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Purge
05-Jun-2007, 04:33 AM
Gop Head: We Need More 'attacks On American Soil', so people appreciate Bush
Raw Story | June 4, 2007
Josh Catone

In his first interview as the chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party, Dennis Milligan told a reporter that America needs to be attacked by terrorists so that people will appreciate the work that President Bush has done to protect the country.

"At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001]," Milligan said to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate not only the commitment for President Bush, but the sacrifice that has been made by men and women to protect this country."

Milligan, who was elected as the new chair of the Arkansas Republican Party just two weeks ago, also told the newspaper that he is "150 percent" behind Bush in the war in Iraq.

In his acceptance speech on May 19th, Milligan told his fellow Republicans that it was "time for a rediscovery of our values and our common sense."

The owner of a water treatment company, Milligan was a relative unknown in Arkansas politics until last week's vote. He had previously served as the party's treasurer and the Saline County Republican chair.

rightwing401
05-Jun-2007, 05:36 AM
If Mr. Milligan thinks that republicans, or americans in general, would somehow increase their appreciation for president Bush after more attacks, I seriously believe he is the one who needs to regain his common sense. More likely what will happen will be americans asking why attacks were able to happen with all the new security departments and counter-terrorist measures that have been implemented over the years, and I seriously doubt we'll be sending a big batch of thank you letters to Bush if such a thing were to occur. For that matter, we might start asking just why we're paying all this money for security if it obviously doesn't work.
It's this increasing kind of detatchment from reality among the republican party that has made me go independent.

Danny
05-Jun-2007, 05:44 AM
wouldnt that just show all of bushes policies would have been for nought?, tard.:rolleyes:

AcesandEights
05-Jun-2007, 07:04 AM
Tragedy, crisis--everything--is little more than political capital to so many of these politicos.

Purge
05-Jun-2007, 09:39 AM
It's this increasing kind of detatchment from reality among the republican party that has made me go independent.

Same here.

MikePizzoff
05-Jun-2007, 01:15 PM
wouldnt that just show all of bushes policies would have been for nought?, tard.:rolleyes:

No. This guy wants it to happen to boost American morale on this "war on terror". This same type of thing was allegedly discussed among top American officials back in the early 60's so that they could get public support for a war on Cuba.

DjfunkmasterG
05-Jun-2007, 01:18 PM
And people question why I loathe republicans? :rolleyes:

_liam_
05-Jun-2007, 01:28 PM
:lol: who votes for these loons

why cant terrorists kill them, instead of spanish/british commuters and office workers in new york :confused:

EvilNed
05-Jun-2007, 02:20 PM
It was very brave of George Bush to invade Iraq. He personally sacrificed alot by doing that.

DVW5150
05-Jun-2007, 03:29 PM
Of course we would like him more if he let another ... ahem ... if we had another attack on US soil. We are stupid. We want a leader that doesnt care ...we have W to be incompetent (ahem) to be ...aw f*ck it .

The writing was on the wall in August of '01. they were expecting that to happen, but nobody can do anything about it.

My friend is dead.NO amount of bitching brings someone back, but karma has a way of doing things.

Enough.

EvilNed
05-Jun-2007, 03:34 PM
I think alot of people seem to forget that the goverment was really slow and reacting to Katrina. Well, at least this GoP guy has.

_liam_
05-Jun-2007, 03:45 PM
people seem to forget katrina full stop.
i thought that was way worse than any pre 9/11 meanderings or the iraq thing, it was a blatant neglect of his own people while hell on earth brewed up.

fartpants
05-Jun-2007, 03:53 PM
It was very brave of George Bush to invade Iraq. He personally sacrificed alot by doing that.

what exactly did he sacrifice then...

Terran
05-Jun-2007, 03:58 PM
His reputation/legacy probally...

Graebel
05-Jun-2007, 08:35 PM
:lol: who votes for these loons



Have you seen Borat? Apparently we have a country full of idiots.

***hangs head low***

darth los
06-Jun-2007, 01:16 AM
The people who vote for people like this do so based on their positions on "core" republican principles. You know the most important "distraction" issues of the day like : gay marriage and flag burning.:lol: Then when they get into office they sound totally whacko on certain issues and you're like "HTF did this guy get elected." I think that most of the republican base is just as out of touch as this guy.

rightwing401
06-Jun-2007, 01:41 AM
I think alot of people seem to forget that the goverment was really slow and reacting to Katrina. Well, at least this GoP guy has.

