV this morning at about 10:30am or something on Channel 4, and it was a show about teenage girls discussing ... *wait for it, any shy American folk out there* ... orgasms and masturbation.

I'm not kidding, it took me by surprise, but then again a few years back I turned on BBC2 in the morning (I'm talking "This Morning" zone) and there was an entire family prancing around their house stark bollock/fanny naked, including their feckin' child! :eek:

There were all these low angle shots of dangly boobs and saggy balls, hahaha ... that show always stuck in my head ... and speaking of nudity on TV, that bottled water advert with a shedload of naked babies syncho-swimming was just on (with their 'tachty-bits' given the Ken & Barbie CGI treatment thankfully).

Where were we again? :lol:

[Danny]

well techincally america IS the fattest country in the world, though i think it IS officially like 40% texas' fault. but hey they love there beef so wadd'ya gonna do.
my view is the same as england, theres a minority of people with individual tastes and views and the majority are white trash retards, same there, same here.
and waht do i think of hillbillys?, sheer comic entertainement.:lol:

[Khardis]

The correct answer is "who gives a damn?"

[CornishCorpse]

Mhm opinion is mixed from where I stand..Ive met alot of bastard americans online and offline so as everyone has said its down to the indivdual. Although the stereotype is pretty much the obese, gun toting, fundamental christian type and alot of jokes are made by college lecturers ( "We the un-accountably posh people who are college lecturers" anyone want to catch the quotage?")

Its not a good stereotype but hey it lurks like all of them, how many have I heard "GO DRINK SOME TEA!" While playing online :mad: oiy

Rednecks? We have our own rednecks down here in good ole Cornwall but we call em hillbillies,yokels or at least I do. Seems similair to a redneck: works on a farm, inbred, slow talking, owns a shotgun, looked down upon the nation, evolutionary throwback?

Once again another useless stereotype except for in the case of camborne where all the rumors are true.

[Khardis]

The only difference I've noticed that I can generalise from the (few) American people I've met (as in in the real world, not online) is that they seem much friendlier and WAY more polite than the average Brit!

I don't know if maybe it's because I've only met Americans outside of America, and maybe you're always on your best behaviour when you're not on home ground, but the stereotype of Americans as being rude seems completely unfounded to me. Either that, or British people are just so unbelievably rude that they make everyone else look good by comparison :lol: I could believe that. I think the stereotype of british people as being uber-reserved and obsessed with good manners and etiquette is about as far from the truth as you can get (in GENERAL of course); either that or it's just very outdated and I'm too young to remember a time when people weren't rude bastards.

Do you think Americans might be the new old-school Brits in terms of etiquette, Christianity and shyness regarding sex?? I seem to remember one American guy I was talking to saying that sex seemed more of an embarassing/ intimate subject among his mates (and gf) in the US, or at least that it wasn't talked about and treated as casually as it is over here. I have no idea if this is generally the case or whether he just hung out with prudes back home.

What a long post! Any thoughts? :)

Depends on which Americans you meet I guess... Most New Englanders (Myself included) as elitist asses, who look down on anyone and everyone outside of Connecticut, Massachusetts or Rhode Island. I am still struggling with not labeling anyone outside of CT a redneck, its hard, but I am getting there. New Englanders also tend to be the "rude" Americans. Or so I am told.

[Marie]

I'm not kidding, it took me by surprise, but then again a few years back I turned on BBC2 in the morning (I'm talking "This Morning" zone) and there was an entire family prancing around their house stark bollock/fanny naked, including their feckin' child! :eek:

Nothing wrong with that, I grew up in a naturist home.:p Why it's on T.V. is beyond me though.

Any pointers from the masturbation show I should know about?:D

M_

[Cody]

well im sure your not gonna leave your country and lets say go to egpyt and say egyptians suck. its just common sense.

just to add something. the only time I meet or hear people from another country are on the xbox. some americans can be idiots to the english by saying stuff about the war in the 1700s. I dont have a problem with anyone from any country. its just the way the culture is.

