Videogame addiction!!! DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!

[MinionZombie]

http://health.yahoo.com/news/176635

Mental illness? More like billy-no-mates hasn't discovered masturbation, that's what I think. :lol::D

Or just sad losers with wrist supports spurting poo-slush into bed pans a la Cartman. :lol:

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[darth los]

http://health.yahoo.com/news/176635

Mental illness? More like billy-no-mates hasn't discovered masturbation, that's what I think. :lol::D

Or just sad losers with wrist supports spurting poo-slush into bed pans a la Cartman. :lol:

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On it's face it's funny but let's take it seriously for a second. If they are successful and do get thing thin classified as a mental disorder the gov't definitely will have an excuse to more tightly regulate the video game industry. There will now be a legitimate state purpose, which in america is a pre-requisite for gov't interference in private industry, and they will be able to ban games much like they do certain drugs that they deem to hazardous to you health.:eek:

[MinionZombie]

In that case, Americaland should take a leaf out of the UK's book in terms of the BBFC which is a completely independent entity, no gubment interferance nor industry interferance, which is a perfect butt-buddy (:p) for their mature sense of mind ... although the Manhunt 2 thing is a bit silly I have to say...

But videogames the cause of a mental illness? More like excessive play is a product of larger/wider problems...at least in the majority I'd say.

[darth los]

In that case, Americaland should take a leaf out of the UK's book in terms of the BBFC which is a completely independent entity, no gubment interferance nor industry interferance, which is a perfect butt-buddy (:p) for their mature sense of mind ... although the Manhunt 2 thing is a bit silly I have to say...

But videogames the cause of a mental illness? More like excessive play is a product of larger/wider problems...at least in the majority I'd say.

So they just review things and issue recomendations and ratings with no binding effect? Sounds like our new democratic congress.:mad:

[MinionZombie]

Basically in the UK, if you wanna sell a movie/tv show or a game it must be rated (although games can also be rated by ELSPA/ESRB and apply, but it's often BBFC only/as well).

The BBFC is independent, so it works freely, but obviously it was set up with an aim. Back in the day (famously in the 1980s with the incorporation of the Video Recordings Act legislation) they used to be really dickish, but then in 1999 the bloke who was in charge retired and a new bloke came in and relaxed basically everything left and right (who has also left recently). They're a pretty decent entity now, rather laid back. The only thing they're rather ancy about is sexual violence (porn is a whole other ball game, I duno what they like and dislike with porn). However, some films like Baise Moi and Irreversible have gotten through either uncut or with minor cuts...oddly enough, Baise Moi had a sliver taken out showing sexual violence against a man...interesting.

Anyway, they're pretty laid back and have an open appeals process, they work with the people submitting work, they're open about what they do, who does it and so on, they frequently give interviews and so on, so they're basically the polar opposite to the MPAA.

But in order to sell a movie or a game or whatever, it must be rated. Annoyingly we don't have that "unrated" idea, that you guys have, over here. :( What is "unrated", ironically, gets rated (but not cut). So - for example - Hills Have Eyes 2006 Unrated is rated 18 uncut in the UK.

Some things are exempt from classification though, some documentaries or sports things or training videos ... for instance, "Long Way Round" (utterly brilliant - Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman go round the world on motorbikes - absolutely superb show, check it out)...anyway, it's rated "E" for Exempt, yet it features a fair bit of swearing, but nothing else like sex or violence or drugs...

[darth los]

So if they're pretty laid back, what's their agenda behind banning this game? I wish that we knew what was so crazy about this game that they're making all this fuss. Sadly that info. has yet to be leaked. Maybe once it is we'll all say banning it was the right thing to do, but i doubt it.

[MinionZombie]

The BBFC did release a statement, but I was too lazy to read it. :lol:

The first Manhunt was a point of contension perhaps but was passed, but who knows, Manhunt 2 might go through on appeal...although as Rockstar have withdrawn it, that's unlikely for now, lol.