I haven't forgotten. I lived through it. It was the worst failure on every level of government, from national, to state, to local. A failure by both parties. The sad part is, when things began to quiet down, boths side played the finger blame game. I don't even have the will to write right now about the distortion of facts after the hurricane.
And things still are not back to normal in the city. I drove through the NE section of the city less than a month ago, and it's still a complete ghost town. If ever Romero wanted a location to shoot another zombie movie, that place would be his dream come true.
Well, I think I've ranted enough about Katrina, and I'm sure some of you are getting tired of hearing about it.

darth los
06-Jun-2007, 01:50 AM
I haven't forgotten. I lived through it. It was the worst failure on every level of government, from national, to state, to local. A failure by both parties. The sad part is, when things began to quiet down, boths side played the finger blame game. I don't even have the will to write right now about the distortion of facts after the hurricane.
And things still are not back to normal in the city. I drove through the NE section of the city less than a month ago, and it's still a complete ghost town. If ever Romero wanted a location to shoot another zombie movie, that place would be his dream come true.
Well, I think I've ranted enough about Katrina, and I'm sure some of you are getting tired of hearing about it.


Hell no, keep going!! I think the shortcomings of our gov't need to be discussed at length so they are never forgotten and swept so easily under the rug. Most people are sheep and are easily distracted by "distraction issues".:rolleyes: This stuff needs to be kept in the forefront.

MikePizzoff
06-Jun-2007, 03:53 AM
people seem to forget katrina full stop.
i thought that was way worse than any pre 9/11 meanderings or the iraq thing, it was a blatant neglect of his own people while hell on earth brewed up.

Exactly. I was down in New Orleans for 3 or 4 days last summer on tour. It is unbelievable what people don't know about that place. It's almost a full-on ghost city. The population is at about 15% what it was before Katrina. Everyone that lives there says life is pretty much hell but it's their home so they don't want to leave.

The coast guard is almost constantly rolling down the street in convoys or having troops patrol with machine guns. Most of the homes are abandoned and in shambles. Most of the roads have abandoned/overturned cars. There are no more supermarkets - everybody either buys their food from corner stores or just has to go out to eat. Most store fronts are dark with everything still in them, collecting dust because they haven't been touched since pre-Katrina.

It's really sad to see how a city [somewhat] full of people is just being ignored like that. I agree with people living there when they told me they felt that New Orleans could become a completely abandoned/forgotten city within 5 years.

Walking down the streets of New Orleans was like being in any apocalyptic zombie nightmare I've ever had... maybe even worse looking...

darth los
06-Jun-2007, 04:04 AM
That's exactly what i'm saying. The administration definitely doesn't want to talk about this. When the obvious is pointed out, such as katrina,iraq or the reason why Kansas didn't have sufficient emergency resources to deal with their disaster a fer weeks back because all their sh*t was in Iraq. They'll do anything (IE:selectively release intelligence about suppossed "foiled terror plots") to distract people.

MikePizzoff
06-Jun-2007, 06:50 AM
Darth, you and I are on the same level. We're considered "radical left wing extremists" or "nutjobs" by many. It's sad and infuriating.

darth los
06-Jun-2007, 06:16 PM
Darth, you and I are on the same level. We're considered "radical left wing extremists" or "nutjobs" by many. It's sad and infuriating.


It's been my experience that when you're winning a debate the last resort of the other side is to start name calling. You get called non patriotic, an appeaser and not supporting the troops. Totally baseless accusations but are effective in distracting from the main issue, much like Flag burning and gay marriage. There's an old line about how each party feels about their candidates: "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line." Think about it.:confused:

Cody
06-Jun-2007, 11:32 PM
passionate guys. very passionate.

zombie04
07-Jun-2007, 01:03 AM
And people question why I loathe republicans? :rolleyes:

I thought it was because you watched too much MSNBC

darth los
07-Jun-2007, 01:26 AM
I thought it was because you watched too much MSNBC


70% of what i watch is MSNBC and i must say that although not as right wing as FAUX NEWS CHANNEL they are hardly left wing. Their whole evening/night lineup, Except for the paltry one hour they give a liberal (Kieth Olberman), is overflowing with republicans:Tucker Carlson (libertarian), Chris Mathews and Joe Scarborough. However, the difference is unlike on Faux News, these men tell it like it is instead of spewing the republican talking points for the week. I may not agree with their ideology, but as a man i have to respect their views. Surprisingly, I often agree with what they have to say.

coma
07-Jun-2007, 05:30 PM
70% of what i watch is MSNBC and i must say that although not as right wing as FAUX NEWS CHANNEL they are hardly left wing. Their whole evening/night lineup, Except for the paltry one hour they give a liberal (Kieth Olberman), is overflowing with republicans:Tucker Carlson (libertarian), Chris Mathews and Joe Scarborough. However, the difference is unlike on Faux News, these men tell it like it is instead of spewing the republican talking points for the week. I may not agree with their ideology, but as a man i have to respect their views. Surprisingly, I often agree with what they have to say.
I agree, though Tucker is probably, despite his libertarian self appointment, the most party line GOPer on MSNBC. Just becasue Bill O'Reilly spews at MSNBC doesnt make them a liberal outfit. Compare Olberman to other "liberal media" and you will see that he is actually the only real one out there on any Mainstream media outlet.
I like Chris Mathhews, I dont alway agree with him, but he tries to get at the truth and doesnt go for the talking points stuff. He always redirects to demand a strait answer without leading them into the Party Line ala Fox. Scarborough is a total party guy, but he is straitfoward on that and doesnt pretend otherwise. He is biased and doesnt try to hide it.