[kortick]

ha ha khardis

being from RI you are right

as far as what english people think of americans

i am not worried about that

i am worried about what this country is becoming with all the illegal immigrants

it would be impossible for a british person to judge an american
when more and more of them speak other languages than english?

question: in england when you call a business does an automated answering machine come on and say " for english press 1" for spanish press 2, for a menu of other languages press 3. this is the norm when you call any place here

[MissJacksonCA]

I think we have illegals here pursuing the American dream who would prolly become Americans if they thought they were able to ... so in a way they're Americans. They're also Americans because they're a great deal of the people who've been building this country and picking the crops that feed this countrys legal citizens. America today wouldn't be half of what it is without them. As far as i'm concerned they're honorary citizens and thus... could be part of the question... what do brits think of us?

[Khardis]

I think we have illegals here pursuing the American dream who would prolly become Americans if they thought they were able to ... so in a way they're Americans. They're also Americans because they're a great deal of the people who've been building this country and picking the crops that feed this countrys legal citizens. America today wouldn't be half of what it is without them. As far as i'm concerned they're honorary citizens and thus... could be part of the question... what do brits think of us?

I disagree, in fact I think America would be 100X better off without them, since the costs of medical care etc in the west would go down what without the millions upon millions of illegal aliens using it up for free, that real citizens get to pay for. You telling me we cant find Americans to do farm work and construction? I say we can, they're just being rubbed out of the job market because they refuse to work for slave wages.

Now unless you dont mind us reducing our standard of living to that of Mexico and Mexicans (10 to a room, 1 bathroom, no flushing etc) then we can do it easy.

[MissJacksonCA]

Rising medical costs aren't entirely due to illegals taking advantage of any free healthcare. Its because doctors and hospitals charge obscene rates for their services and products they give to you. For instance charging 25 dollars for two Tylenol pills. I could supply my own for 50 cents if it was legal to undercut the hospitals. It may be... I may just pursue that.

Unfortunately we also pay higher insurance costs to support illegals when they crash into our cars and run from the scene. I had a friend die that way and another friend had her car totaled in a similar incident.

But illegals save us money when they construct homes and pick fruits and veggies. Farmers can't always pay minimum wage to their employees without going for broke themselves. The farming industry isn't exectly one known for good money. And also the working conditions on farms for those illegals isn't exactly grand either. They're spending 8 to 10 hours a day in the sun in sweltering heat to give us food that's expensive anyway. I dont even think a lot of Americans would reduce themselves to that kind of work without top dollar pay. Its like cotton picking. Ever tried it? Its not pleasant. And home prices in this country in some places are obscene. If I could pay my bilingual builder less and have him use illegal labor heck i'd be all for it.

I dont think we're going to turn into Mexico just by letting in some illegals. But they keep this country growing. I'm not trying to get everyone to endorse them but just to say... I understand. Heck I dont like my homeland being overpopulated by people but my family is from another country so I at least have to appreciate other people who come here to seek a better life. Granted there's no huge diff between Canada and the U.S. but still... I just think its important to appreciate certain things like illegals even if we dont want them here...

Our country has to find an alternate solution to the illegal population besides killing them... imprisoning them... sending them back to Mexico (anyone watch that show on the MS 13 gang?)... or building a wall to keep them out. We should be focusing some effort on liberating Mexico or something... of making that a better place for its citizens to live to keep them from wanting to come here and to live here.

I'm just throwing ideas out there kids it beats just complaining about how ya hate 'em or dont want 'em.

[Khardis]

Rising medical costs aren't entirely due to illegals taking advantage of any free healthcare. Its because doctors and hospitals charge obscene rates for their services and products they give to you. For instance charging 25 dollars for two Tylenol pills. I could supply my own for 50 cents if it was legal to undercut the hospitals. It may be... I may just pursue that.

Unfortunately we also pay higher insurance costs to support illegals when they crash into our cars and run from the scene. I had a friend die that way and another friend had her car totaled in a similar incident.

But illegals save us money when they construct homes and pick fruits and veggies. Farmers can't always pay minimum wage to their employees without going for broke themselves. The farming industry isn't exectly one known for good money. And also the working conditions on farms for those illegals isn't exactly grand either. They're spending 8 to 10 hours a day in the sun in sweltering heat to give us food that's expensive anyway. I dont even think a lot of Americans would reduce themselves to that kind of work without top dollar pay. Its like cotton picking. Ever tried it? Its not pleasant. And home prices in this country in some places are obscene. If I could pay my bilingual builder less and have him use illegal labor heck i'd be all for it.