[darth los]

well whatever they're going to do they'd better do it quick. The game is due to be released on july 9th. So it's either alter the content or win the appeal. the appeals process will almost definitely push the game back though. it's worth it if they believe in their vision for the game.

[MinionZombie]

It's not being released on 9th July, it's been post-poned. No idea when it's gonna be released, not idea what they're going to do with it yet either...somehow it'll come out though...

[darth los]

It's not being released on 9th July, it's been post-poned. No idea when it's gonna be released, not idea what they're going to do with it yet either...somehow it'll come out though...

That's wierd. Eb games had it coming out on the 9th just yesterday. Now they have pushed it back to august 1st. I guess they're opting for the appeal.



http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281699

[MinionZombie]

Sites will just post up random dates as something to write in that slot on their site, play.com do it all the time with games that are delayed.

[darth los]

So what do you think they're going to do? Alter the game orappeal. Now that i think about it rockstar just loves contraversey. I think after the hot coffee mod scandal the grew addicted to the free press. Maybe it's a calculated move o their part.

[Danny]

ugh kinda on topic i foudn this trialer to a completely biased and one sided "documentary" 'moral kombat'.

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they keep coming back to nutters like the cloumbine guys with this who if memory serves says the childs play films amde them do it not halo and if if it did, there are millions of us gmaers so two people out of a population that large going ape **** is not gameings fault, its not getting enougha ttention from there parents or some other screwed up mental ****.

[MinionZombie]

I remember seeing that trailer before, and indeed, completely biased and based on a bunch of twitterers who blatantly don't play videogames. They say "first person shooter" and then show footage of a THIRD person shooter. :rolleyes:

Typically bollocks, "oh it's so life-like", yeah it looks good, but it's blatantly not real-life, it's a bit like real life visually, but it looks more like I duno, a freakin' VIDEOGAME to me!


they keep coming back to nutters like the cloumbine guys with this who if memory serves says the childs play films amde them do it not halo and if if it did, there are millions of us gmaers so two people out of a population that large going ape **** is not gameings fault, its not getting enougha ttention from there parents or some other screwed up mental ****.

The Columbine killers were influenced by The Matrix and Doom according to the tabloids and JT and other wankers. "Child's Play 3" 'influenced' the Bulger killers in 1993 here in the UK, although that was never proven and I don't think they'd even seen the film ... and even if they had, it's so freaking tame...and where in CP3 does Chucky shove a battery up someone's arse or drip paint into someone's eyes or bisects them on railway lines? :barf::mad::(

Games don't make people kill, they flat out don't. If they did, there's be at least thousands of cases of people going Postal, but there aren't. There's the odd, insanely-covered, shoot out that would have happened anyway.

That V-Tech Cho bloke...absolute nutter all on his own, a social reject who had a problem with apparent "rich kids" and capitalism, aka, pathetic loser billy-no-mates.

The Columbine guys - social outcasts once again, bullied and castigated by their peers, so they sought revenge. I'd question how they were so able to acquire an arsenal, rather than if they played Doom. :rolleyes:

Trench coats? They might look cool, but they're ideal for hiding weapons under, you don't need The Matrix to tell you that.

The vast majority of the human race knows right from wrong and reality from fiction, there's about 1 in a million who don't, but that 1 in a million would crack regardless of what they were watching. Like I said before, at most, some nutter playing Manhunt or watching some horror movie mate leave them sated for a while and delay the inevitable, meaning that as they delayed their killing spree that they would have done anyway, perhaps they end up killing less people than they might have done if they hadn't been delayed.

Society can't censor the entire planet just because there might be some nutter out there who'd go postal regardless.

These anti-game nutters really have absolutely no idea do they? It's the video nasties all over again, videogame nasties...:rolleyes:

[darth los]

It all boils down to free will and personal acountability. If we're going to say a game made someone do it then it means we really don't have descision making capabilities., which is total garbage. All the information is out there bombarding us through the media on a daily basis. What we choose to do with it is up to us.