I like MSNBC because it is the most straitfoward of the big 3 cable news channels. Least splashy and pretty face oriented. Though its (of course) has it's share of crap. CNN has totally gone down the toilet.


As far as that "we need more attacks on American soil" business. He says that but the means on MY CITY, not his. And it's just so , he thinks, everybody can panic and we can forfeit the last threads of rights we have. Its a demented comment and positivity Machiavellian and Hitlerian. "what America needs is a Reichstag fire II, so we can really get some agendas in motion". Whatta Asshole:mad:

Danny
07-Jun-2007, 05:45 PM
I haven't forgotten. I lived through it. It was the worst failure on every level of government, from national, to state, to local. A failure by both parties. The sad part is, when things began to quiet down, boths side played the finger blame game. I don't even have the will to write right now about the distortion of facts after the hurricane.
And things still are not back to normal in the city. I drove through the NE section of the city less than a month ago, and it's still a complete ghost town. If ever Romero wanted a location to shoot another zombie movie, that place would be his dream come true.
Well, I think I've ranted enough about Katrina, and I'm sure some of you are getting tired of hearing about it.


man there was a survey a while back and most brits thought the u.s had cleaned it up by now, in fact on the top gear special were they drove across the u.s they went to new orleans and weregobsmacked that not a thing had been done there was still debris that had been there since the water subsided, so they ended up giving there cars to needy familys, that is possibly the biggest reason i dont like the bush administration, sure you need to protect you people from terrorists but you gotta focus on whats actually happening in your own country than the middle east and they just seem to have swept new orleans out of there head and forgotten the people who still struggle to live there.

darth los
07-Jun-2007, 10:38 PM
He always redirects to demand a strait answer without leading them into the Party Line ala Fox.

As far as that "we need more attacks on American soil" business. He says that but the means on MY CITY, not his. And it's just so , he thinks, everybody can panic and we can forfeit the last threads of rights we have. Its a demented comment and positivity Machiavellian and Hitlerian. "what America needs is a Reichstag fire II, so we can really get some agendas in motion". Whatta Asshole:mad:


FAUX NEWS are the ones who are usually spouting the party line them selves. Fair and balanced? Please. If they would just come out and tell us that they are right wing i would atleast respect them much more. They're also the most intolerant network around. Have you ever seen what Oriely, Hannity and others do to people who aren't in line with their parisan view of the world? It's really ugly, let me tell you.


As far as another attack on nNew York, I totally agree with you.terrorists attacks are most likely to occur in New York and California. I know the rest of the country is constantly saying "you know there's a world outside of New York right?" I am very aware of this but it's also true. I'll apologize first if I offend anyone, but isn't it hilarious that the the most rabid supporters of the war are from red states where there's barely a remote chance of a terrorist attack? Sorry midwest, but one wants to bomb your wheat silos. The states where things are most likely to happen are blue and the majority of the people of which are anti-war. I'm from queens myself and this is something People from the city think about everyday so for us the threat is all to real. i get the feeling that for moslty the rest of the country "the war on terror" is merely a bumper sticker used and hung on to for dear life as a platform by the GOP because if you took it away the would have nothing to run on. This has been the case for six years. What meaningful legislation has this administration and the reopublican congress passed since 9-11. Nothing. Fear monger is all they do. Have you seen their debates. It's all terror all the time. If you haven't i'll save you 3 hours. The main theme of every GOP debate is, "if you don't elect us, the terrorists are gonna get you." whew rant over. I just had to get that out.