I dont think we're going to turn into Mexico just by letting in some illegals. But they keep this country growing. I'm not trying to get everyone to endorse them but just to say... I understand. Heck I dont like my homeland being overpopulated by people but my family is from another country so I at least have to appreciate other people who come here to seek a better life. Granted there's no huge diff between Canada and the U.S. but still... I just think its important to appreciate certain things like illegals even if we dont want them here...

Our country has to find an alternate solution to the illegal population besides killing them... imprisoning them... sending them back to Mexico (anyone watch that show on the MS 13 gang?)... or building a wall to keep them out. We should be focusing some effort on liberating Mexico or something... of making that a better place for its citizens to live to keep them from wanting to come here and to live here.

I'm just throwing ideas out there kids it beats just complaining about how ya hate 'em or dont want 'em.

If a farmer cannot do business legally then he needs to go out of business so someone else can buy out his land and do it legally. We need to stop subsidizing all this failure and let these people just fail. I dont buy it for 1 second that all the farms would close down if they had to pay minimum wage to their workers. I don't understand what that even has to do with anything anyway. So they cant do business legally and exist, so we should just let them do it illegally? I wish drug dealers could say that, then I could buy cheap pot. If I have to pay 5 dollars for a package of tomatoes instead of 2 dollars I accept that, ill probably still be saving more money because my taxes, healthcare, and insurance will be cheaper.

[Cody]

khardis I was just looking at your profile and your into mycology? cool man :) random I know.

[Chic Freak]

Depends on which Americans you meet I guess... Most New Englanders (Myself included) as elitist asses, who look down on anyone and everyone outside of Connecticut, Massachusetts or Rhode Island. I am still struggling with not labeling anyone outside of CT a redneck, its hard, but I am getting there.

Fair play to you for admitting that. Hardly anyone will openly admit they are prejudiced and that they are trying to improve. So kudos to you :)


Nothing wrong with that, I grew up in a naturist home.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that I had a naturist upbringing, but it was certainly okay to be nude when I was a kid (at home!). I certainly spent most of my summers before I was about 7 with nothing on but a pair of socks and shoes. I think it's good to avoid shyness and embarassment about bodies etc.


they're just being rubbed out of the job market because they refuse to work for slave wages.

Couldn't this problem be solved by paying everyone the same?

[DVW5150]

ha ha khardis

being from RI you are right

as far as what english people think of americans

i am not worried about that

i am worried about what this country is becoming with all the illegal immigrants

it would be impossible for a british person to judge an american
when more and more of them speak other languages than english?

question: in england when you call a business does an automated answering machine come on and say " for english press 1" for spanish press 2, for a menu of other languages press 3. this is the norm when you call any place here

Great, now its an immigration thread, press 1 for self-destruct.:lol:
One solution : legalize pot. Now its a pot thread.
Two solutions: press 1 for legal weed, press 2 for the nearest bakery.
Press 3 if you would like to know what British people think about Americans.
Press 4 if you have been bitten by a zed...

[Danny]

how ironic is it that people who live in america now bitch about other people immigrating there?, i bet the people of native american descernt are getting a feeling of deja-vu':sneaky:

[MinionZombie]

how ironic is it that people who live in america now bitch about other people immigrating there?, i bet the people of native american descernt are getting a feeling of deja-vu':sneaky:
lol, I know, it's a major case of the ironies. :D:p

[DVW5150]

how ironic is it that people who live in america now bitch about other people immigrating there?, i bet the people of native american descent are getting a feeling of deja-vu':sneaky:
I once heard a saying,"America is the best country thats ever been stolen."

If you visit Ellis Island in NY Harbor, you get a true sense that this country has been made up of all types of races.

I was brought up around musicians & artists.My mum sang jazz gigs and ex-step dad (still rather famous in NY) plays jazz piano in NYC. So with that upbringing was instilled an acceptance of people of who they are as an individual.
My high school was filled with racist swine, not just your regular Lynard Skynrd crowd, kkk wanna beees.
I went to high school with Fredricka Worthington, presently a news anchor on CNN, she and I barely ever spoke back in 11th grade.
Once , I came out to have a smoke(they had smoking lounges back then), and she was being messed with by a bunch of sexually-repressed-football hooligan-redneck-thowback cowards. I stood up to them (I think there was 4 of them),and they beat the sh!t outta me , but they left Fredricka alone & that was ok by me.
Her mum baked me a cake, Fredricka & I never became really good friends after that, but she was really greatful I stepped up to help her.
Lesson, sometimes the right thing to do is not always the easiest thing to do.
Even if your reward is just a thank you.

