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    I think I need to see the movie again, because honestly my first thoughts mirrored what Vern at AintitCool.com stated. I thought that Romero went WAY overboard with the social commentary this time. It was simply too much for my tastes. Another problem I had with the film was that the world started falling apart much too fast this time around. It was not like Dawn '04 when the world turned into Mad Max overnight, but things started to turn to total **** in just a couple of days. And maybe I'm a pussy, but I hated the jerky camera stuff. After the first 5 minutes I was thinking that I was not going to make it thru the film. It did calm down as the film progressed, but I hate that shaky camera style. There is a scene in the film from what sounds to be a preacher on the radio telling people to "Get on your knees. Get on your knees. Get on your ****ing knees." C'mon man. Romero has always been weak on writing dialogue, but this is right up there with "Bruiser" in my opinion.
    The humor is very corny, including the Amish guy. The people in the theater loved his scene, I mean laughed out loud loved it. But it was silly to me.
    I really hate to say these things because I wanted to love this film. I know alot of fans don't agree, but I liked LOTD alot. It had very interesting ideas on how things would go if this zombie crisis happened. And I liked Cholo's character and I liked Kauffmann's character. Maybe a second viewing will be different. I don't know.
    There are lots of familiar faces from LOTD that show up in small parts. And they even lift a direct line of dialogue from the 1968 NOTLD and layer it in the radio broadcasts the students are listening to. Not someone else reading it, but the the original audio. That was kind of cool. Also you can hear Simon Pegg, along with some other famous voices on the radio broadcasts in the background. There are some memorable images in the film too, like zombies in a pool. And there are little nods to scenes from both Dawn and Day as well, like the housing raid in Dawn and the autopsy zombie from Day.
    I hope the Romero gods don't strike me down, but I simply did not like it. I thought he repeated himself alot in this film. Hunters shooting zombies for fun...we've seen that several times. I hope that it changes upon my second viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman311 View Post
    That mummy thing is great. I look forward to seeing what Romero has in store for me this time.
    If you liked the mummy scenario, and approach the film with no expectations of a zombie epic, I have no doubt that you will enjoy DIARY.

    Quote Originally Posted by thxleo View Post
    I think I need to see the movie again,
    I'm with you on needing to see it again. I don't have much of an opinion about the film yet other than generally liking it. But there is too much to take in on just one viewing.

    I don't agree on the Amish character, I think Samuel is brilliant.
     
    I only wish that he was in the film longer.
    Also, the NIGHT radio braodcast is used more than once, and I felt that it went a little too long, although that could just be me. Perhaps other people in the audience don't know NIGHT well enough to turn off the audio and mouth the dialog like myself.
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    What people need to realize is, no matter what kind of movie GAR makes, it will NEVER be accepted by everyone, especially those who are in love with his earlier work.

    Do I respect the negative reviews this film has gotten?

    Yes.

    Will the negative reviews destroy my own opinion on the film.

    Never.

    I still can't wait to see this flick!

    Thanks for the post.
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    Too much social commentary? I don't believe that is possible. If I was looking for a straight mindless gore/splatter movie I'd skip past the GAR titles and settle for some torture porn like Wolf Creek or Saw. It seems to me the whole point of watching a Romero movie is for the social commentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    Well I am still holding out hope this is better than Land. Nothing can be as bad as that turd. So in one week I will be at the Egyptian Muvico off Route 100 in Maryland, at the first show. I took the day off from work and the new significant other will be with me. I hope this film turns out good because so far I have showed her, Dawn, Dawn 04, Shaun and Night and she loved them all. I am about to show her Day this weekend so she is up to date on the zombie mythos.
    You must realise the moment you spout nonsense like your second sentence:-
    1) People turn off to anything else you say because your points of reference are clearly completely unfair and unrealistic.
    2) People turn off because they suspect you're simply after attention.

    We know you didn't enjoy Land, but (a) get over it (b) get over it (c) get the over it?

    Sheesh!

    Quote Originally Posted by thxleo View Post
    I think I need to see the movie again, because honestly my first thoughts mirrored what Vern at AintitCool.com stated. I thought that Romero went WAY overboard with the social commentary this time. It was simply too much for my tastes. Another problem I had with the film was that the world started falling apart much too fast this time around. It was not like Dawn '04 when the world turned into Mad Max overnight, but things started to turn to total **** in just a couple of days. And maybe I'm a pussy, but I hated the jerky camera stuff. After the first 5 minutes I was thinking that I was not going to make it thru the film. It did calm down as the film progressed, but I hate that shaky camera style. There is a scene in the film from what sounds to be a preacher on the radio telling people to "Get on your knees. Get on your knees. Get on your ****ing knees." C'mon man. Romero has always been weak on writing dialogue, but this is right up there with "Bruiser" in my opinion.
    The humor is very corny, including the Amish guy. The people in the theater loved his scene, I mean laughed out loud loved it. But it was silly to me.
    I really hate to say these things because I wanted to love this film. I know alot of fans don't agree, but I liked LOTD alot. It had very interesting ideas on how things would go if this zombie crisis happened. And I liked Cholo's character and I liked Kauffmann's character. Maybe a second viewing will be different. I don't know.
    There are lots of familiar faces from LOTD that show up in small parts. And they even lift a direct line of dialogue from the 1968 NOTLD and layer it in the radio broadcasts the students are listening to. Not someone else reading it, but the the original audio. That was kind of cool. Also you can hear Simon Pegg, along with some other famous voices on the radio broadcasts in the background. There are some memorable images in the film too, like zombies in a pool. And there are little nods to scenes from both Dawn and Day as well, like the housing raid in Dawn and the autopsy zombie from Day.
    I hope the Romero gods don't strike me down, but I simply did not like it. I thought he repeated himself alot in this film. Hunters shooting zombies for fun...we've seen that several times. I hope that it changes upon my second viewing.
    Oh dear... Now you've got me worried
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Oh dear... Now you've got me worried
    Don't be worried Neil. You know what they say about opinions.
    I guess I wanted to see Romero continue on with the events after LOTD. Not with the same characters, but just continuing on with the storyline of the zombies getting smarter. He said in an interview recently he felt like he had finished that, with it being a draw between the humans and the zombies.
    I, like alot of members on here, want to see him do something non-horror again. I wish that project he had with Ed Harris a few years back would have worked out. Another Ed Harris/Romero teaming would be fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsz0 View Post
    Too much social commentary? I don't believe that is possible. If I was looking for a straight mindless gore/splatter movie I'd skip past the GAR titles and settle for some torture porn like Wolf Creek or Saw. It seems to me the whole point of watching a Romero movie is for the social commentary.
    Since you are apparently not a fan of subtly, you should love this movie!
    For the record, I've never watched Wolf Creek, Saw, Hostel, or any other type of "torture porn".
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    Quote Originally Posted by thxleo View Post
    Don't be worried Neil. You know what they say about opinions.
    I guess I wanted to see Romero continue on with the events after LOTD. Not with the same characters, but just continuing on with the storyline of the zombies getting smarter. He said in an interview recently he felt like he had finished that, with it being a draw between the humans and the zombies.
    I, like alot of members on here, want to see him do something non-horror again. I wish that project he had with Ed Harris a few years back would have worked out. Another Ed Harris/Romero teaming would be fantastic.