coma
07-Jun-2007, 11:01 PM
The states where things are most likely to happen are blue and the majority of the people of which are anti-war. I'm from queens myself and this is something People from the city think about everyday so for us the threat is all to real. i get the feeling that for moslty the rest of the country "the war on terror" is merely a bumper sticker used and hung on to for dear life as a platform by the GOP because if you took it away the would have nothing to run on. This has been the case for six years. What meaningful legislation has this administration and the reopublican congress passed since 9-11. Nothing. Fear monger is all they do. Have you seen their debates. It's all terror all the time. If you haven't i'll save you 3 hours. The main theme of every GOP debate is, "if you don't elect us, the terrorists are gonna get you." whew rant over. I just had to get that out.
Word to Big Bird
Im not anti war as much as Anti wrong and senseless war. Or screwed up and ignored war. If I have an enemy I am not going to kill a neighbor a few blocks away. "That'll teach ya!":rolleyes:
The GOP WERE in control and they DID get us, so their argument is the stupidest thing ever.
Its funny how us in NYC are actually LESS scared of terrorist attack then in places that would NEVER get hit. They have hit us twice and have actually came close more than once (previous to this administration) and they are all in prison . Well, other than 911. Most of the 93 guys are in jail, including MAstermind The "bilnd Sheik". Are there even ONE suspect from 911 in JAil?? Far as I can tell the answer is NO. A crew was going to blow up the Fulton Station in Brklyn and my Friend Lived across the street from them. They came VERY close to completion and are all in prison. That wouldve effected NYC ecomy WAY more than 911. Its a major subway hub for most of NYC. And This is ALL before the Patriot act and Homeland security. Ipso facto, Its ALL CRAP.

All around Wall Street there are M16 armed Blue Uniformed "soldiers" aka Police with Bloused Army style pants and combat boots. It is like a Dystopian Future American Police state. At least their is a reason for that, but I find it terrifying any way. For a year after 911 there were armored vehicles on many streets with automatic weaponry everywhere. I think many in the middle states would NOT take kindly to being occupied regardless of the reasons.

Some pray only for our destruction in order to gain ideologically. It has been proven over and over by action. At least one of them said it out loud and comfirmed the "conspiracy"

darth los
07-Jun-2007, 11:30 PM
The GOP WERE in control and they DID get us, so their argument is the stupidest thing ever.



That goes to the core complaint of the republican party which ran things for the past 6 years:incompetance and no accountability. They never want to talk about how 9-11 happened on their watch. They wanna pass the buck to Clinton and say it was his fault. Then they say that the WTC bombing in 93' happened under Clinton's watch, which is technically true, but he was only president for like 2 months when that happened. Did you see him blame that on bush 41. Hell no!! It's a continuing double standard of the GOP " That's wrong.!! But it's justified when we do it." For example, The exact congressmen and senators who were screaming for clinton to be impeached for purgury and obstruction of justice are now crying for Scooter Libby to be pardoned even though he did the exact same thing. Don't these guys know that we have the tapes from 1998? :confused: Pathetic.

coma
07-Jun-2007, 11:48 PM
=The exact congressmen and senators who were screaming for clinton to be impeached for purgury and obstruction of justice are now crying for Scooter Libby to be pardoned even though he did the exact same thing. =
Except Clinton lied to hide from his wife that he got a head dip, and Libby lied to hide an actual underlying crime and by that he OBSTRUCTED justice by making it hard or impossible to get Cheney. The Libby apologists claim that he didnt lie to hide a crime because Plaine was not covert. Yet, she was. Just another talking point treated as truth. Its obsfusification at its, uh, finest.
However, Apparently in the Paula Jones case Clinton lied about head as well, not to the Jones harrassement, at least according to the verdict. Fuzzy detail on my part about the Jones hearings thats what I believe to be the case.
I dont think Getting a dip and lying to not getting in hot water with the Mrs is the same as a high crime such as Libbys and Dicks.

darth los
07-Jun-2007, 11:52 PM
It's definitely not the same. I was just poiting out how high and mighty they are when it's someone on the other side of the isle vs. how they're willing to loook the other way when it's one of their own. I remember 98' it was like a circus. Ask yourself this, who wouldn't lie about getting head in order to hide it from his wife? if he would have admitted it, then i would have been worried, that's just not normal behavior.

Mike70
08-Jun-2007, 04:27 AM
ok. so i'll attempt to keep this low key. hahaha. no i won't be suggesting that anyone in the bush admin be raped by dogs BUT -


shouldn't this inbred fraking hillbilly reject from the wilds of arkansas realize that attacks on "american soil" (whatever the fu"ck that may signify) would tend to prove that bush has been a complete and utter failure (as to any sane person he has)? i thought that preventing attacks on "american soil" was what bush was all about. i thought the patriot act, military commissions act, war in iraq, holding prisoners forever without trial, etc was designed to prevent that.

this guy is reason number one why all supporters of bush should be sterilized for the good of this planet. this guy is an extremely bad fraking joke.

gee and to wade in on the whole "clinton thing"- he lied about getting his penis blown (what man hasn't- you all know what the frak i'm speaking about) not about something that has led to the deaths of over 3,000 american/allied folks (in iraq and afghanistan) and god only knows how many hundreds of thousands of iraqis/afghanis have been killed. wow!! i can't see the difference! i must be a republican apologist.