The following year, I was challenged by the leader of the 'little gang' to chicken ( drive at eachother head on, the one that doesnt turn away wins) . I had a 76 Grand Torino with a shift kit and I think it was a 424 in there... Anyway, the guy started at me , me the same. I just drove at him. With a solid knowledge that his Ford truck was not going to kiss my front end, he swerved at the last second , hitting a fence going into a drainage ditch.I kept going, went home.I owe my determination in that incident to a fictional character, MAX.

Btw, my Torino was painted flat black, and was a rather simular black car mock up. Wrecked on New Years eve 1982, in a patch of black ice I missed, totaled wrapped around a tree. I was listening to "Breaking the Law" by Judas Priest. That song always reminds me of that. All I got was a broken ankle.

The next monday , nobody was mean to me , even seniors were cool and wanted to be my friend. The guy that challenged me was ok,(still a douchebag) his truck was totaled.But I stayed to my self, but made a few new friends.When I was a senior, I was really friendly to sophmores because its a scary thing to be in a big place with so much social cruelty.

My point is , I was not brought up to hate irrationally .Because Fredricka was a black girl, they thought they could f*ck with her, I wont stand for that sht.

Are schools in the UK so cruel?

[Chic Freak]

I don't know. I went to quite a posh school so it was all talk, I never really saw any proper fights at school or anything. The social hierarchy was grotesque and the people were ignorant and mean, but I never felt like I was in any real danger.

[kortick]

i dont care who lives here and who doesnt

just learn the language

i am sick of people coming up to me cuz i have dark
hair and dark eyes and automatically speaking to me in spanish
or whatever language it is

you want to come to america-fine welcome
learn to communicate with the rest of the country

and how can english people judge americans
when the country is not what it was demographically
even 10 years ago?

its like asking them to tell you how a soda tastes
that isnt even made anymore

[Danny]

so everyone in america is under 10 years old?, people remember man, for good or ill people remember.

[Khardis]

khardis I was just looking at your profile and your into mycology? cool man :) random I know.

Haha... yeah. For uh.. non-illegal ones... uhh.... yeah... i plead the 5th.


how ironic is it that people who live in america now bitch about other people immigrating there?, i bet the people of native american descernt are getting a feeling of deja-vu':sneaky:

No, we are bitching about people illegally immigrating here.


i dont care who lives here and who doesnt

just learn the language

i am sick of people coming up to me cuz i have dark
hair and dark eyes and automatically speaking to me in spanish
or whatever language it is

you want to come to america-fine welcome
learn to communicate with the rest of the country

and how can english people judge americans
when the country is not what it was demographically
even 10 years ago?

its like asking them to tell you how a soda tastes
that isnt even made anymore

No the real irony is that the English people judge us, when it was actually THEM who were wiping out the native Americans here since the 1600s. We (Americans) didn't get into it until close to the 1800s. Remember before 1776, America was just an extension of England. All the slaughter of the Eastern Coast tribes happend under the British, Spanish and Dutch.

[MinionZombie]

I went to a pretty average comprehensive, it had a reputation in near-by Hereford as being a school where you had to carry a knife to survive a day, but ironically, that's what we thought of Hereford comprehensives! :lol:

Similar to you it was a lot of talk, not that much action. There would be fights, oh yeah, but nothing major. Physically bullying did go on, but it wasn't something loads of people would see. I was both verbally and physically bullied for the first 3 years, afterwards it was just stoic intimidation and sneering (the ring leader, last I heard, works in a girl's clothes shop - haha, dickhead)...

Anyway, I remember there was this massive rumour mill going on after apparently a student in Year 8 or something tried to jump out a first story window in some kind of suicide attempt, but was held back by pupils/teacher...that was related to bullying, and was quite f*cked up - which was the precise reaction of the majority of students from all years - "damn, that's messed up".