[Danny]

yes but a lot of people, the majority being american and british, find its easier to find somethign to blame a childs problems on rather than actually doing some parenting that doesnt involve getting the kids hooke don rittalin or something when they dont need it, just take the sugar away, a short slap on the ear and yell "SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!".


sorry watching old school south park:D , didnt mrs. crabtree die?:confused:

[darth los]

yes but a lot of people, the majority being american and british, find its easier to find somethign to blame a childs problems on rather than actually doing some parenting that doesnt involve getting the kids hooke don rittalin or something when they dont need it, just take the sugar away, a short slap on the ear and yell "SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!".


sorry watching old school south park:D , didnt mrs. crabtree die?:confused:

I can't even argue with you on that one. It's sad but true. People lack the patience to engage in propper parenting> they just don't want to put the work in. We live in a "i want it yesterday world." Anything worth while takes time to develop and that includes a well adjusted child.

[MinionZombie]

We need to bring back smacking, I was hearing/reading something recently about there were plans to completely outlaw such things.

Excuse me, but there's a vast, yawning chasm between beating your child up and giving them a swift slap on the arse when they're being a bastard. It asserts authority, gets the kid to shut up, and it doesn't do them any harm. How do I know? Cos I got smacked when I was a little bastard at times, you knew you'd crossed a line when you got a smack, so you quickly shut the hell up and tow the correct line.

I think it's twisted that Pants On Fire and his useless gubment think they can parent better than normal people. I'm sure pulling down a 6 figure salary so you can buy them everything they demand comes in handy, as well as for hiring nannies. :rockbrow:

[darth los]

We need to bring back smacking, I was hearing/reading something recently about there were plans to completely outlaw such things.

Excuse me, but there's a vast, yawning chasm between beating your child up and giving them a swift slap on the arse when they're being a bastard. It asserts authority, gets the kid to shut up, and it doesn't do them any harm. How do I know? Cos I got smacked when I was a little bastard at times, you knew you'd crossed a line when you got a smack, so you quickly shut the hell up and tow the correct line.

I think it's twisted that Pants On Fire and his useless gubment think they can parent better than normal people. I'm sure pulling down a 6 figure salary so you can buy them everything they demand comes in handy, as well as for hiring nannies. :rockbrow:

Thers' definitely a big difference. Hitting a child is just one of the many tools at the disposal of a parent. As is the case with everything else people will abuse it and nowno one is allowed to hi their kids because child services will be at your house to look up your ass with a microscope. meanwhile your just trying to raise your kids. You can't hit kids today and the worst part is that they know it. That's why they all act like little bastards and are out of control.

[MinionZombie]

Of course, "hit" is too strong a word. "Light smack" more like.

Hell, kids will get a stronger bosh from falling over as they usually do cos they're idiots running around looking anywhere but forward. :lol:

[darth los]

Of course, "hit" is too strong a word. "Light smack" more like.

Hell, kids will get a stronger bosh from falling over as they usually do cos they're idiots running around looking anywhere but forward. :lol:

Tell me about it. I have a two year old who only has one gear, full speed ahead. lol. Also, when you don't have kids you tend to say,"well if that were my kid i'd beat his bottom." In reality i never even lay a hand on him even though he might deserve it. He's so cute i can't bring myself to do it. I'm telling ya man, everything changes when you become a dad. I'm not saying it's not hard but it's worth it in the long run.

[MinionZombie]

Right now a kid would be the last thing I'd want, one day maybe, but not for a very long time.

As for disciplining, right now I'd lay an arse slap down with a firmly pointed finger in their face with direct eye contact saying "oi! (name) NO!" and then return to normal. It worked wonders with me anyway.

That's just what I'm saying now.

[darth los]

Right now a kid would be the last thing I'd want, one day maybe, but not for a very long time.

As for disciplining, right now I'd lay an arse slap down with a firmly pointed finger in their face with direct eye contact saying "oi! (name) NO!" and then return to normal. It worked wonders with me anyway.

That's just what I'm saying now.

trust me no matter what they do it's very difficult to look into your baby's eyes and still slap him in cold blood. I can't bring myself to do it.