    Since you are apparently not a fan of subtly, you should love this movie!
    For the record, I've never watched Wolf Creek, Saw, Hostel, or any other type of "torture porn".
    What's wrong with "torture porn"? As long as you don't take it too serious, you can't go wrong with naked women who die a bloody death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim102016 View Post
    What's wrong with "torture porn"? As long as you don't take it too serious, you can't go wrong with naked women who die a bloody death!
    Funny, I didn't see any "naked women die bloody deaths" in Saw, Saw II, Hostel, Fear.com, etc. I just saw a lot of bad cinema, so I quit watching. But point me in the direction of "naked women die bloody deaths" and I'll certainly give it another shot.

    At the DIARY screening, Romero stated that he doesn't get torture porn, and asked if anyone in the audience could explain the point of these films. He didn't pick my raised hand before I could tell him "frustrated fanboy filmmakers."

    He did say that at least when he was making "angry" films, he would try to make the audience feel something for the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thxleo View Post
    There is a scene in the film from what sounds to be a preacher on the radio telling people to "Get on your knees. Get on your knees. Get on your ****ing knees."
    Frankly, that sounds awful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    We know you didn't enjoy Land, but (a) get over it (b) get over it (c) get the over it?
    <claps>

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    damn, I feel like a stranger in these here parts.

    Honestly I was shocked when I read Lee's review. Lee has been probably the most critical reviewer of George's films that I've known (i'll ignore your little Bruiser comment ha) I do agree with Lee that George has never been great w/ dialouge but he has given us some great ones over the years

    The times I have talked to George, his manager or anyone who has seen footage has enjoyed it, but yet again thats just pieces of a whole. I really think this will be a great film, probably better then LOTD especially because George had more creative control on this one and from what i've heard from him he's excited about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capncnut View Post
    I have to admit, comparisons can be pretty damn annoying in an interview. It's not exactly a mark of professionalism.
    damn straight, no ones the same person as they were 25 years ago, do people really expect the flicks to be the same?, people change over time ,and with filmmakers there movies do with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monrozombi View Post
    I do agree with Lee that George has never been great w/ dialouge but he has given us some great ones over the years
    ive allways thought that, whilst great for one liners, georges greatest skill is in imagery ,not dialogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    damn straight, no ones the same person as they were 25 years ago, do people really expect the flicks to be the same?, people change over time ,and with filmmakers there movies do with them.



    ive allways thought that, whilst great for one liners, georges greatest skill is in imagery ,not dialogue.
    I love George and his movies to death but I do cringe at some of his writing, most recently that was in LOTD. I did not like the way he wrote Riley or Cholo. "I'm looking for a world with no fences" it was ear peirding to hear that

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    Assuming I'll get it here in Indianapolis, I'll be there for the first showing...with certainly less in the way of expectations after Land's disappointment.
    Actually, the only thing cool about seeing Land in its first showing here was seeing the other people there. We all knew we were GAR/Dead freaks...too bad we all walked out like, "WHATTHE****?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubiousComforts View Post
    It's seems that many people wish for a Romero "zombie epic masterpiece" and that's exactly not the type of film that he's made with DIARY.
    I think a lot of the problems with Land stemmed from it being billed as the "ultimate zombie masterpiece". The poster for Land shows an endless sea of zombies against a backdrop of a lone building in the background. The scene looked desperate. The film looked epic. It appeared to be taking the events of the 3 prior movies and drawing to the eventual culmination on a much bigger scale.

    But what we got was just another chapter in the story. There was no endless sea of zombies. There was no desperate situation. The poster was a lie. Perhaps if it had been billed more along the lines of what it would deliver it wouldn't have generated so many haters.

    It's been contended many times on these forums that expectations killed Land. That's probably in many ways true. But it wasn't 20 years of built up expectations based on it being like the original movies. It was a couple of months of expectations based on what Land boasted it would be and failed to deliver.

    None of that should hurt Diary. From everything I've heard Diary appears to deliver what it advertises. No one should walk into this movie expecting a bigger movie than Land.
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    I'm willing to wager half of the people who claim to have seen the movie are lying. They read a few reviews and are parroting the same summaries here on this forum.

    I take these reviews with a grain of salt and will wait to see it for myself.

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