So aye, lots of talk and not much action...*chuckles*...I do remember giving a girl several years higher up than me some lip - I can't remember the reason for our crossed paths being bitter, but I do remember this bit:

I said something as I was heading towards class to her after she bitched at me (she was built like a brick sh*t house as I remember - a Year 10 or 11 to my short-arse Year 7 or 8) and she said "oh yeah, come and say that to my face" ... so I stopped, did an about turn, strutted right up to her, looked right up into her face and repeated it with a big grin...needless to say she was stumped for something to say, so I chortled off with my mates to class.

In the Sixth Form you got jip, which I was disappointed at, as folk when I was coming up the ranks gave respect to Sixth Formers, so I was gutted to be getting jip from some little Year 7 imp using our snack machine...I remember getting jip for wearing a really loud shirt (it had a sunset on some pacific island or whatever ALL OVER IT), some smart arse made a sarky comment about it, so I hollered back "enjoying that uniform, are ya?", and again, that person was stumped, ha!

Anyway (again), all mahf an' nah trahzeez...:D

The rumours and legends were far worse than the actual place, there was the usual chunk of dickheads though, and aye - lots of school yard class politics:

Geeks, sporty types, slags, popular folk, thickos and then normal folk (I was in the last one).

The geeks are off doing their own thing, the sporty types are all fat and reliving their glory days that ended when they left school as they sit supping on beer in the pub, the slags are all burdoned with a shedload of kids, the popular folk are suddenly not so popular anymore (some have been given a rather harsh slap in the face in that respect - but they totally deserved it), thickos are either doleys doing f*ck all, or they're doing some sh*t job...normal folk...why, they're mostly all off doing interesting things, living their lives, travelling, getting further education, getting high paying jobs (well, at least relatively speaking! :rolleyes:) and enjoying life and what comes next, rather than sporty types and such whose lives ended after graduation. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, and school kids are idiots, all rumours and ignorance, it's hilarious really...

[Khardis]

so everyone in america is under 10 years old?, people remember man, for good or ill people remember.

As though England's hands are clean when it came to the slaughter and theft of the land from the Native Americans.

1606-1776 = English Rule over the Eastern Coast of the New World with the exception of Florida. What do you think you guys were doing here within those 170 years? Living in peaceful coexistence with the Natives? I don't think so.

[MinionZombie]

Of course, saying "you guys" is a bit daft, because it was people leaving Ireland and England etc that made up the new settlers of America, so really, (white) Americans and Brits are the same people.

[Danny]

^ what he said. the language your speaking is called english for a reason, were do you think your ancestors got it from? that comes back to what i said in my first post, there is no difference, same lanugage and almost the same culture, with jsut the same amount of rude fat drunken tards over here as in the u.s.

[Tricky]

Your totally right about how school was MZ,and how a lot of the old lot turn out!unfortunately i was at one of my old classmates funeral on friday,i hadnt seen him in 9 years,but still he was part of the gang at school so it was only right to go.Anyway,there were a lot of my old school mates there who i havent seen in years!and it was weird seeing how people had turned out!some with kids,some married with kids,some of the lads half bald (bearing in mind we're all only 24/25)some ones who were popular at school still hanging round their hometown,big fish in a little pond!me who was quiet,shy,weird & unfashionable,now well dressed,confident,quite well travelled & popular!barely recognisable to some of them!it was still good to meet up & reminisce though,shame about the circumstances :(

[MinionZombie]

Damn man, sorry to hear about your mate.

I too look forward to getting back and reminiscing, but of course under normal circumstances.

I don't see much of the old gang these days, which is a shame, but I keep in contact via FaceBook and email and get to see some of them now and then (often when filming)...

It really is fun to look back and remember things "ah f*ckin' hell!" is a common expression, like recently I said it to myself when I remembered a short lived trend amongst the lads in about Year 11 when I was in high school, what craze? Well:

You'd wrap one hand around your wrist/arm and squeeze as tight as possible and then pump your hand in/out of a fist to pump your veins up and see how large you could make them ... it was hilarious, we'd waste so much time in English doing that, ha! I can't believe that was a fad, but it was...I bet the girls thought all the lads doing it were complete numpties. :lol:

