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Marie
26-Jan-2008, 09:26 PM
World's Most Powerful Rail Gun Delivered to Navy
Popular Mechanics | Erik Sofge | January 17, 2008
For true sci-fi fans, any mention of a real-world rail gun will draw an instant, slightly audible gasp. Instead of relying on chemical propellants -- such as gunpowder -- a rail gun uses magnetic "rails" to launch a solid, nonexplosive projectile at incredible speed. Theoretically, rail guns would be able to precisely strike targets at extreme ranges, and would negate the risks associated with carrying around tons of explosive ammo. More to the point, they're cool-sounding, just like lasers.

Which is why the news that BAE Systems has delivered a functional, 32-megajoule Electro-Magnetic Laboratory Rail Gun (32-MJ LRG) to the U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center in Dahlgren, Va., is exciting. Installation of the laboratory launcher is currently under way, and according to BAE, this is the first step toward the Navy's goal of developing a tactical 64-megajoule ship-mounted weapon.

The lab version doesn't look particularly menacing -- more like a long, belt-fed airport screening device than like a futuristic cannon -- but the system will fire rounds at up to Mach 8, drawing on tremendous amounts of electricity to generate the current for each test shot. That, of course, is the problem with rail guns: Like lasers, they're out of step with modern-day generators and capacitors. Eight and 9-megajoule rail guns have been fired before, but providing 3 million amps of power per shot has been a limitation. At 32 megajoules, this new system appears to be the most powerful rail gun ever built, and the x is installing additional capacitors at the Dahlgren facility to support it. The planned 64-megajoule weapon, if it's ever built, could require even more power -- a staggering 6 million amps.

According to Dr. Amir Chaboki, the program manager for Electro-Magnetic Rail Guns at BAE Systems, "The power is available. The challenge is how you use it." The Navy’s electrically propelled DDG 100 Destroyer, Chaboki says, is a prime candidate for the final 64-megajoule system. Around 72 megawatts (MW) of the vessel's power can be used for propulsion. But during combat, the destroyer's speed could be brought down, freeing up energy for a rail gun. Chaboki calculates that firing the 64-megajoule weapon six times per minute would require 16 MW of power, which would be supplied by either onboard capacitors or pulsed alternators. The more daunting challenge is the force of the rail gun itself: A few shots can dislodge the conducting rails -- or even damage the barrel of the gun.

While the 32-MJ LRG should start firing soon, it could take another 13 years for a 64-megajoule system to be built and deployed on a ship. The Marines, in particular, are interested in the potential for rail guns to deliver supporting fire from up to 220 miles away -- around 10 times further than standard ship-mounted cannons -- with rounds landing more quickly and with less advance warning than a volley of Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Effective rail guns will require a major breakthrough in materials between now and 2020, to keep the guns themselves from being shredded by each high-velocity barrage. Which means that for now, rail guns are precisely like lasers in one crucial way: They're Holy Grails, irresistible precisely because they're out of reach.

Mike70
26-Jan-2008, 09:29 PM
i want one of these and one meelyon dollars.:lol:

welcome to my railyard lair...:D

in all seriousness though, aren't there better, less lethal things that the money and technology which went into developing this thing could be used for?

mista_mo
26-Jan-2008, 10:45 PM
I'd always thought they'd be better at punching through armour then for killing infantry. Although, I'd imagine that a projectile moving at mach 8 and smashing into the ground would be pretty devestating...

Legion2213
26-Jan-2008, 11:02 PM
Massive rail guns would be a great way to launch things into orbit....we could boot all our nuke waste off-planet (aimed at the sun or suchlike) without the whiners moaning about the risk of explosion.

Mike70
26-Jan-2008, 11:14 PM
Massive rail guns would be a great way to launch things into orbit....we could boot all our nuke waste off-planet (aimed at the sun or suchlike) without the whiners moaning about the risk of explosion.

how bout if we aimed it at a convention of the uwe boll fan club?:lol::thumbsup:

p2501
27-Jan-2008, 12:12 AM
in all seriousness though, aren't there better, less lethal things that the money and technology which went into developing this thing could be used for?


probably, but screw all that hippy stuff, i wanna blow holes in sumptin.....;)

mista_mo
27-Jan-2008, 12:15 AM
with supersonic weapons!

hmmm....i wonder how viable those MAC guns in halo are...

Skippy911sc
27-Jan-2008, 12:16 AM
I saw this on Future Weapons a show on the Military Channel...kinda of unimpressive...just a warehose size gun...now give me the Eraser model and we can talk.

MikePizzoff
27-Jan-2008, 12:55 AM
Massive rail guns would be a great way to launch things into orbit....we could boot all our nuke waste off-planet (aimed at the sun or suchlike) without the whiners moaning about the risk of explosion.

:lol: Probably the best thing I've read all day.

kortick
27-Jan-2008, 02:06 AM
Yes I read that article in Popular mechanics
if anyone wants to see the gun itself there are
pics of it at this link
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4231461.html

also more info on railguns themselves can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun


very surprised you found this
I didnt think you were into technical devices

As an electrical engineer, I am amazed at some of
the things they have done already.
the 64 mega joule system is literally a holy grail
as they said when you take into the fact of the Lorentz force
and the other problems with arcing and capacitor discharge.

if you know anything about electronics you will see
sme of the major hurdles they have to cross.

quote:
The gun doesn't rip itself apart because it's so powerful - if I did the math right, the Iowa's 16" anti-armor shells (lowballing it: 1000kg, 800m/s) had about 640 megajoules (20x this railgun) at the muzzle. No, the problem is that trying to propel projectiles electrically. The railgun propulsion system works like arc-welding the shell to the rails and then yanking it down the rails at mach 8. That abuses the hell out of the gun. A gunpowder explosion is gentle by comparison.

but since it isnt their money they are spending
i'm sure they'll keep going.

Mike70
27-Jan-2008, 02:16 AM
rail guns are a nice accessory but i still prefer this as my choice of weapon of mass destruction

http://www.coolfreeimages.net/images/funny/funny_01.jpg