[Danny]

yeah its weird to see freinds you havent seen since school its only been 2 or 3 years for me but damn it was surprising, one of the most popular blokes was essentialy the ginger christian handyman from ideal, another was a girl who was literally the wallflower girl from teen comedys, hidden behind giant glasses shy never spoke up, saw her a week ago, pink hair, loud and wway mor eoutgoing....though turned out she discovered since school she was a lesbian so that might have had somethign to do with it, other people turned out exactly like youd think, the ones that treid to push you into smokeing a fag behind the bike sheds and talked abotu drugs are now all doleys in track suits with nowere to go, essentially trapped in there own life, one even has two kids by two different girls, one is 16 and still at school:eek:
Though i wonder what they think of me?, i was the class clown (still am) but i had short hair, like a cm long for like 7 years, never listened to music or anything and never really had anywere i wanted my life to head, now im a long haired hippie/metal type with a dream to entertain the masses with my movies and one of the few people i know who whent to college, adn considering i was one of the dumbest people in my group thats a bit depressing.:|

[Khardis]

Of course, saying "you guys" is a bit daft, because it was people leaving Ireland and England etc that made up the new settlers of America, so really, (white) Americans and Brits are the same people.

Not true at all, much of the killing was done by British troops. And White Americans can run the gambit from Irish, Italian to Swedes.


^ what he said. the language your speaking is called english for a reason, were do you think your ancestors got it from? that comes back to what i said in my first post, there is no difference, same lanugage and almost the same culture, with jsut the same amount of rude fat drunken tards over here as in the u.s.

I speak English because my Italian immigrant family learned it when they came over after world war 2. That still doesn't change the fact that most of the Indian massacring was done by the British, in the name of Britain up until 1776.

[Tricky]

But theres absolutely nobody who had anything to do with massacres or the slave trade left in existence,so i feel no guilt :)

[acealive1]

But theres absolutely nobody who had anything to do with massacres or the slave trade left in existence,so i feel no guilt :)



amen to that, we should all just move on instead of blaming each other for something our ancestors of which we all never got to know are responsible for. nothing like a fresh start.

[Khardis]

But theres absolutely nobody who had anything to do with massacres or the slave trade left in existence,so i feel no guilt :)

Hear hear. I didn't mean to bring up the English role in murdering Indians (dots and feathers) until I saw someone else mention it about Americans doing the same.

[EvilNed]

No, we are bitching about people illegally immigrating here.


As opposed to immigrating the good ol' legal colonization way? :p

[Mutineer]

I have always thought of the English (the United Kingdom in fact) as brothers and sisters; it probably helps I am Irish, English and Scottish (with a touch of Dutch and Italian mixed in)

But I never think of the Dutch nor the Italians as closeely tied.

[Cody]

"Mutt"ineer :D

[Danny]

thats cold man:p

[Khardis]

As opposed to immigrating the good ol' legal colonization way? :p


Hey if they got the power to beat us down and subjugate us, I say bring it on. Thats their right as a superior nation. If they don't, they need to get their punk asses in line. As per colonization, the US doesnt know much about it. The original birth of the nation was done with people that had been here a 170 years already.

[Mutineer]

:o :D

(it's true)

[deadpunk]

Hey if they got the power to beat us down and subjugate us, I say bring it on. Thats their right as a superior nation. If they don't, they need to get their punk asses in line. As per colonization, the US doesnt know much about it. The original birth of the nation was done with people that had been here a 170 years already.

So, right by might?

Thats a pretty facist view, I gotta say.

As for the 'original colonization'...how do you figure that? The Native Americans didn't colonize anything. They were cavemen that crossed the land bridge that once resided over the Bering Straight. This would be way back when borders didn't really so much exist.

What you're saying, in essence, is that it was okay for the Pilgrims to land, put the Native's collective punk asses in line because they were superior... I mean, thats what you said right? You just gave a thumbs up to Genocide, right?

[Khardis]

So, right by might?

Thats a pretty facist view, I gotta say.

As for the 'original colonization'...how do you figure that? The Native Americans didn't colonize anything. They were cavemen that crossed the land bridge that once resided over the Bering Straight. This would be way back when borders didn't really so much exist.

What you're saying, in essence, is that it was okay for the Pilgrims to land, put the Native's collective punk asses in line because they were superior... I mean, thats what you said right? You just gave a thumbs up to Genocide, right?

Oh no... don't call me fascist oh noooooo!!! If I was in charge I'd have you up against the Wall!

And if those Natives fought harder they may have repelled the Brits showing up, but they didn't. Too bad. And Yes, it was okay for the Pilgrims to land, I have no problem with it. Obviously. I also think it was ok for the Spanish to land in South and Central America to clean house. Those people were brutal savages in need of some civilizin'.

And lastly. Yes. Might makes right. Its the universal law of nature. Its the natural state of existence. Don't like it? Well... you chose the wrong existence to be a part of. Next time try Krypton or some other fantasy land outside of this reality.

[losherman]

Oh no... don't call me fascist oh noooooo!!! If I was in charge I'd have you up against the Wall!

And if those Natives fought harder they may have repelled the Brits showing up, but they didn't. Too bad. And Yes, it was okay for the Pilgrims to land, I have no problem with it. Obviously. I also think it was ok for the Spanish to land in South and Central America to clean house. Those people were brutal savages in need of some civilizin'.

And lastly. Yes. Might makes right. Its the universal law of nature. Its the natural state of existence. Don't like it? Well... you chose the wrong existence to be a part of. Next time try Krypton or some other fantasy land outside of this reality.

khardis your a mouthy ****.....you and your kind just bore the **** out of me, always running your mouth talking stupid **** to make a fight, if it wasnt for flaming bitches that have no real life and or dont have balls enough to stand up in the real world the internet would be much nicer.

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[Danny]

im senseing khaos or neil approaching:shifty:

[capncnut]

Indeed, I feel a sense of closure... :D

[losherman]

figures

[Chic Freak]

Might makes right. Its the universal law of nature. Its the natural state of existence.

Natural =/= good.

If it did, we'd all be living in trees and eating our meat raw.

I think there's something to be said for unnaturalness.

[DVW5150]

First, the American Indians fought as hard as they could.I dare say that if what was mentioned before was fact, the American Indian wouldnt even survived to meet the pilgrims. There is no word in any language of the American Indian that means "give up".
I hate to state a historical fact, but the British scalped as form of attrition , it was taught to the American Indian by the British. I mean this merely as a fact, not to inflame or anger anyone.
Second, lets not fight.
Please?
Oh f^ck it...
I hope this works out for the better.

[Dommm]

Not many american indians left, the worlds loss whoevers to blame, As far as present opionion of Americans, hate the country and in MY opionion the false idiology, but CAN'T hate the people, dont know every american on a personal basis.

[deadpunk]

Oh no... don't call me fascist oh noooooo!!! If I was in charge I'd have you up against the Wall!

And if those Natives fought harder they may have repelled the Brits showing up, but they didn't. Too bad. And Yes, it was okay for the Pilgrims to land, I have no problem with it. Obviously. I also think it was ok for the Spanish to land in South and Central America to clean house. Those people were brutal savages in need of some civilizin'.

And lastly. Yes. Might makes right. Its the universal law of nature. Its the natural state of existence. Don't like it? Well... you chose the wrong existence to be a part of. Next time try Krypton or some other fantasy land outside of this reality.

Khardis...I've had the privilege of traveling abroad and dealing with men that hold your views. And, the government you profess such patriotism for is the agent that sent me to do so.

I've no doubt what kind of guy you are. You know everything there is to know about military life. You likely wear combat boots and play soldier on the weekends with paintball guns or some such sh*t, before you head home to Mommy's house. You probably either have tried or claim to have tried enlisting and tell people you were denied for some obscure reason, when in reality you just couldn't cut it.

More the shame for you. If you had ever had the chance to walk through a death camp or to stand in the snow puking on your boots while someone used a backhoe to uncover a mass grave; you'd be singing a different tune, instead of putting on such a hard-ass front.

You do hold facist views. And, before you talk about putting me or anyone else against the wall, you better review some history and see what happened to guys that held those same views. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Hussein...

Genocide is nothing to make light of. And, your opinions are the type that make normal Americans cringe when we see a thread asking what other countries think of us. The stuff you spew forth depicts us all badly. Its pollution.

[AcesandEights]

your opinions are the type that make normal Americans cringe when we see a thread asking what other countries think of us. The stuff you spew forth depicts us all badly. Its pollution.

Agreed. People should take threads like this as a chance to learn, not let knee-jerk reactions, jingoism or over-the-top nationalist zeal cloud objectivity.

[Danny]

check please *leaves before the fight breaks out*

[Kaos]

Sorry, but I had to close the thread. It was a very good thread turned sour by getting way off topic and becoming a pathetic platform for personal vendettas.